“Why Would You Run That Back?”

January 25th, 2023

Another guy with very close connections with the Bucs thinks Tom Brady is a non-fit with the Buccaneers — because he’s not very good.

Joe thought it was quite noteworthy when Bucs legend Rondé Barber, a guy paid by the team, said the Bucs may look to the draft for a quarterback to replace Tom Brady.

Then when Barber’s Bucs-friendly brother chimed in, Joe paid even more attention.

Tiki Barber is a host on WFAN radio in New York, the voice of New York Sports, and was adamant that Brady is shot, it’s sad, and it’s time to move on.

“He’s likely done in Tampa because why would you run that back if you’re the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?,” Tiki Barber said.

“It’s getting pathetic,” he added of Brady’s play.

Unless something has changed, the Barber twins are tight and Rondé is a true insider with general manager Jason Licht. Joe suspects the Barbers are echoing some of the messaging echoing from inside One Buc Palace. Not all, just some.

60 Responses to ““Why Would You Run That Back?””

  1. Wut The Buc Says:

    Tiki: the Barber brother no one cares about.

  2. sasquatch Says:

    What’s Rita Moreno’s take?

  3. Davenport Says:

    Time to move on from Tom — they can’t win with him and the distraction he creates will not help the team move forward.

    Awesome QB. Willed the team to a SB. Can’t thank him enough.

  4. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    Brady may not get as much money as he wants, and decide to just call it quits.
    He looked pretty bad at times last year.

  5. SB~LV Says:

    That photo is NOT from this year judging by Toms weight!

  6. SufferingSince76 Says:

    That’s blasphemy!

  7. SB~LV Says:

    Sadly I agree with Ronde and have posted similar this past year

  8. robert Says:

    they said he was done in NE as well.

    I may just become a miami fan if they sign him AND peyton.

  9. WillieG Says:

    A year removed from the stress in his personal life he will gain weight and regain his strength and his focus.

    I can’t believe the people who say he’s done don’t even consider the possibility of him being human enough to experience profound stress. It was right there for them to see: gaunt looking, unfocused, jumpy, weaker than usual. If you’ve ever experienced prolonged stress, you will know what I’m talking about and you’re probably not on the “Brady is done” bandwagon.

    Hopefully Brady understands what happened this year, and doesn’t make things worse by deciding to retire again while not in his right mind.

  10. Arn platz Says:

    The game has evolved to a more Mobile and agile quarterback, able to scramble and extend plays. Brady is drop back, scan quick release. After watching these young gun slingers it has become more apparent

  11. gotbbucs Says:

    My thoughts exactly. You have to be some kind of sadist to want to watch another season like this last one.

    Did Leftwich suck? Of course. So did Brady, and a new offense isn’t going to change that. Not unless the new offense has a limit of 15 air yards under the ball and 85% of the passes be checked down to running backs.

    There aren’t enough quality offensive linemen out there anymore, given the amount of injuries, to be able to build a cocoon around a QB as immobile and old as Brady. He struggled mightily to get through progressions this year, especially with his unwillingness to take any hits.

  12. jerseybuc Says:

    No obvious landing spots for a QB looking for a one year deal. I think Miami with two good WR’s makes the most sense. Tua may benefit from a year off to clear his brain. But their D is not that good. Don’t see Brady going West to SF with Purdy leading them to NFC championship game. Raiders won 6 games last year, Jets? come on man? Titans maybe, but I think Bucs are still in play. How about NE to finish it up? That is my prediction. Brady and Bill both retire after next season.

  13. AlwaysBucs Says:

    Brady is the QB that needs it all clicking, good o line, good scheme, good & healthy weapons. He’s not Manning who would audible out of plays, he’s not gonna take a hit at 45 (or 46) and he’s not gonna carry a bad coach or injured offense to victory weekly.

    Maybe a few times like he did against the Aints and Rams but you can’t count on it every game like Byron did. With the film he put out there this year, underthrows, scared pocket presence, super quick decisions because, he didn’t want to get hit which hurt the offense and the lack of mobility isn’t going to have the 49ers or Dolphins asking for him to sign.

    Both of those teams roll out their QB so much that it would scare them away from signing Tom. Bucs and Raiders are both on the same level but why would Tom go to Vegas to finish 3rd in the division and not make the playoffs when he could win the division with this roster?

  14. Your Mom Says:

    lol sasquatch

  15. Buc1987 Says:

    If he plays he stays…in Tampa.

    Go Bucs!

  16. SB~LV Says:

    Has Bowles been fired yet!?!?!?

  17. Buc1987 Says:

    Buc1987…after this next season…Bowles will be fired.

  18. Buc1987 Says:

    Buc1987 Says:

  19. adam from ny Says:

    uhhhh…wake up guys tom moved on from the bucs…

    if he had intent to be a buc he would be signing or telling them i’m all in, so they can start making every single move with brady as part of the agenda…

    the earlier you start your preparations the better off…

    tom knows this…

    so tom is gone…wake up

  20. BucsFanSince1996 Says:

    I would bet big money that Brady is capable of playing again at an elite level. As a non-mobile QB turning 46 next season, he would need a great O-line to protect him, but I have no doubt that he is still capable as long as he still has that burning desire to acquire another ring. I agree with WillieG that the stress from all that was going on in his personal life had a negative impact on him. The TB12 that we all know would never take an 11-day vacation in the middle of training camp.

    All that said, if I were him I’d start the job at Fox where there are no 300-pound guys trying to throw me to the ground.

  21. robert Says:

    you brady haters are nuts saying he needs a perfect ol and all stars surrounding him.

    He MADE this OL look great and could have possibly done so again with decent playcalling. think about it…at least 50% of the plays were already known by the opponent. up the gut on 1st, quick pass on 2nd and hope and pray on 3rd.

  22. Duane Says:

    Media senses the blood in the water. I dont disagree with Tiki, but no points for trying to call your shot on The Goat after 23 seasons. Not a hot take, we saw it here all season long.

  23. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    87

    Took my line…If he plays, he stays….

  24. Rita Moreno, Football Analyst Says:

    Rita thinks it’s time for Tom to retire.

  25. TOM EDRINGTON Says:

    All the top QB aren’t that great when the rush is all over them…..Brady plagued by a left tackle who can no longer block and the rest of the OLine was pretty crappy as well with the exception of Wirfs, who played hurt in a lot of games.

  26. Marine Buc Says:

    If Brady can’t work out a deal in Miami of Vegas he probably retires and he should…

    He is done in Tampa or else he would have announced his return already.

    I’m fine with moving on from TB12. He was great – I will always respect his time in Tampa but let’s be honest – he was below average this season – especially in the first half of games.

    Most of his yards passing this year were during garbage time. Just like Winston’s final season…

    4-12 with 68 yards passing during the first half. Then once your behind by 20 points and the other team goes into prevent defense – 22-35 with 225 yards passing and a TD.

    Seriously – is Brady even in the top 15 anymore?

  27. Old School Bucs Says:

    Hey Tiki, that’s your opinion, but I ran into the manager at Walmart this morning. He said Brady is staying. Plus, I spoke to my lawn care guy a few minutes ago and he thinks the Bucs are crazy if they get rid of Brady! So take that and smoke it in your podcast that nobody watches.

  28. DG060 Says:

    I said it before If Brady wants to play again but not for us then I couldn’t care less where he ends up. This team is what I care about. If he wants out then I wash my hands of him.

  29. Manny Says:

    Tom brady had a good year all things considering. If anyones a non fit its all the coaches and the players on the team who looked unmotivated all year!!! Tom is still incredible. Sick of people ragging on him. Has any qb im bucs history ever taken the bucs to the playoffs 3 years in a row? And hes only been here three years

  30. Bucs56 Says:

    Brady isn’t moving 3 time zones from his kids to play with a 6 win raider team. Miami , bucs or retire.

  31. Jeff’s grandpa Says:

    Easy barber bros all the blind brady d riders will come at you even if you say the truth

  32. Cobraboy Says:

    If 2022 Brady played like 2021/SB Brady, he’d have teams begging for his services.

    But 2022 Brady played like a scared old man and the whole league knows it.

    I suspect his options are limited.

    I don’t know of any team an old QB away from a Lombardi like the Bucs in 2020 (aided by covid.)

  33. geno711 Says:

    This just shows how much we missed the innovation of Bruce Arians, best Buc coach ever!

  34. Cobraboy Says:

    I agree with Marine Buc. Brady was horrible until garbage time.

    Casuals cannot…or refuse…to see it.

    Two of the last three seasons were incredibly entertaining. But “the window” is closed and 2022 proved it

    It was inevitable.

    Time to move on and let Bowles do the tanking.

  35. NEfan Says:

    Ask Tiki where he would be working right now if the Giants couldn’t run the ball??? NY haters.

  36. mg Says:

    The idiotic coaching is the issue.

  37. Allbuccedup Says:

    Licht should not worry about what Brady is doing he should proceed to build an offensive coaching staff.

  38. Dooley Says:

    Time to continue getting younger, which we already kind of set in motion in the 2022 offseason replacing some of the vets from the 2020-21 roster at least on the bottom half of the roster.

  39. Ok Says:

    Good Lord, you Brady haters are the biggest morons in the history of sports. You know all your complaining and your stupid comments aren’t taking away the 7 Super Bowl titles don’t you? He took this horrific franchise the worst winning percentage in the history of sports and won a Super Bowl shouldgo back to another one. Historically bad, running game, slow wide, receivers, Byron Leftwich, lol, and still led the league in yards and all time record in completions. Do you know why all those quarterbacks have to run out of the pocket? Because they’re not good enough to decipher the defense in the pocket!! . Why do you think running quarterback dont win Super Bowls over the long haul. The guy in Kansas City has been absolutely terrible in 2 Super Bowls. How about Josh Allen in the playoffs? Lol Run around all day, but not accurate enough to make a throw. Keep trolling!! It’s worked out well for you guys the past 23 years

  40. HomerSimpsonRocks Says:

    Hot take from an idiot.

  41. NEfan Says:

    Some of these ex-Buc heros, Rhonda, Brooks, Beckles, Sapp, McCoy, Keyshawn etc are all trying to protect their legacies. They don’t want Tom Brady to be the biggest name to ever play for the Bucs. Sorry boys, he already is.

  42. SB~LV Says:

    Ok… okay hitch your wagon to a 46 year old NFL QB
    Bwahahahahaa

  43. SB~LV Says:

    Hire Kellen Moore as the next head coach!
    WTF is Bowles still on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers website?????
    I have grave doubts about the Glazer’s, they seem to hitch their wagon to anything but head coach material.

  44. rsjcheapseats Says:

    Brady’s QBR
    2019 17th in the NFL. The ’19 Pats were thin offensively. But he looked old at times.
    2020 Brady comes to a nearly perfect situation made even better by a complete home run in the draft (Wirfs) and Brady’s own ability to get players to come to TB (Gront, Brown) Brady is 9th in QBR.
    2021 Brady is SECOND in QBR.
    2022 Enormous problems on the OL and Gronk retires. Brady is 18th in QBR.

    In the perfect situation, Brady is still damn good. But most teams aren’t perfect and it was really a combination of factors that revived Brady’s career – and I doubt if he is going to find a situation as good as the ’20 Bucs was.

    It was great, Tom, thank you. And thank you to our GM who built a roster that made TB attractive to Tom to begin with.

  45. Infomeplease Says:

    TB12 + a healthy o line + a new head coach + a creative /intelligent OC + a creative DC + half of the current free agents = 12 and 5 season + more!!!!!!!!! IMO!!

  46. Ok Says:

    Crying tears of the Brady trolls the past 23 years have been absolutely delicious!! . He’ll be a top-five MVP candidate next year and Tampa will win three games. don’t worry you’ll have a fast QB making some splash plays. Lol.

  47. Rita Moreno, Football Analyst Says:

    SB~LV Says:
    January 25th, 2023 at 1:33 pm

    Hire Kellen Moore as the next head coach!
    WTF is Bowles still on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers website?????

    Rita has noticed you have some problems accepting the reality that Todd Bowles will be the Bucs coach in 2023. Rita finds this very interesting. Rita can tell you that fighting reality is a one way ticket to crazy town. Rita cares.

  48. Nicholas Carlson Says:

    I see the same thing: Brady looked immobile and fearful in the pocket, and threw the ball too early all year. And he skipped a shocking number of passes. BUT if he wants to come back I’d say sure. He gave us a Super Bowl and deserves to make the call.

  49. Vancouver Buc Says:

    Old School Bucs…Solid take, couldn’t agree more. Tiki is washed and is a backseater on a Real Housewife show…that is pathetic

  50. TiredBucsFan Says:

    Draft who?

  51. NEfan Says:

    rsj, thin in 2019? The only receiver he had was Edleman with a bad knee and a 38yr old Ben Watson with a bad ankle. They still went 12-4 and still would have won the PO game if Belichick didn’t call 3 straight dive lefts on a 2nd & goal from the 2. Same LB made all three tackles.

    Of he goes to LV, Miami, Tenn, Detriot or 9ers the team will be in contention.

  52. Kidfloflo Says:

    Joe’s, if Brady gets to pick the new O.C, and say even thoughts on draft picks free agents (which we know he does) etc. Would he stay here with Bowles as H.C ? Is that a deal breaker? Is their relationship tight enough and he have enough trust?

  53. Dart Says:

    After reading these comments I will be happy not to hear about the Bucks as a playoff team for the next 10 years.

  54. Dreambig Says:

    I think we had three main problems this year, Leftwitch, Bowles, and Brady.
    Sometimes he was great but sometimes he was awful. Watching all the young stud QBs in the playoffs makes it obvious its time for Brady to retire. Time to fade off into GOAT glory!

  55. Wild Bill Says:

    Sometimes Brady was great? I watched every game this past season and greatness was clearly missing. Mediocre was consistent. Short passes over the middle were the majority of his completions. Deep throws to Evans were rare and too often off target. Most of Brady’s completions were for 6 or 7 yards or less on crossing routes over the middle. It was young qbs throwing deep bombs or first downs that killed us all season. Deep completions were rare for Brady. Run on first down for short gain or no gain. Short crossing pass over the middle was the most frequent completion. Next best was short pass to the sideline. Rare was a pass to Mike deep or to a tight end for a first down or to anybody for a touchdown. My guess is this was Brady’s fewest td throws in any year since he was the starter for Boston orTampa. Brady had an outstanding career. Until this last season. History has not been kind to 45 year old NFL quarterback s. History hasn’t be kind to very many over 40 qbs. Brady had a tremendous career for a very long time. It ended this year. We watched a lot of young guns beat us with their quick feet and stronger arms. The very last pick of this recent draft made Brady look like a over the hill qb. The best teams thisyear were young guns with strong arms and quick feet.. the non mobile pocket passers are the past.

  56. mark2001 Says:

    Hate the messenger because you hate the message. Tiki is spot on. Why in the world would Brady want to come back? Unless he is desperate to play and not collect 300 million in broadcast money. And no other team worth a squat will make him an offer. Or he says, forget it, not worth it and retires.

  57. stpetebucfan Says:

    “All the top QB aren’t that great when the rush is all over them”

    Tom Brady was tied for 26th most sacked..one behind Andy Dalton.

    Tom Brady was sacked 20 FEWER times than Kirk Cousins and Joe Burrow who tied at 5th most sacked. Josh Allen and Justin Herbert tied at 7th with 15 MORE sacks than Brady. Jalen Hurts had 13 MORE sacks than Brady finishing in 9th.

    You can fault the OL for their part in a disastrouos running game, but their pass blocking was not the issue. Unless you really believe that Burrow, Hurts, Allen and Herbert weren’t really that good, or perhaps Brady’s happy feet in the pocket provided all that extra time and protection. One could make a point that Brady unloads the ball quickly, sadly this year at receivers feet, behind them or in the end zone of a playoff game.

    @OK “Good Lord, you Brady haters are the biggest morons in the history of sports. You know all your complaining and your stupid comments aren’t taking away the 7 Super Bowl titles don’t you? He took this horrific franchise the worst winning percentage in the history of sports and won a Super Bowl”

    First Brad Johnson ALSO took this franchise to a SB win. Brady wasn’t needed back then eh? Meanwhile virtually EVERYBODY here has shown proper respect and gratitude to Brady. NOBODY has “hated” on him or demeaned his achievements. I for example have simply pointed out as you do..he’ll ALWAYS be the GOAT…but he’s no longer even in contention for the GRN Greatest Right Now.

    None of this is a slam at Brady’s achievements. It’s all just the logical question has Father Time who is NEVER denied just postponed, decided to call in his chips. Do you honestly believe that question is hateful or disrespectful?

  58. chickster Says:

    Brady saved are GM and his ride is over

  59. Go Bucs Go Says:

    Upon further review with more information creeping out of onebuc place.

    Brady went through a lot with this UNDERACHIEVING TEAM with NO FIGHT in them. They hung him out to dry, tuned him out so to speak. I witnessed no “win one for Brady” game this season. Heck, they did not play for each other, either.

    The way I see it, the management (including Bruce Arians) tried to squeeze one last desperate magic out of Brady’s final year in contract to revitalize a team whose heyday they knew was already coming to an end toward the end of 2021 season.

    Do him a solid favor, please.
    Let him go.

    Go Bucs!

  60. Dart Says:

    My hope is that whatever team Brady goes on next season will play bucks.

 

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