Derek Carr Already Auditioning For New Team
February 3rd, 2023
“Come to Tampa Bay, Derek! We’ll go get liquored up at Hooters. Boy, do I have stories about the Bucs!”
Yesterday, there was a skills competition for quarterbacks in Sin City as part of the Pro Bowl Games, one in a series of events leading up to Sunday’s flag football game.
There, because Joe Burrow begged out of the Pro Bowl, was Raiders quarterback Derek Carr, who was told to stay away from team as the Raiders want to dump him before Feb. 15 so they don’t have to pay a $40 million roster bonus.
Joe saw a video from Kyle Brandt of NFL Network saying how weird it was to see Carr walk around the site of the event at the Raiders’ facility in suburban Las Vegas, but Carr was rolling with generic AFC gear not Raiders gear.
Then, Brandt said, Carr lit up the skills competition as best by far. Former Steelers and WTF cornerback Ryan Clark, who was covering the event for BSPN, backed up what Brandt saw and said Carr was simply on fire.
Basically, it appeared Carr was auditioning for his next team. Carr could be traded in the next couple of weeks or he may be released. Time will tell.
Joe’s hunch is that Todd Bowles very much prefers a veteran quarterback as opposed to green-as-grass Kyle Trask. If Bowles has another losing season in 2023, Joe wouldn’t be confident Bowles returns with the Bucs in 2024.
Unless the Bucs launch Operation Tank and activate #CollapseForCaleb.
Remember, in his season-ending press conference, Bowles said you are always reloading and never rebuilding. Well, if you start a guy in his third season who has yet to start an NFL game, you’re rebuilding whether you like it or not. Or you are tanking, but surely one of the two.
Joe is also going to take a leap and figure that Carr being a class guy really appeals to Bowles. And the Bucs, Joe believes, would be appealing to Carr. How many teams boast Mike Evans and Chris Godwin and have an opening at quarterback?
The problem with the Bucs and Carr now, aside from salary, is who the hell will be calling the plays? Joe assumes Carr (and his agent) sure would like to know.
Derek Carr from the top rope š https://t.co/IA4i4FJmpm
— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) February 3, 2023
February 3rd, 2023 at 7:28 am
Look, if Trask is not ready in year 3 then he never will be. If Carr can be had for free, no trade or picking up that ridiculous contract, great.
With the cap issues, the Bucs should play the next season with a modest salaried QB. That is Trask.
And putting stock in a rookie is stupid. Everyone thinks every rookie is the next Mahomes or Burrow. They are the rarest of rare. The history of rookies taking off immediately? Marino. Mahomes. Burrow.
Thatās it. No one else.
Caleb is an immature person. He lacks common sense. Heās not that good. Heās the next Jameis. So get over it.
February 3rd, 2023 at 7:31 am
Retread
We have a 3 year veteran, Trask , play him!
February 3rd, 2023 at 7:37 am
I like Carr. Looks like wears pirate eyeliner already.
Go get him and keep investing in the lines
February 3rd, 2023 at 7:40 am
Baby steps. Is it too much to ask if Trask could beat out Blaine Gabbert in camp first?
February 3rd, 2023 at 7:40 am
Trask will start week 1. Otherwise it represents yet another failed second round draft pick for Licht.
February 3rd, 2023 at 7:47 am
1. I donāt know where people think we are going to come up with the money to pay guys like Carr that folks keep saying we should āgo getā.
2. This team, after free agency, is not a QB away from competing at a high level.
3. Build the trenches then go get your QB.
February 3rd, 2023 at 7:52 am
Hard pass on him please – he is not good – He was Baker Mayfield before Baker Mayfield
Jacoby Brissette is the bridge we need – best of the journeyman and a perfect stopgap player
February 3rd, 2023 at 8:17 am
I like Carr. I really donāt get all this rebuilding doom and gloom. We really are a couple 6 players and an o-coordinator away from being the team that won the Super Bowl 2 years ago. All the trask lovers- it would be great if he was ready to go but coaches havenāt shown any signs that heās there. If I were Bowles Iād be taking a hard look at Carr.
February 3rd, 2023 at 8:19 am
Could be a good selling point, I’ll be pissed off if New Orleans throws some draft picks at Las Vegas and takes Carr off their hands before the deadline. Then it really won’t matter who our QB will be because we’ll be with the Falcons & Panthers playing for 2nd place at best in the NFC South in 2023. Now I sound as pessimistic as some of you always sound, gross.
February 3rd, 2023 at 8:28 am
We shot our wad last year….>Brady….resigning Godwin, Davis, Jensen, Lenny…..
And….we had a losing season and blowout in the playoffs…
What makes anyone think that mortgaging our future further will be any better.
Bowles doesn’t deserve a high-priced experienced vet at QB…he had that and blew it…
Suck it up….get younger….Start Trask or a cheap FA…..maybe we’ll get lucky and repeat 2022.
February 3rd, 2023 at 9:02 am
The Bucs won’t even have to trade for Carr. His contract becomes fully guaranteed on Feb 15 and he has a no trade clause in his contract. Raiders will have to release him before then.
February 3rd, 2023 at 9:11 am
Anyone who thinks this team is a couple of players away from being high level competitive is straight delusional. The situation has already been broken down by many here. Hell, DR’s breakdown of the defense needs alone should be enough to squelch that psychosis. Then there is a non existent run game due to a bad oline where at least two players need to be replaced. Wr speed-gone. Oh and let’s not forget the OC replacement and the coup de grace, Todd Bowles, whom is t capable of high level competition as a head coach. This team is done for at least 2-3 years. There is absolutely zero continuity for anyone in this team to latch onto. That has to be developed. Stop wasting effing money and get this ship right. And get your heads right.
February 3rd, 2023 at 9:12 am
Build up the Big Uglies, and almost any QB would work.
February 3rd, 2023 at 9:13 am
No new QB. Suck up the cap hits and dead $$$ in 2023.
Start 2024 fresh.
February 3rd, 2023 at 9:23 am
Trading for or signing Carr would be the dumbest thing Bucs could do this off season.
February 3rd, 2023 at 9:27 am
I said Carr about 6 months ago and shot down hard by some posters. Amazing the changes that happen when Brady retires.
That being said, we won’t trade for him. His salary cap is a killer. But if he is cut and we are starting from square one, I would think he would likely be multiple steps ahead of Trask.
February 3rd, 2023 at 9:55 am
Start the rebuild. Have a plan that will take a couple of years. Build the trenches first. Keep drafting a qb as well. Increase your odds of hitting on a franchise QBā¦ā¦..Period.
February 3rd, 2023 at 9:55 am
Joe wants “Tanking for Caleb”?? Isn’t he a college kid? Don’t recall that Caleb EVER played in an NFL season game. Am I missing something?
February 3rd, 2023 at 10:08 am
There goes Joe again. Pushing 6’1″ Caleb. ABT.
February 3rd, 2023 at 10:22 am
That was a regular showing out, Joe.Between hitting the QB, a bunch of ridiculous PI, and the defense not able to make a tackle so clean they get flagged for it, the NFL is flaq football.
February 3rd, 2023 at 10:25 am
Bring him in. I don’t want Evans and Godwin’s careers end on a rebuild. Or trade them then.
February 3rd, 2023 at 10:29 am
How does a team 55 million in the hole pay for 38 million QB?
February 3rd, 2023 at 10:31 am
Tanking a season is a loser idea. Caleb isnāt any more of a sure thing than plenty of other QBs. Iām not tanking for the right to draft a 50/50 proposition.
February 3rd, 2023 at 10:32 am
Don’t want him…
Can’t afford him…
If he couldn’t win in Vegas with the best WR, RB and TE – plus a better O-line – how in the world is he going to win here?
I don’t care what he does in a goofy “skills” competition. When the pressure is on for real this guy folds like a cheap lawn chair.
February 3rd, 2023 at 10:54 am
Hard pass. we don’t need another middle-aged high price quarterback. Five years ago absolutely sign me up. He’s not Tom Brady, and it was the skills drill with no pressure.
February 3rd, 2023 at 11:00 am
“Carr lit up the skills competition”
He was benched by the Raiders for a reason. But, yeah, let’s sign him because of a skills competition! LMAO.
February 3rd, 2023 at 11:03 am
Joe’s Three Stooges:
1. Johnny Manziel
2. Jameis Winston
3. Derek Carr
February 3rd, 2023 at 11:05 am
@Sasquatch
No team is going to pay that contract AND give up draft capital, that’s why the league will wait 12 days to see when Vegas cuts him, then Carr will be a FA with over a month head start on the market before FA even begins. Just another option at QB, but no way Bowles puts all his eggs in Trasks’ basket, especially consdering what he went through with Darnold & the Jets. Fans need to give that crackpipe dream up as Trask is going to be in year 3 learning a brand new playbook and being crowned the starting QB? Also does anybody really expect the Glazers to be like “you know what, screw 2023 lets look beyond that” and have a desire to remain relevant? I seem to think they like intl games, hosting SNF/MNF games, and division titles, and schmoozing, billionaires love to schmooze
February 3rd, 2023 at 11:12 am
mark2001 Says: “I would think he would likely be multiple steps ahead of Trask.”
The Raiders benched him for a reason, so maybe not.
Plus, he’s a fossil. He’d play maybe a couple years when we’re not winning anything anyway, for what purpose?
February 3rd, 2023 at 11:14 am
IMHO, Cars most likely landing spot will be in Denver with Peyton
February 3rd, 2023 at 11:25 am
@Doofus Dooley
If there is a new playbook next season ALL the quarterbacks will have to learn it, not just Trask.
February 3rd, 2023 at 11:43 am
I’m on the “Tank with Trask” autonomous bus…
February 3rd, 2023 at 11:43 am
@gp: so what will the Broncos do with Wilson and his mega-mega contract?
February 3rd, 2023 at 11:48 am
Savior Carr would have been a back up with Brady at the helm. Even Aaron Rodgers would have ridden the pines. So of course Trask didnt get any snaps. Bringing in an expensive QB with the teams salary cap issues and holes on both sides of the ball doesn’t make common sense let alone the obvious fiscal sense.
February 3rd, 2023 at 11:56 am
Bucs could do a LOT worse than Carr!
I would be thrilled with Carr over drafting a qb and waiting to see IF he can develop or BUST… Let’s face it… It’s a Bucs life that even the #1 over ALL pick will be a colossal bust for us (see J. Winston)…
February 3rd, 2023 at 11:58 am
@Beano
I’ve read enough from you on this site to not take what you know of the game of football seriously, for all I know you’re some raging Gator fan banking on Trask to be the next, uh, erm Rex Grossman? lmao foh
February 3rd, 2023 at 12:01 pm
Iām in the Jacoby Brissett boat. Moderate price, decent QB you can win games with, while developing a future QB (not Trask).
February 3rd, 2023 at 12:13 pm
Iām with lilā b beanoā¦secretary of The Trask Force ā¢ļø and former moderator of the Teen People message boards. Play Traskā¦grab a 2024 top 3 pickā¦send Bowles packing and start anew.
February 3rd, 2023 at 12:33 pm
@Beano
Trask was a slow bloomer in college, and apparently that is the case in his pro career. #2 is not going to be the only QB on our depth chart for too long, and having to learn a new playbook in his 3rd year in the league is going to test his acumen as a QB then he’s got to pair that with his physical ability and beat out at least 1 veteran QB for the job. Also smoother transition for our new OC whomever that be working with a QB with meaningful reps in an offensive system, better base to start from as opposed to just sticking with Kyle Grossman
February 3rd, 2023 at 12:35 pm
sasquatch Says: “while developing a future QB (not Trask).”
^ FSU fan with Jameis Winston home AND away jerseys in his closet.
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:11 pm
If Trask is a bust we’ll never know since so many people would rather go with Carr. Exactly what has he done? #1 WR, best RB last season, great TE and a sneaky good slot WR and he gets benched for a journeyman QB. Bring in some competition that isn’t crazy expensive and let them and Trask have a true competition to start. Who knows maybe just maybe the Bucs finally have a franchise QB that they developed. I totally don’t get the tanking talk and there’s NO WAY Bowels does that because he knows he’s on the hot seat.
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:17 pm
beano Says:
February 3rd, 2023 at 12:35 pm
Well, you’re not real bright are ya?
Nope, not a FSU or Winston fan. I don’t base my evaluation of a player on what college they went to like the UF or FSU homers.
I just don’t see anything special about Trask. Not a believer… but if they start him, I’ll certainly pull for him to light it up.
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:17 pm
Why, the nerve of you to use common sense and reason! š
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:17 pm
FACT: Carr failed in Vegas and he will fail spectacularly under the lax, lame. unmotivated Bowels of the Earth.
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:18 pm
Dear Derek,
Check out Mons Venus. Collect a check. Enjoy Tampa nightlife. That’s what players do here. See the GMC philosophy w/r/t Bucs football!
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:18 pm
I have no idea how J03’s moderation filters work. You don’t have to say anything remotely offensive to end up awaiting moderation. Crazy.
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:18 pm
Yaaaay, more moderation.
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:19 pm
How about if I misspell the word m0der@tion?
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:24 pm
Joe simply dislikes liberals and snowflakes and instigators therefore you’re more closely moderated.
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:26 pm
Nothing stresses me out. Except having to seek the approval of my inferiors
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:30 pm
Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:31 pm
Start Trash!
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:34 pm
It’s hard to beat out a guy that the coaches love so they put you with the backups to the backups. We don’t know what we have in Trask because he’s never played with the starters. He’ll be possible on level ground for a true competition when we bring in a new OC.
That is common sense.
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:42 pm
“Unless the Bucs launch Operation Tank and activate #CollapseForCaleb.”
If the Buc’s do that can someone give me a solid reason to bother watching next year? We did the final GAME which was horrible. And it came back to bite the Bucs in the arse with Fameis Jameis.
I do not want to waste my time watching any team that doesn’t care about winning because they’re playing for draft position. That sucks!
Just because another SB is not coming next year is no reason to tank the season. Someone gave the example of the Steelers. They actually had a better record than the Bucs after losing their franchise QB.
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:42 pm
Were screwed
February 3rd, 2023 at 2:08 pm
Cobraboy
Take a loss on a trade, it’s not like he tore the place up last year. Rather underwhelming.
He’s not Peyton’s kind of QB
Carr fits
February 3rd, 2023 at 2:13 pm
sasquatch Says: “I just donāt see anything special about Trask.”
You haven’t seen Trask with even the second team, much less the first team.
During the season, though, when Brady played poorly, it was because of the players around him, right? How do you square that with the garbage players around Trask? The players affect the play of one quarterback but not the other quarterback? You’re not very bright.
By the way, Jerry Glanville didn’t see anything either in Brett Favre, did he?
February 3rd, 2023 at 2:41 pm
I’m in agreement with stpete on this.
Problem is… We’re up against it fiscally and we have (IMO) a HC that doesn’t have what it takes when stacked with talent. How well can he do when the talent pool gets a little shallow?
February 3rd, 2023 at 2:54 pm
GP…In a 2019 article, Carr did have the third fastest QB release time… Jimmy G had the 2nd. Brady number one of course. Considering our O line, I’d think those two guys might be the places to start looking for a guy to succeed. And I’d prefer Carr to Jimmy G.
February 3rd, 2023 at 3:09 pm
GET RIGHT NEXT YEAR
1. Suck up the cap penalties
2. Trade vets for picks
3. Cut bad contracts
4. Reload roll players in draft
Be in a position to acquire a franchise QB next year.
February 3rd, 2023 at 3:19 pm
Cooper Rush is an UFA- if you want to go transition year to get out of cap hell- having Rush and Trask battle it out with maybe Gabbert is one way to go.
February 3rd, 2023 at 3:45 pm
Beej Says: “Is it too much to ask if Trask could beat out Blaine Gabbert in camp first?’
The premise of your question – that Trask was allowed to compete with Gabbert – is false. Trask was never allowed to compete with Gabbert. Gabbert was gifted the #2 spot because Tom Brady wanted a veteran as his #2 and the Bucs did what Tom Brady wanted.
In May 2022 – before training camp even started – Bucs quarterback coach Clyde Christensen himself said there would be no competition between Trask and Gabbert, as the #2 spot was Gabbertās: āI DONāT SEE TRASK COMPETING WITH GABBERT FOR THE BACKUP JOB THIS YEAR. YOU CANāT REP EVERYBODY. ITāS HARD TO GET GABBERT ENOUGH REPS. SO WEāLL PREPARE GABBERT AS THE NO. 2.ā
Then, Joe himself wrote: “BUCS QUARTERBACK COACH CLYDE CHRISTENSEN SEEMED PRETTY CLEAR TO ANYONE LISTENING: THE BUCS CANNOT FIND A WAY TO GET 2021 SECOND-ROUND PICK KYLE TRASK ENOUGH SNAPS SO HE CAN HAVE A FAIR SHOT AT PUSHING BLAINE GABBERT FOR THE BACKUP JOB TO TOM BRADY. THEREFORE, GABBERT IS BRADYāS IMMEDIATE BACKUP. END OF STORY.”
But Joe strangely keeps pushing the nonsense that Trask and Gabbert had this big competition, each running the ones, and Gabbert came out on top. It’s total b***s***.
February 3rd, 2023 at 3:47 pm
Derek Carr and Kyle Trask have the same number of playoff wins. Yet one of those guys has been a starting QB in the league for a while now.
February 3rd, 2023 at 4:28 pm
Just hope that Trask has a lightning fast read and release, like Brady did. Or he will probably be knocked out in the first four weeks.
February 3rd, 2023 at 4:29 pm
Just ask yourself… why does every head coach that has had to deal with Carr hate him? Why do they all get fired?
Those who just look at box scores think Carr is good. But you need to actually watch more than his highlights, actually watch him in a game vs a bad team, when the Raiders should have been blowing them out, and what do you see? A QB who plays to protect his stats.
You will never win anything with this guy. Sure, going 5-12 or 6-11 in the NFC might be good enough to win the division, but that’s all you’d ever get out of this guy on this team with Bowles as the headcoach.
February 3rd, 2023 at 5:54 pm
beano Says:
February 3rd, 2023 at 2:13 pm
Actually, he did, but Green Bay offered him a #1 pick and that was enough.
Do you think anyone is offering a #1 pick for Trashk?
February 3rd, 2023 at 5:55 pm
mark2001 Says:
February 3rd, 2023 at 4:28 pm
He doesn’t.
February 3rd, 2023 at 5:56 pm
@beano-
You should really quit before you’re further humiliated.
February 3rd, 2023 at 6:12 pm
Lots of these thought Goff sucked too.
Iād rather Carr any day over Trashk, Goobert or the other scrubs available.
February 3rd, 2023 at 6:15 pm
P J Walker is a free agent hes the only QB that had a quicker release time than Brady so Reichs got a big job repairing the Panther O-line.
February 3rd, 2023 at 7:48 pm
We don’t have to collapse for Caleb. We already know how that works out!
And if we want to rerun that episode…guess what…Fameis Jameis is available!
The Saints have soured on him.
Opinions of JW’s future from some Saints informed sources.
The Saint’s network’s John Hendrix…”Although he’s under contract, the odds of Jameis Winston being on the Saints roster seems slim to none going into next season. Winston is a competitor, and the relationship with the team seems to be fractured after what transpired this season. New Orleans could approach Winston to restructure his deal similar to what they did with Michael Thomas to eventually grant his release as a post-June 1 cut or simply try to trade him. Of course, they could just outright release him. Winston has plenty to prove, and there’s teams that need a QB that will want to give him a look.”
Would the Bucs give him a look?
Bob Rose also from the Saints News Network….Winston’s under contract for next year, but the deal was structured that it would be a minimal cap hit for New Orleans. Assuming Dennis Allen is back as coach, I believe that the Saints release Winston this offseason and “go back to the drawing board” at quarterback.
On Twitter Saints fans are at best ambivalent about JW. One of them thought he’d make a great QB for….wait for it…wait…yep YOUR Tampa Bay Bucs.
Stranger things have happened. I loathe what JW did to the Bucs as a young idiot. He’s been through a lot mentally and physically. Perhaps he’s now finally ready. Remember Dilfer. Many of the same issues as JW in terms of his EGO.
Once Trent got humbled he was ready to lead the Ravens.
Again I’ve never been a big JW fan but if the coaches said he was ready I wouldn’t puke as I would have a couple years back. I think JW “checked his own sheet” and like Dilfer may finally be ready to grow up!
February 3rd, 2023 at 9:32 pm
No thanks.
I donāt want his salary, or Aaron Rodgers salary. Get a vet that is affordable, maybe Jimmy Garoppolo, for a couple years, while they draft a young quarterback, and bring him along. While theyāre at it, some older, big salaries are probably going to be gone as well, Donovan Smith Comes to mind
February 3rd, 2023 at 10:23 pm
sasquatch Says:
ābeano Says: āBy the way, Jerry Glanville didnāt see anything either in Brett Favre, did he?ā
Actually, he did.ā
Actually, Glanville objected to the Falcons drafting Favre and when they drafted him anyway, Glanville told Favre he would never make it in the NFL.
LMAO. Youāre clueless. What a clown.
February 3rd, 2023 at 10:49 pm
@beano,
Someone was willing to offer Glanville a #1 pick for Favre though. Anybody offering that for Trask? I asked that the first time, but you conveniently ignored it. The answer is no, nobody is beating down the door for Kyle Trask. If they tried to trade him, they’d be lucky to get a 5th round pick. What on earth makes you think this guy has a chance to be the Bucs’ franchise QB?
I’ll happily admit I was wrong in doubting him if he ends up being a good starter. Slow learning QBs don’t usually make it in the NFL.
February 4th, 2023 at 2:57 am
Rebuild? Iām not feeling it. We have too many great players. Great receivers, 4 olinemen with Super Bowl rings, and a great young running back. On the other side of the ball we have an above average front 7 and we get Barrett back. We have two fast inside linebackers and probably the best defensive backfield in the league.
Bring in Monken and select his man beast tight end in the first round of the draft and let Trask and Gabbert fight for the starting job . Of course, we should sign Dean AND SMB.
February 4th, 2023 at 3:48 am
ModHairKen, may I toss in Matt Ryan, and Pittsburghs Roethlesburger whom I still can’t spell. Mahomes wasn’t a rookie, he was in his second year. Believe it or not, josh freeman looked very good as a rookie. Herbert, I can go on. its easier now because more and more schools are running pro style offenses.
February 4th, 2023 at 3:50 am
am I the only one that thinks the Bucs can get Aaron rogers?
February 4th, 2023 at 5:21 am
ATLBuc says draft TE Washington. Washington is a project who will be there in the 2nd rd. Blocker with speed. He’s OJ Howard 2.0 no thanks. The best TE available is Michael Mayer. He can block, catch and has some speed. Proven player on a team with no great wide receivers. Three year starter since day 1 of his freshman year. Most catches by a tight end in Notre Dame history where there have been a lot of good TEs. He’s not Gronk, but he’s the closest thing to him in the 2023 draft. Mayer will go mid-1st round (10-20).
That being said, I believe the Bucs go TE in the 2nd round. Probably need to look at Kincaid from Utah if you want some one who is a receiver. Better at catching than blocking. Reliable and led all college TEs with 70 catches and 890 yards last year.
February 4th, 2023 at 9:12 am
sasquatch Says: “Someone was willing to offer Glanville a #1 pick for Favre though. Anybody offering that for Trask?”
1. Because Green Bay’s Ron Wolf was one of the best talent evaluators ever.
2. Contrary to your claim that the Falcons’ Jerry Glanville DID see something in Favre, Glanville actually (i) objected to the Falcons drafting Favre, and (i) when they drafted Favre anyway, Glanville told Favre he would never make it in the NFL. I asked you about that the first time, but you conveniently ignored it.
3. When 6th round pick Tom Brady was on the bench in New England with no real playing experience, nobody offered the Patriots a 1st round pick for Brady either. So your argument fails.
Like I suggested before, find another passtime. Try girls lacrosse. š
February 4th, 2023 at 9:30 am
Most Qbs look like ballers in shorts (see Zack Wilson)
The true test is what they do in game/under pressure…
The problem with Carr is…
From the neck down he has all the tools you look for in QB; but from the neck up it’s a different story…I’ve watched him crumble under pressure for years…He absolutely deserved to be benched…
Please No Carr, Mayfield, Garrapalo, Winston, etc… We’ve seen enough enough from these stiffs to know they’re all garbage…