Patriots Looked Hungrier Than The Bucs
November 9th, 2025
Anyone walk out of The Licht House today or turn off the TV and think the Bucs were the hungrier, more physical and faster team on the field?
Joe sure didn’t get that vibe.
Over and over last week, Joe heard about Bucs players lauding how their team was flying around in practice, feeling the juice injection of a bye week. That didn’t show up enough today.
Absolutely the Bucs made strong individual plays on defense, but collectively they didn’t have it.
The Patriots averaged 17 yards a catch and 6 yards per carry. Joe hasn’t seen those kinds of numbers from a Bucs defense in a long play.
Cornerbacks were a step slow. Lavonte David isn’t the player he used to be. And Joe saw multiple loafs on defense, which Joe will detail later this week.
Joe’s not going to throw a bunch of shade on the Bucs offense — because Joe’s not sure the Bucs enough pass catchers had the skills to get open consistently against the Patriots strong pass defense. And that’s why Joe was chirping for the Bucs to trade for a receiver at Tuesday’s NFL deadline.
The Bucs are going to need to find their fire in Buffalo next Sunday — against an angry Bills team that just got rolled in Miami.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:26 pm
on some levels, they sleepwalked out of the bye
November 9th, 2025 at 4:26 pm
Jordyn Brooks was there…so glad we kept our picks!
November 9th, 2025 at 4:27 pm
Ya think?
Sleepy Todd strikes again.
At least he keep smiling through all of the defensive breakdowns
November 9th, 2025 at 4:28 pm
I feel that way every time I see Todd Bowels. Does he have ANY emotions besides 😑?
November 9th, 2025 at 4:28 pm
Out coached plain and simple. Great game though. I wasn’t impressed by Maye at all but he got the W on the road.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:28 pm
Does Todd know what is going on? Seriously, I think he has dementia.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:28 pm
Grizz sucks. Wtf with all the short passes? We are so predictable
November 9th, 2025 at 4:29 pm
This could get really bad for the Bucs. They’re playing with no passion and heart at all. Everyone is saying Baker is hurt, he sure isn’t playing like leader he was which is bad for the Bucs. OC is having a horrible time calling plays and not using guys. They need a big change here or they’re gonna lose more than just the next 2 games. It’s not looking good
November 9th, 2025 at 4:29 pm
Baker does not run anymore
November 9th, 2025 at 4:29 pm
Bad time to play the Patriots. They had some injuries too. But maybe they were better prepared. A handful of plays made the difference. The Bucs got those in other games. Not today.
Will be interesting to hear about the loading.
Yes, David is no longer elite. And he used to be able to cover for others Les talented. Now he cannot.
McCollum is just not good. Morrison looks confused.
But a lot of good plays and a lot of missed opportunities.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:29 pm
Grizzard is terrible.
We had a great chance to win and he can’t draw up plays to get 3 yards. Having Baker take a deep drop on 4th and 3 is DUMB. Need quick passes and creative plays.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:29 pm
After the next bye, don’t fly straight from the Atlantis pool bar to the Stadium, I suggest as a starter
November 9th, 2025 at 4:30 pm
Grizz was trash after his scripted opening drive and he abandoned the run again….
White and tucker ran well against their front but grizz didn’t stick to it
Grizz is in over his head
lack of offense cost us today
GO BUCS
November 9th, 2025 at 4:30 pm
Grizzard is not an NFL OC
He sucks
Playcalling was garbage
November 9th, 2025 at 4:31 pm
Baker looks confused every time he drops back. Why isn’t he scrambling anymore?
November 9th, 2025 at 4:31 pm
Defense bent, bent, bent, then broke. …several x today. Even with Nelson’s superior drop back and coverage skills.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:32 pm
White and tucker ran well…
Grizz didn’t stick to it
No offense after the opening drive
Grizz is a liability
GO BUCS
November 9th, 2025 at 4:32 pm
Grizz is terrible, horrible game plan by him. Also Zyon was getting picked on all game.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:32 pm
This is all on Jason Licht. No offense or defense addition. Losing streak incoming and early playoff exit. Pathetic that he did nothing. Every team that was contending added and they didn’t have major injuries. The Bucs are depleted with serious injuries and the GM does 0. Sad pathetic. This team is done
November 9th, 2025 at 4:32 pm
I hope the Glazers really give a lot of thought before they give Baker $50-60 mil/yr
November 9th, 2025 at 4:32 pm
And that last NE td when everyone knows it’s a run…
November 9th, 2025 at 4:33 pm
Bucs Dline other than Vea was nonexistent. Didn’t show up.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:33 pm
Dean is playing good
Morrison needs Zyons reps
GO BUCS
November 9th, 2025 at 4:34 pm
They came out lights out on the opening drive. So we cant say they sleepwalked out. The Patriots are a solid team and we got complacent on offense. There wasn’t much creativity most of the game. We ran better against them than most teams have all year.
We wasted a bunch of opportunity on offense today. I don’t see a lot of fire in Baker’s belly like earlier in the year, he looks tired. He still played ok but MVP Mayfield appears to be on vacation. We need him back.
Defense played well enough to win if our offense took care of business.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:34 pm
Bucs defense just can’t stand up to winning teams…
Much expected ending but hoped Bucs defense would produce a better showing… UGH!
November 9th, 2025 at 4:34 pm
The annual Todd Bowles Midseason slump is here. Not sure what the reason is, every midseason, the Bucs seem to loose games
November 9th, 2025 at 4:35 pm
Roberts had another great game IMO….
Nelson is who we thought he was unfortunately…
GO BUCS
November 9th, 2025 at 4:36 pm
The BUCS are COOKED if they keep on letting Josh Grizzard calling offensive plays…….he’s awful and in WAY over his head
November 9th, 2025 at 4:36 pm
Jakobi Myers was had for a 4th and 6th by el serpente. But nahhh, no way he could help with the inept 3rd down percentage right Jason Licht??
November 9th, 2025 at 4:37 pm
Grizz showed 2rb set 1 time!!!!
The play got 8yards and grizz never went back to it again
GO BUCS
November 9th, 2025 at 4:37 pm
Did Maye get sacked today?
November 9th, 2025 at 4:37 pm
Looks a lot like past years. Only difference is this slump came a little later in the season. This is the typical Bowles slump. They will lose the next 2 games. Barely win the division get into the playoffs. Get Evans back and win a home playoff game only to lose in the division round. Same show different year.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:37 pm
I blame this loss on the play not to lose Offensive Coordinator & Jason Licht for not picking up needed players.You’ve got 3rd & 3 with 2 minues left. You can’t try a run & if that is short then another short run. Mayfield is no longer a threat to run which doesn’t help. The consistant running that goes nowhere cause of that genius Todd Bowles. When is Todd Bowles going to be held responsible for his mediocre defense. Instead all I hear is Tony Romo trying to install fear in he opposition about that defensive genius Todd Bowles and what will he do next. As far as Licht he couldn’t have traded for a decent pass rusher, a receiver & another Guard. If I had coached this team today Tampa would have won. PS Goodwin because of his injuries has done nothing this season & when he comes back why should we expect anything different?
November 9th, 2025 at 4:37 pm
I hope Bowles retires
November 9th, 2025 at 4:37 pm
“Patriots Looked Hungrier Than The Bucs”
——
To be expected. Bowles never has his team prepared for big games. He’s been doing this for years. And years. And years. Been saying these things over and over and over. He’s just not a winning coach. Simple as that.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:38 pm
The field of play sucked, again! The defensive scheme stunk and the Bills will not loose two in a row. This story has been introduced to us before.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:38 pm
At this point, I fully expect us to be 6-5 in a couple weeks. And then hopefully we can turn it around at that point.
Prove me wrong, Bucs.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:38 pm
Wow! So disappointing…Defense gives us big play after big play. Baker didn’t run at all (again) and could have picked up some yards / first downs on the ground. He also locked on to Egbuka and tried to force him the ball. Injuries are quickly derailing this season
November 9th, 2025 at 4:39 pm
So was Bowles big eureka moment to start and allow the big play to keep em from nickel and diming us?
November 9th, 2025 at 4:39 pm
Patriots looked far hungrier and better coached.
Starting to get concerned about Wirfs. Looks human.
Feeney is not playable.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:39 pm
*gives UP big play after big play
November 9th, 2025 at 4:40 pm
6-5 looks very likely.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:40 pm
This pass rush is absolutely awful. You can’t find a way to put pressure on one of the most sucked quarterbacks in the league. Glad you guys got well rested. Absolutely embarrassing you gave up 3 pays off 50 plus yards, too guys that are pedestrian at absolute best. I hope this stings a little and wakes you up. Licht your offense needs a playmaker and you watched just cherishing your draft picks. If this game doesn’t flip a switch the Bucs are in trouble. Forget the last six games because the way you just got rolled by well coaches average team we might be 500 through the last six. Ugh disgusting performance.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:41 pm
Morrison sucks btw. At least at this point in his career he does
November 9th, 2025 at 4:41 pm
It was a solid team effort at losing- everyone helped:
– Some AWFUL 3rd down play calls all game long.
– poor blocking by o-line
– couple bad throws / decisions by Bakwr
– defense giving up huge, record-breaking plays
Zyon did not deserve that fat of a contract either IMO. One decent year…
November 9th, 2025 at 4:43 pm
This is the start of a 3 game losing streak….we all saw it coming….the offense is so undermanned….the defense needed to step up today and the got gashed for one giant play after another. Lucky for us we are in a crappy division Saints beat the Panthers to help us and the Falcons lost…but nx two weeks Panthers could gain on us. No help is coming ….Chris Godwin looks to be done for a while ..no Mike Evens…no Bucky…this offense is a shell of itself.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:44 pm
How many 3rd and more than 10 did Maye convert today, Joe? We can’t stop a good passing team- -we all know that. How many pressures (we like that- -TB) did they have on Maye and he completed the pass? How many sacks (we don’t need those–TB) did they have on critical downs?
We are NOT going to anything like the SB this year.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:44 pm
I’m soooo pissed, this is where we slide
November 9th, 2025 at 4:45 pm
Actually I thought the Pats looked very well nourished, maybe not as nourished as Vita, but I doubt they were hungry at any point in the game.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:46 pm
A month ago everyone was worried about Grizz getting hired somewhere else. Now you want him fired. Sheesh!
Coen was never staying here. He wanted to, and got paid, by the Jags owner.
And the Fire Boles crap immediately starts up Wow…
We only lost by 5 points to a really good team. And missing all but one of our starting receivers.
I’m really happy about Tez coming on with two touchdowns. Got to get him more involved.
What killed us was Mike getting injured. If he had been OK this result probably would have been different.
But the Dixie Chicks and the Stinking Panthers lost. Just have to win the division and get people back by the end of the year.
November 9th, 2025 at 4:47 pm
I’ll watch baker on the third and three have Richard open in the flat for easy catch for first down the nearest man was 10 yards away and baker chose to force the ball to Otton his decision making is becoming questionable he no longer uses his legs at that point in the game with two minutes left you get the first down and give yourself four more downs
November 9th, 2025 at 4:56 pm
6-5, here we come!
November 9th, 2025 at 5:01 pm
Pats had done their homework and scouted us well. Their defense was ready and their O line blocked Superior. Teams have broken down tape on us very good. Our D did not rise to the occasion in the 4th when we needed them. Get ready for Buffalo in Buffalo. They lost today and will be ready and pissed. Good Luck….
November 9th, 2025 at 5:01 pm
the usual bowels coaching under performance..wish we had jmac healthy , but hey good thing we got bridgwater instead of a impact player for 2nd half of season..
November 9th, 2025 at 5:05 pm
vrable took mr no emotion , no clue bowels to the woodshed..next week the bills gonna spank him..fans deserve better
November 9th, 2025 at 5:06 pm
Josh grizzard sucks. Play and simple. He does not understand offensive rhythm and is awful on any short yardage play
Baker is not playing well. Im going to say it. He needs to stop holding the fing ball too long and get the ball out on time. Thats what Coen did last year. We aren’t doing it.
Defensively zyon is a deep liability. U can not fing give up those plays. Play the gd ball bro. Im tired of u staring and not using your hands at all. This team better wake up or we will lose another two in a row.
November 9th, 2025 at 5:06 pm
Todd’s record out of a bye is 1-3.
November 9th, 2025 at 5:09 pm
You can’t win in today’s NFL without pass rushers. Our pass rush from our front is atrocious.
November 9th, 2025 at 5:23 pm
The guy in the Pic is trash. As always the Bucs pay these bums and right after they crap the bed. Jason licht should trade picks. Not like many pan out.
November 9th, 2025 at 5:27 pm
It does not help that there were more Patriots fans in the stands than Buc’s fans in a “home game”. People who live in the Tampa Bay area should be ashamed of the poor support this team gets.
November 9th, 2025 at 5:34 pm
I said much the same thing as Nate in the ingame thread. Some of Grizzard and Baker decisions stymied the offense at times. Kind of miss Arians who was never shy about pointing out that Evans was open. His input would probably help both Grizzard and Baker at this point , cause we have some missing pieces on offense
and we have to adjust and get the ball to open targets , instead of forcing it to doubled covered players.
November 9th, 2025 at 5:34 pm
I hope those draft picks you didn’t trade are worth the next 3 or 4 losses you are about to experience. Licht is overrated.
November 9th, 2025 at 6:03 pm
COACHING
November 9th, 2025 at 6:07 pm
They didn’t sleepwalk. The first series was great, guys looked dialed in and then I think they thought well we came out fast and thought they could coast. Newsflash fellas.
We were running the ball decently well. If Tez and Shepard are too small to get it done consistently then get some bigger physical bodies out there in Miller and Culp. Baker didn’t go to Otton nearly enough early. Otton could have been 12 for 120 if Baker wasn’t tunnel vision on Egbuka after that first drive.
Just not smart football for the most part.
November 9th, 2025 at 6:18 pm
Toilet bowl returns.