If Bucs Think Tom Brady Is Gone, It’s A Thick Smokescreen

January 30th, 2023

Bucs QB Tom Brady.

Is this just an elaborate step to let Tom Brady know how much the Bucs want him back?

Twice in the past week Mike Garafolo of NFL Network has mentioned that the Bucs are asking coaches they interview for their offensive coordinator gig to build an offense as if Brady was the quarterback. And Joe is trying to figure out why or how this intel got out, and who released it.

If it’s the Bucs sharing that with media, Joe assumes it’s for one of three reasons:

1. They believe they are still in the sweepstakes for Brady.

2. They want to flush out who they can and cannot trust and figure if word of this leaks, it’s not coming from them so they then know who’s talking.

3. The Bucs probably aren’t pestering Brady daily with texts or e-mails asking, “What are you going to do? What are you going to do?” The Bucs likely want to give Brady his space. So leaking that the Bucs are requiring OC candidates to build an offense around Brady is sort of an end around to let Brady know how much they value his services. Surely if the NFL Network reports this, it will get to Brady.

Garafolo said yesterday on NFL Network, for the second time within a week, that the Bucs are telling candidates to share ways Brady can guide a more productive offense than the schlock that failed offensive coordinator Bryon Leftwich threw together.

It just seems the Bucs planned on this news getting to Garafolo or someone else like Garafolo who has a huge national reach.

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68 Responses to “If Bucs Think Tom Brady Is Gone, It’s A Thick Smokescreen”

  1. Goatfarmer Says:

    The Loose Bowels of Toad will see to it that the Bucs don’t tire their offense out by having them construct more 3 and outs, so they’ll be fresh when down 4 scores in the 4th quarter.

  2. Hodad Says:

    If Brady watched the QB play yesterday and is honest with himself he’ll retire. His time is over. Brady can’t come close to making some of those plays Burrow, Mahommes on a bad ankle, and Hurts made yesterday. Compare them to Brady’s chuck, and duck pick against Dallas that basically ended the game. Yes instead of going up 7, 6 the Bucs completely collapsed after that. Brady doesn’t have it anymore, hope to god we have the sense to at least try and find the next QB. Can’t understand why Joe is obsessed with Brady coming back.

  3. Go Bucs Go Says:


    Sorry. I must’ve watched a different game.
    NFC championship game… QB plays on both teams were horrible. Jalen Hurts did not throw nor ran well.

    AFC championship game… Burrow moved a bit, Mahomes was clearly limited. If anything, it was the team that won the game. Lots of dink and dunks.

    Based on QB play yesterday, Brady will not retire.

    Go Bucs!

  4. Leighroy Says:

    When it comes down to it, isn’t this ‘elaborate step’ just good sense? What’s your plan for option A and what’s your plan for option B? Plan for all contingencies

  5. stpetebucfan Says:

    At 75 I’m trying to get six pack abs for the first time. Everybody scoffs but I’m halfway there and I’m not going to quit! I get Brady’s desire to PUSH himself and see just how far he can go. Thing is, I don’t have to worry about a 275 lb beast trying to take my head off. If I fail, it’s just myself, not an entire organization and fan base.

    Bottom line I understand Brady’s desire. I just hope he realizes he has nothing left to prove…unless he wants to try and get a six pack at 75 lol. He has NO need to risk his brain cells and the rest of his body.

    As a Bucs fan I’d like to see him return. As a compassionate human being I hope he does the right thing and calls it quits.

  6. #99 the Big fella Says:

    I agree stpetebucsfan

  7. SufferingSince76 Says:

    You can’t use this past season as a gauge for Brady’s demise. The circumstances were not normal. Give him a solid o-line on the left side. How many times do you Brady naysayers have to be proven wrong? Apparently, every single time.

  8. beano Says:

    Joe needs to accept that a chance at another NFC South Championship tee shirt is not bringing back his love.

  9. beano Says:

    There is a bigly lesson for the many idiotin one of the quarterbacks

  10. Geno711 Says:


    Right on!

  11. Hodad Says:

    There was only 1 QB in the NFC game Hurts. Did you not see him make plays running? As far as passing he didn’t need to throw. Are some on this site saying they’d take Brady over Mahomes, Hurts,or Burrow? His time is over.

  12. beano Says:

    For the idiots on this website – Goathumper, Rod Munchie, NEmasshole, and countless others – there is a huge lesson in one of the quarterbacks playing yesterday. A lesson sure to be ignored by Joe, so here it is:

    – His name is Jalen Hurts.

    – Late second round pick in 2020 (“Second rounders can’t be any good!”, the idiots would say).

    – Played at Oklahoma (“Oklahoma has never produced a great NFL quarterback, he must suck!”, the idiots would say).

    – 33.8 quarterback RTG in his first season (“He’s a bust, terrible pick, draft another quarterback!”, the idiots would say).

    – Now in his third season, he’s going to the Super Bowl. Suck on that, Trask haters.


  13. Tuddie Time Says:

    I don’t understand the desire for folks wanting Brady to retire. Under the circumstances, going through a public divorce that physically caused him to loose a ton of weight while loosing $93 million with FTX, he played admirably! Prior to last season, folks were ok for him to play until he is 50. His outside of football life interrupted his traditional routine that impacted his play. Think about it, even with a terrible OC, a focused TB12 would’ve never lost to Green Bay, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, etc…. A focused TB12 is still an elite QB! If he wants to come back, we need to blow up the cap and bring free agents in here to make another run. The NFC is there for the taking!

  14. Letsbucinggo Says:

    The only way Brady comes back if the Raiders or 49ers don’t want him. But it doesn’t really matter this team is going no where under Bowles.

  15. Old black man Says:

    Hodad told the THRUTH!

  16. Bucsfan13 Says:

    Brady is retiring. I will not believe that Brady is returning to Tampa until he rents another property in Tampa. That’s the biggest sign. Commuting to Tampa from Miami everyday isn’t happening. Also, I won’t believe he’s returning anywhere until i see more muscle mass on him.

  17. Beej Says:

    Bucs probably trying to glean what the interviewee would have done in BL’s place

  18. Joe Swanson Says:

    Not totally against Brady coming what I am against is shoving more money down the road and still losing. Next year Winfield is a free agent and Wirfs is on his 5th year option and we will be a minus 75 to 100 mil salary cap. At minus 50 plus mil in salary cap this year and we pay Brady their want be any money left for anyone else.

  19. Knucknbuc Says:

    @joe Swanson they don’t care how much money down the road or what the bucs future is like because they’re Brady fans not bucs fans. Like I said this team has holes at every position on the roster does anyone think they will fill them all?? Pass rush? Laughable. Secondary? 4 free agents. linebacker? 1 and a 32 year old lvd. Oline? Decent but a penalty waiting to happen left tackle. Weapons? A few but razor thin and slow. But nope 46 year old Tom Brady comes back we’ll be fine definitely able to compete with all 4 of these teams.

  20. SB~LV Says:

    Probably a tactic to sucker a OC to coming to Tampa a franchise with out a QB or HC

  21. ClwJB Says:

    What I gleaned from yesterday has nothing to do with QB play – game 1 was over on the first drive after the Purdy injury

    The 4 penalties on one drive to get Philly up two scores was what I noticed over and over again

    Extremely uneven officials in favor of the Chiefs and Eagles

    The Bengals just got F#%^ royally – niners killed by injury

    All four of these teams are so much better than the Yuks of Todd Bowles it isn’t even close

    We will be lucky to win 5 games next year with him here regardless of the FA maneuvering

    And only if NY office wants us in it – no Brady, no way

  22. NEfan Says:

    beanblo and blodad, what did you see other than Mahomes that makes you believe Brady couldn’t have played yesterday and won. Pre Purdy getting hurt Hurts looked like the child that he is. He can’t pass, he’s a slower Jackson. He has a 3-4 yr career. Burrows was horrible, tell me again what he did special? Talk about throwing passes in the dirt. Same for Mahomes. Eagles won that game on D, the 9ers D was smoked. Hurts went 15-25 for 121 yds and a 1 yd rushing td. That’s great td play? Burrows 26-41 270 1 td and 2 ints. If that was Brady Bucs haters would have boiled him in oil. 97% of Mahomes throws were underneath. Cincy played zone left Kelce and Scallding wide open. GRRAT separation. Pu@#y, I mean Purdy proved he is a child. Mahomes showed him yesterday there is a difference between injured & hurt. I think Shanahan is getting pissed always losing the big game because of QB play. Kyle, meet Tom!!!

  23. Go Bucs Go Says:

    I will take Brady NOW over Hurts, Mahomes, Burrow.
    I will judge when Brady TRULY sucks.

    He had MOST PASS ATTEMPTS this year at 45 year old with this O line. You guys gotta be CRAZY criticizing him unfairly about him playing scared. EVERY QB at SUCH situation will to some degree show skittish tendency as Brady has shown.

    You look back at Brady’s early career when he TOOK REAL SHOT AT HEAD SQUARELY and rose RIGHT BACK ON HIS FEET. No QB today will be able to absorb that kind of vicious hit and stand on his own unconcussed. Brady is TOUGH, man.

    I ask everyone of you here on this forum. Would you choose Mahomes or Hurts over Brady in Super Bowl? I will choose Brady over them on those teams’ rosters. I admire Mahomes and Hurst playing through injuries. BUT THE TEAMS CLEARLY CARRIED THEM.

    Burrow was what… 5 sacks, 2 interceptions (both his faults), no comeback at the end when he had a chance. Yet he who should be at his prime gets nod over 45 year old QB? Pathetic. Hurst running around unlike Brady?!? Did you see how THE BEST OFFENSIVE LINE WAS BLOCKING SO WELL AGAINST FORMIDABLE 49er’s D Line??? Hurts WAS SO BAD in passing game. Purdy…? Out on 6th play. Staying healthy on field is SKILL.

    Brady is 45 years old and obviously needs help around him unlike his heydays. But he does not need everything to be PERFECT around him like some of you complain. Just give him something to work with. He will perform.

    Go Bucs!

  24. Your Mom Says:

    It’s a common thing I think to take the current problem you just had and see how a prospective hire would have addressed it. I’m not sure you can read a whole lot more into that, except that the team wants ingenuity and flexibility.

  25. sasquatch Says:

    The desperation is heavy if this is what they’re pulling to lure Brady back.

  26. NEfan Says:

    Go Bucs@ I am a huge Brady fan but I have to say Mahomes would be my first choice, Hurts isn’t even in the running.

  27. Simeon97 Says:

    But what reputable potential oc would take the job not knowing Brady plan?

  28. beano Says:

    NEmasshole Says: “beanblo, what did you see yesterday”

    I saw a third year quarterback, who played at a non-NFL-quarterback college, who sucked his rookie year with a 33.8 RTG, who’s going to the Super Bowl because lucky for him he wasn’t drafted by Tampa, where he would have been driven out of town by the idiot fans and the Joes.

  29. mark2001 Says:

    Frankly, I think there is a simple answer to “why this question”. You don’t want an OC that will only want to come here if Brady is here. Sure…most all of them rather have Brady than be out in the wind with Trask or an unknown. But if I’m Licht, I want to hear the OC candidate wants to be here regardless of who the QB is, someone confident they will find a way to build a superior Offense, with our without Brady. Quite frankly, if I heard a guy would only take the job if Brady promised to come back, I’s scratch them off my list of candidates. I think it is a good strategy to separate those you want to discuss things with further and those you don’t

  30. Duane Says:

    Not a smokescreen. The front office knows where Brady is likely to play, and are proceeding accordingly. This is his only dance partner. He did not put out good enough film last season to attract other teams. Still money to be made from his presence, and MAYBE a change in OC and a healthier OLine yields more success. Ball is in his court as it should be because he is taking the very largest of risks with his decision. Biggest story next season- does Brady play this poorly next season, and saves Bowles job by becoming the scapegoat? Sounds like a win/win for Todd.

  31. mark2001 Says:

    Duane…there are at least a handful of teams that would see Brady as an upgrade for at least one year, while they groom a younger guy.. Have you looked at the FA’s we are likely to lose this year? I think your wishful thinking is nice. But not very realistic.

  32. beano Says:

    NEmasshole Says: “beanblo, what did you see yesterday?”

    I saw a late second round quarterback, who played at a non-NFL-quarterback college, who was terrible his rookie year with a 33.8 RTG, now in his third year and going to the Super Bowl, who fortunately for him wasn’t drafted by the Bucs, because the Bucs fans and the Joes would have run him out of Tampa by now.

    What did you see?

  33. NEfan Says:

    SF (Purdy showed true colors yesterday)

    To name a few.

  34. Duane Says:

    Not worried about the FA issues. They will kick the can to retain or acquire players they want, and I can see them moving or moving on from others. The defense will likely get younger, and the offense will likely grow older. It really is the path of least resistance.

  35. stpetebucfan Says:


    As usual I agree with your take.

    As for Brady sucking because of his offensive line, he was the sixth LEAST sacked QB in the league. I get his quick release helping but he was a statue with happy feet. He did NOTHING to help the OL with movement. So IMHO his quick release is a wash with his inability to scramble and his clear concern for his physical safety. BTW Philadelphia has three freaking Pro Bowlers on their OL. Jalen Hurts who admittedly is not afraid to leave the pocket was sacked 13 MORE times than Brady or 33% more. Joe Burrow behind a truly challenged OL because of injuries was sacked more than twice as often as Brady.

    THE OL WAS NOT THE PROBLEM. How about the mobility of a statue and the happy feet of a guy who has taken too many hits. A quick release is no good if the throw is over a receivers head, or at his feet, or behind him.

    I certainly concede that Brady endured a LOT of things this year. I also concede he’s probably going to play better this year than last whether for the Bucs or another team. I’m simply saying he is no longer at GOAT level and probably isn’t a top 10 QB in the league anymore. That is NOT an insult.

    He COULD come back for the Bucs and be a decent QB and if the OL regains it’s health and Mike gets his focus back and CG14 is totally recovered and Lennie and White continue to catch and run and Otton continues his development the Bucs could probably make the playoffs…but again it’s one and done.

    BTW $$$ have absolutely NOTHING to do with where he plays. He’ll make more money in retirement broadcasting and becoming the next Shaq with his face on every commercial! Furthermore Brady to his credit is smart enough to be a TEAM guy and has frequently if not always taken a discount on his earning to help create a solid team.

  36. DJB Says:

    The best quarterback on the field yesterday was Josh Johnson. How did we ever let him get away hahaha

  37. TampaBayBucsFanSince1976 Says:

    Brady is coming back and if you don’t like it-too bad for you. Bigger question is will Gronk return with him and what moves will Licht make to shore up this horrid Oline?

  38. geno711 Says:

    I have always felt that Brady to Tampa next year was a 15% possibility.

    Greater than:

  39. Craig Says:

    Brady looked like he wasn’t into the game last season. He rushed plays and didn’t take the time to run through his progressions.

    It wasn’t because of the line, Cincinnati had a worse line and was three points away from the Stupor Bowl. The play calling had a lot to wish for, but Brady could have audibled past that, but he chose not to.

    If Brady comes back, he might end up being benched by mid season, so I think he will be more of a distraction than an asset. It just delays the needed rebuild and might keep us from drafting a late round QB, because Brady really doesn’t like competition in the QB slot.

  40. NEfan Says:

    stp & Craig, did any of those teams that played yesterday not have a running game? What is so hard to understand? NO Qb will be successful without a running game.

  41. Goatfarmer Says:

    beanblow, besides causing a lot of nasty flatulence and an irrational love for Kyle’s Trashk, is a site troll that types a lot of words trying to seem smart. He fails.

  42. Crickett Baker Says:

    I wish Brady would come back for another year or two with the Bucs and we get a great OC. I tend to doubt both but I didn’t pick a winner this weekend. I desperately hope Todd isn’t having the final say on who we hire as OC because I have no confidence that he is capable of knowing who is good. I truly believe Brady would stack up fine against any other QB playing now if the rest of the team was “all-in” and the play calling was innovative. Brady has rarely missed a game because of injury or illness in 23 years.

  43. Paul Says:

    Do you think Brady could have scooted for that first down (ala Mahomes – on a bad ankle) at the end of the game?

  44. Marine Buc Says:

    The NFL just set the salary cap at $224.8 million.

    I believe the Bucs can restructure 6-7 contracts and gain about $45M-$50M…

    We can cut a few players – Brate, Succop and D. Smith and save another $16M

    Our draft will cost @ $7.5M and we have 9 picks (3 are 7th rounders).

    If Brady comes back we can sign a few free agents like LVD, Dean, Jones, Hicks (saving another $16M in dead cap) and a new LT and we are in reload mode.

    There are about 15 free agents I would bring back at @ $1.5M – $2M each. Guys like C. Nassib and N. Leverett. Back ups/rotational players/special teamers… That will cost @ $25M-$30M,,,

    And that would complete the “reload” process.

  45. DJB Says:

    NE Fan: No kidding, all of them have excellent running games. WTH do they find these guys?

  46. Redeemer Says:

    One way or the other, I think Brady will let them know soon. He knows if he doesn’t come back, it drastically changes their off-season plans. Some of you here must’ve been dropped as babies. Those sideways passes were their running game. Brady had a bottom three line according to next gen. He also ran an offense that relied on his recievers winning individual matchups. That’s fine when you have last year’s roster.
    On the chiefs/Bengals. Cinci had that game won. Why you take two deep shots with 7 minutes left is beyond me. KC was on the ropes. Then they punt it in bounds with 40 seconds left. Hubris lost that game.

  47. Rod Munch Says:

    Seems like you’d ask anything you can think of – I don’t think this is a tell one way or another.

  48. RustyRhinos Says:

    Hey Stpete, Planks are your friend in getting that 6pack at an older age. They are not too hard on the rest of the body and they can be done anywhere. Always great to read your posts. Keep it up. You can get there.

    46-year-old QBs do not get faster or want to take that hit they took at 26 or 36. Their bodies do not overcome that beating like they used to. When is it time to call it a career? I guess as long as some team pays the price.

    When will the kicking the can down the road catch up to our team? It is really close this off-season. Maybe we will keep kicking it until Brady reaches 50 and is still wanting to play, I get it Football is his life. And Brady is the GOAT. But we all hit that moment in life and it happens instantly for some that you can no longer do what you love like you used to. Time to be thankful for the memories and all the great things Brady brought to the Buccaneers. Move on. Will it be difficult? Yes, it will be Brady is the GOAT. Is it necessary? I again say yes it is.
    Either way win or lose, Brady or the next QB up, I will be a Buccaneer Fan.

    Go!!!!!!! Bucs!!!!!!!!

  49. beano Says:

    Goathumper, thanks for your stoopid response. It confirms my first impression of you.

  50. fred Says:

    I’m willing to bet Brady already knew this before the story came out

  51. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I do believe Brady has more in him. The true question? Can the Bucs give him what he needs to make it so?

    At this stage I do not think so…but things can change, so I’m watching.

    Of course, one of the things Brady needs is a great offensive line, and if he doesn’t come back, Trask will have an easier time with one.

  52. Redeemer Says:

    Rusty, the question is how much of Brady’s “decline” was the result of a terrible line, no run game and no TE. Throw in a really bad coordinator running an antiquated, simplistic offense that was very easy for defenses to figure out. I get it, Brady isnt the QB he once was. IMO given the right situation, he can still perform. No you can’t ask him to win games by himself anymore.

  53. mark2001 Says:

    Rusty… modified planks at a certain age. The shoulders…the elbows…the back. It isn’t so much the things that you would think in your youth that cause some exercises to be difficult. Often it is the damage done to our bodies in our youth.

  54. Big Z Says:

    He will play again,but not for us. SF makes the most sense.
    We need to move on from him. It’s time we develop our own franchise qb. Bowles will be gone next year and we should be in the running for Maye or Williams. QB in the first round gives teams great cap flexibility for other positions. It started with Russ in Seattle and that’s the blueprint. If you don’t hit on one you know it sooner than later and back to the draft again. TB was a job saver for a few years for JL. JL must draft his ass off this draft.

    I would take Mayer from ND. Every time I watched him he balled and bailed out ND. Kelces, Kittles, Gonzalezs, Gronks, and the Gates of the world are match up killers. Vision Mayer and Williams growing up together.

  55. LastDance Says:

    Redeemer – Yes Cinci chose to lose. Poor pass block calls against the one guy who was beating them, too many low percentage plays when it mattered, and dumb punt.

    I think Brady will evaluate himself based on what the issues were. If emotional, injury, and Leftwurst are truly the main issues he’s coming back. If he feels that he cannot physically win a Super Bowl, he will step aside. He cares too much for his body and legacy to play if he isn’t capable. But no one can understand the difficulty of divorce until they are in it. I think it really impacted him. And Leftwurst made sure that they struggled by being the least creative play caller in the entire league.

    Although, I dont think he is as diminished as you are suggesting. A QB only appears to carry a team when they have smart offensive players/receivers who think on the same page. Its easy to carry a team when Amendola and Edelman see the same way you do and adjust. And you have a play caller who uses your strength and creates matchups. Without Godwin and AB last year, he only had Gronk who understood. Without Gronk this year, he only had Godwin and he wasn’t 100% until the last few weeks. After watching yesterday, do you really think Brady couldn’t have taken any of those teams to the SB? I dont think any of the QBs looked very good at all. Burrow played mediocre, Hurst played terrible, Purdy isn’t a tough guy, and Mahomes looked pretty good, but not by his or Brady’s standards. He has a connection with Kelce that makes it hard to understand why other teams dont take him away no matter what… as Belichick did in 2018.

  56. stpetebucfan Says:

    @Rusty and Mark

    Thanks for the tips guys. I’ve read the internet and also get Mens Health.

    Planks are indeed an awesome exercise. If you really want to bust your arse try a plank pull through.

    Get in plank with a dumbbell just outside your right hand. Without letting your hips shift reach through with your left hand and move the dumbbell to your left side…then repeat in the other direction. That’s ONE rep. I’m up to 3 LMAO. It’s beyond a beotch.

  57. Yucs2Bucs Says:

    I’ll take Jordan Love in a heartbeat!!!! That young man when given a chance is going to be very similar to Mahomes !!! Go Yucs, but have to say that game last night along with the questionable refs is making it easier to think the game is rigged. Two black QBs facing off for the first time in the Super Bowl is awesome and also Andy Reid playing his old team builds excitement and sells tickets and bigger audience !!! Dwight Smith still tells me because we spoke this morning and said are you starting to believe me yet ?

  58. Yucs2Bucs Says:

    I’ll take Jordan Love in a heartbeat!!!! That young man when given a chance is going to be very similar to Mahomes !!! Go Yucs, but have to say that game last night along with the questionable refs is making it easier to think the game is rigged. Two Non White QBs facing off for the first time in the Super Bowl is awesome and also Andy Reid playing his old team builds excitement and sells tickets and bigger audience !!! Dwight Smith still tells me because we spoke this morning and said are you starting to believe me yet ?

  59. Yucs2Bucs Says:

    Brady’s first year as a Buc and LA playing in LA is earlier similar to 2020??? I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but when Dwight Smith has been saying the NFL is rigged for the past 10 years of our friendship it makes me wonder especially after these last 2 SBs and that game. Why would my buddy swear by it along with other NFL players ??

  60. NEfan Says:

    Yuc, not sure I’m buying it. So NFL predicted Purdy would be injured same with Johnson? They predicted Chris Jones would man handle Burrows on the final 3rd down sack? They set it up so #58 would hit Mahomes out of bounds giving KC the extra 15 they needed for a FG? A player made a stupid mistake and it possibly cost them a SB. Cincy HC made some bad game management decisions at the end.

  61. Brad Says:

    It’s all a smoke screen. Payton said in an interview that the division wasn’t off limits. if it were Carolina he knew before he said that. the Bucs are acting as if they can’t find someone suitable for Brady and then will
    move in on Payton (the reported mystery team), giving them just cause to fire Bowles. Ownership moves think this often.

    Just wait…

  62. mark2001 Says:

    St. Pete.. just a thought….if the Planks are a little much, you could do the “bird dog” exercise. I like that one…good for back, quads, abdominals, and balance. The planks are fine…but don’t aggravate some old injury.

  63. mark2001 Says:

    St. Pete…if the planks are a little much, the bird dog exercise is a good one. At least from my perspective.

  64. BelleGladeBuc Says:

    On the 3rd and 4 play Mahomes ran for a first down and then was hit late out of bounds and got a personal foul call to put the Chiefs in field goal position to win the game.

    On the same play you will see Hendrickson bend and get the edge only to be blatantly held around his neck and shoulder by the Bengal tackle, and it happened no more than a couple of feet from the white hat.

    It’s obvious offensive holding, just as it was an obvious personal foul. Both obvious penalties should have been called, offset and replay the down.

    That didn’t happen.

    If the refs are flag happy and calling ticky tack PI’s, then obvious calls should be no brainers. The refs only called one of the two obvious flags. Makes you think.

    Also, the white hat ref is the only one who can stop a play. Doesn’t matter what any other official does. If white hat doesn’t call it and stop the play based off of his fellow refs whistle, then what his fellow refs whistle doesn’t count for anything.

    For those who don’t know football, the white hat ref is the only one who can officially stop a play. White hat didn’t stop the play. That’s why the play continued and the scoreboard/clock ref counted the play. If the white hat ref acknowledged the sideline refs whistle and call, he would have blown his whistle, raised his hand, and spoken to the clock ref through his headset, and that didn’t happen. White hat ref watches the other refs and relays their calls or over rules them and the scoreboard ref watches him. That’s how it works.

    Watch the video.

  65. Purplepirate Says:

    “Compare them to Brady’s chuck, and duck pick against Dallas that basically ended the game.”

    Burrow had 2 interceptions. He’s washed.

  66. Snoman Says:

    Paul Says:
    January 30th, 2023 at 1:43 pm
    Do you think Brady could have scooted for that first down (ala Mahomes – on a bad ankle) at the end of the game?

    Brady played a year and won a Superbowl with a torn knee ligament with this Bucs team. It was repaired after the Superbowl and before the 2021 Season. Brady is a tough guy. Von Miller abused him in the AFC Championship game when Manning was there. He took a beating like a 1970s or 198os quarterback. Go watch that game and tell me Brady isn’t tough. He had a torn up throwing hand when he beat the Jags in 2017. Stitches and extreme swelling. Get out of here with your take.

  67. LastDance Says:

    Purplepirate Says:
    January 30th, 2023 at 7:32 pm
    “Compare them to Brady’s chuck, and duck pick against Dallas that basically ended the game.”

    Burrow had 2 interceptions. He’s washed.

    Exactly… So is Allen. They should both retire before they get hurt… behind those shirty offensive lines… Oh wait… everyone looks bad behind shirty offensive lines.

  68. Rpg Says:

    Brady is wasting his time coming back to the Bucs if Bowles is HC.