Todd Bowles Said A Few Players Are Dragging Down Bucs

December 12th, 2025

Some players tuned out?

Joe has suspected, maybe going back to last year, that the Bucs have a locker room issue.

When Joe sees guys leave the locker room early, that is a red flag. Though not to paint with a broad brush, more often than not, guys who race into the locker room and are the first ones out, even before the locker room is open, those are guys that either don’t want to be there or have more important things in their lives than football.

DeSean Jackson and Swaggy Baker are two guys who did this regularly.

Last year Joe started seeing a few players do this, including one guy who Joe thought was maybe the most standup guy in the locker room.

Coincidentally, his play has dropped.

Then, when Baker Mayfield, Lavonte David and Todd Bowles all unloaded on teammates, separately, in a span of a month, that told Joe there are locker room problems. If not, then why were two team leaders and the head coach reading teammates the riot act in almost successive weeks? That doesn’t happen with good locker rooms.

Then when the Bucs signed Jason Pierre-Paul and were open about how they needed his juice, that was confirmation of Joe’s fears.

Guess “I Am That Man” was susceptible to con artists, too?

Joe brings all of this up because last night in his postgame remarks, Bucs coach Todd Bowles all but said some players simply are not listening to coaches and that is why the defense has caved in since the bye.

“The coaches have done everything they can do,” Bowles said. “This is a player-driven team in the last four or five weeks. You got to execute. They got to hold each other accountable.

“As a coach you can sit there till you blue in the face. Until they start holding each other accountable and doing the little things right, and that’s not everybody, we’re talking about a small, select few.

“But the small, select few is what’s getting us beat. Until that happens, it’s not going to get right.”

That almost sounds to Joe like Bowles has lost a chunk of the locker room. May not be many, but enough to Pearl Harbor the entire team.

Joe saw the clip of Mike Evans hollering on the sidelines last night. Joe cannot tell at all if Evans was yelling at Bowles. It looked like Evans was having a s(p)it fit and he just happened to turn briefly in the general direction of Bowles in the middle of his rant.

Last night Bowles effusively praised Evans so if Evans was hollering at Bowles, the Bucs coach didn’t seem bothered by it.

Joe can say there were three players who were visibly angry at the loss. One was Evans. As he approached the locker room, he doubled over in rage, face grew red, clenched his fists and screamed, “This is f’ing bulls(p)it!”

Vita Vea yelled something that Joe couldn’t make out. Tykee Smith yelled, “We ain’t done s(p)it!” It was as if he was saying the Bucs haven’t earned the right to drag tail.

If Joe has interpreted Smith correctly, he’s right on.

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95 Responses to “Todd Bowles Said A Few Players Are Dragging Down Bucs”

  1. Farmer Says:

    I’d say a few Coaches are what are bringing the Bucs down.

    FIRE BOWLES

  2. Steven #55 Says:

    Season is done – change is needed

  3. MadMax Says:

    Calm down Players….season is over because of todd….but its all good. We’ll bounce back next year. We need Sonny Styles in the draft…and we’ll move on from todd. Just trust the process šŸ™‚

  4. Gbobucsfan Says:

    Zion ??? Reddick is a joke at this point..AWJ has been invisible as of late as well..Do tell Joe !!!

  5. 407buc Says:

    Are we talking about #31?

  6. MadMax Says:

    Zion is one im sure….too many times given up on plays, ive seen it. Reddick too at times….and Braswell just looks like he dont care anymore, he’s all about his religion that doesnt fit well sometimes…sorry, just saying its showing.

  7. MadMax Says:

    btw, misspelled on purpose….

  8. Buckeyebbuckchuck Says:

    Knew they were done when I saw Vildor playing. Sucked for the Lions, pretty much the same in TB

  9. Jameis Says:

    Bye Todd.

    Thanks for the mediocre memories.

    Waste of a season.

    Get rid of Bakey too.

  10. Leighroy Says:

    The stat shown on Prime at halftime interview was all too telling; 16-51 career record when trailing at halftime as a HC, and 0-6 this season. Make that 0-7 now.

  11. TDTB Says:

    Tough to watch. To and insult, our last two OC’s are now HC’s and doing well…and there are no clear cut candidates to replace Todd. We can’t even do succession planning right.

  12. BuddhaBuc Says:

    If some of the players on the team are toxic, sit their butts on the bench. I’d rather have an average player playing their hearts out than a toxic superstar just playing average.

  13. BuddhaBuc Says:

    Bring back Gruden but don’t let him be involved in picking players.

  14. ATLBUC Says:

    In the guys aren’t listening forget that I also to the coach medical then the coach doesn’t need to be there.

  15. DejaVu again Says:

    Simple question. Why are these few still on the team much less starting

  16. BuddhaBuc Says:

    No doubt our defense blows chunks, but how come no one is talking about how bad the 0line played? Baker never had a drop-back with any time. Every snap he was running for his life.

  17. DungyDance Says:

    Bowles’s profane rant is telling, he knows this may have been the last straw for his tenure here. With nothing to lose, personally I’d like to see him now take more radical leadership decisions. For instance, these few guys on defense who he said are not listening – bench them in a must-win game (e.g., our next game). Or bench them until the second half. And regardless of what happens in that one game, being benched for this reason will be forever remembered on the career resumes of these few guys.

  18. FortMyersDave Says:

    I am going to guess that the locker room issues Todd mentioned and Joe has alluded to must include a high paid defensive player who simply cannot be launched do to salary cap implications and the fact that it would make Licht and Bowles look like fools. I am guessing we are talking about either Zyon McCollum or Winfield. Zyon used to be mentioned on some local blogs as a really good dude, friendly and down to earth, perhaps the coin got to his head. Winfield? Who the f*** knows what is up with hm. You would have thought he would have played with a chip on his shoulder after getting boned by the refs out of 2 defensive TDs in the Big Easy but instead he has gone incognito. It seems to me the only guys who have any fire on the defense are Vea, Tykee Smith and LVD. Time to start targeting the new offensive mind who will be the opposite of Bowles. No way he gets a reprieve even if the Bucs manage to win a game or 2. He allowed this locker room cancer to torpedo his team.

  19. Boltsfan17 Says:

    While Bowles isn’t wrong, he should’ve included himself and Licht.

  20. Dave Says:

    I wonder what Gruden could do with this offense?

  21. StickinUp4Centers Says:

    I thought the approach was to draft “Buccaneer” men, football loving guys over talented guys with character flaws?

  22. jimmy Says:

    hopefully some journalist somewhere puts pen to paper and lists out some names.

  23. FortMyersDave Says:

    Dungydunce, good idea, but wouldn’t that have repercussions for the organization with agents and the like who will not appreciate Bowles putting a scarlet letter on their boys and hence hitting the agents in the wallet???? Then again, I suspect some of the loafers/cancers are already paid and others should not be on any NFL roster and if Bowles is gone after game 18, what can it hurt????

  24. BucU Says:

    F this entire organization from the Glazers to the towel boy.

  25. LVMYBUCS Says:

    Knows what the problem is but can’t or won’t fix it. This why Bowles sucks as a HC.

  26. Joe in Michigan Says:

    The lack of accountability starts with Bowles himself.

  27. wlliam Says:

    we had cohen and let him go to keep bowles/ hows that working for ya?

  28. Jameis Says:

    Oh good, now we are blaming players too. Todd, your job is to get them up or put someone else in. Joke of a staff and squad.

    Don’t waste your time watching their product. They are lifeless clowns that get paid to defraud the fans.

  29. SteveK Says:

    It’s joever.

  30. Zwak Says:

    You’re the head coach?? If you have a few players that are dragging the team down bench them and set an example!

  31. Ben Says:

    Tired of seeing the Gruden posts. Awesome Bucs HC 25 years ago, but he washed too.

  32. Bucschamp Says:

    Of course blame the players not himself

  33. Conte Piscatelli Says:

    BS. Three coaches are dragging this team down. ST, OC, and HC

  34. FortMyersDave Says:

    Joe, could some of the bad blood in the locker room be on account of Bowles playing any favorites? Just asking because some posts in other threads I have read have mentioned when Benjie Morrison took some snaps from Dean in the Bills game, it could have angered some other players on the defense? I mean, it made no sense to pull Dean for an unproven rookie who did not get any reps in training camp, but Todd did and the results were not good at all.. I could see that creating a bit of festering resentment…..

  35. Lessismore Says:

    Bowles says there’s a few players dragging down the Bucs? – BENCH THEM and bring up the practice squad guys – give them the reps. I’d rather see guys on the team trying to do their jobs then the hot mess we have now.

  36. BigZ Says:

    Whers 50 been this year? I iso on him a lot. I see a slow lackluster 50. Contract year in 26. I’d like to see what we could get for him. Hes not helping us now. No waybwe should resign a 31 yo VV next year.

  37. mg Says:

    Are the owners blind?

  38. Hodad Says:

    Glazers should do something they’ve never done, fire Bowles today. Get in line with the other league bottom feeders who need a new H.C.. Bowles has to go, will Licht be included? He has not put together a good roster. What I don’t know is how much say Bowles has had with regards to the players. Are these his guys, or Lichts? What I do believe is Licht is to in love with his players to be objective. Example was giving Zyon an extention early thinking he was going to blow up in a contract year. Think we need a whole new set of eyes on this roster. Think a new guy coming in should make EVERY player on this roster available for trade. Wirfs, Winfield, Zyon, Dennis, any, and all off them. Let a new GM, HC, build a team in their immage. What we’re seeing from Licht, and Bowles has got to go.

  39. Conte Piscatelli Says:

    With the exertion of games where Baker Mayfield has put his body on the line to gut out a yard and dragged effort out of this team, it has been 55 guys collecting a pay check. That is a problem with leadership and leadership starts with the head coach!

  40. BucEmUp Says:

    This is embarrassing

  41. Leopold Stotch Says:

    A whole lot to unpack. First and foremost I agree with everything you said Joe. Bowles doesn’t adjust his defense which is a shame, because I believe he has made strides in other areas. For the defense to be falling apart because it’s too complex that one guy screws it all up, plus the other stupid crap, yeah he needs to step aside and be a BA or retire. Those are the only options at this point. He becomes a ceo type coach, gets a legit DC or leaves.

    The bad apples in the locker room… I’m guessing Reddick is a huge one. He said he didn’t like to go into coverage and what’s he doing? Dropping in coverage. He’s also not making the most of his pass rushing reps and I think he’s done. At least with the Bucs if not NFL. He was a bust. I don’t want to believe it, but AWJr may be mailing it in after the payday. No one expects an all pro, but he’s invisible. The fact he’s leaving early, like Joe said, red flag. I defended him last year, not anymore.

    I think LVD is done. I don’t blame him, he’s just about done physically and everything is falling apart. I think Mike may be done, at least with the Bucs unless there’s a MAJOR change. He has no reason to stay with us other than loyalty, record is gone (thanks Detroit 😔). I don’t know, I wouldn’t blame him, although I’ll be devastated.

    Guys who get a pass this year, but could lose favor: Wirfs, one bad year due to injury, not worried about him at all, he gets 2 years honestly. Godwin, I told everyone he was hurt and it’ll take time. He’s looking better. Yaya I think just isn’t being used right with the bs scheme. Same with Braswell, although year three he needs to step up when he’s out there. There’s been like 0 flashes. Grizz gets a year, rookie play caller, needs to hit the books and film hard. It was bound to happen tho, can’t get lucky 3x

    Zyon was a mistake, clearly. Special teams coach, gone. The way things are going I doubt we make playoffs. That said, if we do, these changes need to change. No more slumps, no more terrible defense. Change or leave.

  42. Pewter Power Says:

    Sorry guys but if if it’s ā€œfew guysā€ cratering the team then the Glazers are giving Bowles an out and he’ll be back next year even though it’s his fault for being afraid to bench players🤢🤮

  43. Becky Says:

    Yeah Todd there are more than a few players dragging us down, but not nearly as much as your bad coaching and Jason’s refusal to address team needs in the past 4 drafts. Todd is delusional if he thinks he is not the biggest problem this team has. Neither him or Licht should be fired they should RESIGN! We can’t tackle anyone. We can’t pressure anyone. We can’t cover anyone, and we can’t protect our QB. Baker wll likely get blamed for the loss for his interception, but this loss is squarely on Todd and Jason. Grizzard’s playcalling has been questionable, but I would give him a second chance with better fellow coaches around him.

  44. Bobby M. Says:

    Players will tune you out once you start screwing with their next paycheck. Reddick is an obvious question mark for me. He’s been a problem every where he’s been trying to secure his next big contract. Guessing he’s not happy with how Bowles uses him because ultimately sacks is what will get him paid and you can’t get those chasing a TE or RB or playing zone.

    McCollum is another….the sudden lack of focus is perplexing and it’s like every game he contributes to a key play that hurts us.

    Winfield doesn’t seem as impactful as he once was but he seems to be in there hustling trying to make a play.

  45. SteveK Says:

    Where’s Waldo Winfield?

  46. Tucker Says:

    Todd is also dragging the team down how do you not run on second down take it to the two minute warning then run a third down after the two minute warning with a falcons team out of time outs cya todd you are so done it really looks like you lost that entire team not just a few guys.

  47. Outrigger Says:

    No doubt that Winfield and Zion are 2 of these players Todd is referring to. They should both be benched for the rest of the season. Someone posted that there’s not many good options to replace Bowles and they are right. We had the bright young offensive coach calling plays last year and the Glazers let him walk and turn a dismal Jacksonville team into a playoff team overnight. I’m afraid there is nothing out there but the next Dirk Kotter at this point. If we hire another has been defensive coordinator I will forever be done with this team

  48. Steve Says:

    How can you not lose the locker room is you’re blaming your players, not leading / coaching them?? You are the head COACH.

  49. FortMyersDave Says:

    Pewter Power, I think the few bad apples quote will be an excuse Bowles will use as will the injuries when he is asked to be accountable in a few weeks. However, other coaches regressed and the Glazers canned them despite their excuses: Dungy (offense issues), Chuckie (no franchise QB, unwilling to develop one), Koetter (Mike Smith), Rah (10 game losing streak to end his last season), Lovie after the DC collapse, etc. It is easier to launch a coach than half the roster when one reboots.

  50. SteveK Says:

    The players need to step up, Bowles will take the fall, but never forget, where’s the $20 million dollar safety? He’s invisible.

  51. dave Says:

    You’ve got the lead in the 4th, RUN THE BALL!!

  52. ATLBUC Says:

    If players aren’t listening and aren’t going along with the game plan, why are you activating them and putting them on the field on game day?

  53. ATLBUC Says:

    Bring BA back!! Or hire a college coach. I’d rather lose and have hope than to keep going through this mess every year. Promote Foot!

  54. ATLBUC Says:

    Losing players is not a locker room issue, it’s a coach issue. When the players do not buy in to what the coach is doing because it has failed repeatedly, they tune out. That is what has happened here. Nobody wants to continuously be put in a position to fail. And that is what Todd Bol’s defense does. I would be mad too.

  55. DoooshLaRue Says:

    wlliam Says:
    December 12th, 2025 at 6:38 am
    we had cohen and let him go to keep bowles/ hows that working for ya?
    _________

    That’s very true but answer me this?
    How do you fire a Blak coach with a (barely) winning record who (luckily) got the team into the playoffs every year and replace him with a Whiite coach with no HC experience?

    The PC clowns would be screaming race-ism from the rooftops 24/7.

  56. Bojim Says:

    Never seen Mike that mad. I didn’t like it. He busted his tail. If you know who the few are Todd, you better but their butts down now. Might be too late.

  57. Baking with Grizz Says:

    C’mon Glazers don’t give up on the season. Fire Bowles make Foote interim coach. Try something new!!!!!

  58. Bucsalltheway Says:

    Cry about zone….but we played man several time and Kyle Pitts had the upper hand didn’t matter who was on him at the line of scrimmage Winfield too little, izien too little they looked like kids chasing daddy around the yard making superb plays on them…2 guys ripped us apart kyle Pitts and Bijan robinson it is what it is ..our lbs and safeties are slow or undersized. Never knock Winfield size until now he is a little guy who is out of position ALOT this year and always takes bad angles

  59. Bucsalltheway Says:

    Jpp is a culture guy and he looked fired up standing next to bowles last night bro bout to line up with his hair on fire this week…I’m not done with this team yet this is a entertainment business..who else would watch bucs vs panthers if we won the division already…this is the worst of the worst character guys should rise to the top…just not use to bowles losing this must in December and November its been our staple to play good ball this time of year…no more slack we have to dawg sh*t moving forward bench the bad apples…baker missing ebuka throwing behind him doomed us and nobody is talking about it..he hits ebuka in stride that a huge gain possible td…but the rookie has had his fair share of stone hand moments indidnt even want ebuka targeted on the drive mayfield threw that pretty pass behind him and not in front in stride…the makeshift olines have been band aids but it is clearly a problem it is destroying any rhythm baker can get in to…

  60. Ocala Says:

    Bowles is the problem
    He needs to be fired

  61. StormyInFl Says:

    I’d say there’s a fat slob posing as an NFL head coach that’s the biggest problem.

  62. Bucsalltheway Says:

    I want 2 tykee smith’s and we would be good right now…almost think he was better in the nikel position he made a lot of plays last year and got into guarding tight ends from the slot.

  63. TG Says:

    The poor coaching has lost the locker room

  64. BusFanin PTC Says:

    Glazers, I have ONE word to solve your problems: Chucky.

  65. Bucsalltheway Says:

    None of our running back caught a rhythm behind that line they was getting 2 to 3 yards a pop some behind the lime especially bucky..Mike almost got killed by the teddy ball mayfield threw in open space..why throw the ball high there and force Mike to leave his feet…bad offensive plays…meanwhile Chris godwin had his targets shaved for Mike to have a big night…I felt like we had a chance with godwin making that critical first down on the drive that stalled with throwing behind emeka in stride

  66. BucU Says:

    The entire coaching staff needs to unceremoniously fired as well as 3/4 of the 53 man roster. What a heartless gutless weak minded and lazy organization.

  67. 813bucboi Says:

    reddick, winfield and zyon need to be benched for the rest of the season….

    trade or release winfield and zyon

    reddick will con the browns for 10mil next year

    GO BUCS!!!!

  68. Henry Says:

    Coach Blows needs to got but after the season. Fire him now and the dirty birds will take the credit. Dah funk?

  69. Henry Says:

    Also, can we get a coach who runs onto and off the field instead of a wobble? Give him a golf cart for gods sake. The man looks terribly unhealthy and like a coronary in waiting.

  70. It's Corn Says:

    Coach’s job to make them buy in and believe and try… if it’s a player-driven sport, that’s really the coach’s most IMPORTANT job.

  71. Bucnbeers Says:

    Stop talking about Gruden coming back. Talk about loosing a lockeroom. We need young blood for a coach. Honestly, if we’re talking old dudes why not bring in Dion Sanders? Players love him and bring Warren Sapp with him.

  72. Ultra ClodHopper Says:

    Does he at least call them out behind the scenes?

  73. ATLBUC Says:

    We need barber as head coach, Brooks as defensive coordinator and Gruden as offensive coordinator

  74. Daniel Z Says:

    The only time players don’t hold themselves accountable is when there is no accountability at the top. Leading by example and all that. People pay way more attention to what you do than what you say you’ll do.

  75. Marcus Says:

    Unbelievable. Can this guy seriously not accept the idea that he and his coaching staff bear some of the responsibility? Is his ego so big that he believes everything he’s doing, saying, and scheming are right? A person who can never accept fault in their actions is doomed to never grow.

  76. TampaExile Says:

    Todd’s saving grace as a HC was he was a good culture guy. If he doesn’t have that anymore then he’s useless.

  77. DBS Says:

    We don’t need Brooks anywhere near this team Look what happened to the teams he has been involved with after he retired. The Storm ?

  78. Chrisfresh87 Says:

    Flush Bowles we’ve seen enough he sucks flat out

  79. Greg Says:

    Evans was also caught yelling ā€œ3rd and 28ā€ numerous times walking back to the locker room after the loss. Sucks….the Bucs have some good players/leaders, but a handful of horrible players and the horrible coaching staff tanked the season.

  80. heyjude Says:

    Mike had such a good game and at one point we all thought he got hurt again. But he came back out happy as he could be saying he was alright.

    Can’t blame it all on Todd. If it rained, it would be Todd’s fault. The refs were not perfect either.

  81. Jmarkbuc Says:

    ā€œ sit there until your blue in the faceā€ says everything you need to know.

    ā€œPlayer driven teamā€ is also BS, they are employees, if they aren’t doing the job get new ones

  82. Mike Johnson Says:

    Right Todd. A few players and you and your coaching and coaches are bringing this team down. You’re up 28-14 and let a losing team walk you down. With less than 2 mins left, Mr, You like that Cousins marches his team down the field on your Defense with a third and 28. I’m so pissed joe. Go Panthers! and Leave Tampa now Todd Bowles.

  83. Frank Pillow Says:

    What a fool- you cant expect an ounce of credibility now- you’ve been sitting on an abysmal Special Teams coordinator and continue to play guys who are bored and serially loaf game-in and game-out. Let’s not even get into the Xs and Os of it all.

  84. Saskbucs Says:

    A locker room problem last year!?

    How could that be?! That’s Bowles #1 attribute is keeping players happy and having a great culture, great locker room!

    If we weren’t keeping him for that, no idea why he is still here or how he was being defended the last 3 years.

  85. Tbbbucsfan Says:

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and say it’s not Zyon. It would be hard to justifying paying him last offseason if he started leaving early and showing signs of disengagement. That would be serious malpractice by the front office.

    My guess here is AWJ. Guy got a massive bag, has $50+ million in career earnings and never needs to work a day again in his life. There was a special done on him a couple years back and he seemed really smart with his money (was living in a condo at the time because his financial advisor said it wasn’t smart yet to make a big home purchase).

    I think it would be real easy to take your foot off the gas if you have 20+ million in the bank.

  86. Obvious One Says:

    @Tbbuc

    I’m thinking what you are AWJ…. His play has disappeared. But the what seems Obvious to me at least is Zion McCollom. His play? It’s been stinking up the place just as much if not Worse after he received what’s turning out to be Judus’ silver coins…… Those two guys REALLY STAND OUT!

  87. Obvious One Says:

    We don’t hear or see ANYTHING from those two guys (AWJ and Zion)! Did you hear their names last night? Any special plays made to “save the day”? Well, neither did I..

    They have turned out to be HUGE DISAPPOINTMENTS! Soon as they got paid… POOF!

  88. Obvious One Says:

    @ Buhda

    The O line ABSOLUTELY STUNK UP THE PLACE ALL GAME LONG! I guess the reason that it’s just a moot point t is because some people are JUST REALIZING how bad the REST of the team has been. You HAVE TO include the Offense MOST GLARINGLY because OF the O line! There is no doubt that Baker isn’t on his game of late (and I’m Not going to make excuses for him), BUT let’s be REAL about that. He hasn’t had more than 2.5 seconds to even move, much less find a Target to throw to. He’s ON THE RUN ON EVERY PLAY! EVERY, AND I MEAN EVERY D LINE IS IN HIS HEAD BECAUSE THE O LINE IS SO PUTRID!

    I’m starting to rethink the “who’s guilty” of malpractice concerning players. As bad as the O line “DEFINITELY IS”, perhaps a guy or two is on the O line that’s “running out of the door” after the games? Idk… They ALL LOOKED BAD

    In fact, they All look weak. They aren’t physically capable of stopping the Defensive line last night. Go back and watch the tape. THEY AREN’T STRONG ENOUGH! NO JOKE! I couldn’t believe my eyes on the play where Bake tossed the ball to Lucky and the ENTIRE D LINE jogged right through the O line, (the ENTIRE D LINE).. And when Bucky looked up to run…. He had a WALL of Black in front of him with NO, NOT, NADA Orange jersey to be found! I’ve NEVER even seen that before!!!

  89. unbelievable Says:

    I know exactly who those few players are, and it’s blatantly obvious:

    – Winfield
    – McCollum
    – Reddick
    – Vildor (though he’s a backup, so he doesn’t deserve the same level of ire)

  90. Les Says:

    We need to draft big mean dogs ! Not short guys thst cant cover .light has to go to . This secondary always got put on the back burner for a draft . 4 years and now it really shows it’s ugly head. . Let’s get a nfl coach who can take some guys with him . Kubiak’s son comes to mind. Or good coaching tree people ,rams ,kc. , green Bay, plenty to choose from . Do it ! This bowls coaching has to stop .

  91. LakelandSteve Says:

    Judging by his play I would say one of the guys who has checked out is Antoine Winfield. He just looks different on the field than he used to.

  92. Newbie Says:

    You are what you tolerate! You Todd Bowles are the head coach. You are in charge.

    YOU ARE WHAT YOU TOLERATE. ITS ALL ON YOU. While you can’t control the injuries, damn near everything else is on you and your staff. All I know is that YOUR SPECIAL TEAMS IS ATROCIOUS and YOUR DEFENSE STINKS. And if there are a couple of turds in the bowl that’s on you Todd Bowles. You are what you tolerate.

  93. Kidfloflo Says:

    Are they going with the few bad apples excuse!?? If a player or two is a malcontent and loafing or disobeying schemes etc. Why in the world wouldn’t u bench them or make it known that it won’t be tolerated!??especially if ur ass in on the line, i.e.Bowles!? I’D call their asses out in practice, on T.V. , press conferences etc! Hell Bruce called out Brady for F- Sake, and he’s one of the best to ever suit up, so im baffled by why this is still a problem

  94. DMoney Says:

    I feel bad for Tykee it was so obvious since the bill game he was putting his body on the line for this team. Pretty sure he has concussions and was playing thru it. He is our best player on defense and I knew without him we would be toast. It’s horrible because yes our defense is not chock full of talent but everyone is capable of carrying their weight but they aren’t and it’s making even the leaders check out. Honestly we can nearly scrap everyone but Vita and Tykee at this point.

  95. heyjude Says:

    It is poor management in any organization when a person who is in charge states that there are a few employees dragging them down, but never actually takes care of the problem with the individuals that need to hear it and improve immediately. They blanket it to all and include the ones actually doing the job right. Or keep saying they are all doing everything right, a sugar coat.

    Todd and Jason should have addressed a player or players that are dragging them down and took care of things in the last trade option ending in November. Crickets at that time. Or did they try and no one wanted those players? Yes, one or more poor individuals can really bring down a team no matter where you work. And there is something to this now with the Bucs.

    Something has been off since the bye. And not for nothing our bye was around the same time as the trade option.