Browns Seem To Be Circling The Drain

November 21st, 2022

Frustration mounting in Cleveland.

Joe isn’t about to look past the bungling Browns. They play in the AFC North and that division plays largely solid, physical football.

Just look how the Steelers handed the Bucs their arse when the Bucs went up to Pittsburgh last month.

Joe watched the Bills-Browns game yesterday and the Browns have talent. They hung with the Bills for a half before cratering.

Jason Lloyd of The Athletic typed a piece showing he believes Browns players have just about thrown in the towel, at least on defense. Lloyd documented that Browns defensive coordinator Joe Woods is fully over his head, not that he’s getting much help.

It isn’t all Woods’ fault. It’s questionable how many defensive tackles on this team are worthy of an NFL roster spot. That’s general manager Andrew Berry’s fault. Jordan Elliott is a ghost. Taven Bryan is a free-agent bust. Perrion Winfrey spends more time on social media than he does on the field. Tommy Togiai finally hit a quarterback Sunday for the first time in a month and got called for roughing the passer.

It’s so bad, Ben Stille was just signed off Miami’s practice squad on Monday, and he was on the field taking snaps in the second half Sunday. That’s a massive whiff by Berry and this organization for failing to draft and develop competent tackles after moving on from Sheldon Richardson, Larry Ogunjobi, Malik Jackson and Malik McDowell in the last few years (McDowell’s personal problems forced a release).

The linebackers aren’t any better. Deion Jones was supposed to help following a midseason trade with Atlanta, but he was so bad he was benched last week and didn’t play much against the Bills, either. Woods can only work with the ingredients he has, and the Browns didn’t give him much to work with in the front seven.

So what should the Bucs do? Well, that’s a whole lot different than what they will do.

Joe remembers the Steelers were ripe to get lit up by the pass with all of their injuries in the secondary and without T.J. Watt. So what did failing Bucs offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich do? He ran right into the teeth of the Steelers’ defense, which is exactly what Pittsburgh wanted.

So yeah, you would think coming off a 136-rushing yards effort and a bye week, the Bucs would pound the Browns on the ground to take advantage of their weak run defense. But who the hell knows? Leftwich might decide to put the ball in the air 40 times.

26 Responses to “Browns Seem To Be Circling The Drain”

  1. Leopold Stotch Says:

    Jacoby is fighting for his career and Chubb is a dangerous runner. My worry here is Garret and their secondary along with the aforementioned duo and Cooper as well. We need to make the Browns one dimensional. If the boys play as well as they did in Germany, we’ll be fine. Hopefully the team didn’t forget this past week

  2. adam from ny Says:

    early forecast over in cleveland is mid 40’s with possible rain…

    could be a cold muddy muck filled afternoon…

    good opportunity to re-establish what was done in munich…

    establish the running game big time…

    and let the jerseys get dirty

  3. adam from ny Says:

    jacoby brisket will be served up tender on a cool rainy afternoon

  4. Cobraboy Says:


  5. Mr. Editor Says:

    We all know that our beloved Bucs often play down to the competition. Still, I am confident in a win, and then, all will be right in the world!

  6. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    We can’t look for other teams’ failures….but look for our strengths….it’s time for us to win…..

  7. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    We can’t underestimate anyone……time to step up.

  8. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    I watched the Browns hang with the Bills an entire half!
    We need a win to stay in first place, and I think we will get one.
    Especially if we play like we have been playing

  9. John Olmstead Says:

    The media class of a team that lost to Mitchell Trubisky and PJ Walker has no business describing another team as circling the drain.

  10. Your Mom Says:

    They’ll run the only page of the playbook that didn’t get eaten by Leftwich’s dog, running up the 1-hole.

  11. Defense Rules Says:

    Cobraboy … ‘Trap’.

    I agree with you Cobra. Go back to the comments that were made about the Panthers (they whooped us 21-3) and the Steelers (beat us 20-18) and all I remember was folks saying how bad they were. Karma strikes again? Never underestimate your opponent.

    Cleveland has a potent running attack & a decent passing attack. Their defense has been suspect, especially in these last 3 weeks when they lost to the Bengals, Dolphins & Bills, BUT … ALL 3 of those teams have very good offenses. Cleveland’s defense did however limit the Bengals the game before those 3 losses to 13 points in a solid win. On any given Sunday any NFL team can beat any other NFL team.

  12. tbbucs3 Says:

    If we scored 3 points against the Panthers, anything is on the table..

  13. Goatfarmer Says:

    Is Logan Ryan’s foot cleat worthy yet? His presence on the field would help the defense improve as the game goes on, dude sees opposing offenses kind of like Tom sees opposing defenses.

    On offense, Tom just needs to pat the masturmind Boron on the head and say “Ya, sure” and then call the best play himself.

  14. Panhandle Buc Says:

    Our team hasn’t proved they can win the games they SHOULD…so I will hold off excitement untill they do! BL enept playcalling is a big reason…

  15. PewterStiffArm Says:

    Uh, just wait until we play them and leave with a W, until then let’s not let this hype get to us. Remember it is cold and uncomfortable up in Cleveland right now.

  16. Mike Johnson Says:

    These are the kinds of games our Bucs should win but never do. Those 2-point losses to the Steelers and packers will come back to bit us in the rear end. We should beat the Browns. Coming off of a bye we should be ready. No excuses. But watch us struggle mightily

  17. DG060 Says:

    I’m still furious at Leftwich’s stupid call on the Lenny to Brady disaster in Germany. This moron just keeps calling the most asinine plays I’ve ever seen.
    Bruce Ariens throwing TB12 under the bus to protect his little protege is nothing short of pathetic. Time for him to go retire again.

  18. firethecannons Says:

    I was impressed with the Browns running game, Chubb looks like a challenge to keep down, we need to come out on fire and ready to score points, anymore of the the stalling offense will get this team beat. Defense will wear out early and we seen it every game except #1 and the last one. Either they come to play and focus or we lose, simple as that, there is no more leeway now–we lose the division if we lose–Falcons on our ass, there will be no wildcard for nfc south.

  19. Rod Munch Says:

    So the Bucs should take their weakness, of not being able to run the ball, and try to use it to exploit Clevelands weakness of run defense…

    That sounds like you’re pitting two losers against each, which just ends with some really bad and boring football.

  20. Jimothy Says:

    Rod Munch,

    I’ll take a boring, sloppy win over an exciting loss any day of the week.

  21. Will Says:

    DG060 so are you saying Brady was playing great? I agree that BL has been making dumb calls but to say Brady didn’t need to be called out isn’t true BA should’ve also called BL out for not adjusting to the personnel he had on the field. That’s the only issue I have with BA.

  22. Goatfarmer Says:

    Cleveland is a physical, dangerous, and wounded animal. Brissett is very hard to sack. Chubb is a RB extraordinaire and more experienced than the Seahag rookie. And they have Garrett and Clowney on the edges. This matchup looks tougher to me than the Seahags, and I’m frightened when I check and see who is still the Bucs offensive coordinator.

  23. captivajim Says:

    Browns cannot & should not be taken lightly.. Chubb is as good a runner as we’ve faced this yr …the weather will be in their favor –especially if its raining ..

  24. NEfan Says:

    So were the Bucs.

  25. Panhandle Buc Says:

    DG060: The Leftwich special” was idiotic and timing was even worse…we were moving the ball VERY well and that damn near crushed our momentum! He is my far our WEAKEST link. I am with you…still irritated too!

  26. Goatfarmer Says:

    So to summarize…….Tom Brady must humor His Leftworthlessness and then call what the situation actually calls for. And get the Big 4WRs on the field at the same time with Lenny and run hurry up.