Dumb Penalties At Bad Times A Reflection On Coaching

December 4th, 2023

Tolerates mistakes.

If a team plays dumb and makes dumb mistakes week after week, that’s because they haven’t been taught to play smart football.

Or the message isn’t sinking in.

There is no reason the Bucs make idiotic mistakes that would get a high school player benched. Carlton Davis got flagged — after he made a nice play — for getting into a hassle yesterday. Those are the kinds of plays that often add up to losses.

You can’t blame Davis for being a young and/or inexperienced. He’s a Super Bowl veteran. You have to be smarter than that.

Aaron Stinnie gets flagged for a false start with the Bucs having the ball in a key moment. It is absolutely asinine to make a false start penalty at this time, forget any time. He did the same last week at Indianapolis that may have cost the Bucs a touchdown in a one-score loss.

Dumb things like that are a big reason the Bucs are 5-7.

So what are the repercussions? “That’s alright Aaron, you’ll do better next time!” Baloney. Maybe if guys start getting benched, maybe for just a possession, the point might sink in they must be smarter when they are on the field.

This Bucs team is sad and it is almost insulting to the league in general that they are still only a game out of first place with just five wins.

Playing dumb football is tough to overcome. Playing dumb and boring football is a good way to chase away fans and lose jobs.

44 Responses to “Dumb Penalties At Bad Times A Reflection On Coaching”

  1. Jeff Says:

    Spot on. Where did the JBF podcasts go? Everyone ok?

  2. ModHairKen Says:

    Don’t forget Tyron’s face mask.

  3. TampaBayBucsFanSince1976 Says:

    Clean up the penalties and maybe Bucs win a few more.

  4. Duane in Sanford Says:

    Its definitely coaching. Accountability is a big part of it. I still think his scheme is overcomplicated. I think his defensive guys lose focus because he is constantly asking them to start the play out of position, read what the offense is doing, and adjust in time to make the play. It seems common for a report of a defensive meeting and decision to scale back the play book so they can play faster. He has always been too cute for his own good, and I look forward to hearing what he has to say when he moves on.

  5. Craig Says:

    Is there really someone coaching this team? Could’ve fooled me.

  6. Popcorn Mike Says:

    I’ve been speaking about those penalties all season. So many big plays call back because of dump penalties. A lot of them in red zone or with the game on the line. Mayfield could also improve as for as bad throws and over or under thrown receivers

  7. Mike Johnson Says:

    Next week’s loss to Arlanta will move Bowles travelling bags closer to the front door.

  8. CChead Says:

    If Carolina would have stuck to the run, especially on 3rd and 4th and short, Bucs lose yesterday. These pages would be blowing up with Todd needs to go.
    Bucs don’t win that game without help from the Panthers play calling.

  9. DungyDance Says:

    1. Sloppy football.
    2. Same mistakes week after week.
    3. Using players the wrong way / wasting individual strengths
    4. Ineffective offensive strategy (and lately, defensive strategy as well)
    5. Poor game clock management
    6. Poor mntal peparedness / playing down to opponent strength

    ….Am I missing anything?

    Others have advocated for some way to have Bowles return to DC if there were a way for that to not be awkward. Count me in on advocating for that as well.

    But as for HC, sorry. Todd is a decent human being, but business is business. As a HC, he’s just not getting the job done.

  10. JD12 Says:

    Amazes me that this guy has kept his job for so long. Totally undisciplined on both sides of the ball and they just continue to make the same mistakes week after week. The Timeout calling by Bowles drives me nuts. You swear the guy doesn’t even know what a timeout is. Thanks for the mediocrity Bowles…..you won’t be missed

  11. Upstate NY BUC Says:

    Is it possible to have an Embarrassing victory?? I think Mayfield is having personal issues with coaching,certain players and maybe family… he seems like he’s not into it!!! Go Bucs.

  12. John Sinclear Says:

    These guys are highly paid professionals. Some of them make more in an hour than some of us make in an entire year. They have been playing football for more than 20 years. They know the basics. Instead of blaming the coaches, blame the offenders. Bench them without pay for a game, fine them, whatever, but it is the offending player who should take the heat. You can’t coach out stupid!

  13. First Name Greatest Says:

    Pre snap penalties are on coaching, dumb penalties are on coaching, gameplans are on coaching, adjustments are on coaching

    Bowles fails on every level of being a headcoach

    Arians duped the owners and GM to prop up his friend. Bucs front office has gotta do better this offseason

  14. Popcorn Mike Says:

    The Bucs offense has looked a lot better the last few games, although yesterday’s game was against the 1-10 Panthers. Still too many penalties at the wrong time but penalties have been cut down. However, the defense is slipping now Can Bowles fix the defense and keep the offense improving enough to make the playoffs and maybe win 1 playoff game? I think that’s what it’s gonna take to keep his job

  15. Texasbucsfan Says:

    It appears that there is not any consequences for dumb mistakes that are hurting the team. Bill Parcells would get into a player’s face when they came off the field.
    This will not happen with the present coaches. Too much of a woke generation playing the game today.

  16. Blue Diamond Says:

    Book started at 5 /12, Then went to 4 1/2, the 3 1/2. Bucs won by 3, so the bookies lose too. I bet they are happy with Bowles.

  17. realistic-optimistic Says:

    It was the same thing last season. Week after week of boneheaded mistakes. Poorly coached is a kind description.

  18. SB~LV Says:


  19. Conner50 Says:

    Can’t wait till Bowles and Canales are fired and we get an offensive minded coach.

  20. Joshua porter Says:

    Accountability left when they picked brady over BA. Now it’s just stupid leading the stupid…. go bucs . bring back the pods ..

  21. BucsFan2520 Says:

    My guess is there’s no culture of accountability. Players like devin white who play rogue end up dividing locker rooms and are a poor example for incoming players. I suspect he’s got a few followers. Doesn’t help the coaches get a message across when a key player does what he wants on and off the field.

  22. HC Grover Says:

    Yesterdays disgusting game was a stem backwards. Aside from Evans nothing good about it. If they play like that v Atlanta and the Packers they will get clobbered.

  23. BigPoppaBuc Says:

    The Jets released Adrian Amos…. Could be a nice pickup for us.

  24. Voice of Truth Says:

    I am almost out of ways to describe how pitiful this coaching staff is as a whole

    Here is the joke of the day, we “employ” a run game coordinator

    What does he do just eat sunflower seeds all day and collect a check? He has not coordinated anything in 2 years

  25. SB~LV Says:

    3 Blind Mice ownership

  26. JD12 Says:

    I just hope that the Bucs don’t bring in the Belichick family to replace Toilet Bowles. Empty the bank to sign Ben Johnson or Bieniemy. Resign Evans, draft an O-Lineman or Bowers in the first round, and figure out your direction at Quarterback. It is easier said then done but this NFC South is pathetic and the Bucs really don’t have an excuse to be anything short of first place for the next 5-years. A half way decent coach doesn’t have us all talking how this week is a must-win game to keep the season alive because we would’ve already had control of first place. Lets finish the season strong and right the ship in the offseason.

  27. Since76 Says:

    This team has no accountability. Personal foul after making a good play. That’s alright go right back out there so maybe you can do it again. Coaching is bad on this team. Totally agree.

  28. Buckeyebuckchuck Says:

    There’s a lot of sloppy play league-wide..i think 17 games is too much, too many players getting beat down with a shorter off season to recover.

  29. Allbuccedup Says:

    5 wins thats what Bowles his second year with the Jets. Maybe that will be enough to keep him around another year. Maybe then he can use his talent to completely run this team in the ground and to the point of no return.

  30. SB~LV Says:

    Don’t forget Bruce Arians, the advisor, is still cashing checks

  31. gotbbucs Says:

    If they bring Baker and Bowles back next year they can definitely expect zero fans in the stadium and zero prime time games on TV. Besides Mike Evans, this is an unwatchable product.

  32. Let Em Bake Says:

    It must be difficult when 3 offensive veterans (Evans , Godwin, Mayfield) have to patiently wait for Canales to Get some experience. Mayfield’s M.O is vocal leader, but he’s new, on a one-year deal, and is probably reticent about assuming that role, especially if he see something that he knows is holding the team back.
    Pewter report touched on this recently. I watched Bakers highlight reel from Cleveland. Role out, naked boot all day long, with great success. The team doesn’t have a snarky, out-spoken leader ( ala Sapp) who is unafraid to call out problems. If Baker is re-signed, i expect a much more vocal Baker next year.

  33. gotbbucs Says:

    1st and 10 -White up the middle, 1 yard

    2nd and 9 – White up the middle, 1 yard

    3rd and 8 – Mayfield incomplete pass

    4th and 8 – Punt

    Just switch the order of the first three plays and you have the play-by-play for almost every offensive series yesterday.

  34. Jack Clark Says:

    “Playing dumb and boring football is a good way to chase away fans and lose jobs.”

    Baker Mayfield is holding this team back with his pedestrian two touchdowns and one turnover a game performance. He’s not going to get any better and we need a quarterback who can throw at least 3 or 4 touchdowns to beat good teams. Baker Mayfield may be just good enough for us to beat bad teams that our defense can stop from scoring more than 20 points like the Falcons, Saints, and Panthers but he can’t carry us through the playoffs and he’s not the long term solution fans are looking for in a quarterback.

  35. matthew a veal Says:

    i had thought the last few games would give the bucs a chance to move forward as draft poistioning, losing records, etc. were in our favor.

    after yesterday, every team we play going forward showed improvement. we didn’t.

    im nervous its near the end for bowles

  36. Lakeland Steve Says:

    It’s obvious that Bowles doesn’t hold his players accountable for their bonehead penalties that have stopped promising drives or allowed the other team to get a first down via penalty when we had them stopped on fourth down. It’s sickening

  37. Babygrace Says:

    Does anyone understand that this team had to eat 75,000,000 Million in dead money? That’s 5,6, maybe 7 really good players we could have gotten or more depending on how you break it up. I don’t know if Bowles or the coaching staff is good or bad, but do know for CERTAIN we don’t have the players. We could have Shanahan coaching and not win many games. I wish we would tear it down and be done White and Evans, (yes he is a really great player)but by the time we have gotten the roster fixed he will be old and will not be the same player. I’m sure this one will create and uproar! I would also trade Godwin if possible. Cut Shak and save a little and then save a lot the next year. Cut Davis and if I could i would trade Dean. These moves would give us over 100 million in cap space. I am sure they wont do this, but I would.
    I have been in business for many years and i have learned the hard way that the first thing you have to do is objectively and unemotionally assess your goals for long team success. I believe this is the way to fix it.

  38. Darin Says:

    At least the Bucs are consistent…ly not covering the point spread! Thanks for the consolation prize bowels.

  39. Bobby M. Says:

    Reality for Bowles is the arrow is pointing down….even if we win the division and sneak in the playoffs, I don’t see us advancing which is what I believe is what it will take to save his job. Showing up and losing in the first rd in a division that is weaker than it was last year isn’t progress. All the capital we’ve invested in the defense and multiple players are declining in their effectiveness….that’s coaching.

  40. Bucsfanman Says:

    This may be the lone dissenting opinion but, coaches coach and players play. It’s as much on the players as it is coaching, maybe even more so, IMO.

  41. HC Grover Says:

    The only good thing about that so called win is that the paying fans in the stands had fun. Watching on TV was just depressing.

  42. WyomingJoe Says:

    Joe, it’s “almost insulting” to the league that the Bucs have 5 wins? Are you kidding me? This article is insulting and you should offer an apology to the fans for that remark! A win is a win. Ugly or not…

  43. WyomingJoe Says:

    Let ‘Em Bake: Excellent point with that comment on Baker doing all the rollouts with Cleveland. He throws great on the run. I’ve noticed that almost every time we try it, he’s constantly under pressure. Somebody’s missing a block…

  44. Idroolpewter&red Says:

    Fine players who commit pre-snap penalties. When it’s affecting players’ pockets, the dumbass penalties will end.