Ira Kaufman’s 10 Takeaways From Bucs-Panthers

October 23rd, 2022

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There’s only one question left to ponder. WATGT.

What are the Glazers thinking?

At the moment, they have to be thinking they made a mistake sliding Todd Bowles into the head coach position instead of pursuing other options. There’s plenty of time for Bowles to restore the confidence of ownership, but four losses in five games has eroded his credibility with the fan base — and perhaps with his players.

It’s hard to imagine a worse two weeks in Buc history, considering the expectations for this team and the quality of the opponents. Tampa Bay just lost to a pair of floundering franchises armed with backup quarterbacks.

The Bucs never led in either game — and Sunday’s effort was particularly alarming. Carolina owner David Tepper is probably stewing about his team’s 21-3 victory because the Panthers are angling for a top draft pick.

They came into Bank of America Stadium with the league’s worst record and walked out within one game of the NFC South lead. That’s how Twilight Zone this division finds itself, with four teams combining for a 10-18 record.

It’s the only saving grace for a Buc club that once again exhibited little passion or focus against an inferior foe. Through seven games, they have yet to reach the end zone in an opening quarter. Hopefully, Byron Leftwich spent the entire trip home from Charlotte dwelling on that travesty.

They can’t run the football and they can’t convert a third down. They can’t find a way to get chunk plays and the play-calling lacks imagination and nerve.

Other than that, this offense is in fine shape.

There’s too much pressure on a defense that caused Carolina to punt on six of its first seven possessions, including five 3-and-outs. Eventually, an injury-ravaged defense buckled.

Let’s not lose sight of the real issue at One Buc Place … a Tom Brady-led attack that has topped 21 points once all season.

The back of Brady’s helmet contained a message: inspire change.

Thousands of Buc fans are chanting in unison — damn right.

Here’s how a bad football team embarrassed the visitors and dropped Tampa Bay below .500 for the first time since Brady lost his Buc debut in the 2020 season opener.

* Rush defense has fallen off sharply without Ndamukong Suh and Sunday was no exception. D’Onta Foreman looked like Chuck Foreman, combining with Chuba Hubbard to average 7.5 yards per carry. Before Foreman ripped off a 60-yard dash, his longest NFL run had been 39 yards. And here come the run-heavy Ravens off a short week.

* Buc fans are wondering what would have happened if Mike Evans hadn’t dropped that potential 64-yard TD pass on the game’s third snap. Here’s the grim truth — the Bucs would have lost 21-10. Yes, they were that bad all afternoon. As predicted, Evans was targeted 15 times after last week’s disappearing act.

* That long ball to Evans was an outlier because Brady keeps throwing short, hoping for yards after the catch. It ain’t happening, people. Evans averaged 10.7 yards per reception, with Chris Godwin clocking in at 6.1 and Russell Gage at 9.8. What gives? It’s not like Brady is under siege. Go deep or go home.

* Carolina’s TD drives covered 80, 77 and 75 yards. That’s not acceptable against a team that just traded its best offensive weapon. You know your team is in trouble when Bowles utters the word “bust” more often than a Vegas blackjack dealer.

* The one thing you can say about the Buc ground game is it’s consistent. Leonard Fournette and Rachaad White combined to average 3 yards per carry. Sounds about right.

* Tampa Bay ranked fifth last year with a 44.8 percent conversion rate on third down. Those days are over. During the past two weeks, Brady and company faced 26 third-down situations and failed on 22 of them.

* The only time the Bucs registered a gain of more than 20 yards came when Brady found Cade Otton for 35 yards. Meanwhile, the offensively challenged Panthers reeled off five snaps that gained more than 20 yards. And you wonder why Buc fans stocked up on TUMS Sunday evening.

* The Bucs have scored fewer points than the Washington Commanders this season. Think about that.

* Sunday’s game won’t be included in Donovan Smith’s 2022 highlight-film tape.

* Bowles says he prefers sarcasm rather than getting in the face of his players. Memo to the head coach: sarcasm isn’t working.

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171 Responses to “Ira Kaufman’s 10 Takeaways From Bucs-Panthers”

  1. adam from ny Says:

    rock bottom:

    /ˈˌräk ˈbädəm/
    at the lowest possible level.
    “rock-bottom prices”
    the lowest possible level.
    “morale is at rock bottom”

  2. adam from ny Says:

    ira let’s be realistic…

    it is getting worse week by week since BA threw a tirade on the sidelines in new orleans, and evans got kicked out of the game – as the team came to life and seized victory in new orleans…

    since then it’s worse and worse each week…as they work to get better, they inevitably get worse each week

  3. Tiny Dungy Says:

    Bring back BA

  4. Darin Says:

    Sarcasm isn’t working is right. They need someone to light a fire and keep it burning. Seems it won’t be Bowles. Doubt the glazers want to waste what could be Brady’s last season. Do something now sarcasm isn’t working!

  5. Yucs2Bucs Says:

    Sources tell NFL Network that #Buccaneers QB Tom Brady is absolutely beside himself in the locker room right now. He just yelled, “I GAVE UP MY FAMILY FOR THIS?” then threw a chair in a fit of rage, which hit a ball boy. The ball boy is unconscious. Oh my goodness.

  6. Kstoges Says:

    Fire Byron

  7. BFFL Says:

    Gboys should of conducted a HC search when Brady forced BAs retirement

  8. MadMax Says:

    its simple really….now we know what the players only meeting was about! Its pretty obvious. Oh well, rebuild after some coaching changes. All good.

  9. JimmyfromNY Says:

    Any of you morons blaming Brady or absolutely clueless. Every game he misses a few throws but tell me a quarterback in football that doesn’t. Is it his all world WR drops a ball that high school kids catch, Otton falls over his feet on a big fourth-down play, or Chris Godwin and Russell cage can’t break a tackle. The off line is atrocious, the play CALLER even worse. Brady still throwing dimes all over the field. For chrissake Scotty Miller got knocked down by a ball 3 yards back. Embarrassing

  10. ElioT Says:

    They’re making that last super bowl look like a mirage.

    This team is garbage.

    No killer instinct.

    Can’t get right even with all this “talent”.

    This loss is inexcusable. Period!

    **** this ******* “team”!!!!!!!!!!

  11. CrackWise Says:

    IRA is a sell out.

    FIRE IRA with the rest of the Bucs leadership.


    Heck, SELL THE TEAM, Tampa does not deserve an NFL Team.


    You only have to go back a decade or so ago to remember.



  12. BUCkleup Says:


    Not wasting my time for these cash checking clowns. Stealing from the fans.


    No men on the team.

  13. PassingThru Says:

    Few to no yards after catch. The LBs don’t respect the run so they’re in pass coverage. The short to intermediate area of the field is now well-covered, leading to greater separation challenges for the receivers and less YAC.

    This is what happens when you trot out a third-rate O Line.

  14. CrackWise Says:

    We will score 40 against the RAVENs.


  15. BUCkleup Says:


  16. T REX Says:

    Brady retired…then unretired and it’s been bad since

  17. Todd Says:

    Ira, will you please ask Bowles, “Coach, has the swelling gone down on Jensen’s knee yet so you can get an x-ray?”

    PLEASE ask him that.

    With a hint of sarcasm in your voice.

    Asking for a friend.

    Thanks in advance.

  18. HC Grover Says:

    Bradys wife and Gronk knew this was going to happen with teses coaches. They will blame the players

  19. BUCkleup Says:

    What a garbage, POS team. Several POS performances put together. Losers.

    Loser coaches. Loser assistants.

    Glad they checks cash. You are Frauds.

    Texans and us. Dead on arrival

  20. Eric Says:

    Dark days are back my friends, and could be here to stay.

  21. BucsFan81 Says:

    Brady lost his family and now his final year will look like a joke. The part that sucks for Bucs fans is if this was going to be the end result we could have already started the process of a rebuild. Now we wasted a year in the re building process.

  22. SKBucsFan Says:

    Licht is as much to blame as anyone. He let Bowles slide in as head coach. The Glazers should give him a choice. Bowles and Leftwich or him!
    Personally I’d be okay with all 3.

  23. BUCkleup Says:

    Wait till we get our asses kicked by the Ravens.


  24. Byedon Leftbitch Says:

    Trade away the team right now. Get as many draft picks as you can and build for the future. Team is gonna be dismantled anyways after this season so you mine as well.

    Bowles and leftbitc* need to be canned tonight when they land back in Tampa

  25. BUCkleup Says:

    Todd, you suck. Byron, you are a riptide of suck. And the defense is a joke too.

    Shame we can’t man up like our hockey or baseball team.


  26. DoooshLaRue Says:

    If you understand how this team usually works then you know we should be better against the Ravens.
    We like to get beat by the really bad teams.

    It must be some kinda fetish like getting your balls stomped by a hooker.

  27. gotbbucs Says:

    No, Leonard Fournette had 8 carries for 19 yards, Rachaad White had 6 carries for 24 yards. Big difference. One averaged 2 ypc, the other averaged 4.

    Don’t lump White’s carries into Fournette’s heartless carries. We won’t truly find out a final answer on the running game until they let Fournette sit and watch for a while and let someone who cares get the brunt of the touches.

  28. Pewter Power Says:

    ‘Tis game is going to be ugly Thursday without Winfield. No way he comes back from a concussion on a short week and no Logan Ryan 3-5 here we come

  29. SufferingSince76 Says:

    I sure am glad they had that players-only meeting.

  30. CrackWise Says:

    At LEAST we are not the Yankees that are about to get swept out the playoffs………

    OR the Lighning that GOT swept out the Playoffs….

    Wait, thats just SPORTS, right?

  31. BUCkleup Says:


  32. Whoolio? Says:

    CrackWise Says:
    October 23rd, 2022 at 5:53 pm
    We will score 40 against the RAVENs.


    Are you smoking the first part of you’re name?

  33. William Walls Says:

    Get rid of Licht???

    Keep the crazy on the football field, guys.

  34. WillieG Says:

    I hope the Glazers said this to Arians: “We will let you pick your successor, but if he starts to suck, you have to return. We are all in this season, and we will not tolerate a coach trying to figure things out on the job. This is Brady’s last season and we want to win it all. So be prepared to take over at a moment’s notice.”

  35. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Todd Bowles and this staff is so bad they can make brady not look like a savior. Still don’t understand why Bowles was hired. Didn’t like it at all.

  36. Francisco Guzman Says:

    I can see it getting really ugly on thursday. I said today was a must win and they scored 3 points against the panthers. Lol.

  37. Conte Piscatelli Says:

    Here is my Brady question? He is considered the GOAT, and has a group of very good pass catching options, yet on every 3rd or 4th down and short we always line up in a power run formation and take the ball out of the hands of the best QB in the history of the league. We allow teams to not need to play pass defense on important downs, why?

  38. Oxycondoms Says:

    Are we still blaming the hurricane? The toilet bowles of coaching

  39. Cobraboy Says:

    No heart.

    No leadership.

    No head.

    The loser’s trifecta.

    And I agree with WillieG.

  40. BUCkleup Says:

    3 should have been the first # on the tally of what we scored, not all we scored.

  41. Miller5252 Says:

    The crazy part is they’ve only changed the head coach and 1 assistant. You go from scoring over 30 a game to 15-18 a game and just the head coach has changed. I get Brady has his drama…. But what the hell has happened in the locker room to make this team take a hard left hand turn to the bottom of the NFL??? Joes have got some investigating to do and see what the players are saying what went way wrong

  42. Tom Sumner Says:


  43. Marine Buc Says:

    Two words…

    Dumpster fire.

    This team will suck until the gutless Glazers find the minerals to fire these goons…

    Get ready ready to suck for 2-3 years – at least…

  44. Cobraboy Says:

    I have played on teams where players lost faith in their coaches.

    This team is what it looks like.

    My gut tells me the players don’t believe in Bowles and Leftwich.

  45. Rob In Land O Lakes Says:

    Another example of how bad a coaching staff this is:

    KC schemed Justin Watson open for a TD. No, not just as a punt gunner… a WR TD.

    They also got the ball to CEH on the edge for a TD… totally outflanked SF.


  46. BUCkleup Says:

    No heart anywhere.

    Unfortunately we have no tradition to call on.

    The defense gave up 20 to Trubisky/Pickett and 21 to Phuckin pj walker

  47. Defense Rules Says:

    BA isn’t coming back. He’s much too smart for that. I’m actually wondering if he didn’t see this coming given the screwed-up salary CAP situation Licht has us in right now. Jason let his ego get in the way of his common sense. All-in? By what, bringing in a bunch of veterans with injury histories as long as their arms?

    All our youngsters MAY pay off eventually, but we’re playing far too many rookies for an ‘all-in year’. Without strong veteran FIELD LEADERSHIP, they’re flailing. Next 10 games will seem like an eternity.

  48. William Walls Says:

    Some people know how to lead and some people just don’t. There’s no shame in that. They just shouldn’t be put in leadership positions.

    #fireleftwhich #firebowles

    P.S. I wasn’t on the “Bowles must go” train before, but now I am after he defended the indefensible. These men were handed the reins of a championship-caliber team and a historic offense and after a shaky start to the season, they’ve sunk to new lows each and every week. If I were the Glazers, I’d put Christensen in charge of the offense and make Larry Foote the interim head coach. Then see if there’s anything left to salvage at the end of the season.

  49. Marine Buc Says:

    @ Cobra

    Same here… I agree 100%.

    This team looks like the same team that got Rah Morris fired.

  50. CrackWise Says:

    Just as FAKE as these games…. WHICH ARE 100% rigged.

    Our you SO CALLED FANS…..

    You Fake freaking Fans deserve to get the SHAFT hard up your tail pipes.

    I cant stand reading your acid TEARS of fire everyone because my vag hurts.

    You so called FANs need to go the crap back to Disney Land

  51. Cobraboy Says:

    We will see if the question “Can this team get worse?” is answered on Thursday nite.

    The Ravens may well run up 300 yards on the ground against this sorry bunch.

    I do not know if there are any workable answers.

    3-4 isn’t so bad if you thought .500 is an improvement. But for a team with expressed SB expectations, this has been the most disappointing team in Buc history.

    And could get worse.

  52. Jerry Says:

    Super bowl window is officially closed. At least they got 1 ring out of it.

  53. CrackWise Says:

    Along with my “The NFL is RIGGED” campaign, I am now launching my “Bucs Fans Are COMPLETE Snow Flakes” campaign.

    You FREAKS deserve to have a LOOSING TEAM. Your nothing but a bunch of CRYING 16 year old boys after being told you did not make the team.

    ALL OF YOU need to be slapped in the face as hard as Moron LeftWitch!!!

  54. CrackWise Says:

    Along with my “The NFL is RIGGED” campaign, I am now launching my “Bucs Fans Are COMPLETE Snow Flakes” campaign.

    You FREAKS deserve to have a LOOSING TEAM. Your nothing but a bunch of CRYING 16 year old boys after being told you did not make the team.

    ALL OF YOU need to be slapped in the face as hard as Moron LeftWitch!!!

  55. Cchead Says:


  56. Marine Buc Says:

    @ Cobra


    Thursday night will be very telling indeed.


  57. Cchead Says:

    Crackwise, every season ticket holder like myself who pays thousands has every effin right to be pissed off. We are not getting anything close to what we are paying for.
    So unless you are a fellow season ticket holder. Eat a bag of Dix.

  58. CrackWise Says:

    What yall FAIL to realize it SIMPLE….

    We, THE BUCS, our TEAM!!!!

    Is in first PLACE in the NFC South.

    KEEP CRYING SNOWFLAKE Bucs Fans…. The NFL is Rigged and the BUCS our right where we are supposed to be.


    You all are a bunch of 16+ year old snow flake cry babies!!!

    Go ahead and get more MAD… KEEP PROVING me right!!!

  59. CrackWise Says:


    You don’t have a right to get mad at a product that you buy. YOUR THE DUMBY that bought it. BE MAD AT YOURSELF.

    I gave up my season tickets YEARS ago when I realized the NFL was RIGGED!!!

  60. mark2001 Says:

    The Ravens are always physical, and we don’t play well against truly physical teams.

    We usually save our worst games for the home crowd.

    This team seems to be in a downward direction, even after a players meeting, and the coach seems to have no answers.

    The bottom line? This game could be really ugly for our team.

  61. CrackWise Says:


    In fact, I am probably the reason you couldn’t buy season tickets in the late 90s and early 00s.

    Honestly, as an investor, you do not have ANY SAY in a product. You just decide to invest or not.


  62. mark2001 Says:

    Crack… if we were the Bears, the Lions or Jags, sure… we would be crowing about a 3-4 first place team. But I’m not ready to lump us in with them.

    We had higher aspirations and expectations for this season. What I think you are hearing is the sound of reality hitting a number of people between the eyes, saying that this team won’t accomplish more but likely less than last year’s team did. And after that, when Brady leaves, who knows. It is the sound of tremendous frustration.

  63. Muzammil Usmani Says:

    Byron Leftwich cannot remain the OC. Let Tom Brady cook.

  64. Rob In Land O Lakes Says:

    CrackWuss – If it’s rigged, why are you here? Go troll the adult diaper website

  65. PanthersSuck! Says:

    I’m not wasting any more precious Sundays watching this crap.
    Not again until something changes.
    Stop wasting my time Bucs.

  66. Faspro Says:

    Washington Commanders? They beat the Packers…

  67. mark2001 Says:

    Faspro…. groovy man… Aaron be trippin’.

  68. CrackWise Says:

    Rob In Land O Lakes

    You’re missing the point. It’s not about it being RIGGED, that is OBVIOUS, it’s about everyone MELTING DOWN and being full of NEGATIVE energy.

    THINK, I am not the one RIGGING it. SOOOOO, like any good WWF fan. I ENJOY watching. I am just trying to help you people from CRYING yourselves to sleep all week!!!

  69. CrackWise Says:

    Rob In Land O Lakes

    You’re missing the point. It’s not about it being RIGGED, that is OBVIOUS, it’s about everyone MELTING DOWN and being full of NEGATIVE energy.

    THINK, I am not the one RIGGING it. SOOOOO, like any good WWF fan. I ENJOY watching. I am just trying to help you people from CRYING yourselves to sleep all week!!!

  70. #99 Says:

    The AFC is so much better than the NFC this year..we won’t make it out of the first round if we even sniff the playoffs..never mind beating the AFC.. time to start the fire sale and start rebuilding

  71. lambeau Says:

    The offense is terribly old-fashioned.
    Watching Bucs-49ers, it’s like a different sport–they score!

  72. Bosch Says:

    The Bucs head coach is a Raheem Morris Bowels movement.

  73. mark2001 Says:

    Lambeau… I think you mean Chiefs and 49ers. You sure as heck aren’t talking about the Bucs… or the Packers.

  74. Your Mom Says:

    noun: Peter Principle
    the principle that members of a hierarchy are promoted until they reach the level at which they are no longer competent.

    Todd Bowles… fails as head coach
    Byron Leftwich… fails as offensive coordinator

    Peter Principle x 2

  75. DaPostman Says:

    I don’t understand what you Buc fans are complaining about. The QB didn’t throw any interceptions. Aren’t the Bucs supposed to win when the QB doesn’t throw picks?

  76. FortMyersDave Says:

    Fire Leftwich after the Buc lose to the Ravens 19-6 on Thursday, Toilet Bowles should be put on notice that he will be fired when the Bucs lose NINE games, now likely in the season but perhaps postseason if Leftwich is fired after the loss to the Ravens…..

  77. Rob In Land O Lakes Says:

    Your Mom says:

    “noun: Peter Principle
    the principle that members of a hierarchy are promoted until they reach the level at which they are no longer competent.

    Todd Bowles… fails as head coach
    Byron Leftwich… fails as offensive coordinator

    Peter Principle x 2”

    Exactly! Spot Freaking On!

  78. mg Says:

    Sean Payton needs to walk through that door.

  79. Pewter Power Says:

    Bruce Arians failed this organization by picking Todd Bowles to run the show so he should be part of the solution or glazers should promise to keep him as head coach. Head coach, OC and DC are already in house should the Glazer boys decide to make a move.

    Missing the playoffs would be completely unacceptable I don’t care if he was just hired

  80. HC Grover Says:

    Prepare the head bags for Thursday.

  81. Bojim Says:

    So far I’ve seen nothing that would lead me to believe we’ll make the playoffs.

  82. MadMax Says:

    Why are we here?

  83. MadMax Says:

    players only meeting?

  84. Bucanero Says:

    Jesus Ira you’re right we can’t win even against teams trying to lose. But you know what? I still believe Bucs can make it happen.

  85. Destinjohnny Says:

    O line talent sucks
    Jason missed on 2 draft picks and then mason?
    No d line picks have worked out
    Vea got paid
    45 went Hollywood
    Secondary talent is marginal
    This is on Jason

  86. Craig Says:

    The whole problem comes down to Brady. His head isn’t in the game.

    He is not making adjustments when the receiver gets punched in the face. It is the thing that separates seasoned QBs from rookies, and he can do it no longer.

    He did not come here to play under Bowles, so he doesn’t give a damn.

    Time to bench him and see if Trask is our future, do it now so they can draft someone else. there are some decent prospects out there this year.

  87. FortMyersDave Says:

    Lets face it, if you want to make coin you have to bet the Ravens this week! I hope I am wrong but I am alive in one suicide pool entering next week and I am going with the Ravens as Toilet Bowels looks like he is cool with Wrongwich calling the mediocre plays,,,,,,,

  88. CrackWise Says:

    I hope they show the women’s soccer team walking around shirtless in the locker room in the future.

    Or the women’s OLYMPIC TEAM perhaps.

    PLEASE, Com on MAN. Lets GOOOO

  89. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Craig you sound ridiculous lol. Trask.

  90. PewterStiffArm Says:

    I don’t even want to type anything even though I am typing something. I sat there watching this mess laughing at the notion that no matter what I think or say has no baring on the outcome or how they play. I have watched this before, in the 80’s and most of the 90’s and into the 2,000’s a terrible display of football. Now we have crappy football being played on all three phases of this team. We had a common balance during our resent Superbowl win that we no longer possess. I am glad I don’t have Amazon Prime, this way I don’t have to watch mediocrity on the football field being booed by the home crowd.

  91. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Someone on youtube posted plays of the game against Pittsburgh last week and these wideouts where not getting open which is bizarre against a hurt steelers secondary. Makes me wonder if the same happened today.

  92. BertoRican Says:

    This season is over unless the Bucs decide to get their stuff together. I guess focus more on fantasy football to distract from the pain.

  93. Leopold Stotch Says:

    Where is Joe Tryon-Shoyinka and Shaq?

  94. BUCkleup Says:

    Ravens will stomp us Thursday and they stink.

    We have barely scored all year.

    Wtf are we doing with these clowns at coach? These press conferences are uninformed, lack depth, lack solutions, and show why our team doesn’t believe. We have nothing at our core.

  95. Ken Says:

    Serious question…..

    Can we even take this team seriously if Leftwich isnt fired on Monday?

    Whats the downside to firing Leftwich? The offense if averaging 1 TD per game this year. Its inexcusable.

    Allowing Leftwich to keep his job is giving up on the season.

    The Bucs are in win-now mode. This isnt a dynasty. Brady is gone next year and were likely a 6-11 football team for the next 5 years (best case).

  96. Displaced Floridian Says:

    Ravens on nationally broadcasted game
    Uh oh 3-5 here we come.

  97. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Here are some silver linings, Ira….

    We get a better draft pick.
    Carolina gets a worse draft pick.
    Succop made another FG
    Camarda is getting valuable punting experience
    Brady went another game without an interception.

  98. lambeau Says:

    Watch the Dolphins right now–do the Bucs look anything like this dynamic?

  99. HC Grover Says:

    Only The Great Pumpkin can save the Bucs now.

  100. LVMYBUCS Says:

    Nothing for me to say you all have said it all for me

  101. Coquiro Says:

    I just watched Miami’s first drive and you can’t even compare the speed they displayed and the playcalling to what the Bucs did today. Tua makes Brady look like a 3rd string QB. So embarassing. Pittsburgh looked stunned….unlike they looked like with us

  102. Ultra ClodHopper Says:

    Sarcasm never works

  103. seandonjuan24 Says:

    I don’t know why anyone is surprised at this point. O line ain’t doing theor job. No marpet and no Jensen. Wrs all seem to be less than 100 percent. Also we need gronk back.

  104. mark2001 Says:

    TBBF. Regarding improving draft position. Not necessarily true… Not if you win the division and make the playoffs, just to be spanks. Then you fall behind all the non-playoff teams.

  105. Canabuc Says:

    I may be in the minority here but I really think that Leonard fournette looks terrible. Unless he has some momentum he is not finding creases and is not getting yardage that is available. Rashad white looks much better by comparison. I think it would really be in the box interest to transition over to White being the lead back and have fournette come in more for a short yardage and late game when the defenses are worn down and he has a better chance to break some bigger runs due to his size. But he looks slow and he does not look his agile as he used to.

    We also need to change the play calling up. I find that none of the receiving routes scheme a single guy open. When you look at why the Rams have always been so successful in the past it was because certain formations always clear to space for one receiver to get open and then the ball would go to that guy and he would make some good yards after the catch because of amount of room he had to run. I feel like we either run a bunch of deep routes or a bunch of routes at or near the line of scrimmage and often two receivers tend to be in the same place at the same time which allows more defensive coverage in that area. I’m just so disappointed with how we look.

  106. LVMYBUCS Says:


    Former linebacker Jonathan Vilma, who called the game for FOX, was literally diagnosing exact plays from the press box.

  107. Fred Says:

    Mike’s drop early hurt us but in my opinion if we would’ve kicked the field goal when we were down 7 we would’ve been ok that stop hurt us it was downhill from there

  108. gotbbucs Says:

    No matter what anyone wants, this is probably going to be the team going forward for the next two years after this, minus Brady. Almost everyone they signed this offseason got 3 year deals. Glazers aren’t going to fire Bowles after one season, he’ll likely get 3 years. Leftwich will fall on the blade at some point though I’m sure.
    Let’s just start talking about the draft. That’s always fun in October. Just like the good old days.

  109. Your Mom Says:

    BA must be sad for his guy, but must also be like heheheheheh

  110. DBS Says:

    The Lost Decade. ActII

  111. NYbucsfan Says:

    The coaches suck, period!! Let’s just get to it and fire them and move on.

  112. AbucAway Says:

    Your Mom says:

    “noun: Peter Principle
    the principle that members of a hierarchy are promoted until they reach the level at which they are no longer competent.

    Todd Bowles… fails as head coach
    Byron Leftwich… fails as offensive coordinator

    Peter Principle x 2”

    Yeah. This.

  113. Oddball Says:

    Man if we only had Hingle McKringleberry at TE and Sequester Grundelplith things would be different.

    Add TJ AJ RJ Backslashinforth the 5th and we’d be unstoppable.

  114. Jack Sparrow Says:

    Bucs will be lucky enough to score 3 points on thursday night.

  115. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    We have far too many passes behind the line to gain……..on one set of downs, all three of our passes were short….
    We are getting stuffed on them…..we absolutely must throw beyond the yardage needed…..

    And, yes…Rachaad White looks better than Lenny….he is quicker to the non-hole.

  116. Jack Sparrow Says:

    Glazers should fire Bowles and Leftwich now while Bucs are still on top of the NFC south. Save the season!

  117. Thunder Says:

    Obviously this team is feeling the loss of Gronk, Marpet, Jensen, Cappa , AB, etc…But the biggest loss is Arians, which is now obvious. Bowles has the personality and charisma of a house plant. He is NOT a leader. The way the Bucs start each game( uninspired, bad results) says a lot about Bowles’ lack of leadership. This team is ill prepared EVERY week. I’m not a huge BA fan but at least he had passion, players played hard for him. This team looks unprepared every week, Arians did a far better job. They won the SB because players played hard for BA, they had overwhelming defensive talent ( Bowles received too much credit) and the had the GOAT. Don’t get me started on BL, he is a clueless bum. What SHOULD happen is Bowles goes back to DCoord, Leftwich is fired, and BA is named head coach. This yr is IT for this team. Brady will retire at end of this season and Bucs will be rebuilding, they will be done for 5 years, minimum. So, they HAVE to make moves now! If Julio can’t play Thursday you cut him and then go hard after Odell. Pray that Jensen comes back in December, go hard after Gronk. But first you have to demote Bowles, eliminate Leftwich, bring back BA. Otherwise they will not win their terrible division and will miss the playoffs

  118. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Main 3 Takeaways.
    1) Todd Bowels is a garbage head coach
    2) Byron Leftwhich is a bad OC
    *WARNING* This next one might trigger some newer Bucs fans
    3) Brady is washed.

  119. Jack dos Santos Says:

    It’s simple, Brady and Gronk were able to hide a lot of offensive problems on this team. Now that Gronk is gone, The bucs only have one guy that can run great routes and catch. The other one is still not 100 back from his injury as evidenced by his speed on the field.

    Miller is so darn scared he goes right to the ground when someone is around him.
    Gage is extremely inconsistent.
    Godwin is halfway back but still doesnt have full confidence in his knee for cuts.
    Tightends still don’t know how to run option routes.
    Fournette has reprioritized his time to his family as he stated on one of his Press conferences.

    We have no one that can run a seam option route on that sees what brady sees.

  120. Francisco Guzman Says:

    @Tbbucs3 brady washed? Was he washed on that drop by mike evans? Give me a break. This is all coaching and wideouts not getting open. Godwin is clearly not 100 percent.

  121. Jack dos Santos Says:

    @tbbucs3… wake the F$%K up. In your dreams Brady is washed. You obviously have no football IQ.

  122. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Gage has been a bust of a signing. This guy has brung nothing to the table and mind you he’s going up not against top corners.

  123. Bucamania Says:

    I’d say it’s clear that Todd Bowles is not head coach material. Fantastic DC but not the main man. And Leftwich is in over his head. Arians was coddling him and now he’s somehow clueless. Hard to believe this team was the second highest scoring team in the NFL last year.

    Oh, and Goedeke is horrible. Just horrible. Licht got cute in the draft and came up snake eyes on that guy. Licht fell for the glass eating thing.

  124. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Arians made leftwich look really smart that’s for sure.

  125. JimmyfromNY Says:

    Another laughable Bucks fan that’s clueless he’s throwing almost 300 passes without interception, top five in the league in tight window throws and he’s washed? Lol I can’t wait till he leaves you guys and you have 10 years in the basement. He will win a Super Bowl with the 49ers next year. You guys never never deserved him in the first place.

  126. MadMax Says:

    Well kids, rebuild is here… are we going top 15 or maybe top 10?

    Ya’ll do your homework on Bo Nix…..I want that kid!

    And of course a new coaching staff….we’ll see i guess.

    Mr. Licht, Im coming after your job 😀

  127. Tbbucs3 Says:

    There’s a reason I put a caution warning there….look how triggered many of you new “Bucs fans” I mean Brady fans are.

    Lots of you point to the 1 INT Brady has on the year….WHOOPY FREAKIN DOO! He’s averaging 1 measly passing TD per game.

    Quit living in the past.

  128. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Tampa, BL’s designed plays, those aren’t audibles.

  129. Tbbucs3 Says:

    It’s hilarious how so many of you are compleltey opposed to the idea that a 45 YEAR OLD QB who seems completely disinterested in this season and is playing at a subpar level is not washed……

    How poposterous 🤣

  130. JimmyfromNY Says:

    Again another clueless fan. He’s top five in the league and tight window throws and big time throws. He’s dealing with the worst play caller in professional sports who couldn’t call a game for a high school team. His receivers are tops in the league in drops, has zero running game and a terrible offeof line. You guys don’t deserve him. Hell continue every week to throw the ball where it’s supposed to be thrown, let’s see if your Hall of Fame WR can hold to the ball, instead of going down on every play or going out of bounds. Gage is useless Godwin shouldn’t even be playing

  131. Tbbucs3 Says:

    DummyfromNY, go back to your Pats reddit page

  132. Thunder Says:

    Jimmy don’t waste your time on TBbucs , he is a dummy, like Leftwich

  133. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Thunder, DummyfromNY, Jack Dumb Santos….plenty of great Brady highlights on YouTube archives, go watch those instead because your not gonna find any in 2022.

  134. Erik Hesson - Fine Artist - City of St Pete - Founder of Says:

    Bring back BA.

    Bring back Suh.

    Bring back JPP.

    Bring back Rojo.

    Bring Jensen in asap.

    We done F’d up with those moves.

    Think about it.

    We are lacking Heart & Soul.

    On the field, on the sidelines, and apparently in the locker room as well.

    Aside from Rojo, those 4 guys we don’t have any more were the Heart & Soul of this football team.

    The evidence speaks for itself.


    Such is life, I guess right

  135. Erik Hesson - Fine Artist - City of St Pete - Founder of Says:

    Now, Brady is the only Sheriff in town, and it’s apparently not enough.

    We used to have multiple people who would not stand for this uninspired play etc and would transfer their passion to the rest of the team whenever necessary

  136. Thunder Says:

    TBbucks you would have had great Brady hilight TODAY, but Evans wanted to break out his juggling skills. With an interior Oline that is a mess Brady is completing 67% of his passes , on pace to throw for 4700 yards, hasn’t thrown a pic since week 1. Definitely not throwing many TDs , but Gage dropped a TD last week and Evans’ drop today was epic. Read LaCanfora’s article from yesterday ( may have been today) NFL executives basically saying Brady isn’t the problem. But YOU may know more about NFL QB play than the experts, haha

  137. steele Says:

    PassingThru, you are bulls eye. The OL and RBs (lazy no-gain Lenny) are not respected or feared, defenses drop back into coverage, therefore the WRs and TEs struggle, and no YAC when they catch something. Add terrible, dull playcalling and that is what we are seeing. A bad offense.

    Doesn’t matter who is QB. Brady, who has poor support around him on O or D, is not the main problem, although it is a self-feeding crisis that brings him down at the same time. When everything is a wreck, what can you do?

    The toll of the veteran losses, and the failure of OneBuc to replace those losses with equal or better talent, FIRE and LEADERSHIP is painfully obvious now. The stubborn in-house experiment is clearly failing, a total dud in a season that should be an all-in. To even think p-p-playoffs now is actually sad and laughable. Who’d have thunk?

    What can Brady do? This is a team sport,and this team is bad. Truly bad coaching and leadership, failed offseason. What a tragedy that he gave up his marriage in order to mired in this mess.

    Canabuc, thank you, you are correct, and it’s time to admit it, guys. Lenny has never been a great RB, and he has regressed even more this season. Put a GREAT OL in front of him, a Brady with Gronk and full stock of healthy WRs, and he is average. Now? A total nothing.

    I had my doubts about the direction of this team all the way back in spring, about the roster and about the coaching, but nobody wanted to believe that this ‘Super Bowl contender’ could be this bad. But…Todd Bowles, Byron Leftwich.

    It is no longer “crazy” to discuss seriously the need to fire and replace Bowles and Lefty, and make major changes across the roster. If not now, it must happen after this season ends.

  138. Thunder Says:

    Steele, you are accurate

  139. Tbbucs3 Says:

    “What can Brady do?”

    – Don’t take 11 days off in training camp
    – Don’t attend Robert Krafts wedding the day before a game
    – Dont be inaccurate with the football like he’s been the last 2 weeks.

    But yay! 1 interception!

  140. JimmyfromNY Says:

    What the hell does going to a wedding have to do with Mike Evans dropping a touchdown, or Russell gage having a ball go through his hands at the most important time of the game. Another laughable take. On an average day he’s still a top five quarterback on the league if you know anything about football. Don’t worry when he’s gone you guys will see what real bad football is really like. I’m sure Brady will get this turned around soon. The last 22 years have proven anything but that. You’re not a Bucs fan anyways just a Brady troll. I loved the past 22 years has caused nothing but sleepless nights!! Losing tears of the most delicious ones. Lol

  141. King C Says:

    How quickly y’all forgot how happy you were when Brady unretired.
    Brady won the SB in his first season.
    Take that be happy.
    Anything else should be gravy.

  142. Thunder Says:

    TBbucks you are laughable now. Hey, obviously you are entitled to your opinion, fine with me. I think you are way off the mark here, because all the fingers should be pointed at the over matched coaching staff.

  143. beano Says:

    “Craig Says: The whole problem comes down to Brady. His head isn’t in the game. Time to bench him and see if Trask is our future, do it now so they can draft someone else.”

    “Francisco Guzman Says: Craig you sound ridiculous lol. Trask.”

    Craig makes a reasonable, totally legitimate point. Francisco calls Craig names. Francisco, what are you afraid of? Trask succeeding? Is it your position that the Bucs should keep playing Brady, who will leave after this disastrous season, and NOT find out what Trask can do? You’re the idiot.

  144. JimmyfromNY Says:

    Don’t worry Beesie you’ll get enough of Kyle Trask the next 10 years. You’ll be picking top five in the draft many of those years with absolutely horrific quarterback play. Brady came to one of the worst franchises in the history of sports and turned you around two years and you guys dump on him . Can’t wait till he go to the 49ers win the Super Bowl

  145. beano Says:

    “BucsFan81 Says: We could have already started the process of a rebuild. Now we wasted a year in the re building process.”

    I’ve been saying that since before the season. But nobody listened to beano, who is always right.

  146. steele Says:

    To make this hilarious season even stupider, note how the 49ers got stomped, the Packers lose, looking like garbage, the Steelers lose miserably. But the Seahawks, in the middle of blowing up the team, plays wild lights-out offense and wins.

  147. beano Says:

    JimmyfromNY go to aisle 14 there’s a spill.

  148. Tbbucs3 Says:


    Pretty ignorant of you to consider the person who actually throws the football to be completely “blame free”

    It’s actually quite illogical

  149. Thunder Says:

    Hey Beano, so you and Craig know what’s in Brady’ head? You guys are talented.can you give us the winning lottery numbers for tomorrow? Wow, vast majority of fans are clueless

  150. adam from ny Says:

    brady didn’t seem his upset almost curt self in his post game presser…

    after the first question he almost broke into a smile…almost…

    he doesn’t care anymore…a couple weeks back he did – but something has changed…he doesn’t give a sh!t anymore…and has now checked out

  151. Thunder Says:

    TBbucks, whatever helps you sleep at night , go for it. Speaking of sleep, shouldn’t you get some since you have class tomorrow?

  152. Thunder Says:

    Brady “doesn’t care,” Brady has “checked out”, etc… Alpha males like Brady and MJ don’t throw in the towel and just go through the motions. You don’t accomplish what Brady has with that mindset. Brady, like Jordan is a killer. To think he would give up is just laughable. You don’t understand his obsession for winning. I guarantee he is watching Raven’s film right now, as we speak. He and team are being sabotaged by an inept coaching staff

  153. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Blameless Brady! Of course he can do no wrong, he’s won 7 Superbowls…..I mean c’mon he’s only 45.

  154. Vancouver Buc Says:

    What Steele said. But it all starts in the trenches and both O and D lines have no juice…their lack of talent up front is their weakest link, aside from the current coaching staff.

  155. Redeemer Says:

    Brady cares too much about his legacy to mail it in. This isn’t late 30s MJ, who couldn’t let go. He isn’t noodle armed Manning, decrepit Montana, or no legged Marino. He should’ve been MVP last year, and is still performing. His passer rating including today, is 92.8 on the year. You ingrates.

  156. Thunder Says:

    Redeemer, ingrates is a correct description of many fans

  157. CrackWise Says:


    NFL < WWF

  158. adam from ny Says:

    i’m not saying he’s totally checked out…my bad…

    he just seemed less invested and less caring or ticked off to lose in this last presser…

    like he’s a little bit more checked out, and a little bit more ready to move on, as if this season is already a wash, after basically 5 straight losses…

    and yes i said 5 straight instead of 4 because anyone who saw the atlanta game knows that didn’t feel like a win – even though it went down as a victory in the win column

  159. CrackWise Says:

    Honestly, FOLLOW the money.

    BET THE OVER on points for the RAVENs game.

    Early prediction. WRITE IT DOWN

    31-28 Bucs WIN, Thursday Night FRIGHT

    Just in time for all u scaredy cats

  160. Bucswin Says:

    I miss Schiano.

  161. TB12 FOR PREZ Says:

    Its Ok guys. Tbbucs3 brain is clearly addled because he has only ever had experience with shizza teams and worse quarterbacks. He wouldn’t know quality if it grabbed him by the bills… plus he is only 13 so you cant expect him to be mature and analytical yet. So lets give him a break.

  162. Tbbucs3 Says:

    TB12 For Prez

    So your version of quality is 0 TDs 0 Ints and 3 points against the 1-5 Panthers 🤣🤣 might wanna change that

    Stop living in the past….I’m not a Brady hater, Brady was great in 2020 and 2021….but it’s 2022 and this season hes been bad. Time to face reality folks.

  163. TB12 FOR PREZ Says:

    Dude. Is this his best year ever? No. He throws to spots. SPOTS! These fools don’t know how to read a defense or get to those spots. In those situations he throws low or somewhere no one else can get it. Again, not his best year but the tight window throws are there the velocity is there. The OC OL and weapons are shizza. Except for ME (who was pretty pizz poor today overall). He has never stood there and taken a hit. EVER! This is not new or on him. He is a part of it yes. But he is literally the least of their problems. THE LEAST. If he was on the 49ers, they would likely be undefeated because of the quality coaching… Coaching matters. he has 7 rings because he is great… AND because he had a great coach. The team has to win. if you think he will block tackle throw and catch you are not quite getting what he does. Which is fine. But I think you don’t understand how he plays quarterback. Its not hey you get open and ill throw you the ball. Its PRECISION to a spot, while the receiver and QB read the defense in real time. These jokers cant do it and BL cant call the plays that will get them in the optimal positions to succeed. At least do us the kindness of understanding that a WR TE etc has to be able to read a defense like Brady for them all to look good. Go back and watch Brady and Edelman if you need to understand it better… or any pass to Gronk EVER.

  164. T REX Says:

    For those whining that “brady doesn’t need to practice”

    No crap Sherlock…he needs to practice with his WRs

    Today was an ambarrassing loss

  165. TB12 FOR PREZ Says:

    Also take a look at Edelman and Gronk effort. They never had a game where they had dead fish eyes like this crew.

  166. Melvin Junior Says:

    Yup! That is exactly, what ‘loyalty’ gets you (especially in this particular situation with how everything unfolded)… They totally, missed-out on taking full-advantage of the situation (at the time), by hiring an unbelievable ‘top-notch’ ELITE coach. Now, they will FOREVER, regret not opening-up the hiring process. They WASTED The Very BEST ‘Opportunity’ In Franchise HISTORY there, with THAT decision… Just completely, threw-it AWAY. They’ll NEVER, EVER Get ‘A Chance’ Like THAT, again. So very typical, right!? Worthless. This-one will be hard to swallow, for a very looong time.

  167. Melvin Junior Says:

    I mean, they were totally, around ‘These Guys’ for two YEARS, & they just decided to willy-nilly hand these two-guys THE JOB & an unprecedented TEAM, really… ALL, while in the name of being ‘Woke,’ etc. Just. Absolutely. Un. Freakin. Believable. It’s disgusting. You know what they say… When, ya go woke… You Go BROKE. Nothing MORE True Than THAT.

  168. Melvin Junior Says:

    There Is NO-EXCUSE.

  169. Phred Says:

    Game-planning sucks. Play-calling suck. Players are uninspired and lazy. That’s a coaching problem. Tweaks won’t work. Fire Byron now. Let Bowles know he has the rest of the season to earn his job.

  170. nick Says:

    Crackwise, are you on your first name?

    jimmy said it best. its not on Brady. sure he misses a few throws, and im not so sure its on the o line pass blocking. I saw Brady with a lot of time most times. run blocking is a joke. with this offense, you MUST throw a ball to an RB 8-10 times

  171. Tiny Dungy Says:

    Sign AB

    He’d fit right in with this dumpster fire.