Gerald McCoy Says Bucs Have Had Internal Problems
December 12th, 2025
Troubling words from Gerald McCoy on X this morning regarding what’s going on behind the scenes at One Buc Palace.
The retired six-time Bucs Pro Bowl defensive tackle offered a defense of Todd Bowles, to a degree, and noted Bowles’ profanity-laced tirade last night was in the works and no shock to him.
Here is McCoy’s exact quote:
“Good morning Bucs fans. I already know yall gonna be upset with me and that’s fine but remember im a fan just like yall at this point. Im frustrated too. But I’ll say this we can’t just say Todd Bowles Todd Bowles. I know for a fact personally…….. Not just from film, TB press conference last night was brewing. At some point we have to say ok when do we look at the players. People ain’t doing what they are supposed to during the week and it’s showing in the game. That’s all imma say. Take what you want from that.”
Often, McCoy says publicly that Lavonte David is one of his very closest friends. So it’s no stretch to believe McCoy is getting his intel directly from David.
This is very troubling, and not surprising to Joe. It’s been written here that something has been rotting in the Bucs’ locker room. Joe has smelled it for weeks.
Remember, another former Bucs player with tight current connections in the locker room, Richard Sherman, also said publicly weeks ago that the Bucs are not a top team because, “I know some things.”
Regardless, if there have been issues in practice, then that speaks to Bowles and the team’s highly overrated leadership. Simple as that.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:37 pm
Has to be a big name or high salary player that is the culprit
December 12th, 2025 at 12:38 pm
Where’s Waldo Winfield?
I appreciate the candor, let’s start calling dudes out. I only speculate winfield is having an issue because: last night he got torched for the game sealing play, he’s been invisible most of the season, he left the locker room early and didn’t have media availability last Sunday after the saints, he’s the highest paid safety in the league, and mostly because I have seen what he’s capable of on his first couple seasons in the league. He was a complete beast and blue chip safety.
I hope I’m wrong and he can bounce back, but I can’t help but ask what’s going on there.
I’m curious about it all, would appreciate if we could start calling out individuals whom are above the team.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:38 pm
Bowles and Jason Licht who loves to draft “locker room guys” need to go. Tom Brady won the superbowl, not arians not licht… Licht CANNOT survive 3 fired coaches.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:39 pm
Tear it all down man. Back to the stoned ages! What a sh!te show this season has become.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:40 pm
Smoke —> Fire
Season burning to the ground.
Time to call the fire department and put / call this s(p)it out.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:42 pm
It’s the coach’s job to get the player buy-in. If you can’t get everyone pulling in the same direction, it’s time for you to go.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:42 pm
If it’s these couple of player causing all this then why are you letting them out there. Makes no sense if it’s that bad. If they cause all the loses why not play someone else and work on improving them. Just like the Devon White issues… at some point being a friend instead of coach needs to stop and that falls directly back on Bowles and his coaches
December 12th, 2025 at 12:43 pm
These are Todd’s hand picked players. He’s had a hand in all the drafts. He’s had a hand in player development and player regression. His team is soft. His team doesn’t listen. I wonder where they get that? Todd doesn’t listen. Todd’s MO is excuses. Todd’s players play to the ceiling and floor the head coach sets. No chance the Bucs win the next two games. Against two teams with an upward trajectory. Bucs…not so much. Bucs win the last game but are out of the playoffs. They never played well enough to be in a playoff. Todd, his staff and Jason, who constructed this team are fired. A new head coach will right the ship but it will take a while to really clean house of the Todd / Jason stench.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:43 pm
Bowles and the Bucs organization are in a state of panic. Does anybody think that Jason Pierre-Paul fits the profile of a team leader? This is the same guy that waved goodbye to the Tampa skyline from hundreds of feet in the air, referring to the Tampa Bay area as a “hoe” while laughing hysterically. Bowles and Jason Licht are trying to deflect from the awful downfall of this team by bringing in a washed up duce bag to help turn things around??? I’ve finally joined the “Fire Bowles” bandwagon.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:44 pm
But how do you get to that point? Poor leadership.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:44 pm
I think it’s Winfield it sure was on that 4and 14
December 12th, 2025 at 12:47 pm
So I read Bowles literally came out and said Winfield did his job correctly – that Vildor blew the coverage.
But yeah, let’s trash one of our few star defensive players for doing their job correctly. Said it a billion times – the vast majority of people comment have no idea what they’re watching. They think Winfield lines up soft and chooses to play back – as if the coaches don’t have a say in it. Then they see Dean line-up way off, and they bash Dean saying he’s awful and refuses to get up closer, again as if the coaches have no say. Then, shockingly, Zyon does the same thing – then next man up, etc etc etc. Why does everyone ignore the coaches and keep playing soft? Why don’t the coaches demand the players stop doing that? Dang you players for all doing the same thing and ignoring the coaches!
December 12th, 2025 at 12:47 pm
It’s the crap head coach and his staff of idiot yes-men. Bucs would have 9 wins if Coen was the HC. Licht and the Glazers blew it. This will take years to fix. Oh, and Baker’s not that good.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:49 pm
914Bucsfan is absolutely right… this “great character Locker room guys” stuff has got to be re-evaluated. Sometimes you need some guys will get an attitude. That don’t have any other options… these guys last night got manhandled by a team that has been eliminated and got torched by backups.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:50 pm
Rod Munch,
Thanks for clarifying. May I ask your take on why Winfield has zero impact o games for most of this season? I don’t remember him. Along his consistent top-shelf impact? Frankly, almost no impact.
Who the heck is dogging it? I’m genuinely curious and would
Love to know which players are selling out?
Vildor made a mistake, I wish we have enough firepower on defense to overcome mistakes. We don’t.
I wish Licht would have traded for a proven defensive lineman. They were there, and he chose not to. I get it, but I hate watching our lack of
Pass rush. It’s humiliating.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:50 pm
Winfield would not be a surprize at this point. He has but disappeared.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:51 pm
If the players are not buying in to the clown show coaching staff that’s on coaching not leading the team and putting them in positions to win they wanted these players they fought for them now the players are trash hmm cya Todd.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:51 pm
I wake up every morning after a loss and hope to see a headline from Joe that reads “Glazers Clean House, Licht, Bowles and Others Fired!” Only to be disappointed.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:52 pm
I lived in Tirana, Albania for 1 year as a teacher.
Albanians say “if you give them your hand, they take your arm.”
Bowles is a players coach. He treats them with respect, kindness and dignity.
The players have taken advantage of his loyalty and love and have betrayed him.
His players are not playing hard because they are taking advantage of his kindness.
Izien is better than Winfield. Cut Winfield next year.
Zion looked happy leaving the field last night. Cut him.
It’s time to remove some heads.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:53 pm
Soft rebuild
December 12th, 2025 at 12:54 pm
It has to be a MAJOR house-cleaning starting at the TOP with Lickt and Bowles. There are just way better options than both of those two. It’s run it’s course. The owners need to wake-up, cut their losses, and the grow a pair of BALLS. Show SOMETHING. ANYTHING. Show that YOU have what it takes to land YOUR MAN. It is amazing how many “Lickt-Lickers” there are who have bought all this Bucs “culture” BS. And, they have the entire way! Hook. Line. And, Sinker. Slurping EVERY last drop of it until the bitter end. So, How’s Is TASTE!? For the it was the “right move” keeping Todd over COHEN crowd.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:54 pm
Lee don’t let me down I want to hear you go off on this clown show on the podcast inexcusable all the way around.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:54 pm
Seems players don’t know what to do and coaches don’t know how to fix it. Mass confusion from top to bottom. Who is supposed to bring all of this together? The coachs’ job is to get everyone on the same page and that’s not happening. This is so ugly. No excuses really. What a waste, fitting it was in the throwbacks. Nfl follies here we come. It’s a Bucs life!Fire over confident mistake prone clueless opposing qb loving Bowles! Immediately.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:56 pm
Winfield would be my guess. He’s been pretty much absent since he got paid. Last night he was a day late and a dollar short just about every time you saw him (if you saw him at all). How bout Barton? I get that he’s got scrubs next to him, but there is a LOT of pressure up the middle. Tackles are getting it done. Other than one game Nelson is the invisible man. He never sets the edge on run plays, that’s why we get busted constantly on runs to his side. I miss Will Gholston. Couldn’t rush a passer, but go ahead and try and run his way. On D nobody is where they are supposed to be (at least I hope that’s the case, otherwise the scheme is really that bad).
December 12th, 2025 at 12:56 pm
SteveK Says:
December 12th, 2025 at 12:50 pm
Rod Munch,
Thanks for clarifying. May I ask your take on why Winfield has zero impact o games for most of this season?
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Sure – and it’s a fair question. Go look at the play the Joes show where they said Winfield screwed up – they thought so because why else would he be that deep on coverage. Before knowing the Bowles comments I pointed out that zone looks like every Bowles zone. He literally has Winfield lined up 30 yards deep like 80% of the time. Not joking, literally 30 yards deep. That’s not Winfield choosing to play that style on his own – that’s by design.
That’s why people ask, where is Winfield? Bowles has him as the man of last resort – completely wasting him in this stupid zone scheme.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:57 pm
Sure thing. Players are indeed sometimes the issue.
But you can’t move out everyone and it’s the HC job to get the most out of the players.
So unfortunately even when it’s not the HC, it’s the HC.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:58 pm
Back when we had a coach and Leonard Fournette was the one with the bad attitude the coach fixed it so well he earned the nickname Playoff Lenny.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:00 pm
Told y’all should have watched the lightning instead like me
December 12th, 2025 at 1:00 pm
another vote its winfield
As a leader of the team haven’t heard a peep out of him and with a juicy contract under his belt one of the few with not much to immediately lose by phoning it in
Plus theres something weird about reports referencing he still may be upset over ref calls many weeks ago. maybe soured on the NFL in general?
December 12th, 2025 at 1:00 pm
Pp you people forget. Winfield has made a lot of plays this season. Do you remember the game? He returned two fumbles for touchdowns and both touchdowns were taken away by the refs. He’s made a lot of other big plays. But it’s very difficult to make plays in a bad scheme like Rod said, it’s on the coach. The coach is the one that puts the players in the position that they are on the field, and if the player does not do what the coach tell him to do is the coaches fault for having him on the field instead of on the bench. Stop blaming the players when they’re only doing what they are told to do by the coach. And even if some players have checked out, mentally, I do not blame them because they are playing in a bad scheme. The coach is constantly putting them in positions where they cannot succeed. He supposed to be a blitz and coach and all of a sudden on third and 28 he doesn’t blitz Just like refusing to go for it on fourth and three against New England. Is that the players fault? That play alone is enough to lose the locker room.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:01 pm
There has been ZERO player development with this bunch. And, by the way, Morrison was a “healthy scratch” last night, AGAIN. Dude’s been ‘practicing’ for 2-WEEKS, too!!!! Who is that ON!? Hell, THEY DRAFTED HIM and KNEW what they were getting. 2nd-ROUND with THAT HISTORY.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:02 pm
It is the definition of “Losing the Locker Room”
December 12th, 2025 at 1:04 pm
I figured it out who it is. The edge rushers aren’t putting in enough minutes practicing pass coverage…. right???
December 12th, 2025 at 1:04 pm
McCoy said we can’t just Todd Bowles but ultimately it is on Todd Bowles. If a player is not performing sit him down. We’ve seen healthy scratches before.
Remove the cancer. We’re not winning with the cancer on the field, might as well not win with them of the field
December 12th, 2025 at 1:04 pm
Licht isn’t going anywhere, but that was Bowles last straw.
Remember this as well, Raymond James is having a big conference this week in Tampa. All of the top guys for our corporate sponsor were at that game last night, and they saw first hand – many of them for the first time – what the product they’re sponsoring actually looks like. Bowles cussing presser after then made him look incapable of both leading a team (especially on primetime), and representing a team.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:05 pm
The sword needs to fall but anytime Winfield or mccollum want to start earning their salary we’re ready for them to
December 12th, 2025 at 1:08 pm
Hassan Reddick, lack of giving a $hit.
I saw that ending coming after Baker and ME13 decided what they would do right before the snap for the game clinching INT. Loved having 13 back, 11 was awesome. Why was Sheppard even active. 1 run 20 yards and shut him down. Not like he quit like ROJO. This is the 2-5 team that lost 3 straight home games. Not the 5-2 team that started the season. Love the Bucs but they need to shed some dead weight. Good Offensive core. Blow up the D!
December 12th, 2025 at 1:09 pm
The Glazers need to start talking to the agents for Kubiak, the Seattle OC and LaFleur, the Rams OC. Start figuring out how you can convince on of them to replace Bowles though the Giants, Falcons, Titans, Arizona, and Vegas owners are probably already reaching out and making short lists. It will be interesting who the Falcons and Bucs end up with as I think Rah is gone just like Bowles. The ATL might not go back to the Rams in their search as that is where they hired Rah from along with their OC: Zac Robinson who has been labeled by ATL fans as the only inept disciple of the McVay coaching tree though he did figure out hot to torch Todd Bowles soft zone just like everyone else.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:09 pm
1. Kayden McDonald
2. Harold Perkins
3. Anthony Hill Jr
4. CB
5. S
Trey Hendrickson-FA
Matt Patricia-DC
Rams ball boy-HC
December 12th, 2025 at 1:10 pm
I’m a firm believer guys simply dont forget how to play…..some of these mistakes being made are either from getting paid and now they aren’t studying film OR off the field they are distracted. Look back at both Doug Marting and Josh Freeman…..promising careers that unraveled quickly. Either way, the coach has to have the courage to sit them and that’s where Bowles has failed or found himself in a pickle. He knows he has to win and i believe sitting starters in his mind is a formula for losing. Ultimately Bowles looking out for his own best interest has likely tanked his own season. He should have benched the problem players a few losses back.
The idea that the players should hold them accountable for him is a weak position. Do you think Parcells would have any problem ripping a dude on the sideline for a screw up? What about Jimmy Johnson? Did Gruden have an issue benching Keyshawn? Belicheck used to rip Brady in front of the entire team…..Bowles doesnt hold guys accountable in a manner that gets them to perform. In this case he should throw them directly under the bus in the media and during the game. That would wake up the others and send a clear message but Bowles himself has stated he is closing in on retirement. I get the impression he’s simply old/tired and not up for the confrontation that’s needed. that’s why its time to go with someone who is looking to stick around vs coast to retirement.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:13 pm
Winfield playing that deep only makes sense if there’s 10 seconds left in the game and his only goal is to prevent a touchdown.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:13 pm
Got to be a high profile/high paid Defensive player….
Vea, Winfield, LVD are the only three in that category…
My bet would be that Winfield is the culprit…..
December 12th, 2025 at 1:15 pm
Thanks Rod,
30 yards deep is crazy! Our punter can’t even kick it that far.
I miss Winfield in the box, being menace, sacking the QB, causing fumbles. He was arguably better than Wirfs his first couple seasons. I want him back, and long for having a dog out there in the middle.
He is very responsible for us making a SB run. In hard on him bc I’m just a dumb ass fan who can watch the games and gripe that he’s invisible. I hope he comes out swinging these last three weeks.
Watching Bowles presser last night, i appreciated his candor and also felt bad bc he seemed like a really great human. He’s won a SB as a player and as a DC. He should have some more pull.
I hope we can see Licht get ballsy and make a
Splash trade for an edge rusher or defensive game wrecker. We need one. We look impotent, toothless, soft, lacking from the edge rusher
Watching Braswell try to chase down Pitts in the fly on coverage about made my head explode last night. So
Stupid seeing edge rushers drop
In Coverage and get torched. Maybe if they could actually impact the pass rush they wouldn’t drop in coverage so often.
Something is not right with the Bucs and they have three weeks to fix it.
I hope JPP gets to evaluate the level of dog in our players. He’s a freak athlete, and absolutely a dog. I remember one time buccaneers radio
Picked up him yelling at players in the locker room after a pathetic loss. It made my heart smile to hear his seething passion and being unabashed in calling it low he sees it.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:19 pm
I hope we can bring Bruce, Chucky, anyone in to talk to these guys and chew their asses. They may get paid and not care. But shine all the light on it we can so we can rid ourselves of the me first players on this team.
Also, being in a GM consultant to help Licht make a trade for an edge rusher and stop picking players who can’t get home to the QB.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:20 pm
Silver lining? The eagles had a massive collapse the year we beat them in the playoffs. Everyone in Philly wanted their coach to be fired. Nobody knew what the problem was, other than there were problems. After we hosed them at Ray J, they kept the coach and went on to win the Super Bowl the very next year. Why not us
December 12th, 2025 at 1:22 pm
Successful coaches ‘adjust their schemes ‘ to get the most out of their players talents. Bowles has a system that he sticks too and expects the players to adapt. Refuses to make adjustments when something is NOT working
December 12th, 2025 at 1:23 pm
News flash if the best player on your defense is a safety, your defense sucks if you have a great secondary, your defense sucks. Biggest deficiencies on our team are offensive line and defensive line. It’s no mystery at all why we are at 500. Injuries on offense line and lack of talent on defense line.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:24 pm
Winfields gotta go. Hes been lacking since last season
December 12th, 2025 at 1:24 pm
Tampabaybucfan, add Zyon to your list, he is getting paid too. My vote is Zyon, Reddick and Winfield. but the rot can run really deep in that locker room. I just know Bowles has lost the team and like Joe has said, the smell of rot has been in the locker room since the Buffalo game, probably before. In the end it is easier to fire a coach than all these loafing players. Adios Todd.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:25 pm
How about Vita Vea?
So sick of him smiling and laughing on the sidelines or dancing around after a decent play.
He could/should be the leader of this defense and in the locker room.
Big p***y.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:26 pm
Duh,
I’ve been telling ya’ll this for weeks. This team has been broken since Detroit. The defense has flat out quit. It’s beyond obvious they just don’t care at all.
Baker is seeing ghosts and playing erratically. The o-line is as inconsistent as can be. Special teams belongs in a special needs class.
THE TEAM IS BROKEN.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:27 pm
Players have to police themselves and you need some dogs to develop a culture and help keep each other accountable. In the glory days it was Warren Sapp. Hardy Nickerson was the guy who changed the culture before that. We don’t have guts like that on this team. Yes Bowles must go because his scheme sucks and he makes no adjustments but to really change the culture in the locker room it starts with the team leaders.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:29 pm
Call Jimmy Sexton to gauge interest, and then show up ‘in-person’ to the Oregon Playoff Games. Full. Court. Press.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:30 pm
All off season…
“We’ve got the best culture “
“We all love each other, pull for each other, live each other”
“We are that man”
“We have the best resilience “
Blah blah blah.
Bowles and his awful staff have no control or effect on this team
December 12th, 2025 at 1:33 pm
If it’s the players then that’s an indictment on Jason Licht for picking the wrong players. If it’s the coaching then that’s an indictment on Todd Bowles. If it’s a combination of both, which is what it sounds like, then ALL must go.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:45 pm
I’ll tell you how bad it is. “orlbucfan” is nowhere to be found in the comment sections that I can find. She is as die hard a fan as it gets. I hope and pray she is well otherwise her silence speaks volumes.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:46 pm
Bowles fault this spilled over into the media. Now we know why there was no trade before the deadline
December 12th, 2025 at 1:46 pm
Once again, the foot came off the gas and they went to sleep. Only now is the sleepy Defensive Coordinator waking up enough to curse because he was aroused from his annual winter slumber.
This team has too much talent to be this lackluster!! It all points at one person! Hire an offensive minded HC because this team is built to score a lot of points.
#noconfidence
December 12th, 2025 at 1:47 pm
Players not doing what they are supposed to do, is due to poor coaching.
Coaches elevate talent and when the players do not do their jobs the coach must enforce punishment.
Who pray tell has been disciplined on this this team? Have we heard of fines? Healthy scratches? Not that I recal.
This is just Todd pointing fingers, he failed this team and franchise.
Most evident point is the special teams coach should of been replaced week 3!
December 12th, 2025 at 1:49 pm
Rod Munch Says:
December 12th, 2025 at 12:47 pm
So I read Bowles literally came out and said Winfield did his job correctly – that Vildor blew the coverage.
But yeah, let’s trash one of our few star defensive players for doing their job correctly. Said it a billion times – the vast majority of people comment have no idea what they’re watching
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Right on Rod. If you point out the obvious you get slammed. And they proclaim themselves to be “competent fans” and that they knew it all along.
Sad….
December 12th, 2025 at 1:55 pm
ATLBUC Says:
December 12th, 2025 at 1:00 pm
Pp you people forget. Winfield has made a lot of plays this season. Do you remember the game? He returned two fumbles for touchdowns and both touchdowns were taken away by the refs.
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Yeah that was week 8 bro, and he literally hasn’t done a damn thing since then, except play to not get hurt. Look how soft and pathetic his attempts at tackling are. Doesn’t touch a guy until there’s already been a 15 yard completion. Doesn’t wrap up, just throws a shoulder hoping it might take someone down.
Overpaid and overrated. Fans lap up him making a splash play once every 5 games, and ignore him constantly being out of position and late to make the play. Though to be fair, that describes 90% of the other defenders too.
This team is broken.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:00 pm
Rod Munch Says:
December 12th, 2025 at 12:47 pm
So I read Bowles literally came out and said Winfield did his job correctly – that Vildor blew the coverage.
But yeah, let’s trash one of our few star defensive players for doing their job correctly.
^^^^^
Perhaps Bowles changed his story after a talk with Jason about AWJr being very expensive and not jeopardizing our chances of getting rid of him. The weeping and gnashing of teeth is likely deafening inside One Buc Palace today.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:02 pm
There is no time in 2025 where cousins should be looking like gods gift to football cya Todd.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:05 pm
Rod Munch,
I think that the problem with Winfield’s decisions on that last pass was that he hesitated and was too worried about the inside guys when the outside man was clearly his guy to cover. So, if there is a problem (which I have heard Baker allude to as well as two other Bucs insiders) with guys not doing their homework and taking film as seriously as they should—well, you could see the frustration if the coaches went over those looks several times and tried to ram it into the players’ heads where they need to be. I am not in the locker room, but, when you see a coach that angry after a game- particularly a coach who has had success in the past with other players who gave a rat’s behind—then it makes me think that he was seriously frustrated by players not taking things during the week seriously enough. Just my thought on it.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:06 pm
Honestly I’ve bin thinking it’s Winfield but maybe just maybe it’s hasson Riddick. Think about it. Last year and the year before Bucs start hot then mid season slump but then they snap out of it. What’s has changed or who. It’s gotta be #5.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:08 pm
And I am not excusing Bowles on this—I am just saying that there is alot of blame to go around—the players, Licht, coaching staff, etc. I know one thing, if the fans get the idea that some of the players do not care (which are the rumblings), then we will see a mass exodus of season ticket holders until they fix this problem.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:08 pm
Two Sides to Every Story
Players aren’t doing what they should?
That’s too simple. Look cause and effect.
Bowles had TB12, Gronk, Suh, JPP, etc … a Super Bowl roster. He couldn’t win in prime time. He couldn’t beat great coaches. He couldn’t scheme to beat different teams. He hasn’t improved at all in 3 years.
Have you ever worked for a boss that sucks for 3 years?
3 years is fatiguing.
LOOK AT THE RINGS – AWJ, VV, WIRFS, EVANS, GODWIN, & LVD
These guys know how a Super Bowl team is coached. They know Bowles is waisting everyone’s time. Yes, it’s unprofessional but I’d argue it’s a result of Bowles inadequacies.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:10 pm
“You don’t make excuses,” Bucs coach Todd Bowles said in an expletive-laden reaction. “You got to (bleeping) care enough where the (bleep) hurts. It’s got to (bleeping) mean something to you. It’s more than a job. It’s your (bleeping) livelihood. How well do you know your job? How well can you do your job? You can’t sugarcoat that (bleep).”
That sounds like he’s losing the team.
I guess he’s history then.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:12 pm
Man, I would love to know the things that Richard Sherman knows and knew weeks ago…
Because to the public/fans, this skid is perplexing and ridiculous.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:12 pm
Zyon and AWJr are 2 candidates. How about Reddick ? Perhaps when he discovered that he wouldn’t be rushing the QB but instead would be dropping into pass coverage which in turn would impact his stats therefore affecting his chances at a big payday next year he developed an attitude.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:13 pm
When a coach throws his players under the bus, they turn on him. It usually means he knows he’s on borrowed time.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:13 pm
Falls on bowels. It will anyway. He should have benched or cut whoever it is. What a puss. He ain’t got the stones to take out the trash. For that he will be shown door number 1
December 12th, 2025 at 2:13 pm
WE NEED B.A. BACK AT HC IMMEDIATELY. Guaranteed that would fix things enough to start winning again.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:15 pm
I think the biggest problem this season has been that us fans expected a Todd Bowles led team to be better than average.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:16 pm
“…ok when do we look at the players…”
Bench them, regardless of how high they’re paid. We did it before with Keyshawn.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:20 pm
Idk if it’s Winfield or not he.made a mistake a huge mistake but there have been several guys all year who have played not great Zyon has had a bad year I hate to say it but it’s mostly guys who have been paid already but I feel like the leaders of the team are trying to get Todd to do one thing an he just won’t an guys are getting Frustrated he needs to play to there strength I’m sure guys are just pissed off seeing Our OLBs dropping in Coverage but to go from 6-2 to 7-7 no matter what happens these next 3 games Todd needs to go I still love Winfield he’s a class act an he has had some games this year an Todd needs to put his guys in the best position to win play to our guys strength you were bring. Pressure an got them into a 3rd an 28 an you stop bringing pressure an of course they get the 1st down which is just pathetic I believe this is the Monkey that broke the camels back In sorry Todd needs to go Damn I wish so badly the Bucs kept Coen an made him the HC he had Baker Thriving An Grizz might turn out to be good but he’s just not there yet he looked Alot better yesterday but
December 12th, 2025 at 2:23 pm
SlyPirate Says:
December 12th, 2025 at 2:08 pm
^^^^^
Spot on !
December 12th, 2025 at 2:23 pm
All I know is I am not buying anything Buccaneers until the coaches and players are held accountable. In business, when an employee is dragging the team and performance down you address it. If players are checking out, get rid of them. I’d rather have a passionate practice squad guy who actually puts the work in and pays attention to the detail. Nick Saban said, God-given talent will only get you to good at best. He also said, get the right guys on the bus in the right seats and the wrong guys off. Our head coach and GM are not doing this. When BA was around he held everyone accountable and chewed out anyone that did not get on the same page. Bowles can now curse all he wants, but he only looks desperate and weak now. Time to flush the toilet Bowle called the Tampa Bay Buccaneers!
December 12th, 2025 at 2:28 pm
This sounds like they are looking for a scapegoat and the machine is working overtime to run cover for Todd including this site.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:35 pm
What gets me over and over, I watched the all 22 we send four guys out. All four of them are blanketed and Baker has to force a tight window throw that half the time gets swatted in.
I look at their guys going out and our people are more like statues who wave at them as they run by with the ball
December 12th, 2025 at 2:36 pm
If players aren’t doing what they’re supposed to during the week and not held accountable then that’s on Bowles.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:39 pm
I believe McCoy. Unfortunately that just makes me more puzzled. If there are players causing this much of a distraction, they should have been benched or cut.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:43 pm
Zero contested catches. And its every week. You cant watch this team and say they fly to the ball or they fly to the qb. They just dont. They arent relentlessly pursuing anything other than money. I watched guys watching and getting moved and juked this team isnt good. These tackles and guards block like crap. And its an issue. The play calling is garbage. Bakers not trustworthy right now to get the ball out on time. We need to use the hurry up bc it lets baker not overtihink. Thats exactly what Coen did last year and got him outta the happy feet he tends to have. Whatever we do its time and time again situation football that we dont do what we need to do. Thats on every single one of them
December 12th, 2025 at 2:44 pm
You don’t have to be a football expert to know that this defense sucks
As a fan of 50 years I KNOW SUCK when I see it
The owners can’t be fired but the GM and HC need to go
You need a pass rush in this league to win
We make every qb we face look like A hall of famer
The fish stinks from the head down
JPP lol please
The ownership has to see what we see
It’s time for a rebuild
December 12th, 2025 at 2:45 pm
Winfield im guessing. Guy is useless now.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:48 pm
And yes, totally agree BucsFanatic55. Pass rush wins championships. I get JL has been trying to build through the draft, but guess what, even when you draft them, they havent proced anything in the NFL. So why is he hedging everything on this? His success was great when he went out and got two proven players in Suh and JPP. They needed that yesterday.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:50 pm
Once again Gerald…water is wet.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:55 pm
Winfield is like the one guy on the team we could get a high draft pick for
December 12th, 2025 at 2:56 pm
It’s not just on one guy but ultimately the Head Coach is responsible for wins and losses and his teams play. It’s always been that way and always will. If I’m a CEO of a corporation and I keep losing money for the company then the Board of Direction is going to fire me. Well the balls in the Glazers court.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:56 pm
While I do believe Bowles should be fired, I do feel empathy for him.
Disregarding the negatives let’s not forget the positive attributes he has shown and the circumstances that led to his hiring as head coach. Todd Bowles is a very good person that is very loyal, perhaps to a fault. He has been regarded highly by the players and organization, so we have been told. I don’t think he would have been hired as head coach were it not for the unusual circumstances at the time. Those unusual circumstances made his first year as head coach very difficult to win and to manage the TB12 and Leftnut debacle. The entire organization (my view) was dealing with the conflict caused by none other than Tom Brady.
Todd has paid the price. He deserves the respect for doing that. He has every right for an expletive ridden rant. He is limited as to what he can and can’t say. It is not all his fault. He does deserve a little mercy.
December 12th, 2025 at 3:03 pm
Dran got payed. We got played.
December 12th, 2025 at 3:03 pm
Deann got payed. We got played.
December 12th, 2025 at 3:06 pm
Dean is 1 of only 2 DBs (the other being Tykee Smith) that actually plays well, what are you talking about?
December 12th, 2025 at 3:08 pm
Bowles had TB12, Gronk, Suh, JPP, etc … a Super Bowl roster. He couldn’t win in prime time.
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@SlyPirate – Bowles 1st year as HC was 2022. Neither Gronk, JPP or Suh was on the roster anymore that season.
Not excusing his stubborn mediocrity and ineptitude, but that was a lot of talent that left / retired before he took over.
December 12th, 2025 at 3:31 pm
Same story different year
Same story different excuses
December 12th, 2025 at 3:36 pm
SB~LV Says:
December 12th, 2025 at 3:31 pm
Same story different year
Same story different excuses
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Same common denominator: Todd Bowles
December 12th, 2025 at 4:03 pm
Solution is simple. Clean house. Everybody has been paid. Licht, Bowles, the players. Everyone is fat, and happy. Glazers should feel like chumps. They’ve been fooled worse than the rest of us. Time for heads to roll.
December 12th, 2025 at 4:03 pm
It is all on the FO and OWNERS for putting TODD into this position in the first place. But, especially after last season and having COHEN inside the building. They could’ve told him to step aside (just as they did with B.A.) in favor of promoting Cohen to Head Coach, and then given Todd a gravy ‘ambassador type’ of job upstairs, for throughout the remainder of his career. Todd could’ve had it made-in-the-shade and been very well-respected, loved, and revered for what he had accomplished here (Super Bowl), for a very long time. NOW!? Well… it sucks.
December 12th, 2025 at 4:13 pm
I hate this Buccaneers team. They’re LOSERS.
December 12th, 2025 at 4:14 pm
Then why aren’t these guys sent home or benched to send a message. Why wasn’t there a blow up presser after the Pats game or the Rams game?
Too little too late Todd. Who is ultimately responsible for sorting out that locker room and getting guys on task by any means necessary to try to win football games? I would say it’s the Head Coach.
December 12th, 2025 at 4:15 pm
Bowles got to the playoffs (on the back of Coen) last year with Hayes and Funderburk in the secondary.
He doesn’t think he can afford to bench Winfield or Zyon for a game? Seems odd.
December 12th, 2025 at 4:20 pm
When your GM eliminates a ghurd of your draft choices you end up with a bunch of betas.
Jason Licht built this team.
December 12th, 2025 at 4:20 pm
*third
December 12th, 2025 at 4:21 pm
No Mercy you may be on to something. Maybe REDDICK was the problem on that Philly team and he is here.
December 12th, 2025 at 4:23 pm
MelvinJunior Says:
December 12th, 2025 at 4:03 pm
It is all on the FO and OWNERS for putting TODD into this position in the first place.
^^^^
Yes I agree. My theory is that the owners were timid in their decision making and likely made that decision by committee. Their lack of decisiveness and forward thinking has put them in a bad position now. Let’s see how they dig themselves out of this hole.
December 12th, 2025 at 4:23 pm
That’s like the biggest DUH comment ever. Star players on defense are freelancing constantly, effort is sub par. I call it a case of players don’t believe in the scheme or the plays being called, or at very least not trusting the guy next to them to do their job.
December 12th, 2025 at 4:23 pm
This has been brought up in the past and I have been saying it since Bruce Arian’s was the head coach as well. The Bucs have the most injury prone team in the nfl and the players continually slip and fall. The people that handle the small things nobody thinks about are a HUGE problem. From stretching out to cleats and correct gear.
December 12th, 2025 at 4:23 pm
Bonzai … ‘When a coach throws his players under the bus, they turn on him. It usually means he knows he’s on borrowed time.’
That’s it in a nutshell Bonzai. It doesn’t matter how the last 3 games turn out. Todd Bowles & this coaching staff is toast. So are a bunch of these players. The upheaval has just begun.
December 12th, 2025 at 4:25 pm
The two major problems the Bucs have faced for several years are “non special? teams and the inability to play Bowles version of zone defense. Confusion on pre snap, blown coverages and poor tackling. Did any of you “coaches” watch Indiana v OSU?? Did you notice how IU’s zone stymied the OSU offense. These kids were well coached for sure.
December 12th, 2025 at 4:37 pm
Idk, after all these comments – a few nuggets
– I’d rather watch practice squad guys play their hearts out than the crap we’re watching from some of our starters. Bench the guys that don’t give a damn.
– Agree 100% with a comment above on guys taking advantage of Bowles.
– I wouldn’t mind keeping Bowles as a head coach – he’s a good guy – but make him clean house on the D side – Hire a DC like Jim Leonard (he’s a fire starter) and give him Carte Blanche over the hire of his D coaches.
– Make Bowles fire his special team guys.
On the offensive side of the ball – give them all another year.
Just imo.
December 12th, 2025 at 4:38 pm
Many players feel the same way about Bowzo as the fans here do.
December 12th, 2025 at 4:43 pm
The question for me is this; Will Baker extend ? I doubt it. Will he want to take his chances on next year with a new regime or this same regime (heaven forbid) or will he ask for a trade or release ? Regardless, the Bucs slimed him.
I suppose it is possible that he could call the shots for the coaches next year but I doubt it. It seems to me that the owners have no good choices and likely will have to wipe it all clean keeping about 10 or 12 players. Maybe Baker will put his pride aside and sign for mediocre money and guaranteed years as a strictly business decision.
December 12th, 2025 at 4:55 pm
Liked all the comments
But don’t forget this all started with ARIANS
He called leftwich an offensive genius
Stayed long enough that the owners had to anoint BOWLES as head coach
I like BOWLES as a person but not as a HC
His head coach resume was not good
Spare me the empathy
I want a head coach to win
December 12th, 2025 at 4:56 pm
Sal keep an eye on the Rams this postseason, I suspect if they win a Super Bowl, Stafford retires. If this happens don’t be surprised if Baker reunites with McVay. The Rams don’t have a successor in house, and word is they both really respect each other.
December 12th, 2025 at 4:59 pm
Only one way to get it through to the ownership. Just dont go. Dont watch. Dont buy. Nothing says figure yourself out like taking the bread off the table. Watch how fast they fire and figure things out.
December 12th, 2025 at 5:05 pm
Jason Licht is going nowhere.
Baker will extend.
Bowles, however, cracked. Had he continued to keep his cool, injuries could have been blamed.
But he blew that.
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BucU Says:
December 12th, 2025 at 4:13 pm
I hate this Buccaneers team. They’re LOSERS”
Get over yourself. There are other teams. If you “hate” the team, move on.
This team has had a winning record for years. NOT LOSERS.
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December 12th, 2025 at 5:13 pm
TKraz acknowledged on the radio that Antoine Winfield Jr has been dipping out of the locker room after games.
Antoine Winfield Jr can be disgusted at the way the season has been going and dipping out or he’s just happy to be counting his Glazer loot and satisfied with 1 Super Bowl ring. Or another likely reason is he’s had enough of the coaches and is a non-believer. It’s not like he’s not making plays, it’s just that he’s not making them consistently as we’re used to or to his talent level.
December 12th, 2025 at 5:17 pm
Love how they come up with these theories lol
And everyone falls for it
He works for NFL he needs stuff to talk about BSBS
WE SUCK SIMPLE
December 12th, 2025 at 5:19 pm
Sit the culprit(s) on the bench or cut them…..their backups may not be as experienced, but maybe the play the game the right way. It can’t get any worse.
December 12th, 2025 at 5:22 pm
Has Bowles been fired yet?
That is why I keep checking back.
December 12th, 2025 at 5:26 pm
Its the coaches job to hold the team accountable and bench the guys not trying. You wanna let them coach themselves?
I couldn’t believe they extended this guy…still cant. If hes here next season 4 wins at best.
December 12th, 2025 at 5:26 pm
Soooo….i guess we release every player and keep the piss poor coaching staff that oversaw this collapse of the locker room?
All this means is that this coaching staff lost respect from enough high ranking players that the rot set in and they didnt notice it, or noticed it and did nothing. Either way….coaching staff/front office issue.
December 12th, 2025 at 5:29 pm
If we were 6-2 and banded together like a tight family unit not too long ago…and the coaches are the same…the scheme has been the same, and for some guys since the super bowl where we dominated! So why the sudden disconnect?? I get it if we started off 0-5 and the vibe was off from the jump, so im baffled by what the insinuation is now? I’m not a staunch supporter of Bowles, or his schemes, but if a player or two are causing internal strife as well as bad play on field, why in the world are the other vets or coaches tolerating the discord!?
December 12th, 2025 at 5:31 pm
This team isn’t 7-7 right now under a competent staff, but more importantly LEADERS that players buy into. They woulda been a 10-11 win team every year since ‘22. If you didn’t roll your eyes to the back of your skull when Bowles was announced to take over then idk what to tell you. Still sucks going through it in real time though
December 12th, 2025 at 5:40 pm
Conte Piscatelli Says:
December 12th, 2025 at 4:56 pm
Sal keep an eye on the Rams this postseason, I suspect if they win a Super Bowl, Stafford retires. If this happens don’t be surprised if Baker reunites with McVay.
^^^^^
I said that last week. I hope Tyler Higbee can catch a TD pass from Baker.
December 12th, 2025 at 5:40 pm
This is what “losing the lockerroom” looks like.
December 12th, 2025 at 5:44 pm
Sal Volatile Says:
Perhaps Bowles changed his story after a talk with Jason about AWJr being very expensive and not jeopardizing our chances of getting rid of him.
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Or maybe if you’ve ever actually watched Bowles trash zone defense before you’d look at the play and know immediately that Winfield is where he always is on that play – by design. You’d also know that the corner was supposed to drop and didn’t, opening the hole.
The stupid nonsense idea that Winfield is the issue is just beyond dumb. The issue is the same issue it’s been since Arians retired – it’s that Todd Turtle Bowles changed the defense to this soft zone crap and rarely breaks out of it, and can be counted to go to the softest zone possible on pretty much every 3rd down.
If you’ve ever watched any tape at all, you literally see this same dumb scheme, in 3rd and long, like 10 times a game, and it’s always with Winfield 30 yards off the line of scrimmage, by design.
You dopes talking about Winfield need to actually learn some basic football or shutup.
December 12th, 2025 at 5:52 pm
If there is a problem in the locker room, it’s up to Bowles and Licht to excise the cancer. Failure to do that falls on them. Glazers have no problem letting go under-performing personel, they’ve even let go Dungy and Gruden. Licht and Bowles are very much on the hot seat, and rightfully so. The team falls short in talent and in coaching.
December 12th, 2025 at 5:53 pm
Fire Bowles!!!
December 12th, 2025 at 5:55 pm
“about to end” says magic 8 ball….new season next year fellas…lets draft 🙂
December 12th, 2025 at 6:21 pm
@ Sal – Baker has ALREADY “EXTENDED.” Just this past off-season. Everyone continues to talk about this, but it is already DONE. He still has TWO MORE FULL-SEASONS LEFT (after this one). Of the ‘THREE-YEAR’ deal that HE JUST SIGNED. Now, the Bucs could ‘move off’ of him after next season with very little consequences, but that’s not going to happen. The ONLY “extension” there is to worry about concerning Good Ole Bake, is the NEXT ‘possible’ extension, that a decision does NOT have to be reached for still, another TWO YEARS. So, you have to allow HIM to play on this current contract at least, until AFTER next season. Maybe, THEN you could go ahead and ‘re-up’ him, IF he’s had a Top-10 season (on the cheap at a discount)… MAYBE. Otherwise, he plays it out in it’s entirety, which is STILL, two-more full-seasons. THEN, you decide. And, even then… You CANNOT hand HIM ‘top-of-the-market’ $$$$ over a longterm contract. Absolutely, NOT. Not for a 33-year old, constantly banged-up, smallish, inconsistent QB. Can’t. Do. It. CAN’T allow for even the ‘possibility’ of another Russell Wilson-Denver (or Curt Cousins-ATL) type of deal. Or, Tue and Lawrence either, even though, at least they are much younger. Can’t Do THAT. No matter WHAT. It’s not worth-it. Nothing over a 2-year deal, that is no more than about 75% of the tip top of the market. And, that is IF HE is solidly, well inside of the Top 10/12 QB’s in the league. But, again… There is NO RUSH right now.
December 12th, 2025 at 6:34 pm
@ Sal – WHY in the HELL would YOU give a damn if Higbee caught a friggin’ TD pass from BAKER!? Makes absolutely, NO SENSE. Are you 12!? And, BAKER IS GOING NOWHERE, at least not for another TWO+YEARS!!!! Furthermore, I believe that Joe Burrow is already planning-out his next move THERE. The Rams have the assets and picks. The Bengals should just do HIM and THEMSELVES a favor. Cause, if you thought that Chase, Higgins, & Trey got UGLY… Then, JUST WAITL Hold my beer! It’ll end up being just like Barry Sanders all over again, & he’ll end up just retiring. And, the Bengals (trying to call his bluff) WILL BE the only ones left still holding the bag. Just like the Lions.
December 12th, 2025 at 6:36 pm
Rod Munch Says:
December 12th, 2025 at 5:44 pm
Sal Volatile Says:
Perhaps Bowles changed his story after a talk with Jason about AWJr being very expensive and not jeopardizing our chances of getting rid of him.
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Very slowly read again what I said Rod. Use phonics if necessary.
Then go back and read what Joe said. You really wanted to call me a dope didn’t you. Sticks and stones you know…..
I don’t watch film. I don’t even watch the games or listen on radio anymore. But I do follow JBF and I’m sure the Joes watch film and are well informed about that which they write.
So Rod, are you calling Joe a dope for what he wrote in his post ?
Let me explain to you in the simplest manner possible what I said.
Using a bit of sarcasm (look it up) I implied that maybe Jason would prefer that AWJr not be made to look bad in hopes he may be traded. Jason may prefer Vildor be the villain not AWJr.
December 12th, 2025 at 6:41 pm
What would the Bucs compensation be if Mike Evans left for Houston in 2026 ?
December 12th, 2025 at 6:41 pm
@ BucsfaninOregon – you know better than that, I would hope? NO ONE is being FIRED with just three games left in the season. That would be extremely rare in the NFL anyway, especially for this Bucs FO. And, it’s not the way they are going to do Todd. So, NOT HAPPENING. Why waste your time.
December 12th, 2025 at 6:41 pm
i do not understand the surprised commeners that the Bucs are at .500 with just a few games left. I told you all Bowles would seek the .500 level one way or the other.
OK I told ya so!
December 12th, 2025 at 6:50 pm
Problem is Bucs season is over and it’s a extension of preseason. Bucs would have to go on a 7-0 run to hoist the Superbowl trophy. They aren’t capable because of lack of talent on the staff and roster.
Let’s at least use the few games left to evaluate the players to build around or move away from. There is more to it than just changing HC. It’s the coordinator(s), BA, S/T, and I would take a good look at the strength and conditioning/ medical team also.
December 12th, 2025 at 6:51 pm
You NEVER handover a chunk of money to an aging player (“Reddick”) who just sat out for most of the season before, in hopes of getting MORE $$$. It says that HE doesn’t love FOOTBALL, and is only looking for a CHECK. JL ‘thought’ he was getting a discount LOL. Hahaha No, he got exactly what he paid for. And, he got played. It’s the cost of desperation, and for lacking good instincts. It was LAZY and always doomed to fail, from the very beginning. It was so easy to see. Just very predictable.
December 12th, 2025 at 6:52 pm
By the way Rod, this is what Ira said; * Antoine Winfield Jr. led all players with 13 tackles, but he appeared out of position on the fourth-and-14 completion to David Sills on the right sidelines. Watch the play again and you can’t help noticing Cousins had a comfortable pocket to launch the pass that set up the winning kick.
But of course Ira doesn’t know anything about football does he Rod ? There I go with that sarcasm thing again.
December 12th, 2025 at 7:04 pm
For the very last time, I hope… BAKER’S CONTRACT is the very LAST THING that ANYBODY needs to be worrying about right now. IT IS DONE. ‘2-YEARS’ STILL REMAINING ON IT. After this season. There are plenty of ‘other things’ that people need to be concerned about other THAN THAT.
December 12th, 2025 at 7:29 pm
Licht should be able to stay…
He is a draft guru in terms of maximizing quality for his draft position….
Remember he drafts to fit the head coaches needs….
He didn’t choose Bowles to be the HC…
Arians just passed the torch to Bowles….
Let Licht choose the next HC along with Glaser ownership….
Hopefully we’ll get a staff that knows how to coach up edge rushers…
Licht has been pretty solid with trench players, and WR’s…..
December 12th, 2025 at 7:33 pm
Bud Says:
December 12th, 2025 at 6:21 pm
@ Sal – Baker has ALREADY “EXTENDED.”
^^^^
Baker is signed per Spotrac thru ’26
December 12th, 2025 at 8:00 pm
Licht is no draft guru and has a losing records as a GM(even with Brady).
That’s Brady’s ring he wears around. Jason Licht sucked before Brady and he sucks now.
We sign our own crappy draft picks at a high rate and that makes us losers.
Jason is HEAD LOSER. Fire everyone. Arians, Todd and Jason all need to be sent home…forever.
December 12th, 2025 at 8:02 pm
Mcsoftie talks about Toilet Bowles
Mcsoftie loved playing for Raheem another trash players Coach
No accountability
Go bowling instead of practicing
Crap Coach just like Bowles
December 12th, 2025 at 8:03 pm
I don’t understand these guys. You get paid millions to play a game. To live a dream that 99 percent of people will never get to and you can’t just show up and do your job. Starting to think after LVD comments today it’s not just Bowles that’s the issue. It’s some of these players not caring and putting in little to no effort. So much for the culture being changed.
December 12th, 2025 at 8:06 pm
Baker has not extended. He is signed for ’24/’25/’26 – years ’27/’28/’29 voided
For those paying attention there was talk last summer by the media about Jason extending him after this year. His performance was good so the media speculated that Jason might want to lock him up for the long term early and at a good deal. After next year Baker is an UFA per Spotrac. So what I am saying is that I don’t see Baker signing an extension this off season. Do you ?
December 12th, 2025 at 8:31 pm
To further elaborate, if Baker knows he has only one year left here and guano is hitting the fan in Tampa his options in my view are uncertain at this time. If Bowles returns with Grizz or another OC would Baker want to stay or would he ask to get out. I view that as a real possibility as the team is likely to be dismantled. If the team is dismantled along with the coaching staff leaving enormous uncertainty, would Baker want to stay for that ? In my view not likely. If the team is dismantled and an all new coaching staff put in place, would Baker want to stay for that ? Would the new staff prefer another QB ? Would the owners prefer to shed his salary and let him go? Regardless Baker got slimed and I don’t see a scenario where he would want to stay, UNLESS he made a purely business decision to stay for the money and would likely want an extension.
If Baker wants out some team will make a deal. I hope that team is the Rams but that depends on Stafford. Pittsburg is in need.
December 12th, 2025 at 8:54 pm
I dont believe this is Todds fault. Firing him does nothing but award lazy, unenthusiastic players what they want.