Tom Brady Doesn’t Get Roughing The Passer Calls And He Wants You To Know It
October 11th, 2022
Joe often has written and said that Tom Brady is the ultimate calculated communicator.
Nothing is random when Brady is in front of the media.
That brings Joe to Brady’s weekly Let’s Go! show on SiriusXM Mad Dog Radio.
Joe is a loyal listener to the pre-recorded affair, and last night host Jim Gray rolled out a bunch of stats when asking Brady about Sunday’s controversial roughing-the-passer penalty on Falcons defensive tackle Grady Jarrett.
Keep in mind this isn’t the kind of data easily found on Google or at Pro Football Reference.
Grady told Brady he drew one roughing the passer call in 2021 and none in 2019, his final year in New England. And Gray said since joining the Bucs, Brady ranks 16th in the NFL when it comes to benefiting from roughing the passer penalties.
But Gray wasn’t finished. He said since 2010, roughing was called 2.1 percent of the time Brady is sacked, among the lowest rates for NFL quarterbacks.
The goal was clear. Gray was set up to implode the exploding national narrative that Brady gets all the calls and is protected by NFL officials. Gray did the talking and Brady, right on cue, downplayed the whole thing by saying he doesn’t throw the flags, he only throws tablets.
The men executed the script well.
Joe laid out more evidence yesterday that Brady got screwed on a shot to the face by Von Miller that left him bloody during January’s playoff game. No foul called.
Regardless, many will claim the refs go easy on Brady, which is ridiculous. And Brady wants you to know it.
The team Tom Brady is playing against has benefited from roughing the passer calls more than he has (61 total for Brady in his 368 starts, 71 for his opponents)
Source: @pfref pic.twitter.com/8fLapg1hQZ
— Tom Brady Facts (@TB_Facts) October 11, 2022
October 11th, 2022 at 2:45 pm
Irv CoughMan ™️ is outraged…and Drew Brees wants an explanation.
October 11th, 2022 at 2:47 pm
Brady & the Bucs in general don’t get calls…….especially DPI calls……Muggable, Huggable, Scotty Miller…..& Beastly Mike Evans are always interfered with.
October 11th, 2022 at 2:57 pm
Losers always whine about the refs. Winners go home and politely hug the prom queen.
Suh.
October 11th, 2022 at 3:02 pm
OBJ , & SUH
October 11th, 2022 at 3:09 pm
SUHSUHSUHSUHSUHSUHSUHSUHSUHSUHSUHSUHSUHSUHSUHSUHSUHSUH
October 11th, 2022 at 3:18 pm
We are missing JPP’s heart and Suh’s professionalism.
We needed them for 1 more year as we slowly develop JTS and Hall.
October 11th, 2022 at 3:21 pm
Add calculated communicator to his lengthy list of monikers, LOL.
I wonder if that will serve him well when he moves to the commenting booth, or will it make him a dud of a sportscaster?
October 11th, 2022 at 3:24 pm
The Bucs need to send the data and analysis to the league officiating office. Just in case. Because that office is a full-on dumpster fire.
October 11th, 2022 at 3:37 pm
As a Bucs fan, I’ve watched Tom’s career from afar. I’m a Michigan man and I’ve always been a big Brady fan. I’ve found Patriots’ fans to be one of the most insufferable fan base, especially when it came to Brady, but now I see up close why they’re so fiercely defensive when it comes to him. The outrage from the media, fans, and players have been outrageous. The double standard when it comes to coverage of Brady than others is obvious. Carr had an egregious roughing the passer call last night and there was some grumbling, but nothing on the scale of the attention the Brady call got.
When you cite these stats about the lack of roughing the passer calls, people don’t care. It’s all confirmation bias. They move the goal posts constantly. In his 23 year career, people cite maybe 5-6 favorable calls. It’s also not like he’s been the only beneficiary of questionable calls.
People will say well he gets the ball out so quickly that’s why he doesn’t get the roughing calls. Well, if there was some vast conspiracy to help Tom, the refs would find a way to throw a flag regardless of his fast release. There’s also QBs with faster releases who get more roughing calls. The man threw the 700x times last year, and only got ONE roughing call. It’s just baffling that no one cares about facts. I once read an article about a phenomenon called “Brady Derangement Syndrome.” I see it up close and personal now as a Bucs fan.
October 11th, 2022 at 3:46 pm
There are always going to be those that want to tear down people who reach the summit. The Brady haters aren’t going to care about the stats, they just want to hate on the guy. I never really understood that mentality. Whether someone plays for your team or not, when you know you’re watching greatness just appreciate that you’re around to watch it. Just like in the 1990s with Michael Jordan.
October 11th, 2022 at 3:52 pm
@D-Rok. I think he will actually make a pretty good analyst. He had no problem commenting about bad football in the league, and he speaks passionately about football, and we know his football IQ is next level. I believe last year he called out Justin Fields for a missed protection call. I don’t think he will PC on the air
October 11th, 2022 at 4:06 pm
My take is that the ref determined that rather than riding Brady down, he slung him into the ground needlessly. The very definition of “unnecessary”!!! Brady is not a running WB who fights till the final second to escape, he takes the sack and moves on. Had this been one of those elusive QBs who are constantly escaping the grasp of a defender, one could have made the case that the final twist and slam was “necessary. Let’s move on, it wasn’t an outrageous call, and I would argue that it had merit.
October 11th, 2022 at 4:16 pm
Captain Dan- A lot more meat on that bone than the Belly Bump called on the Vita Monster!
October 11th, 2022 at 4:29 pm
Irma Krautman would like a public apology issued from the Brady and the entire Bucs organization and for the Bucs to forfeit the next game with Crylanta .
October 11th, 2022 at 4:36 pm
This issue is being blown way out of proportion. The ref explained the call and why he made it. Every whiny NFL type has been the beneficiary of such a call at one point in their careers.
October 11th, 2022 at 4:54 pm
I wish we can give this roughing thing a rest. It is clear, as Bowles said, the league is enforcing the roughing the QB rules on the books now. This was clearly demonstrated last night in chiefs raiders debacle. That roughing call they gave to Carr was atrocious! Full body weight tackle on the QB is in the books. Yet they are just now calling it this year. The whip call on Brady, and in London are on the books. Tua’s whip call on the books. Geeze it is obvious what the league’s orders are to the refs. Protect the QB!!!! What no one is talking about is what these rules are doing to pro football. For example, I almost fell out of my chair last night when the raiders got their hands on mahomes in the first quarter and rather than tackling him they held him until the ref blew the whistle!!!!! what did I just see???? Holy crap they really are turning the NFL into Flag Football!!!
The complaints are not for the refs they are for Goodell one of the biggest pos on the planet. A globalists woke traitor who has done more to damage the NFL and the image of our country than any other commissioner!! Now he is talking about setting up a new conference in Europe. Take more money out of American Cities, great idea roger!!! POS!!!
October 11th, 2022 at 5:57 pm
It’s amazing the amount of outrage one Reddit off this. If you mention that PI before it you get whining about the holding call before that (from what I saw the db did wrap his arms briefly around Evans as he was already going past him). You say reffing was bad all around they had a couple bad spots that lead to turnover in downs. And then it’s at least they can challenge those (think we did challenge one and they still got it wrong)
October 11th, 2022 at 6:04 pm
Also there is the fact the BS call on Sunday vs the Falcons was clearly a makeup call for the completely BS non-call on the PI that literally took place one play before this. The Bucs got screwed in the exchange as they should have had the ball at the Falcons 10 yard line, and would have been forced to run an additional play and almost certainly would have, at the very least, kicked a FG and covered (and almost certainly, down by 9, the Falcons turn it over on the last drive and problem the Bucs run it up by scoring on a return fumble or INT).
October 11th, 2022 at 6:12 pm
It’s a click bait world. Fake outrage sells.
October 11th, 2022 at 6:32 pm
@KentuckyBuc. The amount of engagement Brady gets just because of his name is insane. TMZ posted an article about how Brady just stood and looked while the fan ran was running on the field yesterday. What did they want him to do? The video of the bogus RTP call with Carr isn’t generate nearly as much as the Brady video.
October 11th, 2022 at 7:01 pm
Man football is water down now high school and College football is becoming better than the NFL. That’s why all this Brady being the goat is a media narrative. Steve Young said he wish he would have played in today’s football because his career would have been longer. You can’t go get those quarterbacks in the pass to play today so no one knows who’s the best.
October 11th, 2022 at 7:15 pm
Brady gives up.
October 11th, 2022 at 7:19 pm
TBBF is sick and tired of hearing about this bad call….move the Fock on!!!
October 11th, 2022 at 7:23 pm
I give OneilBuc a lot of grief…some of it actually deserved :)…but he’s right on the money here. Elway may have been the most enjoyable QB to watch at least for me. He got killed out there…lit up. He was hobbled and couldn’t go for a 3-peat at age 38.
October 11th, 2022 at 8:18 pm
I agree with you, for once, Oneil. I loved watching me some Young back in the day, even tho I still think the 9ers did Montana dirty by trading him to Chiefs, LOL. Maybe this is why I can’t stand the Chiefs all these decades later, ha ha.
I grew up watching Bradshaw, Montana, Rice, Ronnie Lott, Lynch, Lewis…in other words, watching real football. The product we see on the field this year, is football per se, but yet it’s not. Not the same, and I don’t feel the same watching now vs a few decades ago.
#NotTheNFLIGrewUpOn
October 11th, 2022 at 8:26 pm
Getting the ball out quicker probably leads to less sacks. I’m courious to know what the relationship of QBs getting sacked vs roughing the passer. Not saying Brady gets all the calls, just an observation. The broadcasters seem to think the refs got it wrong when Brady tried to hurry and snap it on fourth and goal and was not allowed. Brady seems to know the rules better than the refs.
October 11th, 2022 at 8:28 pm
PS: However, Oneil, I must strongly disagree with you on one point: that you state the media narrative is that Brady is the GOAT. I think you will find that history will overwhelmingly demonstrate that Brady is by far, BY FAR, the best QB to ever play. Best athlete/GOAT? Now that’s slightly debatable, but Brady is so superior in every single category that one dream up for a QB, that it isn’t a debate. Whether Brady is the best athlete in any sport, now that it’s a debate that won’t die soon. Nevertheless,
He’s the GOAT QB.
October 11th, 2022 at 8:51 pm
We all see the leg kicks when he does go down lol come on Shady your getting old lol
October 11th, 2022 at 8:54 pm
Bucsfan13, the reason the Carr roughing penalty didn’t blow up, is because the Chiefs won. Carr no longer was a QB. The ball had been stripped and recovered by the defender. The league is lying through their teeth by saying this isn’t a reaction to Tua. I’m a huge Brady fan too, but the roughing call on Grady Jarrett was horrible. If anything, Brady should’ve been flagged for trying to kick him in his privates. The Joe’s can pull up any stat they want, it doesn’t change anything. Remember the Chris Jones phantom roughing on Brady in the playoffs? For Christ sake, they made up a rule in Brady’s name about going low. Please!! I’m all in favor of protecting QBs. But you can’t tell me with a straight face that Brady hasn’t benefitted from roughing calls, in the biggest games.
October 11th, 2022 at 8:58 pm
BTW, that fake interview Brady does with creepy Jim Gray is laughable. Brady gets and approves the questions in advance. They have dinner with Oprah together, and Gray pretends he’s a journalist. He’s a jock sniffing nerd who should’ve been an undertaker.
October 11th, 2022 at 8:59 pm
True, Brady hasn’t needed many roughing calls nor has he made any deal about many over the course of his career. But that doesn’t excuse the fact that this last one wasn’t roughing, nor does it excuse his kicking Jarrett and begging for a flag.
The larger problem of them “enforcing the new Tua Rule”, which is what they should call it, is that it the corporates have killed football. No sacks. No pass defending. No tackling. Can’t even graze someone with part of your helmet. WTH is that? Flag football, live action video game, pandering to newbies.
October 11th, 2022 at 10:11 pm
@Reedemer. He’s played for 23 years of course he’s gonna get some favorable. calls. Provide me with data that shows he’s been given any more preferential treatment than any other QB, and the low hit rule was actually prompted by the Carson Palmer look it up. And I’m in no defending the egregious RTP on Jarrett. It was flat out bad. I think people are creating a specific narrative around Brady based on emotions and not facts. Finally, the stretch kick wasn’t cool. He did the same thing to Reed. I’m not defending his actions.
October 11th, 2022 at 10:22 pm
Brady is the only QB in the entire history of the NFL who has been the beneficiary of a favorable call or no call. It’s absolutely amazing. That’s another feather in his cap. Two weeks ago, Chris Jones was penalized late in the game for allegedly saying some mean words to Matt Ryan. I’m sure Brady sent a memo to the refs to call penalties as much as possible on Jones. Matter of fact, I’m sure Brady told the refs to call that RTP on Jones last night to take the heat off his RTP call. Going back further, it was Brady who instructed the refs to hose the Saints with the no call PI against the Rams. The oh powerful Brady is the master puppeteer.
Brady and Boger have secretly conspired to make sure Brady makes it to the SB. Brady also instructed Boger to call the phantom RTP for Josh Allen last week. Brady played golf and therefore Allen should get the same favorable calls.
October 11th, 2022 at 11:43 pm
Few, if any, of you “old school” cats have watched football longer than me. I think its funny that you prefer to watch your favorite players be subjected to life-altering physical injury in the name of manly football. Like the offing Romans in the Coliseum. Watch MMA for godsake. There is still beauty in well-played football and a lot fewer people with permanent brain damage. Like those of you who insist on more violence. Thats being part of the problem of humanity instead of the solution.
October 12th, 2022 at 1:19 am
Preach ForReal!
October 12th, 2022 at 1:36 am
If anyone listened to Brady’s pudcast, and I’m hoping Jason LIcht and Todd’s Bowel and The Idiot Leftwich listened — he is begging for some help at left guard because Grady Jarrett — and anyone else for that matter — simply owns Goedeke on too many plays. Pass? Run? Goedeke doesn’t discriminate. He gets blown up on both too often for a super bowl aspiring team. And yet The Idiot Leftwich keeps insisting on running Lenny right into him when he’s already two yards in the backfield because he’s getting mauled.
Instead of making a signing or trade for some other sexy skill player who will be injured getting off the airplane in TPA, how about boosting the capability and talent in the trenches? LG would be a nice place to start. C might help . Maybe a run stopping veteran to stand next to Vita who seems to have the stamina of a 3pack-a-day smoker running a marathon. Maybe someone competent to spell Diva White, who should be given some time on the sideline to get over being bored.
October 12th, 2022 at 2:51 am
I think it is hilarious that in the MMA and Boxing no one cares about concussions, but for some reason the NFL has to…. and I can’t figure out for the life of me why.
October 12th, 2022 at 6:08 am
@Goatfarmer Bingo! Brady didn’t mention Goedeke, but you can read between the lines. I listened to it again and pulled up some quotes. “This morning, I was looking around the corner everywhere for Grady Jarrett jumping out and hitting me again,”
“He played such a good game against us , and I had nightmares last night kind of thinking about it. But I’m glad we’re through that game and glad we won.”
Do those quotes sound like a man that’s confident with his LG? Look, the North Korea style propaganda that’s going around by Licht and Bowles is amazing. Anyone with eyes can see this guy is a liability. Brady doesn’t need him to be an all pro. He just needs to the guy to at least be competent. Hainsey has done a decent enough job stepping up for Jensen. Goedeke just simply isn’t ready. Brandon Thorn is an OL/DL film analyst who I consider very credible said Goedeke’s play has been below average. He’s had more bad reps than good reps.
I’ll never forget what Wirfs said Brady told him in his first meeting after he was drafted. He said, “Don’t get beat fast and don’t get beat inside and we’ll be alright.” Wirfs said he took the message seriously and it definitely showed in his play.
Licht and the coaches seem to be happy with Goedeke and that’s what matters right now. Brady also sounded frustrated discussing missed assignments and lack of trust. He also called the team soft without saying those words. I highly suggest posters listen to it. It was one of the more harshest podcasts I’ve heard from him. Red flags were flying everywhere during that podcast. Gray isn’t the best, but Brady is usually more detailed and candid than he is with his press conference.
October 12th, 2022 at 8:51 am
dont get me started on the DPI non calls against the bucs?? Our receivers get abused week in and out. Screw the Falcons, about time we got over and got a cheap call.
October 12th, 2022 at 11:25 am
Hey Mike C. I do care about concussions in MMA and boxing. More so in boxing. In MMA they don’t sustain nearly the amount of head trauma they do in boxing. Your point is well taken, However what I really meant was take your need for injury out of the game as much as possible. It’s basically impossible to take injury out of professional fighting. Those guys are trained to injure. It is no longer necessary or needed in football. The back in my day crowd needs to grow up a little.
October 12th, 2022 at 11:27 am
13 — I remember Wirfs discussing Brady’s advice. Goedeke’s problem being a guard is, even if he gets beat outside it’s still inside. It’s sure great that he’s the softest spot in an OL that can’t gain a yard on 3rd or 4th and short, although some of that is due to the soft eggplant calling plays from the sideline.
October 12th, 2022 at 12:52 pm
Look if we are going to be savages, just be savages and stop pretending we care about anything that happens to these people who choose a dangerous line of work to entertain. I am not a “back in my day crowd ” people who choose a dangerous profession to help save people’s life is where I will place my concerns, as for rich entertainment, they willingly signed up for the risk.
October 12th, 2022 at 12:55 pm
And how much do you REALLY care about concussions in boxing and MMA…… give me a break dude.
October 12th, 2022 at 7:03 pm
Man look either you play the game or you don’t those guys are forced to play football and they know all the risk . Just like most people don’t box because of the risk that you can lose your life by being a boxer. So either you do it or you don’t. I’m tired of all these rules in football and my son has been playing since he was 5 years old and he’s in high school now playing tackle football. And I told him the same thing either you play or you don’t.
October 14th, 2022 at 4:26 am
As in most things in the world its about the money. The NFL is only concerned about the well being of players if it threatens the bottom line of owners or the NFL.