Saints Knock Off Panthers 20-17
December 14th, 2025
Man, Joe needs a shower after rooting for the slimy Saints today against the Panthers.
What an ugly game in New Orleans but the Saints rallied and played good ball in the second half to ruin the Panthers’ day. The Saints kicked a game-winning field goal to walk-off with the win 20-17.
The Saints (4-10) stopped the Panthers on a critical 4th-and-1 late in the game. Sound familiar? And Saints edge rusher Chase Young had a key sack.
Carolina (7-7) is now tied with the Bucs atop the NFC South. And Carolina continues to be the most inconsistent team in football. Today, they simply had no firepower. Bryce Young threw for 161 yards despite very limited pressure on him.
If Carolina had won, the Bucs would have been facing a win-or-go-home game against the Panthers in Charlotte next Sunday. That didn’t happen.
Gotta love the Saints going on a two-game winning streak to screw up their draft position.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:37 pm
It so hard rooting for the Saints, but awesome!
December 14th, 2025 at 7:37 pm
Yes let’s go bucs !!
December 14th, 2025 at 7:37 pm
Back on top with 3 games to play, just like we drew it up
December 14th, 2025 at 7:37 pm
All I can do is laugh at this point boys I hope we make the playoffs but I really do think we still need a coaching change no matter what
December 14th, 2025 at 7:38 pm
Wow! This division is so inconsistent. I hope Panthers play like that next week.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:38 pm
lets win out!!!!!!!!
December 14th, 2025 at 7:38 pm
The saints calling a QB draw with 12 seconds left and no timeouts left was crazy and even more crazy the panthers commit a dumb penalty after too put them in field goal range 🤣 you cant make this stuff up its like nobody wants too win this crusty division
December 14th, 2025 at 7:38 pm
Time to refocus let’s win this division!!
December 14th, 2025 at 7:38 pm
Don’t get too excited Blows is still our head coach. Im sure he’s already working on how to lose the next game
December 14th, 2025 at 7:38 pm
So what? Unless the Bucs man up it means nothing. How will this team respond?
December 14th, 2025 at 7:39 pm
Once again, the NFC South proves to be the toughest division in the NFL from top to bottom.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:39 pm
Next Sunday is going to be very interesting just when I was out on this team here we go getting 1 more shot
December 14th, 2025 at 7:39 pm
For the panthers next week, is it win or go home?
No. Still 3 total games to play for both teams. –Joe
December 14th, 2025 at 7:39 pm
holy cannoli…
let the games begin…
welcome to the rollercoaster ride of a bucs life…!
🙂
December 14th, 2025 at 7:39 pm
Panthers beat Bucs
Seahawks beat Panthers
Dolphins beat Bucs
Winner takes all in week 18.
Just as I predicted over a month ago.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:39 pm
We win 2 of 3, any 2 of three and we are in ,,, do we deserve it ,, maybe not , but who cares ,,, can’t win if your not in tourney ,,, Plus they play Seahawks so a split may do it
December 14th, 2025 at 7:40 pm
Bucs better go in carolina an kick a.. next week!
December 14th, 2025 at 7:40 pm
Baker and the offense will have to win it. No way in Hell the defense will be of any help. Offense will have to overcome Bowles and Gizz.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:40 pm
Kstoge. I agree 💯 percent bro time for Baker and Bowles to and this defense to step up now . All we have to do is beat the Panthers one time now because of the Seahawks win we get the tie breaker.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:41 pm
If the Bucs don’t beat the Panthers next week it will be on the coaching staff, not the players.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:41 pm
Well i hope the Panthers enjoyed their two day first place position lol 😉
December 14th, 2025 at 7:41 pm
The season from hell
December 14th, 2025 at 7:42 pm
Still rooting for the Bucs next weekend. We got bailed out, and luck has went our way big time. Now, if this doesn’t motivate this team to secure a playoff spot, I don’t know what will. We control our destiny right now, but we really can’t afford another loss. We have to win out, which means our defense has to step up next week. GO BUCS!!!
December 14th, 2025 at 7:42 pm
Watch their offense come alive against Todd’s defense.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:42 pm
I’m very excited for the Bucs but make no mistake ,,, Moore is by far the best coach in the division ,,, I like Todd so he still has a lifeline thanks to Kellen
December 14th, 2025 at 7:43 pm
It would be a perfect cherry on the top of this season for our beloved Bucs to win the next three games, pull off the round 1 upset and be competitive in a loss in round 2.
Then we can all yell at each other for the next 9 months. LOL
December 14th, 2025 at 7:43 pm
Baker and Bowles are playing for their careers the next three weeks.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:44 pm
On my way to check out the Panthers chat room. That has to be hilarious
December 14th, 2025 at 7:45 pm
yep this one’s coming down to week 18 at ray jay…
whoda thunk…!
December 14th, 2025 at 7:45 pm
Young will have 400 yards and four TDs next Sunday in a rout of the Bucs.
It’s impossible to calculate just how awful the NFC South really is.
Only in this division does Bowles manage to keep his job.
I fear we could get stuck in limbo for another three years.
Never fear though. Bowles has taken this defense down to a level that even a good offense can’t paper over.
31-17 Panthers next week. Then we get beat by the Dolphins and it’s finally over.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:47 pm
Rusty Shackleford Says:
December 14th, 2025 at 7:43 pm
Baker and Bowles are playing for their careers the next three weeks.
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Who are the Bucs replacing Baker with?? Name some alternatives.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:47 pm
Won’t matter even if we stumble into the playoffs if we continue to play as bad as we have been, will just be pummelled and everyone outside will say they always expected us to be one-and-done, coming out of the bad NFC South.
Even if we win the next three in a row, I’ll have no expectations if the offence continues to misfire, and the defence continues to give up big scores and plays consistently.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:47 pm
You say there’s a chance… Still want Bowles fired even if we make the playoffs.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:47 pm
The NFC South is a disaster. Once again the Bucs fate is in their own hands, we’ll see if they can stay motivated more than one game in a row
December 14th, 2025 at 7:47 pm
Unless wins next three and goes deep in the playoffs. Like NFC Championship game at least.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:48 pm
I didn’t really think it would happen but it did. I hope Bucs prove me wrong Sunday also. That’s what I hate about a loss on TNF or before bye. Just smolder extra days before you get a chance at redemption.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:48 pm
We need to be ready for Shough next year – cause hes the real deal.
Best for Shough is he faces Bowles twice per year for the next few years and he’ll have a montage of highlights to leverage for his next contract.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:48 pm
That was enjoyable. Can-do Canales going for it instead of taking a 2 score lead with a FG. Looks like The Panthers don’t like playing after a bye either.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:48 pm
A certain group in these comments the last few days are very nervous now.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:48 pm
The NFC south. The Short bus division
December 14th, 2025 at 7:48 pm
Playoffs could start week 18. Hope this resets the team and gets them hyped
December 14th, 2025 at 7:48 pm
Bucs just got an opportunity, let’s see if they seize it. “Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!”
December 14th, 2025 at 7:49 pm
From the Panthers forum:
It’s obvious at this point. When NO rookie QB’s can make throws into the middle of the field for first down after first down, but our 3rd year QB gets these weird play calls that can’t find a single person open, it’s not on Bryce. It’s obviously coaching. So tired of this poo.
Did one of you sneak over there and post something? Something about this sounds familiar…….
December 14th, 2025 at 7:49 pm
Always believe in my Buccaneers no matter what !! Especially with ME13, CG 14, and McMillan all back in the game !!Also, it sure feels a lot better knowing the Saints defeated the Panthers !!
Go Bucs !!
December 14th, 2025 at 7:49 pm
BURN the Orange uniforms, throwaway and don’t throw back !!!!
December 14th, 2025 at 7:49 pm
Bucs will sneak into the playoffs by the hair on their sacks and Bowles will get another extension. Bucs life.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:49 pm
This is great and I want the Bucs to win the division but don’t fool yourself, Young is going for 250+ and multiple TDs next week vs this Bucs D.
I hope I am wrong and they finally decide to sack up and play inspired ball but I am certainly not getting my hopes up.
Let’s hope Baker gets his stuff together and the offense is hungry ready to put up points every week here on out.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:49 pm
So what. We won’t win again this year.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:50 pm
Nice sack by Young from the edge late. Hope the Bucs can do that next week.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:50 pm
If the Bucs defense doesn’t step up then this team isn’t beating anybody.
Bowles is supposed to be a defensive guru, let’s see it next week against the Panthers.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:50 pm
So Canales knows how to choke, just like Todd. I am not getting my hopes up because Bryce Young has has 3 good games this season, 2 were against the Falcons, he will probably carve up the Bucs’ D next Sunday foor his fourth as Bowles will not change a thing on defense. He is all words and no actions because he does not what to do. If he did, whe would have done something already. Only hope for Tampa is if Baker gets the Bucs 35+ points and even then I could see the Bucs losing 41-38 or something like that because of Todd Bowles.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:51 pm
Yea Bucs 95 that designed QB draw at midfield with 9 seconds and no timeouts was absolute bonkers. We just try to repeatedly hand games to each other in this division.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:51 pm
Chucky. Draft a quarterback and let him sit behind Baker until he’s ready that’s why Green Bay always a contender. Because they can build the rest of their team on both sides of the ball and when it’s the young quarterback time to play he will have a team around him that’s how you sustain susess.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:51 pm
This better be an eat your cake and have it to situation. Win the division, maybe win a playoff game (hopefully win the SB!) and make a coaching change still!
Haha I can prolly live with Bowles another year if they won the SB or even got there but anything short of that and we need a new guy or at least a new DC! Everyone and their mother knows it.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:52 pm
WOW, thought I saw that score but could not believe it!!. Man nobody wants to win this division. All these teams are just bad period. No wonder people want to change the playoffs from the division winner automatically qualifying tor the playoffs!!!. Their is not a team in this division that should even remotely qualify for the playoffs.
Well the Bucs get another chance, hard to imagine, but ok.
Hopefully they don’t embarass themselves next week losing with another 3rd and 28. However, we have seen anything is possible.
Yes Go Bucs. However if we do manage to out last the Panthers for the playoffs, we may still be embarrassed once in. The only possibility, the offense somehow finds 2 guards that can play and they score 50 plus points and can avert 3rd and 28. How about 3rd and 48 may be the key.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:52 pm
Didn’t think Saints would win but glad they did.
Wonder is Bucs-Panthers next wee.k will get flexed
December 14th, 2025 at 7:53 pm
I’ve been saying this a long time now but Todd Bowles got to go next year or less we get to the NFC Championship. It’s still NFC Championship or bust no more excuses I’m not changing that.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:53 pm
The Saints are the toughest team in the division right now.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:53 pm
yes this could be like a hard reset of some sort…
divine intervention from the sports Gods or something…
i mean……you never know
December 14th, 2025 at 7:54 pm
Who Dat! Credit to NOLA for playing hard all year (vs ATL who tried to give us the game, but alas…).
-> Vs TB too puking all over the field for last two months. Can we get our beloved Bucs pull their collective heads from their bruised buttcheeks in time to save the season?
December 14th, 2025 at 7:54 pm
Part of me wants to be optimistic, they now hold their destiny in their own hands, but they just lost at home to two horrible teams. Could’ve put both of them away and didn’t. Could’ve held both of them at the end and didn’t.
The coach is throwing the team under the bus and not taking responsibility, his defensive scheme is just not getting the job done… Week after week.
The offense continues to stall horrifically at times. Baker is just not as accurate this year because of injuries as he was last year.
The play from the guards is horrendous.
But….. The talent level is there. They can still go deep in the playoffs.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:55 pm
That loss by Carolina does not help us get rid of the dead weight AKA our head coach that’s for sure. I’ll give it to Todd he’s got nine lives he’s like the nightmare that won’t end.
December 14th, 2025 at 7:55 pm
teams peak…like i’m sure payton would like his broncos to take a loss around now, then turn back up, to roll into the playoffs…
trajectories change…maybe this will cool off the panthers
December 14th, 2025 at 7:58 pm
“Especially with ME13, CG 14, and McMillan all back in the game !!”
with ten days rest and Knowing They have to win the game with no help from the defense. Its all on griz to come up with a winning gameplan
December 14th, 2025 at 7:59 pm
Defense needs to grow a pair and Baker needs to get his head out of his a$$. Keys to the game.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:00 pm
this was a real slap up side the head to the panthers…
and right before the big bucs game…
a real knock you down a peg type loss…one that makes a team question them selves, like as if you were a buccaneer haha lol
December 14th, 2025 at 8:00 pm
Not sure why anyone in our fanbase would be happy with another division title and early playoff exit. The only chance we have of progressing is for Bowles to get fired. Unless the team wins the Super Bowl this year, I don’t want to see another year of good start, mid season slump, barely win crap division and early playoff exit. Isn’t 4 years of that enough already?
December 14th, 2025 at 8:00 pm
David, you wrote that the Bucs suck, but can go deep in the playoffs. Which is it?? Haha
December 14th, 2025 at 8:03 pm
This changes nothing about the Bucs. They are still a bad, bad football team this year. And Bowles still needs to go.
Reading the comments reveals that more than a few fans are living in a fantasy world — there is no way this team wins a playoff game, let alone makes a run.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:03 pm
Called it on the night the Bucs lost to the Rams, I said they’d then go east and lose to the Panthers, then the Panthers would end up losing the Saints.
Not about the Panthers being a bad team, they’re just young and inconsistent – the type of team that can be the Rams then get swept by the Saints.
What I was wrong about was thinking Baker would actually show-up these last two weeks and not lose the games by playing like trash. We all know the defense stinks (although the defense more than did its job vs the Saints) and the team was literally built to win on offense. Again, for the 100th time, lets just hope Baker heats up. If he does, if he catches fire, anything can happen – and that’s not just wishful thinking. And for you morons yelling about the defense – well, you win by scoring more points than the opponent, so focus on that, that’s how the team is meant to win and will win if it’s going to win.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:06 pm
Joe, do we still hold the third tie breaker if we split with Carolina and finish the season with the same record?
December 14th, 2025 at 8:06 pm
Time to activate the secret weapon. JPP to the rescue. lol.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:06 pm
Too bad the stankin Panthers beat the Rams who whooped us like we stole something
December 14th, 2025 at 8:07 pm
dbbuc711 Says:
December 14th, 2025 at 7:52 pm
Didn’t think Saints would win but glad they did.
Wonder is Bucs-Panthers next wee.k will get flexed
HAHAHAHA, Flexed to the Comedy Channel maybe
December 14th, 2025 at 8:07 pm
@ Rod… well put.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:07 pm
Here’s the playoff picture…
The Bucs win the division if they win at least 2 of the next 3 or if the Bucs beat the Panthers once AND the Panthers lose to the Seahawks.
That’s it, the only scenario where the Bucs make it – and everything is still completely in their hands.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:08 pm
Outrigger Says:
December 14th, 2025 at 8:06 pm
Joe, do we still hold the third tie breaker if we split with Carolina and finish the season with the same record?
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YES, Bucs have the tie breaker.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:11 pm
For those wondering, yes the Bucs CAN make the playoffs even if they finish 8-9 – so long as one of those wins is vs the Panthers, then the Panthers lose their other game not vs the Bucs (they play Seattle at home).
December 14th, 2025 at 8:11 pm
Second chance to get it together!
December 14th, 2025 at 8:12 pm
So much satisfaction for Bowles haters losing so the Bucs increased their playoff chances.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:12 pm
Same question I asked the last few weeks:
Even if we get 2 of the next 3, what do you really think next year will look like. Do you actually think it will turn out any different?
December 14th, 2025 at 8:14 pm
Third tie breaker is record among common opponents. Right now Bucs are 6-5 and Panthers are 5-6. Common opponents remaining are the Dolphins for us and the Seahawks for them. I have a feeling it’s going to come down to the last game of the season at Ray Jay.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:16 pm
rod low key out of pocket, greeted the masses, with an “i told ya so”…lol
December 14th, 2025 at 8:17 pm
this is not a 2nd chance to get it together…it’s like a 4th or 5th chance 🙂
December 14th, 2025 at 8:18 pm
“Wonder is Bucs-Panthers next week will get flexed”
Highly unlikely. There are far more interesting games that will draw much bigger national audiences. The game really means nothing. The Bucs could lose and still win the division by winning the next two. In fact, if I have figured this tie breaker scenario out correctly, the Bucs could lose the next two and still win the division by winning the final game, providing the Panthers lose to Seattle.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:19 pm
lavonte needs to soak his helmet in a smelling salt liquid solution before all remaining games 🙂
December 14th, 2025 at 8:19 pm
If the Panthers play like that next week..we will find a way to play worse
December 14th, 2025 at 8:20 pm
Kings of the garbage pile.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:20 pm
Win next 2 its ova
December 14th, 2025 at 8:20 pm
BUTT MUNCH, IS A LOSER
December 14th, 2025 at 8:22 pm
Outrigger
Yes , we hold the tiebreaker if we end up with the same record……we have the edge with common opponents
December 14th, 2025 at 8:24 pm
1-2 wearing the creamsicles this year, sacrifice those uniforms to the Great Pumkin, quit playing like Pumkin pie! It’s all about additude, quit bringing back the Deamons of the PAST!!!!
December 14th, 2025 at 8:26 pm
Rod stayed course and called it. I lost faith after Rams game. I hate being negative but Bucs make it tough at times. Best Bucs news in 4 days Panthers lost. I will take it.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:26 pm
No one in this division deserves to make the playoffs.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:26 pm
Oneilbuc Says:
December 14th, 2025 at 7:51 pm
Chucky. Draft a quarterback and let him sit behind Baker until he’s ready that’s why Green Bay always a contender.
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Bakers 30.. Favre and Rodger’s were 36.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:27 pm
As much as losing out on the division would give us a better draft pick and easier schedule next year, I just can’t root for us to lose. I’m hoping we can take 2 of the next 3 and the division and play with some pride. If nothing else then for ME’s sake. I felt so bad for him Thursday night. If this is his last season (I hope not), I want the team to go out winning. LET’S GO BUCS!!!
December 14th, 2025 at 8:30 pm
Feeling thankful we play in what maybe is the worst division in nfl history. Go bucs!
December 14th, 2025 at 8:31 pm
Won’t matter
It’ll be a lose out situation and regime change in 3 weeks
painful wasted season
still hard to believe 4th and 14 or clock management with the ball and a 2 point lead with 2 min and change
this team is the pits (Pitts)
December 14th, 2025 at 8:32 pm
Win for Mike! Go Bucs!
December 14th, 2025 at 8:33 pm
Baker was sitting pretty with a 112 passer rating… then the pick happened. Learned my lesson. Wait til the final gun before praising number 6. 😊
December 14th, 2025 at 8:33 pm
After 6-2 I thought my season total bet over 9.5 was secure…now.we have to win out!!$$$ im almost more concerned about that than losing in the playoffs round one with a 8 win record
December 14th, 2025 at 8:34 pm
BassCrazy: “1-2 wearing the creamsicles this year”
Actually, you got it Bass Akwards, BassCrazy. The Bucs are 2-1 wearing the creamsicles this year. They beat the Jets and Seahawks in the original white creamsicle jerseys and lost to the Falcons in the orange version.
To the best of my knowledge, the Bucs have lost every single time, every year that they have donned the orange creamsicle throwback jerseys.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:36 pm
What’s the hatred to this guy Munch, he’s expressing his opinion. If you don’t like his opinion then say so in a productive manner. I personally don’t agree with him all the time, but he is making valid points. It seems he his calling out Mayfield for his poor performance of late. He’s spot on with that in my opinion, Mayfield as of late has been very disappointing, he teases you with a couple good throws, then throws the game away with a terrible throw. Mayfield is inconsistent at best. Absolutely terrible interception late in the fourth quarter of last weeks game. Inexcusable!
December 14th, 2025 at 8:39 pm
Let’s stop with the excuses that he is playing injured.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:50 pm
Capt Ahab. You must not have been here long.
You haven’t seen his name calling with anyone disagree with him.
Also he use to tell people that disagreed to ” get their head caught in a running lawnmower. God bless”. And much more.
You will learn if you stay.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:50 pm
Doesn’t matter about Panthers, Bucs aren’t going to compete with their putrid defense. Most of us value the ME13 and CG14 opinion of Mayfield versus Munch opinion. Next year with Mike McCarthy Bucs will rebuild the defensive mess.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:50 pm
So…let me get this straight…
Fans want the Bucs to lose so Bowles will be fired
Some fans want the Bucs to win and still fire Bowles.
Others don’t know what the fu…. they want.
Rod is right…Baker has played poorly lately but his early season heroics won several games for us. When that stopped….we stopped winning
December 14th, 2025 at 8:52 pm
Hahaha… now its time to win against the Panthers!
December 14th, 2025 at 8:52 pm
Also. You aren’t the team doctor and don’t know anymore about Baker’s condition than those expressing their opinion.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:54 pm
I am hopeful now the Bucs got a dose of reality and realize they have been given a slim chance to win the division.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:55 pm
Just win TB!
And if they don’t…. yeah, no bueno… so win!
December 14th, 2025 at 8:55 pm
This team will lose out. That’s what these bunch if quitters do. Offense would have to put up 35 to 38 pts each game to have a chance with the honorific Bucs defense.
December 14th, 2025 at 8:59 pm
CaptAhab,
Munch is a legend in his own mind. Will concede that few could high step as well with a clarinet in his high school marching band.
Munch was always envious of the football guys which led to his arrested development.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:02 pm
If Mayfield was injured and can’t compete then the Bucs bring in the next guy, ohhh it’s Washed up always injured Bridgewater. The Bucs should have never replaced Kyle Trask with an old washed up, lousy, fragile Bridgewater. That was a move I found ridiculous. Absolutely terrible by Jason Light, Bridgewater has experience they tout. Believing in experience is in the eye of the beholder. Yes Bridgewater does have experience, that experience is not really a productive experience. We could have Ryan Leaf, Dan Mcquire, Akili Smith, Matt Lienart or maybe Jamarcus Russell, they have had experience.
Experience is good and fine, when it’s bad experience what’s the point?
December 14th, 2025 at 9:04 pm
Ha ha, rod. You have an admirer 😊 moldilocks gets a friend 😜
December 14th, 2025 at 9:04 pm
HAHAHAHA, Flexed to the Comedy Channel maybe
🤣
December 14th, 2025 at 9:04 pm
Capt Ahab Says:
December 14th, 2025 at 8:36 pm
What’s the hatred to this guy Munch, he’s expressing his opinion.
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That’s just the Baker Boi(s) cult. They display a pathological parasocial fixation on Baker Mayfield. Their attachment appears to have formed after repeated exposure to his television commercials, which produced an artificial sense of familiarity and led them to believe they have a personal relationship with him.
This fixation manifests in compulsive protective behavior. They reflexively defend Mayfield from any criticism, selectively dismiss negative performance data, and have been seen literally rummaging through his trash to remove anything that might reflect poorly on him. Clinically, this pattern is consistent with maladaptive parasocial attachment, commonly observed in individuals who misattribute personal significance or relational meaning to media figures.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:05 pm
“I personally don’t agree with him all the time, but he is making valid points.”
NO he is not and neither are you. Absolutely no one has stated baker is playing elite level .However
NO objective person jumps over the ATROCIOUS Defense to whine about the QB incessantly. You AND ROD illustrate the agenda driven group that is just obsessed with Baker
Your team (allegedly) took back the lead and have a better chance to get in the playoffs and in thread about THAT you are on your Baker soap box with nothing else to offer. Well besides the silly complaint the most rude and name calling regular poster in this community is being mistreated
bad int? yes. Lost the game? NO. the offense walked off the field for the last time ahead. Much more common for a Qb to throw a pick than a defense to give up 3-28
December 14th, 2025 at 9:05 pm
No NFC South team deserves to be in the playoffs. They should let the 4th wildcard team take it with at least 10 wins.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:06 pm
There is no reason to root for your team to lose….mot for a draft pick…not to fire the coach ….not for money (because you bet on the wrong team)
No reason to root for a loss or you’re not a real fan….just an observer.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:07 pm
MikeBuc Says:
December 14th, 2025 at 9:05 pm
“I personally don’t agree with him all the time, but he is making valid points.”
NO he is not and neither are you. Absolutely no one has stated baker is playing elite level
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See what I mean with the Baker Boi(s), it’s a literal mental disorder.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:09 pm
Get Player/Coach Suh in here to get the defense to man up.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:12 pm
No matter how badly the panthers may play next week, we’ll play down to them. We always do.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:14 pm
Agree with a deep playoff run or make a coaching change. Panthers loss is awesome and we’re back to playoff talk, and maybe, hopefully, we’ll wake the hell up and make some noise. Missing both stating guards is killing is though. Well, less then our D is.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:20 pm
Dang Munch. Now I need to consult the dictionary.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:21 pm
Sounds like you all should play the Panthers getting 2 at home next weekend ,,, not me ,,, I’ll put my money on the Bucs next week,,,‘and we are still a big fav to win division and get in the show ,,, once you get in the show who knows
December 14th, 2025 at 9:21 pm
Just say no to the playoffs focus on the future fire Todd Bowles!
December 14th, 2025 at 9:21 pm
@rod
They display a pathological parasocial fixation on Baker Mayfield.
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🙂 or alternative hypothesis – the group identifies an individual with a napolean complex who can’t allow a difference opinion without childishly calling everyone “morons” on a regular basis
poor baby. feeling persecuted because the chickens have come home to roost? there is a treatment to heal your mental anguish
just grow up. Only the kiddies are buying you are a football guru because you say so anyway
December 14th, 2025 at 9:22 pm
What will they do with this gift? I’ll say it again….MUTINY! Maybe Bowles did call a perfect game in the Super Bowl, but he hasn’t since. Time for these professionals to act professional. Stop letting the opponent catch everything and hope you can tackle them. COVER SOMEBODY! Stop giving their quarterback uncontested targets.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:22 pm
if they get in at 8-9 and Seattle beats them close in the wild card round does bowels get fired still?
December 14th, 2025 at 9:29 pm
I believe that based on the Bucs’ edge in common games, the Panthers have to either sweep the Bucs, or split and have TB lose to Miami, while they win at Seattle.
If the Bucs win at Carolina then against Miami, they can rest in Week 18.
Or if Carolina wins against the Bucs and then Seattle, and then the Bucs lose to Miami, the Bucs are out.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:30 pm
Great job this week Bucs! Heroes really
December 14th, 2025 at 9:30 pm
Great position to be in to still have a chance. Still have the overwhelming feeling Toilet Bowles will learn nothing and embarrass this team next Sunday
December 14th, 2025 at 9:30 pm
Maybe the Saints are better than we think while the Bucs are not better as we thought.
They only have a few more games left to turn around their season and we will know when the Bucs and Panthers play next Sunday.
The problem is the Buxs and Bowles have some serious issues and neither sides have shown any progress.
Its now or never TIME
December 14th, 2025 at 9:31 pm
Jeff(site idiot) was wrong again when he predicted Carolina 40 New Orleans 10.
Just like he says Evans isn’t going to be in the HOF.
Idiot.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:32 pm
Bucs need to win out, make the playoffs again… and draft Oline in round 1 and round 2.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:34 pm
MikeBuc Says:
December 14th, 2025 at 9:05 pm
“I personally don’t agree with him all the time, but he is making valid points.”
NO he is not and neither are you. Absolutely no one has stated baker is playing elite level .However
NO objective person jumps over the ATROCIOUS Defense to whine about the QB incessantly. You AND ROD illustrate the agenda driven group that is just obsessed with Baker
Your team (allegedly) took back the lead and have a better chance to get in the playoffs and in thread about THAT you are on your Baker soap box with nothing else to offer. Well besides the silly complaint the most rude and name calling regular poster in this community is being mistreated
bad int? yes. Lost the game? NO. the offense walked off the field for the last time ahead. Much more common for a Qb to throw a pick than a defense to give up 3-28
Spot on MikeBuc. It makes little sense to believe one player is responsible for the whole team’s play making. Let’s fixate on individual defenders, or a drop pass happy receiver and a lineman that can’t block the wind
December 14th, 2025 at 9:38 pm
Kstoges 100% correct. Go Bucs can’t root against us to force a change at head coach But it is needed. He has 8 years between 2 teams. He is a 1970 coach stubborn mule
December 14th, 2025 at 9:38 pm
Baker is no slouch, he certainly gives his all. With that said he’s not playing winning football lately. Prior to the Atlanta game he was averaging 130 yards a game over the losing streak. You can’t throw a ridiculous interception in the fourth quarter of a close game. Baker has not been clutch lately when the game is on the line. MVP talk has gone by the wayside.
Obviously the most pressing problem with this team is the poor defensive performance, with that said, Baker’s mistake late in a game was detrimental to the outcome against the Falcons.
Some guys are winners. Some are not.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:45 pm
Curse of Gruden Says:
December 14th, 2025 at 9:20 pm
Dang Munch. Now I need to consult the dictionary.
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More simply put, the Baker Boi(s) cult are a bunch of nutjobs who liked his TV commercials and desperately want to be friends with the guy who was living in the stadium in Cleveland because they thought he was funny.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:50 pm
MikeBuc Says:
🙂 or alternative hypothesis – the group identifies an individual with a napolean complex who can’t allow a difference opinion without childishly calling everyone “morons” on a regular basis
poor baby. feeling persecuted because the chickens have come home to roost? there is a treatment to heal your mental anguish
just grow up. Only the kiddies are buying you are a football guru because you say so anyway
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Can the Baker Boi(s) just once come up with a good comeback that isn’t cringe. Is that asking too much? I like a good back and forth and can really enjoy a good insult even at my own expense, so long as it’s funny or witty. Instead it’s constantly a variation of “I know you are but what am I” or some other equally stupid and uninteresting comment.
Seriously, why doesn’t the entire gang there in Cleveland put your heads together and come up with one good, mean, hurtful insult. I swear if it’s a good one I will give you full credit.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:51 pm
Joe with all due respect about the last comment of draft picks why can’t we be like the Rams who say fu$k those draft picks
December 14th, 2025 at 9:53 pm
Bucs need a radical prostoddectomy.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:56 pm
Oh shoot! Doesn’t bode well for the Bucs. The panthers will be pissed for loosing the game, and the Bucs defense is perfect recipe for getting their offense back on track.
Oh wait, the Bucs also lost this week, but do the players care enough to:(
December 14th, 2025 at 9:57 pm
I’ve got this weird feeling that our Bucs might just come alive down the stretch. Hear me out, and perhaps I’m nuts, with profanity Bowles and some really pissed players (Evans 3-28 as example), we might see some actual fight and some accountability down the stretch. I’d love to hear about a players only meeting happening this week.
IF our Bucs come out pissed, and Baker gets hot – we could make some noise.
Someone here posted about Wirfs moving to LG with Chews playing LT. I support that if Wirfs was up for it. Missing our guards has been brutal.
December 14th, 2025 at 10:02 pm
Rod: “Baker Boy” checking in here. Yes, do blame Baker as you do expect him to be able to find an open man in 2.12 seconds before his pocket collapses entirely — I agree with your assessment based upon your criteria.
December 14th, 2025 at 10:08 pm
We win next week or week 18 and Panthers lose to seahawks in week 17 and we’re in. Bowles is gonna pull another mediocre division championship out of his hat and continue to hold this franchise back.
December 14th, 2025 at 10:09 pm
Hey — for the rest of you: I previously called out Rod Munch on his man-crush for Baker Mayfield.
I just want you to know, Rod’s just really angry because Baker has been unable to don a cape for him every game.
Don’t worry Rod. Keep the faith. Baker will be your hero.
December 14th, 2025 at 10:10 pm
Total embarrassment. Same as every other season for the past four-years. NO ONE wants to actually ‘WIN’ this division. Panthers sweep the Falcons, then are swept themselves, by the lowly SAINTS.
December 14th, 2025 at 10:15 pm
On a Sunday, where THREE future HOF’ers went down. Two ‘first-ballots’ for THE SEASON. The Rams CAN’T play Adams on Thursday Night, against the Seahawks (if he’s even available). Packers are now without their TWO BEST Players, for the rest of the season… Kraft and Parsons. Tough sport.
December 14th, 2025 at 10:17 pm
Rod Munch Says:
December 14th, 2025 at 9:45 pm
“More simply put, the Baker Boi(s) cult are a bunch of nutjobs who liked his TV commercials and desperately want to be friends with the guy who was living in the stadium in Cleveland because they thought he was funny.”
Now you’re speaking my language!
December 14th, 2025 at 10:19 pm
Munch wears a size 6 shoe and has tiny hands. Women find him non threatening and admire his crocheting. Wish he would go help the Dolphins.
December 14th, 2025 at 10:23 pm
‘74 Bucs Fan Says:
December 14th, 2025 at 9:57 pm
I’ve got this weird feeling that our Bucs might just come alive down the stretch
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It’s not an absurd thought, I’ve seen saying it for a few weeks now, that if Baker can get hot, the team has enough talent to do some damage in the playoffs.
The one thing about being an inconsistent QB, is that hot streaks can start with no warning, and I do think in the 3rd quarter of the Atlanta game, that we started to see the Baker heating up, before he threw that awful INT and then went back into the Baker we’ve seen for the last two months.
But if Baker catches fire, plays like Trevor Lawrence played today, which Baker is capable of doing at times, then the team can absolutely beat almost anyone.
December 14th, 2025 at 10:29 pm
Munchkin, your continued obsession with Baker and defense of the lousy Defense is an absurdity.
December 14th, 2025 at 10:29 pm
The Bucs got lucky, that is all there is to it. The only way this team gets on track is if Evans, Lavonte, Vea, basically the guys that won a super bowl, find alternate ways to motivate the players who seem not to care or are checked out. I’d also tell Bowles to go pound sand when he makes idiotic decisions. Sometimes you have to ignore the boss for the team to be successful.
December 14th, 2025 at 10:32 pm
Gipper Says:
December 14th, 2025 at 10:19 pm
Munch wears a size 6 shoe and has tiny hands. Women find him non threatening and admire his crocheting. Wish he would go help the Dolphins.
Ex-Browns02 Says:
December 14th, 2025 at 10:09 pm
Hey — for the rest of you: I previously called out Rod Munch on his man-crush for Baker Mayfield.
I just want you to know, Rod’s just really angry because Baker has been unable to don a cape for him every game.
Don’t worry Rod. Keep the faith. Baker will be your hero.
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See what I mean about the Baker Boi(s), they’re clearly mentally ill. Why would either person post their comment if they were of sound mind? A normal person would read what they wrote, and say, wow, that’s cringe, and decline to engage. But they need to prove to Baker that they will do anything to defend his honor, so they sacrifice their dignity in a vain attempt to “protect” him from criticism.
I’ll pray for you both.
December 14th, 2025 at 10:32 pm
Watch the all 22 of the falcons. Interior collapsing all game. Geesh, Barton regressing. Feeney useless. A wonder we got 28…
December 14th, 2025 at 10:38 pm
If you suffer from BDS maybe watching the final 3 games and the first home playoff game is not for you !!! Baker , with some help , can take us deep in the playoffs , but he does need help,, not every QB is Josh Allen (Superman) , some need a good coach , OC, structure (Drake Maye) ,, Some just may need the right coach (Trevor Lawrence )(Jordan Love) (Bo Nicks),, some may just need an Awsome defense (Stroud), Baker has non of that at the moment ,, so give the guy a break till you supply him with something
December 14th, 2025 at 10:45 pm
Rod Munch, been enjoying some fine Lugos rum this evening (if you know, you know) and just for S&G rewatched the Bucs / Seahawks game from this year. A few posts ago you mentioned Baker getting on a heater. If anyone has the chance to rematch that game two things are clear:
Baker and EE were playing with extreme confidence. We are missing that now but if it ever came back we could be…hmmm….interesting going forward.
That was the first sign of the defense looking like it might be a problem.
December 14th, 2025 at 10:47 pm
@rod
A normal person would read what they wrote, and say, wow, that’s cringe, and decline to engage.
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Finally an admission you realize you need therapy.
For the other problem – saw in a documentary about the70s that platform shoes were a thing.
December 14th, 2025 at 10:56 pm
@Let em Bake
Geesh, Barton regressing.
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haven’t reviewed the all 22 but did notice him getting bull rushed and losing within a second
December 14th, 2025 at 10:57 pm
Rod — thanks for your prayers. Sorry — Baker is not the problem here. Yes — he’s human and he screws up like we all do, but he’s not the issue here.
December 14th, 2025 at 11:12 pm
Even if the bucs win the division i believe todd bowel’s wont be back next year. Baker mayfield plays hard and with heart but will never ever be a winner he just plain sucks
December 14th, 2025 at 11:14 pm
I know I am one of the optimistic posters, so I am going to say Barton’s development was severely impacted by the LT shenanigans earlier this year and the ridiculous guard shuffling around him as the year has gone on.
Honestly, the OL injuries this year have been almost comical. Not just “this guy is out this week” but multiple occasions of “hey, we need a new guard after the first series”. This is the reason I have a hard time grading Gizzard. Is he bad? Maybe. But the constant flux of personnel makes it difficult to judge.
December 14th, 2025 at 11:20 pm
They don’t say that anymore. 🙂
December 14th, 2025 at 11:24 pm
Rams are having to stockpile picks now, since they know they have to replace Stafford, being priority #1.
December 14th, 2025 at 11:27 pm
Drunk Bucs Fan Says:
December 14th, 2025 at 10:45 pm
Rod Munch, been enjoying some fine Lugos rum this evening (if you know, you know) and just for S&G rewatched the Bucs / Seahawks game from this year. A few posts ago you mentioned Baker getting on a heater. If anyone has the chance to rematch that game two things are clear:
Baker and EE were playing with extreme confidence. We are missing that now but if it ever came back we could be…hmmm….interesting going forward.
That was the first sign of the defense looking like it might be a problem.
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Well keep in mind that the Seahawks lost two of their top DBs before the game, then lost a third one early in the game – and because of that, they pulled a Todd Bowles, and went to super soft zone, that the Bucs destroyed.
Unlike Bowles, the Seahawks defensive coach came out and said he wouldn’t make that mistake again – and the Seahawks defense has been one of the best in the NFL outside of that game.
Which is also why there is still hope, even on defense. If Bowles would stop being an idiot, and was aggressive like he was vs the Lions and Pats, and didn’t just sit in zone or go to zone in key situations, this defense can look completely different. Literally just call different plays and the defense is ultra aggressive and gets sacks and turnovers – yet Bowles refuses to do it if there’s a single injury in the backfield, he does the same thing the Seahawks did vs Tampa, with the same results.
As for Baker and EE, that game the Bucs are missing Mike, had a shell version of Godwin, Bucky was out, and Luke was out – and no McMillan. The Bucs offense would be a lot more loaded in a rematch.
The only team that truly would worry me in the playoffs is the Rams, since the Bucs are sentenced to always lose that match-up when it matters for all of eternity.
December 14th, 2025 at 11:32 pm
Won’t matter, next week young will throw for 450 yards and 5 touchdowns
December 14th, 2025 at 11:38 pm
The Seahawks were without at least their top 3-4 DB’s for that Bucs Game. I couldn’t imagine going back and watch that. Like, WHY… A Week-5 Game!? Must be porn to these Baker Bois. Hahaha, I rewatched UNLV and Larry Johnson, Stacey Augmon, Greg Anthony, & Anderson Hunt Games all the time (that early season #1 vs #2 Arkansas Todd Day & Lee Mayberry Game at old Barnhill Arena, over and over), and also the “Michigan Fab5” games (over and over, the early season freshman year OT game against Duke – Webber’s debut when he went OFF and ‘hit the rim’ for the winner from half court in regulation)… BUT, I Was Like ‘14-15’ LoL.
December 14th, 2025 at 11:42 pm
Ya know Itzok, that’s the thing. I don’t think any of us, optimistic homers and pessimistic posters combined, have felt as bad about our team we all love since 2019. Kind of sucks, to be honest.
Anyway, opti-trolls like me will hope for the playoffs. Could be foolish, but faint hope is better than no hope at all.
December 14th, 2025 at 11:54 pm
MelvinJunior, because it was halftime of the Sunday night game and figured what the heck, better than blah blah highlights of teams I don’t care about.
December 15th, 2025 at 1:24 am
Rod Munch , you are very right.
When I think about the reasons for the offense regressing, I try to think about what is the cause. I think there are several:
🏈 The Offensive Coordinator. I feel for him because he’s a rookie OC, but I also don’t feel this team has the time for him to improve. I could be wrong. We got lucky having two consecutive good OCs.
🏈 Offensive Injuries. They certainly played a big role.
🏈 Mayfield Injury. With an injury riddled OL, he’s been taking far too many hits. It was a matter of time. But I think it’s more than that. I think he’s lost confidence in the OL.
December 15th, 2025 at 1:59 am
Buccaneer Bonzai – I just think Baker is what he is, and that is an inconsistent player. Last year, while the end results were very good, if you review the schedule, before the bye, Baker was very inconsistent – then post bye, vs a bunch of teams with bad defenses and starting backup QBs, he played a lot better.
This year, he starts out the year hot, then once we got to the meat of the schedule, he faded badly. Of course injuries all over the offense are a big part of that, and I literally gave him a ton of slack all year. That slack ended when he lost the Saints game AND people tried to blame the defense, who gave up 260, got an INT and three sacks – that should win you pretty much every game, in particular when they make a 4th quarter stop and give the ball back to your MVP QB.
But in any case, with all that inconsistency can come hot streaks. And certainly getting back Bucky, Godwin, McMillan and Evans can help aid that hot streak starting. I thought for sure we’d see it vs the Falcons, put literal money on it (that I lost because those hack refs took the TD to McMillan off the board), but I still think he’s close to a breakout, and if that breakout happens, it might be enough to carry him through the end of the year and into the playoffs.
December 15th, 2025 at 2:10 am
Baker is not making the right reads pre-snap and he’s not seeing the field. He’s holding onto the ball for too long when he can’t afford to. Then, ‘panicking’ and rushing throws when he doesn’t need to. He’s not hitting guys in-stride short, because his timing his off. And, then he’s not hitting them downfield, because he’s throwing-it behind them. About the only thing he had the other night, was just throwing-it up to Mike, and hoping for him to come down with it… Which he mostly did. He’s just way off and kind of lost right now. But with Baker, that can all change very quickly, for a little while… Until, it doesn’t again. That is just Baker.
December 15th, 2025 at 5:02 am
Supporting the buccaneers is like marrying your sister, you know that its wrong but you do it anyway , mainly because you want to chase the thrill …. until you finally realize that Coach Bowels gameplay is uglier than your sister, but either way…..you still get screwed…………
December 15th, 2025 at 7:06 am
Baker really wants to beat the Panthers. He was on that team, and then went to the Rams. It’s personal. Go Bucs!!
December 15th, 2025 at 12:19 pm
lmfao uglier than your sisiter