Sad Pass Rush (But What’s New?)

November 6th, 2023

Bucs OLB Joe Tryon-Shoyinka.

Is it time for YaYa Diaby to start some games? It’s just about time for the Joe Tryon-Shoyinka experiment to close.

Yesterday, the Bucs got three sacks. It clearly wasn’t enough.

Devin White, Shaq Barrett and Calijah Kancey each sacked Houston quarterback C.J. Stroud once. JTS? He had an assist yesterday. Uno. An assist. That was it! Goose eggs in every other category from the NFL’s official gamebook.

Stroud dropped back 42 times yesterday. The Bucs had three sacks and six quarterback hits out of 42 dropbacks. So 21 percent of the time Stroud felt the touch of another man. #Sad.

Imagine if this were Trevor Lawrence, who the Bucs host on Christmas Eve. Yikes.

Joe is convinced that after yesterday’s embarrassing debacle the Glazer family had a conversation about the future of the Bucs and whether Bucs coach Todd Bowles is the man to lead them in 2024 and beyond. How could they not after what they witnessed in Houston?

And part of that conversation, Joe assumes, would have been a frank discussion of why so many of their investments into the defensive front-seven to get after the quarterback have not been developed.

Let’s take a quick gander:

JTS: first-round pick.
Logan Hall: second-round pick.
Devin White: first-round pick.

At least with Kancey he appears to be coming along nicely. Obviously, Vita Vea is a beast.

Has JTS, Hall or White improved in recent years? JTS is pretty much been stagnant. He really isn’t any better than he was as a rookie. White has regressed big time. Granted, Hall has improved a little, but do offenses fear him?

This nasty fact Team Glazer isn’t getting much bang for the buck now on their pricey defensive front-seven investments is also on Bowles’ watch.

72 Responses to “Sad Pass Rush (But What’s New?)”

  1. LOL Says:

    This team is not fun to watch. Do not feel a need to even turn on the tv on Sundays. Thanks Todd Bowles for liberating my Sundays for the foreseeable future.

    I was procrastinating on a few projects in the yard, but dove headfirst into them this weekend. I am sure I didn’t miss a good football game…..

  2. Buccos Says:

    Still the games are exciting and entertaining. This team hasn’t quit yet. It’s all you can ask when you are shedding Tom Brady’s salary cap hit. Hopefully we are losing Jensen hit too.

  3. Blue Ridge Buc Says:

    JTS is simply not good — but his contract dictates that he’s on the team in 2024. Shift him to full-time ST and start Diaby the rest of the way.

    There is no point in wasting player development opportunities. LET THE YOUNG GUYS PLAY!

  4. Beej Says:

    I think Todd’s biggest failing is sticking by players he has put in to starting positions when they should be sitting on the bench

  5. optimisticbucsfan Says:

    Another Licht BUST.

    Can we PLEASE cut Loser Licht this year as well?

    Joes, stop protecting that loser.

  6. Doctor_berto Says:

    When you have a top 5 draft pick you take a premium position, not an off ball linebacker! Josh Allen was the pick and it’s biting the Bucs now.

  7. Doctor_berto Says:

    Defensive end Josh Allen

  8. fishhawkbuc Says:

    Bowles is a trainwreck. He elected to take a timeout instead of running 10 seconds off of the clock….this after Mike Evans recovered the fumble at the 7 yard line. Houston scored with 6 seconds left… the math.

  9. Hammerhead Says:

    I’m sorry but a lot of the implosion the Bucs are experiencing can be blamed on Arians. He forced the Glazers to hire Bowles to succeed him along with keeping Leftwich. He then took a big fat consultant fee, hit the links, never to be heard from again.

  10. Daniel Z Says:

    I still think Brady forced Arians out. The timing was weird, the official press releases at the time felt off, and it didn’t make any sense why they kept him on the payroll.

  11. Paratrooper Buc Says:

    When our offense finally goes above 27 pts and gets a respectable 37pts the defense craps the bed. After a season of defense is carrying the team they got to hell in a hand basket. JTS is a joke. He is either a clean jersey from doing nothing or he has a dirty jersey because offensive lineman have buried him in the ground. He hasn’t gotten stronger or faster or smarter. Neal is a joke. Offenses know where our zone creases are and hitting them easily. This defense collapse was just like the rams playoff game and inexcusable. I notice the “play Trask” people are quiet which is good because mayfield isn’t the issue (not saying he is perfect).

  12. Mike Johnson Says:

    Truth be told, If you’s a real Buc fan, that loss yesterday hurt. It stung. I don’t think this team recovers. No pass rush and a helpless Defense from a coach who is suppose to be a defensive guru. Pack your bags Bowles. You too Jason.

  13. Lord Cornelius Says:

    The defense was terrible.

    JTS is a bust. Still love Licht. Go look at that draft and many picks before / after him were busts. He was 32nd not top 15

  14. Easy The Great Says:

    Hey at least he got a goal line INT on the two point conversion….followed by an unsportsmanlike penalty

  15. BrianBucs Says:

    This is on Jason Licht who for some odd reason isn’t mentioned in Joe’s post.
    Licht has made more poor picks in his drafts than he has good ones.
    Same with free agency.
    Even though Bowles is an incompetent head coach, as others were under Licht’s GM tenure, you can’t blame them for having to work with some very untalented players handed to them by Licht.
    Luckily Arians got to be his own GM and Licht was just his Yes man.
    But then again Arians is responsible for Bucs having Bowles as head coach, so………………

  16. LVMYBUCS Says:

    He to slow and I have watched him on many occasion stop rushing the QB because he thought the ball was gone when in fact it wasnt.

  17. Dreday Says:

    We’re just being out coached and out schemed every week. We simply don’t have the personnel to be aggressive like bowels wants. You can’t pound the ball and you can’t get to the passer by blitzing. Too many players making too much money and no results. It’s time for a change.

  18. Posey99 Says:

    JTS doesn’t have the strength needed to play in the NFL. You can be fast but you need to have strength too. It’s not there for him.

  19. Buc4evr Says:

    JTS needs to be immediately benched. The guy is horrible, maybe on plays as an OLB in coverage but not a DE type rusher expected to get sacks and hold the edge. The guy was being owned by one OT the entire game. He can’t break free of one Blocker. Just pathetic. Should have been a six or seventh round pick…. Why did Jason pick a guy who sat out a year and had very little experience in college. Total bust that never grew into the starting position that was handed to him on a silver platter. Playing JTS is like playing with 10 guys on defense.

  20. Slacker Says:

    Glad they locked up Dean and Davis, what a total waste of big money. Neal left his talent in Seattle. Devin White is garbage. Front line pressure is non existent and needs a huge cleansing. Bowles can’t be gone soon enough and Canales isn’t an improvement from Leftwich. Blow up the ship

  21. TampaBayBucsFanSince1976 Says:

    Not odd that Licht is not mentioned as the Joes’ seem to be very wary and cautious to a fault of criticizing Jason Licht at all. I suspect they have been told not to beat up the golden goose that gives them access to all things Buccaneer. The Glazers however are another story and I suspect that they have the magnifying glass under the bright sun ready to burn right through Lichts cranium about his horrid draft selection record.

  22. gotbbucs Says:

    I would argue that this team has talent that just isn’t being coached properly and put in a position to succeed.

    Licht drafted press man corners that are being asked to play off ball zone. He drafted edge rushers that are being dropped into coverage.

    For whatever reason, there always seems to be a major disconnect between the type of players the front office is bringing in and the coaching philosophy on the field.

  23. It's Corn Says:

    Bowles is a lousy head coach, but he’s not even a good defensive coordinator. It’s smoke and mirrors, relying on the blitz to get cheap sacks.

    So yeah he looks good against bad teams, or ones with injured quarterbacks like Brees and Mahomes in the Super Bowl year, or Derek Carr earlier this year.

    Stroud picked apart his blitzes yesterday, so Bowles couldn’t rely on that to look good. All the other blemishes of his defense are then glaring.

    Including that his defensive line on its own can’t rush the passer.

  24. Damian Says:

    Why is no one in the media talking about Licht? He drafted all these guys. They’re “athletic”, (soft), not physical at all, and they’re not productive. Also doesn’t know how to draft a QB, RB, TE, DE or starting CB, or hire a HC, except for Arians. He won a SB because the greatest QB ever happened to be a free agent and had to trade for arguably one of the greatest TEs ever. This guy isn’t a good GM!

  25. Nicholas Carlson Says:

    Nothing is more painful to watch than an opposing quarterback having all day to throw

  26. Boss Says:

    Jts started the season with promise

    as did the offense

    as did the defense

    now that all the rah rah, we hate brady, we’ll show you is done and said what do we have.


    A horrible coach that rubs off on the team and only makes them worse. Our players are fine. It’s the coaching,,,but maybe even more the lack of passion and going for the jugular from coaching staff.

  27. Rickym Says:

    Remember when Dare Ogunbowale was a fan favorite fot the Bucs? Special teams standout and has a 3.3 yard career rushing average. Ahhh the good old days😊

  28. TonySoprano Says:

    Yeah I’m now convinced the Joes are not allowed to say a single bad word about Licht without ramifications. And that makes my level of respect for Licht drop even further. He wants to come across as a “meathead/just-one-of-the-guys” but I suspect he’s just an arrogant, pompous blowhard with a huge ego. His drafts have been trash and his record without Brady is horrid.

  29. RingTheRicky Says:

    Didnt Joe just write last week that there was no reason to worries about the defense’s inability to stop teams on 3rd down, inability to stop teams from long drives?

  30. Joe Says:

    Why is no one in the media talking about Licht? He drafted all these guys

    You mean the core of a team that won a Super Bowl less than three years ago? Dude ought to get an extension.

  31. Beej Says:

    Is there anything that JTS does better than Nelson?

  32. TampaBayBucsFanSince1976 Says:

    Honeymoon from Super Bowl is long over-STOP

  33. eric Says:

    heres a revelation how about the fact that Devin, Hall, and JTS may not be idea fits for a 3/4 defense and the coach is too struuborn to realize it! You taking guys who were successful in 4/3 and trying to make them fit in your 3/4!

  34. pewter941 Says:

    With the number 8 pick, the Buccaneers select Verse or Latu?

  35. The Beer Whisperer Says:

    The good news: Bucs offense scored 37 points.
    The bad news: Bucs defense gave up 39 points.

  36. Damian Says:

    Joe Says:
    November 6th, 2023 at 10:05 am
    Why is no one in the media talking about Licht? He drafted all these guys

    You mean the core of a team that won a Super Bowl less than three years ago? Dude ought to get an extension.

    HELL NO! Barring a miracle, he will never win another one. He’ll be lucky to make the playoffs.

  37. bucsfaninOregon Says:

    Well, you guys seem to finally be reacting to what I’ve been screaming about since the third game. JTS is simply worthless as a DL. He has been invisible until the end of the play when he WALKS into the picture. It’s totally maddening.

    He looks like a TE not a DL. I don’t know if he played offense early in career, but he doesn’t belong on the field in any defensive position.

    But, there he is!

  38. Kgh4life Says:

    JTS doesn’t play with any power whatsoever. He’s trying to out- athlete guys. It simply doesn’t work. He needs speed to power and pass rush moves to be effective. We have seen enough, it’s who he is.

  39. Ed Says:

    I have to agree with pointing fingers at Licht, drafting Devin White at #5 is way too high for an interior linebacker with speed but no strength. During most of the running plays, he clearly is being blasted by blockers.

    JTS is bust plain and simple. He is not an edge rusher and he isn’t a tackler. He is just a nobody who is starting in the NFL with no pedigree. A loafer, a softie, whatever, he was a #1 draft pick.

    Logan Hall, has shown very little and is hurt most of the time. He was picked in the top 35.

    Other than Winfield, who has Licht drafted in the past several years that comes to play and makes game changing plays.

    I don’t trust Licht with draft picks. Wirfs is great but that is 1 great player and 3 duds.

  40. TheMIGHTYVH Says:

    JTS stinks. Our pass rush stinks. There were times yesterday when Stroud literally had 5,6, 7 seconds to throw down field. On top of that we have the two most OVERATED CBs in the NFL in Davis and Dean and Zyon looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane… he stinks! In fact we have tooooooo many Janes on this team. Deva White is another. I said it a 1,000 times last week – we should have been sellers last week…. maybe there was actually no takers for this OVERRATED bunch of losers.

  41. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Haters of Jason Licht will never admit he is a good GM…which he is. No GM hit’s 100% of the time, and all of them have perceived weak areas.

    The current state of the Bucs reminds me of just before Arians came. It feels like they are only a few steps away…which is surprising considering they were not expected to be good this year at all.

    I am a generational fan of the Bucs. I will never quit on them…and as such, I tend to view them in a more long-term view. There was a time when I was 100% against tanking…but that was before we got to see what a quality QB could do with this team.

    Now I am convinced we must find an elite passer, and we need one for at least 5-10 years in order to remain at the top. This means no veteran projects. yes, if we can land an establish elite veteran around age 30, that would work, but really what we need is a drafted QB who can earn a second contract.

    That may or may not mean drafting very high…I mean Brady was a 6th rounder, so it is possible to get them later…but in recent years, top picks are working out well in many cases.

    So? Tank this year. For one year. Focus on cleaning up cap space. Cut bait on expensive players who are too old to wait out the development of a rookie QB. Free up money. Get a top 3 pick. Or trade for the first pick. Whatever.

    Sign a quality offensive head coach. We only win championships with offensive head coaches to date. Get a quality DC. I don’t care what scheme the defense is, so long as it works.

    After getting the QB, get a quality RB (yes, I finally agree with you, Joe).

    As to the offensive line?
    We need a center. We need a great center. Ryan Jensen is done. His contract gives us an out and we need to take it, since he hasn’t been playing. Great player…when he is on the field.

    Cody needs muscle added and more development. I do think he has potential. How he responds to his rookie season in the off season should determine his future here.

    Hainsey is NOT the solution…and we knew that last off season. The Bucs thought Jensen would return and he didn’t. He’s a team guy, so he has shown up to help in the ways he can, and I admire that, but we need a quality center, and that is one of the hardest spots to fill with quality.

    So it could take a year or two, unless Licht can trade for one again or sigh a quality vet. This is how he got our last 2 great centers, so I trust him.

  42. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Can’t hang on to the Superbowl run forever if Licht continues to suck

    Licht without Arians is a historically terrible GM….Brady and Arians aren’t coming to save Lucht this time so Licht is basically back to being the GM he was from 2014-2019 which is an awful one.

  43. 1#bucsfan Says:

    Brainbucs simply not tru what you stated and as joe made a comment in the section here about someone saying how come the media isn’t going after JL. He put together a Super Bowl team and we still have those core players. Not saying he’s perfect but he’s hit more on his picks then he hasn’t. Other of his picks are stating on others teams for instant look at the chiefs. D.smith and Edwards both are starters on a SB team. Jordan whitehead starter on the jets who is turning out a good season. JL most likely has 3 hall of fame players on his team win Mike evans , wirfs and maybe Winfield. Also to name a few of his draft picks that played a key roll on winning us a Super Bowl which we won on the back of our defense. Dean Davis white whitehead Edwards bunting vea. JL is a better GM than most of the leagues GM and one of the best we had. JL picks the players it isn’t his job to develop them that’s on coaches. Stop hating on JL. More fans than not love him

  44. TampaBayBucsFanSince1976 Says:

    Wow Joe-Perfect opportunity for a Confidence Poll on Jason Licht-Let’s see where he really stands with the fans……………..

  45. BFFL5678 Says:

    Nelson plays the positon better then JTS. If he would have paid attention yesterday he would have been able to jump on the ball after Barrett knocked it lose. If he is in position to make a tackle he misses 90 percent of the time.

    White just gives up on plays. Yesterday on the screen pass on 3rd and 17 he stop because he seen someone coming to block him. If he keeps going there a chance he makes the tackle and it’s 4th down.

  46. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Usually in football circles it’s “what have you done for me lately”? And in Jason Lichts case it’s let Mike Edwards walk for Ryan Neal, continue to put JTS on the field, inexplicably not sign or trade for a running back while Mr 1.8 YPC Keyshaun Vaughn keeps getting touches and not to mention give massive contracs to 2 bad corners.

    Anyone who doesn’t see that Licht (yet again) has been terrible this year is blinded by the superbowl run.

  47. CHRISTOS Says:

    Once again about Licht. He should get part of the blame as well.
    I know the popular phrase He build a SB winning team but i ll say again
    Dont underestimate the Brady Effect.
    Look at New England. You think the key to success was the Patriot way or Brady ?
    Licht recored without Brady is 37-67. That is the team that he built. You think if Brady didnt sigh with the Bucs we would be anywhere near the SB ?
    So dont give him a pass. He gets part of the blame.

  48. Bigbucfan90 Says:

    Let YaYa play!!

  49. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    As to roster…I love Mike Evans, and he has been a total team player. I would love for him to play his entire career in Tampa.

    Having him on the roster may be expensive, but has the benefit of luring offensive coaches to the team next year. So I believe we need to re-sign him.

    I think (?) Chris Godwin is due for a contract? He’s younger, and he’s good…but is he great? He’s certainly not playing at a Mike Evans level lately. So is he worth re-signing?

    That is a decision for Licht and company, but if we can keep him, I would like to. Having weapons for a rookie QB can make a huge difference in development.

    Otton is acceptable. He is not commanding big money, and he does produce in the passing game. He can learn to pass block, just like Mike Alstott had to learn years ago.

    R. White is quality backup material thus far, cast in a starting role. He isn’t commanding big money, so he is worth keeping on the roster, but we need a good starter.

    At least our special teams is fixed now.

    LVD is retiring. I think he could have a future in coaching if he wants to. That leaves us only with Devin White at the position. White is above average, but just barely. This is his first year stepping up as a leader, so maybe that will change. But…I believe this is his contract year? (not sure)

    If we land a quality DC, we need to have him evaluate the defensive roster. Obviously, we need to keep certain players, but others are aging out or duds.

    Shaq is aging out. I don’t think he will ever top 8 sacks again. He’s disruptive…but expensive.

    We as fans need to recognize that the entire team cannot be rebuilt in a year. We also need to understand we can’t fix all of the trouble areas in one year. We need to address QB and OL first…as the QB will take longer to develop. Then we need to address DL and secondary.

  50. TheMIGHTYVH Says:

    Christos – you are spot on. And quite honestly, he should take MOST of blame… especially when it comes to the construction of OL group and the things he DID NOT DO in off-season – like properly address OG and Center… it is malpractice. Big contracts to CD and Dean, not being sellers last week at trade deadline, etc. – list goes on and on.

  51. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    bbucs3 Says “Licht without Arians is a historically terrible GM”

    Simply not true, considering Licht built the team that Arians went to the superbowl with BEFORE Arians arrived. History proves your statement wrong.

  52. PSL Bob Says:

    The experiment has been over for some time. JTS sucks as an edge rusher. Ship him off to another team and maybe they can coach him up. Kind of like expecting White to all of a sudden become an elite running back. Just not going to happen.

  53. batman Says:

    Licht just needs to know what he’s great at drafting (OL, interior DL, DB, WR) and what he’s not (RB, Edge, K) and just accept it. Use draft capital on what you’re elite at, and get the other pieces predominantly through free agency. No shame there. I mean, Shaq was a *great* FA signing.

  54. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Tbbucs3 Says:
    “…continue to put JTS on the field…Mr 1.8 YPC Keyshaun Vaughn keeps getting touches”

    Coach decisions.

  55. NcKe Says:

    We can’t get any pressure from the edge. I think Big V and Kancey would have more sacks if only OLBs could force the QB to step up in the pocket. SMH

  56. Tbbucs3 Says:


    So many holes in this roster and your 1st priority is to address the quarterback position?

    How about let’s focus on getting a defense and a real running back and Mayfield can win with that.

  57. Buc1987 Says:

    This guy gets thrown around like a rag doll on nearly every play.

  58. Tbbucs3 Says:

    The Bucs need to follow the blueprint of the 49ers and build a strong team around a steady hand quarterback.

    Brock Purdy would not win either if he was on this Bucs team and so far midway through the season, if I had to pick a team MVP it would be Baker Mayfield.

    If Mayfield continues to play this way, then like it or not, he’s gonna be your starting quarterback in 2024 and the Bucs will try and build around him.

  59. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    TheMIGHTYVH Says:
    “…he should take MOST of blame… especially when it comes to the construction of OL group and the things he DID NOT DO in off-season – like properly address OG and Center… it is malpractice.”

    Okay, let’s address the offensive line:

    LT Tristan Wirfs GREAT
    LG Matt Feiler GOOD ENOUGH
    C Robert Hainsey HORRIBLE
    RT Luke Goedeke BELOW AVERAGE

    I think that is a fair assessment?

    We also need to take into consideration:

    1) Ryan Jensen was supposed to be the starting center. So some may say Licht should have planned for him not playing? One thing to say to that: CAP ISSUES.

    What exactly could he do in a year when we are around half a million under the cap? He had no choice but to go with Hainsey for this year.

    2) Cody Mauch is a good rookie guard, not great…yet. In the approaching off season, he needs to add strength and fix his weaknesses. He is a rookie. This is the first step in his development. Learnign from his rookie season is the second and most important step.

    Certainly his effort cannot be called into question. At this point, it is mostly his strength, which can be addressed.

    Fans always expect results out of the gate, and 90% of the time it doesn’t work that way. Heck…just look at Ryan Jensen as an example. He went years without starting as he developed and he became a great player. Patience is required.

    That said, it doesn’t mean competition should not happen. Bring in players who can compete with him for the spot this off season. Give him nothing. Make him earn it.

    3) Luke Goedeke is 2 years in…he did not learn from his rookie season (clearly). He apparently did not work on his strength or blocking skills.

    If this is the case, the solution there is competition. Make him earn a starting role to give him the drive to succeed. He should already have to drive, but as long as he is cheap, it is worth considering him as a backup at the very least. A new OC will be the best judge of that.


    In the end, we ALL knew this year would be bad. With the cap issues, it was mostly accepted that would be the case.

    Jason Licht is doing what he can to clear up those issues quickly. I believe he will get it done this coming off season…so that would mean he fixed it in just over a year.

    He’s made great picks, and he’s made bad picks. He’s also made picks that have been acceptable contributors even if they are not superstars. He started as a rookie GM, and he actually got better as time went on.

    I was hard on him in the beginning, but he has earned his spot now.

  60. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Tbbucs3 Says

    So many holes in this roster and your 1st priority is to address the quarterback position?

    How about let’s focus on getting a defense and a real running back and Mayfield can win with that.”

    Sure, if winning less than 40% of games is acceptable to you, we could do that.

    That’s what is coming.

    Developing a younger QB will take longer than any other position. If you wait to get started, the roster you fixed will age out on him and create more issues down the pike. Get the QB, fix the OL, and get a RB. Let them develop together. It’s common sense.

  61. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Mayfield is going to take us nowhere. At best, he can be a bridge QB…or we can turn Trask into one for cheaper.

    Yes, we may make the playoffs (which is looking less likely now that Carr is healthy), but he isn’t good enough to get us past the first game.

  62. Hodad Says:

    If we get a big name HC like the guy from Michigan Licht would become a glorified scout again. New coach will tell Licht what he’s looking for, and have final say with personel. This way Licht won’t be taking a LT from small school U trying to make him a RG, or center, when you can just draft a kid who’s played what you need at a high level for three years at a big time program. Tired of moving up in the draft for small school projects. Tired of paying top dollar to FAs who suck. Licht if he stays needs to be put on a leach.

  63. Aubpierce Says:

    Licht is the head of the snake. He must be fired immediately. He can’t draft running backs, defensive backs, edge rushers, and for the most part offensive linemen. They are to small to start in the NFL. It takes them two to three years before they gain enough weight and experience to be effective. Todd Bowles never was and never will be an effective head coach because he exhibits no passion. Little more then a bump on the log.

  64. Tbbucs3 Says:


    What makes you seem to think superstar franchise quarterbacks grow on trees? It’s easier said than done to say “let’s tank and draft the next Patrick Mahomes”

    Plus the NFL has proven in recent years that it doesn’t matter how good your quarterback is if you don’t build around him. The Bucs have a QB who’s playing really good football right now and you don’t just let that walk.

    The Falcons made a Superbowl with Matt Ryan, the Rams won with Matt Stafford and the Denver Broncos won with a completely washed Peyton Manning.

  65. Bucamania Says:

    We’ve seen enough of JTS and Logan Hall to know who they are. Time to move on.

  66. TheMIGHTYVH Says:

    Buccaneer Bonzai – I somewhat disagree with your current OL assessment of Bucs… I think we have a ring of honor guy in Wirfs and the rest are backups to future starters. Mayyyyyyybe Mauch will pan out. That’s a BIG maybe.

    And I get it. Marpet caught the Bucs completely off-guard with his retirement… Jensen has devastating knee injury on 2nd day of (’22) training camp. What I don’t like is Licht reactions and subsequent moves since… it’s GM malpractice not to properly address the OL, especially this past off-season. He should have prepared for worst case scenario – which was Jensen unable to play. Unless this was his inside job to assist in the tanking effort. He obviously knew he already had the head coach for it.

  67. BucU Says:

    Yes u all are correct. JTS is trash. The problem is we have about another 35-40 others on this roster that are trash. Add the absolute worst coaching staff in this league and you have the 2023 Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

  68. Bucsreality Says:

    The entire 2021 draft, aside from a decent center, looks like a complete waste of time. Two pro bowl centers were taken after this clown JTS. Of course Licht, like any opposing QB’s these days, gets a free pass.

  69. Tom in MadCity Says:

    There were two times I recall seeing JTS yesterday. One was on the interception of the two point conversion. After getting the INT, he appeared to slow down instead of trying to actually return the pick in the other direction for two points. And then he threw the ball at the person who tackled him for a 15-yard penalty.

    The other one was when George Fant got called for holding JTS. When they showed the replay, Fant did not hold at all. He simply punched the right shoulder of JTS and JTS went flying like a rag doll. I’m sure the official saw how JTS went flying and assumed it had to be a hold. Either Fant is an extraordinarily strong man, or JTS can hold his own. His history points to the latter.

  70. SlyPirate Says:

    Kancey will likely take over as the team’s sack leader next game. JTS and Shaq have twice the snaps.

  71. Mike Johnson Says:

    Joe Tryon better hope his dad Bowles stays because he is a..Dead Man Walking.

  72. DJB Says:

    Among other flaws, Shoyinka has poor awareness. On the strip of the QB by Shaq, Shoyinka wrestled the QB to the ground instead of diving for the ball and fighting to secure it.