“Terrible Decision By Baker Mayfield To Go To Tampa”

March 27th, 2023


A former superstar player for Todd Bowles who says he loves Todd Bowles and stays in touch with him believes Bucs quarterback Baker Mayfield screwed up when he signed with Tampa Bay this month.

The disclaimers were flying on the recent I Am Athlete podcast hosted by Brandon Marshall, the future Hall of Famer receiver who played for Bowles in Miami and with the Jets. Marshall wants the world to know how much he loves Bowles, he said repeatedly, but Marshall hates the Mayfeld signing.

He sees Mayfield as a QB who only can succeed in a complementary role with a powerful running game, and the Bucs don’t/won’t have it.

“I think this was a terrible decision by Baker Mayfield to go to Tampa,” Marshall said.

“Baker should have stayed in L.A. They wanted Baker,” Marshall pleaded. “They said Baker could potentially start this year. Why would you leave that? … You find a home, stay there. It’s ok. Be patient. Sit right there. … This is foolish.”

Joe disagrees with Marshall.

The Bucs with Bowles and new offensive coordinator Dave Canales are determined to emphasize the run and have a solid running game. Joe thinks it’s reasonable to think the Bucs could go from worst to 18th in that category. If so, then Mayfield should be very comfortable and effective if his big-3 receivers stay healthy.

As for staying with the Rams, their roster is weak, their draft capital is depleted and a highly-paid, fan-favorite quarterback is in place. Oh, and their running game also was poor and they play in a strong division. C’mon, Brandon!

78 Responses to ““Terrible Decision By Baker Mayfield To Go To Tampa””

  1. Goatfarmer Says:

    Brandon Marshall knows that Bowels is an overpromoted coordinator who is an awful head coach. His commentary is code for that.

  2. BA’s Red Pen Says:

    So now goatfondler is a code breaker.

  3. Buc4evr Says:

    Time will tell. I am not a fan of Mayfield, but now that he is a Buc maybe Canales can get the most out of him by installing a solid gameplan. One thing that is for sure, if the Bucs want a running game they need to do something about the OLine and the TEs in the blocking schemes.

  4. Mike Johnson Says:

    If the Bucs are gonna run more this year then they’d better shore up that O line. You need beef up front to move people and open holes. Baker figures he is getting his shot to be a starter, Lets see what he does with it.If he screws this up then he goes the way of a vet career backup somewhere..on a perpetual spin cycle from team to team the rest of his career.

  5. Rod Munch Says:

    “Baker should have stayed in L.A. They wanted Baker”


    Clearly the Rams are eager to move on from Stafford, they’re openly saying they want to trade him (not that anyone would trade for him at this point in his career). If Mayfield just stuck around he’d have a really good offensive head coach on a team that also has a lot of offensive talent when healthy.

    But for him to stay in LA, they needed to actually make him an offer, and everything I’ve seen says they were happy to let him walk. Which says a lot.

    It’s not a terrible signing by the Bucs because of the price, but from watching his highlights and lowlights from the last couple of years, I don’t know what the Bucs think they’re getting. He’s a guy that looks like a backup QB when he’s in the game – sure he can make a few good plays, but it’s mostly bad plays and batted balls.

    What the Bucs should be doing is getting on the phone with the Ravens and see if they can’t figure out a way to bring Lamar to Tampa. That’s how you win a SB, not by signing a washed QB who has literally never been any good and is on his 4th team in the last 12 months.

  6. bucnjim Says:

    I have no problem seeing what Mayfield can do. Some QB’s take longer than others to excel but time will tell. Absolutely not on Lamar Jackson. The Ravens built an entire team around Jackson including a dominant defense. The Bucs don’t have the offensive line or dominant D to make Jackson successful. Not to mention the cap space required to sign him would set us back more than a couple years.

  7. sasquatch Says:

    Rod Munch Says:
    March 27th, 2023 at 11:21 am

    What the Bucs should be doing is getting on the phone with the Ravens and see if they can’t figure out a way to bring Lamar to Tampa.

    I thought we were done hearing about this. It’s not happening. They are not paying big money to any QB this year. Especially one who wants a fully guaranteed cap-crushing contract. Jeezus, funking let it go.

  8. SOEbuc Says:

    Canalas will be running the offense and Bowles will be running the defense. People never say how bad OC was when Arians had an input. Not waiting for Baker, waiting to see Canalas.

  9. SlyPirate Says:

    The Bucs had one of the worst rushing attacks in the history of the NFL, so …
    What have they done in the offseason?

    Release 4Net
    Release Donovan Smith
    Trade Shaq Mason
    Hire Canales (Seattle’s run game is awesome)

    Licht LOVES OL. He played OL. He will be loading up on the biggest, strongest, meanest OL in this draft. Dudes that will blow up opposing DL in the run game.

    Not having a run game will not be the Bucs’ problem next season.

  10. Roc Says:

    Players Love Bowles because he is a Players Coach

    Which means it’s too hot to practice

    Let’s go bowling instead of working out

    Let’s go to London for a week prior to the game and hang out

    ANYONE REMEMBER this from Raheem PLAYERS loved him too

    Bucs fans might as well look at the 2024 draft now that’s the only thing to look forward too

  11. Duane Says:

    Goatfarmer Says:
    March 27th, 2023 at 11:06 am
    Brandon Marshall knows that Bowels is an overpromoted coordinator who is an awful head coach. His commentary is code for that.

    Your comment is preposterous and is code for “idiot commenter”. Like virtually all of your comments here.

  12. Rod Munch Says:

    sasquatch – Well I said the Bucs should be doing that, not that I actually think they will.

    But if you can get a young stud QB, and let’s say the price only ends up being like a 1st, 2nd and Chris Godwin, I’d do that in a second if you can get them locked up to something like a 6 or 7 year deal.

    That’s how you keep the momentum going, keep people buying season tickets, get prime time games and keep yourself in the playoff hunt.

    How you become the Bucs of the past, the most losing franchise in the history of professional sports, is to do things like sign failed QBs and think things will suddenly be different because of Todd Bowles.

    With that said, the Bucs are in a tight cap because of going all-in for Brady, so I understand that and I’m fine with tanking as you rebuild. But the Bucs aren’t really in rebuild mode, they’re in 6-11 mode, which is the worst. I’ll love to be wrong.

    However, a young stud QB being available almost never ever happens, and the Bucs should be, at the very very least, kicking the tires on him and seeing what the price is and how they can make it work. At the very least.

  13. Infomeplease Says:

    Sly pirate, I hope you’re right. If the o-line is as bad or worse than last season, things will be rather sad!!

  14. Rod Munch Says:

    SlyPirate Says:
    March 27th, 2023 at 11:32 am
    The Bucs had one of the worst rushing attacks in the history of the NFL, so …
    What have they done in the offseason?

    Release 4Net
    Release Donovan Smith
    Trade Shaq Mason
    Hire Canales (Seattle’s run game is awesome)


    Canales was the QB coach after getting demoted from the passing game coordinator role, also Seattle was 18th in rushing last year. BTW, the team that lead the NFL in rushing last year is the same team that just traded away the #1 overall pick, the Chicago Bears.

  15. HC Grover Says:

    People have Chinese back scratchers. Buc QB’s need Bowles head scratchers.

  16. Nicky666 Says:

    Fun fact – Brandon Marshall has the most yards for a receiver who never played in the postseason. GO BUCS 🙂

  17. Goatfarmer Says:

    Duane — tell me who else in the history of the NFL has ever presided over four consecutive losing seasons and survived for a fifth? Tell me when else has the leader of your team (that was Tom Brady in case you don’t remember) called out the team for poor effort on game days? Where does game day effort come from? Hint — not the ball washer.

    Marshall played for the Jets, he’s seen first hand what Bloweszo the head coich does when he runs the whole team. He ruins the whole team. Loves the dude. Like Raheehaw’s players loved him also. They just lost 10 in a row for him, and quit on him. Much like the Bucs did in the “home playoff” game against the Cowboys.

    Brady had never, ever had a losing season in his life. Until the Bloweszo came along.

    Results speak for themselves, but the attempt to defend the head coaching clown is admirable.

  18. Rod Munch Says:

    HC Grover Says:
    March 27th, 2023 at 11:58 am
    People have Chinese back scratchers.


    I literally had no idea until right now they’re called Chinese back scratchers. Thank you for that news, when they invade Taiwan I’ll make a big show about breaking my on YouTube in a show of support with the people, use it as a fundraiser to make myself millions – I mean to give to charity.

  19. optimisticbucsfan Says:

    Have a solid running game? LINK?

    We just had the worst running game in what? 50 years?

    Solid running game? Joe…show your work on this one…

  20. Rod Munch Says:

    Nicky666 Says:
    March 27th, 2023 at 12:00 pm
    Fun fact – Brandon Marshall has the most yards for a receiver who never played in the postseason.


    Wow, that is in fact a fun fact I’ve never heard before. Also looking at his stats, I always think of him having played for Denver for a long time, but he was only there for 4 years.

    I also think of him as being a Mike Evans type of receiver, but his career comparables don’t include Evans, but three other Bucs receivers, Keyshawn, Galloway and Vincent Jackson.

  21. Statistically Insignificant Reader Says:

    Mayfield was not coveted by the Bucs to be a savior. Light made it clear he was going to sign a (any) cheap veteran to compete with (push) Trask this year. If Trask is not the answer (nor Mayfield), then the Bucs will move on from both next year. Licht is playing inexpensive this year. Working on paying off the superbowl, resigning our own if warranted, save some money and balance the check book.
    Will be ready to enter next years QB sweepstakes in a much better position.
    Better days lie ahead.
    Yes I do hope the Bucs look great with whomever at QB, go undefeated and win the superbowl……but………… anyway, Go Bucs !!!!

  22. R.O. Says:

    Coaching in Football is the one sport where it really matters. Too say what have the Bucs done? They changed their Offensive Coaching and Philosophy. Now will it pay off? If you want to debate that point then fine. Let the season play out. I want to see the Offense look like the came in to the game prepared and in synch. I want the D to come out the same way. Too many times both side looked like they werent. Including going back to 2020 and 2021 not just last season.

  23. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I’m on the other side of the coin on it…I think it was a horrible decision to bring Mayfield in to Tampa.

    But…par for the course with Bowles I suppose.

  24. CrackerBall Says:

    Mayfield wanted an opportunity to compete for a starting gig – where else could he go with the WR talent we have to offer here? He made a good choice to come here, but it remains to be seen if WE made a good choice bringing him here.

  25. Goatfarmer Says:

    Bringing Mayfield in is unfair to Kyle Trask! He’s done his time in the onion cellar, nothing says “start the player” like the way he’s been unfairly treated by the Bucs since he was (over) drafted in the second round. Throw him out there! Never mind what his coaches and management think, you know, the people who have been intimately evaluating him every day for two years. But his fans want to see what they have in him!

    By golly, there’s no better reason to start a player than that.

  26. Beej Says:

    We still need at least one more quarterback

  27. Dooley Says:


    We’ll probably have 2 QBs in rookie camp. We were 1 of 8 teams at Tim DeMorat pro day a few weeks back, while 4 of the other 7 teams that also attended have starters set in place like SD, KC, MIA, & NYJ. DeMorat is coming out of Fordham U, which isn’t exactly a football mill in terms of talent, but he’s a big, strong armed QB, with alot of playing experience. Still think we settle on a QB at some point in the draft, which may happen earlier/later than expected once the overall draft board goes live.

  28. adam from ny Says:

    if baker is successful here, he is a very sellable product, a dude with a tude, and can be easily plopped back into commercials and fan friendly scenarios – so he is worth the gamble of having a revival…

    on another note…

    i want a chinese back scratcher too 🙂

  29. Marine Buc Says:

    “I think this was a terrible decision by Baker Mayfield to go to Tampa,” Marshall said.”


    Was the XFL a better option?

    This person is a complete MORON!!!!!!!!!

  30. adam from ny Says:

    i’m also still into going for lamar…

    toss baker in the trade as cargo…

    sorry baker if you read this, but after all lamar is lamar

  31. Redeemer Says:

    I know it was garbage time, but baker looked pretty good for LA. He needs excellent coaching, and talent around him. In that respect, I agree with marshall. This is the bowles show. Sad as it is, I think they’re giving him full control over game planning. Yeah we have a new OC, but bowles certainly had a hand in who they hired. The running game has to improve simply because it can’t be worse than it was. The question is how much better they can be. 18th is a good number Joe. But baker needs a top 10 running game to succeed. It’s going to be a long hard season.

  32. adam from ny Says:

    is there a chance the bucs can do a backscratcher giveaway, sponsored by advent health, at one of the home games this year…???

    i could use a couple…

    imagine all these crazed buc fans scratching their backs in the heat on a hot sunday afternoon…beer in one hand…chinese back scratcher in the other…

    the jumbo-tron could tell the fans “everyone scratch the back of the person in front of you” 🙂

  33. Rand Says:


    (Never mind what his coaches and management think)

    Can you post examples where these supposed Bucs coaches and management have said derogatively ?

  34. Smashsquatch Says:

    Bucs and Baker are a great match. Good fit for both. Marshall is clueless.

  35. Alexandre Nascimento Says:

    Can we sign Yannick Ngakoue? Is it a good ideia?

  36. Alexandre Nascimento Says:

    Leonard Floyd? Calais Campbell? Frank Clark?
    Justin Houston? Any of them?

    THAT would be a bridge for our 2023 pick

  37. Pewter Power Says:

    Just because you played the game doesn’t mean you can predict what a team will look like on opening day, no one even knows what kind of offense we’re runny Goofy

  38. Realitycheck Says:

    All the would be geniusses,
    Couch potatoes, old coaches, old players, monday morning quarterbacks, loonie tuners,
    Leaders of team need
    To earn their money
    Fan since 76

  39. Rog Says:

    How many more NFL teams must Baker Mayfield run through – now that he’s on his fourth in five years – before the deluded finally realize he is what he is: a less-likable, higher-drafted version of Gardner Minshew? It has nothing about him needed “to be in the right offensive system” or have the “right complementary pieces” or just “needs a stable situation.” He’s a mediocre quarterback, period, and it’s hilarious seeing so many fans and football media members keep hyping him up and promise that “this time” it will work out for him. This is the same foolish talk we heard last year when Trubisky signed with the Steelers. Or when Mayfield went to Carolina?

  40. David Says:

    Baker was offered a back up job with Rams. That’s is why he left. Rams and his previous teams know Baker is not a NFL starter. Todd B. is trying to fool us that Baker is a winner and a leader. LOL. he doesn’t have a stats to support it. Bucs should have invest in their second round Trask than giving a failed qb, Baker a chance again, again.

  41. TAMPA BAY DEMON™ Says:

    I like Brandon Marshall….. he is a cool dude.

    But honestly… nobody gives a s**t what you think about what Baker Mayfield has decided to do. It is HIS decision and not yours.

    And I think Baker & the Bucs are going to surprise alot of people next year.

  42. Jfn99 Says:

    The draft will tell us how much faith the Bucs brass and coaches have in our current QB situation. We draft a QB in top 3 rounds then they have little confidence in Trask being successful. If no QB is drafted or a late 6th 7th round guy then maybe they really do have faith in Trask turning into a top caliber starter. Still think Baker will get the first few games based off salary and experience but Trask will get a chance by mid season to show what he can do.

  43. Steven007 Says:

    Jackson has proven that his decision making ability is very suspect. Last year, not playing at a playoff game that he could have played in, instead choosing to stay at home was a monumentally stupid decision. A playoff game! He could have made himself a folk hero had he performed well and had they won that game. And his brainless decision to not have an agent, or more accurately to have his mother play an agent, is idiotic. His mother! Now ii she were an agent or a lawyer of course this would be a different story. But she’s not. So he handcuffed himself by being unable to negotiate during the early negotiation periods. Stupid. Add to that the fact that he’s a one and a half trick pony. Amazing runner, average passer at best. Often hurt. Add all this up and he wants a quarter of a billion dollar fully guaranteed contract. I’m thankful that our owners are smart enough to pass up this golden opportunity.

  44. RustyRhinos Says:

    Hey Andy “but after all Lamar is Lamar” You do not win anything from being on IR…. because you know, “but after all Lamar is Lamar” and has been on IR a lot for the price tag he wants for his services.

  45. Goatfarmer Says:

    Rand — how infantile are you? Of course they’re not going to say anything derogatory about the guy. You think they will just come out and say “He’s a failure nd we failed by drafting him?”

    It’s what they haven’t said.

    They’ve praised his work ethic. That’s it. No praise for the way he goes through progressions, processes field action, nothing about fitting it into tight windows, nothing about his arm talent.

    But I’m sure he’s the gemstone you think he is, he has been held captive on purpose to deprive you of seeing him live and in color.

  46. Defense Rules Says:

    SOEbuc … ‘Canales will be running the offense and Bowles will be running the defense.’

    Exactly. Todd Bowles knows that he needs 2 things to succeed THIS year & keep his job. First, a respectable defense. Based on his record as a DC over several years, he can accomplish that goal even with the middle-tier roster the Bucs are providing him with. But only if he focuses on THAT virtually full-time. Even ranking in the Top-10 to Top-15 area will take nearly all his attention IF he opts to remain as the DC.

    Second, he needs a respectable offense. It doesn’t have to be a Top-5 offense like we had in 2020 & 2021 with Tom Brady, but it does need to be ‘respectable’. My guess is that one in that same area … Top-10 to Top-15 … would be considered ‘respectable’ THIS year.

    And that’s where Dave Canales comes in. Bowles isn’t a micro-manager like some. He’ll give Canales plenty of room to make mistakes as this offense morphs into ‘something different’ from what we saw with Tom Brady. I doubt that any of us know at this point what that will be.

    This is a transition year, whether we call it a rebuilding or a retooling or a restocking. Odds are excellent IMO that 2024 will also be a transition year. I for one am eager to see what this ‘something different’ looks like as this team evolves over the next couple of years.

  47. BuxfaninTX Says:

    No Texan wants to live in California

  48. Redeemer Says:

    ROG, couldn’t have said it better. I think the bucs were one of a very few teams that guaranteed him a chance to start. It’s my personal belief that they told him he’d be the guy. He may have had other offers to compete for a starting job, but the bucs were it would be easiest to win QB 1.

  49. Goatfarmer Says:

    Adam from NY — ROTFLMAO. This is gold. Platinum even..
    adam from ny Says:
    March 27th, 2023 at 12:56 pm
    is there a chance the bucs can do a backscratcher giveaway, sponsored by advent health, at one of the home games this year…???

    i could use a couple…

    imagine all these crazed buc fans scratching their backs in the heat on a hot sunday afternoon…beer in one hand…chinese back scratcher in the other…

    the jumbo-tron could tell the fans “everyone scratch the back of the person in front of you” _________

  50. James in Memphis Says:

    Brandon Marshall is not going to nobody’s HOF. Stop it.. Who wrote that lie??

  51. Max Says:

    Marshall is right, Bowles is a temporary bandaid just like Mayfield. They will be gone next year.

  52. lambchop Says:

    Brandon Marshall – a future HOF WR? Is this sarcasm?

  53. Flats The Flounder Says:

    That’s why they play the games. It all will come out good or bad during the season. Let’s wait for that. I am excited about the possibilities.

  54. Elita Vita Says:

    I know the buccaneers have many needs. That being said in a fantasy world I would like for RB Bijon Robinson and perhaps a good tackle in the 1st 2 round to be drafted ……just dreaming I guess. (Sigh)

  55. #99 the Big fella Says:

    Brandon Marshal? Never heard of her!

  56. Rod Munch Says:

    adam from ny – that’s a fantastic idea. You should run the Bucs promotions department.

  57. Bucs since 76 Says:

    Baker only counts 1,700,000 against the cap. That’s all we can afford he was are best bet for this year. In 2024 Brady’s 35 million dead cap hit will be gone. Then we can go big game hunting in 2024.

  58. Rand Says:


    (But I’m sure he’s the gemstone you think he is)

    I never said that he was anything. All I’ve said is I don’t know how good he may be since he’s never worked with the #1″s. but you are definitive in the derogative things you’re saying about him like as if you know.

    BUT YOU DON’T KNOW EITHER ..You’re trying to steer public opinion on things not being said as if you have this personal agenda to derail Trask’s career before it even gets started. You are a bad fan and those who prescribe to your BS might as well be sheep.

  59. BoricuaBucfan Says:

    Goatfondler🤣🤣🤣🤣 that shi is funny. Bowles is a great coordinator, as far as head coach, well, he did win 10 games for the garbage Jets with Fitzpatrick as his QB so I think that should at least buy him the benefit of the doubt

  60. Steven M. Says:

    Give Baker a chance !

  61. Dooley Says:


    Average Hall of Fame WR (per Football Reference):
    — 769 receptions
    — 11,791 yards
    — 92 TDs
    — 6 Pro Bowl appearances
    — 2 All-Pro selections

    Brandon Marshall:
    — 970 receptions (+201 vs. average)
    — 12,351 yards (+560)
    — 83 TDs (-9)
    — 6 Pro Bowl appearances (0)
    — 1 All-Pro selection (-1)

    Marshall put those numbers up playing with 15 different QBs, it’s an outside chance he makes it to Canton with this year being his first year of eligibility. Maybe not first ballot, but still >0% chance for a WR that was a 4th round selection. By comparison, Mike Evans would have to play until 2026 to match Marshall’s longevity, catch 287 passes to match Marshalls’ career receptions, score 2 more TDs to match Marshalls’ TD total, and would have to gain 1,926 more yards to match Marshalls’ career yardage total. Doubtful Mike Evans makes 4 more pro bowls.

  62. Oneilbuc Says:

    Rand . I agree 💯 percent what you are saying about Goofarmer and some of the other people on here. I don’t think no one has said that Trask is a great quarterback because no one knows if he’s going to be good or bad . But it seems to me if you don’t say negative things about Trask on a consistent basis then you are claiming that he’s going to be a hall of famer . Ain’t nothing wrong with just waiting and see if he’s good or not. You have to constantly talk down on a guy with no facts. Opinions are not facts rather they’re positive or negative especially when you never seen the guy play .

  63. bob in valrico Says:

    I believe Brandon Marshall played for 13 years so if Evans matches his productivity in 11 years with his recent yards per reception and TD production
    Evans has a great chance. Considering what the pro bowl has devolved to ,I am not sure how important that is. No knock on Brandon Marshall, he was a darn good
    player. Then again there is no certainty that Evans or his QB will be able to sustain his catches,yardage and TD’s.

  64. JeffreyLane77 Says:

    This Trask situation reminds me of how this team dealt with Roberto Aguayo. They over drafted Roberto then we didn’t see him in practice or preseason. Kinda felt like the coaches were hiding him from the public on purpose. Trask has been with the team since 2021 he has been through two NFL seasons. If the coaches saw him as starter material we would have seen more of him by now. We as fans still have no idea if he’s any good simply because we have seen very little of his play. That to me says he’s not up to the job. Chances are Trask is gone after this season.

  65. Dooley Says:

    Agreed Bob, I think Marshall was a 12 year vet, could be wrong but I do think he took a year off at the end of his career. Wasn’t a case against Evans, but ijs for the chirpers scoffing at the idea of Marshall getting into the HOF in comparison to Evans who has an SB title Marshall doesn’t have, but still chasing some of Marshall’s career numbers speaks to how good Marshall was in comparison to the avg stats of every HOF inducted WR combined. Also think Evans being apart of so many losing Bucs rosters plays against his greatness in the eyes of accolades with his rookie year being the prime example, still think he was robbed for OROY that was given to OBJ.

  66. Buc king Says:

    I just hope for a fair competition at qb..
    Trask vs Mayfield..
    Iron sharpen iron..
    Keep are top 3 receivers healthy..
    Find a real te.. some one who can block n catch.
    Run the ball effectively.

    Def is bend and only brake sometimes.
    So will see

  67. bob in valrico Says:

    I hope he makes it. Having dealt with mental health issues and playing at an impressive pace at Bears and Jets. as for the thirteen years, his last two were
    included only 12 games and didn’t add much to his resume, so the eleven year mark would probably be fair.

  68. Bojim Says:

    All the bad articles. Now I’m pulling for him.

  69. David Says:

    The reality is, there are very few quarterbacks who can succeed without a running game. Even those that do, they are much better off with the threat of the run.

    I just hope they allow Trask and Mayfield to compete so they can see what they have this year while continuing to stock up with youth through the draft and free agent signings when possible.
    Basically, I do not want them to draft a QB. Fortify everywhere else and get your QB next year from whoever emerges or through the draft.

  70. Darin Says:

    Turrrible decision by Tampa as well, says Lovie Smith.

  71. Dooley Says:


    The smart move would be to evaluate both QBs we have and get another QB to come in and be an understudy of Canales’ scheme. Fans on this site are way too “draft your franchise QB next year” and there’s no surety in how the 2024 QB class shapes out, where we’ll be picking, and how that’ll factor in to what we have. Absolute worst case is we see Mayfield not brought back, we alienate Trask, and have to dump resources when we should be looking to add/spend more next offseason with salary cap getting a bump up AND our ledgers being clearer of dead money.

    I mean, look at the FA market not a lot of long term deals being doled out, because teams know they’ll be getting a “stimulus” being able to spend more. Read that as it stands now, a team like the Titans will be under the cap by about $131 million with the cap increase, and I’d imagine there are other NFL teams looking to take full advantage of that as should we with Wirfs & Whites’ deals on the horizon. Fans think short term, but NFL teams worth billions gotta think short to long and everything in between in attempts to fielding the most competitive(=profitable) team possible.

  72. Buccos Says:

    Mayfield gives us a punchers chance at winning some games. Hey if Taylor Heineke and Gardiner Minshew can win some games in this league than Baker Mayfield can too. But let’s wait and see what Trask has to offer first

  73. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Goatfarmer Says:
    “Of course they’re not going to say anything derogatory about the guy. You think they will just come out and say “He’s a failure and we failed by drafting him?”

    It’s what they haven’t said.”

    Now hold on. Does that mean if I do not say I am a serial killer, then I must be one? No.

    What them not saying does is allow people to make assumptions, wrong or right, without actually knowing the truth.

    Just say it straight. You are stating your opinion, just like everyone else. There is no proof either way.

    I think the biggest complaint, and I agree with it, is that Baker is going to be handed to starting job whether he earns it or not. The only exception would be if he totally sucks…but if he and Trask are both looking great, Baker will get it instead.

    And anyone claiming he has EVER proven he deserves it is pulling the wool over their own eyes.

  74. Rod Munch Says:

    Lambchop – I’m not going to die on the hill that Marshall is a HOF’er, but he was really really good while playing with some bad QBs. He reminds me a ton of Andre Johnson who was a stud forever with the Texans, but since they stunk, no one remembers him.

    Thankfully Evans got his years with Brady so he doesn’t fall into the same trap as those two guys. Although, had Winston stuck around, I think the Bucs are in the playoffs the last few years – just not winning the SB.

    Also, interesting since I was looking at all these guys stats… Andre Johnson’s production started to really slide at 33. Marshall’s production really started to slide at 32. Vincent Jackson’s production really started to slide at 32.

    For the upcoming Evans extension, which I assume happens post draft when the Bucs know how much money they need to pay for their picks, I think they can pretty comfortably give Evans a 3-year extension, which would have him turning 33 in the last year of the deal. I assume the Bucs would prefer a 2-year extension (so 3 more years), but I think they’ll be fairly safe doing 3-year more years, knowing that last year will likely be limited production, but should hopefully be mentoring someone new, the same way Vincent Jackson mentored him.

  75. Goatfarmer Says:

    The Trask Suppression Consipracy is hilarious. If he’s really as good as you slurpers want him to be, he will shine through.


    But you’re already hedging the possibility that he fails by saying “he’s not getting a fair shot.”

    He’s getting paid to play QB in the NFL.

    He studied at the feet of Tom Brady for two seasons.

    What the hell do you people think is “fair?” He plays in practice right? Unless your conspiracy really believes he’s been behind bars getting tortured or something.

    Bonz – really man? Serial killer?

    This is sports. Football. Tremendous athletes get accolades all the time for their physical prowess.

    No one – nada person – zero humans – on the Bucs has ever raved about anything physical he’s done since joining the Bucs. No not the weight room, although from the pics of him it looks like he may not know where that is.

    As a quarterback, no one on the Bucs has gushed about the guy. Everything said has been qualified, but lots of kudos for trying hard.

    And now Baker is here. And there will be two more. Unfair you say!

    Good lord.

  76. Brazen Zebra Says:

    Baker wins with Bowles, but Baker wins even better with Arians. Make Arians HC. Go Bucs! Shake & Bake!!

  77. BoricuaBucfan Says:

    @Rod Munch Andre Johnson will be a 1st ballot HOF’er playing for the Texans or not. Marshall on the other hand…

  78. Ken Kistner Says:

    I thought that Mayfield was being brought in as a 2 or 3. Trade him to the Ravens (as they wanted him) Right now the Bucs have 2 QB’s and if the old “saw” holds true then they have none. The more the Bucs mess with the QB also ran Mayfield this offseason the more it looks like the team will implode and need to start over.