Bucs Had Players-Only Meeting

October 19th, 2022

Our beloved Bucs are determined to figure out why they’re not playing like champions.

That has Joe off the couch at JoeBucsFan.com world headquarters.

In fact, per manbeast defensive tackle Vita Vea, Bucs players gathered this week, after dissecting film with coaches, to put the microscope on themselves. Vea shared this on The Richard Sherman Podcast.

Vea called Sunday’s upset loss to Pittsburgh a “gut check” day.

“Us as players we sat down and met on our own to figure out, you know, what was going on with [us] as a group,” Vea told Sherman. “You know, we figured out that obviously this is not the same team we’ve had in the previous years. We got a couple new pieces in here that have big roles to play, so those are all (then gets cut off by Sherman).”

Unfortunately, Sherman changed the subject on Vea, perhaps to keep him from revealing something he would regret.

Joe took it all as good news that team leadership realizes something is very wrong when you lose to Kenny Pickett and Mitch Trubisky, and the Steelers’ JV secondary.

88 Responses to “Bucs Had Players-Only Meeting”

  1. Jack Sparrow Says:

    Was Brady present ? 🙂

  2. BigBucFan11 Says:

    Does make you wonder what he was going to say though. Problem is and will remain lack of dynamic TE play.

  3. Chris Stewart Says:

    Joe- any word if Brady attended the meeting or was he at the Kraft honeymoon ?

  4. Leopold Stotch Says:

    GOOD! It seems Brady is a bit distracted to be the entire glue for the team and someone needs to step up in a more prominent leadership role to help Brady. Without Suh and JPP, I can’t see anyone other than LVD being one… Maybe Winfield, on offense, maybe Mike? Either way something needs to happen. This gives me a little more confidence going into Carolina. I think we can expect a complete game now by all three phases of the team… I’d hope so, but I need to see it too.

  5. Buczilla Says:

    Soooo much drama surrounding our team right now. I hope our guys get it figured out, because right now it’s starting to look like a clown show.

  6. BucsfanFred Says:

    Cris, that wasn’t funny

  7. SufferingSince76 Says:

    It’s always scary when teams have players only meetings. It can go either way, but good teams don’t need them and they rarely work out for the positive.

  8. Letsbuccingo Says:

    I would say make a trade for a LG and CMC but Leftwich would find a way to neuter the talent anyways. I also have been wondering how much of the offensive game plan is being sifted through Bowles fingers every week. Maybe that’s why we aren’t throwing as much and scheming for our playmakers like ME13 I’m just as down on Bowles as I am Leftwich. Sad to see so much talent and potentially TB12’s last season being pissed down the drain because of the coaches ego and incompetence. If the Bucs can’t beat a 3rd string QB panthers team in shambles on Sunday, blow the whole roster up.

  9. Conte Piscatelli Says:

    It is never a for the coaching staff when teams have players only meetings

  10. Frank Pillow Says:

    Hopefully that meeting came with a big mirror for Vita to stare into.

  11. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    We had better win Sunday, or I have a funny feeling this team will Implode.

  12. Letsbuccingo Says:

    This team lacks the real DAWGS. Without Gronk, JPP, Suh, Jensen, Marpet, etc and with Brady dealing with all of his offfield stuff, we lack a real identity of grit and toughness and will to win. I see too many guys loafing, collecting checks and okay with the status quo. Someone needs to give this team a backbone but sadly it won’t be the coaches

  13. Chris Stewart Says:

    BucsfanFred- I’ll make sure to check with you first before I post from now on.

  14. Quiet Chaos Says:

    God am I the only one fed up with all the excuses?! Lack of TE production… weak running game… banged up offensive line.

    With the Goat at QB, the weapons at WR, a more then capable RB, we should be finding creative ways to just blow people out consistently. Look at that 2007 Patriots… they had basically just Randy Moss and Wes Welker. Other than Moss and Welker they just had a bunch of very average weapons (WR Dante Stallworth, TE Ben Watson and RB Laurence Maroney.) That team curb-stopped people all year!

  15. Larry Says:

    Where are the super star players from free agency?? They have been hurt or whatever 90% of the time. They need to either get well or get gone. Sorry! Both of these guys have been hurt where ever they have gone!! Why are they here??? Like they say, “you can’t help the club by sitting in the tub”!

  16. SB~LV Says:


  17. JP Says:

    TB had to go with Kraft to help out on the honeymoon, remember Kraft is 81 wife is 47. They also has an Asian lady , supposedly a cook, accompany them.

  18. Bojim Says:

    Get back in the fight!! Now would be a good time. 😁

  19. Bucfan Says:

    Now all we need is a ‘players only game plan’. Has to be better than what the coaching staff is doing!!!!!

  20. SteveYoungwasRight Says:

    It’s funny how entitled and comfortable some Bucs fans are in taking shots and the guy who made this franchise relevant again. This team was known as a “poverty franchise.” A franchise where fans and media mocked Brady for choosing, and now you whiny losers want to throw him under the bus and blame him for the entire team woes. He’s been the ultimate scapegoat because of his stature and his entire life has been played out in public. This franchise was a nonexistent blip on the national stage. We were mired in early games and TV blackouts. Tom would never quit because it’s not his style, and he’s mental tough. A lot more tougher than you snowflakes. I would just quit and let Trask and Blaine take over. Go back to being the irrelevant “Yucs.” Brady’s not beyond criticism. He’s not perfect by no means, but fans are piling on worse than the national media. The Packers’ fans are supporting their QB though a difficult time and they defended him vigorously when the media came after him for his podcast tour and COVID stuff. That’s because Packers are a storied franchise with real fans who support their stars. We have the GOAT and we’re throwing him to the wolves. Absolutely shameful.

  21. KingLDavid54 Says:

    We need fewer Vita Veas and more Lavonte Davids on the team

  22. Panhandle Buc Says:

    Hopefully two of the talking points was to audible from those 1st down runs and soft zone defense on 3rd and long…

  23. adam from ny Says:

    good to hear about a players only meeting…

    dudes balling up to rally back is the move…

    also i think they’re catching the vibe that if they lose to carolina this weekend, someone could maybe get fired or something…

    there might not be room for a loss in carolina at this point – that would essentially be hitting rock bottom

  24. Jmarkbuc Says:



  25. KingLDavid54 Says:

    ^^^ SteveYoungisaKaren

  26. D-Rok Says:

    I see this meeting as a positive. Hopefully the conclusion was that the players need to take responsibility for their own play and at least get they mentals right. Let’s see the Bucs come out with much more fire on Sunday against the Panthers. If not….Oh boy.

    I’m expecting a much more competitive game win or lose.

  27. BigMacAttack Says:

    As for free agents, Gage sucks and can’t catch. He’s dropped balls that could have win games. Boot him to the curb. Nicks to the curb. Julio to the curb. Those 3 garbage signings that have net zero return could sign any o line help needed. Jason Licht has really done well since getting Brady, but he really blew it with Free Agents this year. Ryan is good though but now he’s on IR. WTF

  28. Adrnagy Says:

    Cut the talk ! And perform period.

  29. BucU Says:

    Yeah man. Our free agent signings have been a disaster. Straight up.

  30. BA’s Red Pen Says:

    “Manbeast,” is an overused and unearned monicker typed on this here website.

  31. Coburn Says:

    I’ll remain skeptical until I see a turnaround on the field. I like the sounds of a come to Jesus meeting, but means nothing if they still under achieve, have mental errors, lack roughness, etc.

  32. Pewter Power Says:

    “Us as players we sat down and met on our own to figure out, you know, what was going on with [us] as a group,”

    You would know that from reviewing the tape after 6 games so did you really have a players only meeting to call out each others bad play?

  33. Tap-Out Says:

    Left witch is not on the field …he throws no passes, he blocks no defenders, he doesn’t run any routes to get open, and certainly doesn’t tackle any running backs! …but we all know this!

  34. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    The players only meeting can’t really hurt much….

  35. Capece is Kaput Says:

    The way this whole division is going, 9-8 may win it. 10 wins should be a lock. If we just keep improving and group some good wins together toward the end of the year, I think we will be okay. Look at Cinci last year. 10-7. After their bye week last year they were 5-4 and had just lost in a blow out to Cleveland. Their season turned out pretty good. No reason yet for us to jump off the ledge, even if we do stink it up again against Carolina. I will feel nervous if we hit 7 losses and there are still a few games left in the season, but for now, let’s stay optimistic. Do some chanting or meditation or burn some incense, rub some crystals under your pits or some other hippy crap like that and everything will be okay.

  36. LakelandSteve Says:

    Players only meetings only work if all the players completely buy in and decide that they have had enough of silly mistakes, and losing. Maybe another leader will emerge other than Devin White. He has been part of some of the breakdowns and shoddy play that have kept us from winning …ie getting the roughing the passer call on 3’rd down to extend the drive for the Steelers. Also the blown assignment on the touchdown pass to the back out of the backfield. That was Whites man and he didn’t even try to cover him.

  37. MadMax Says:

    When the coaches suck, that what players do!

    Next wont be a players meeting, it’ll be just them giving up.

  38. Anonymous Says:

    Players only meeting very early in the season hmmm the team is in turmoil and alota guy are playing for contracts and not a super bowl

  39. Tackleblockwin Says:

    Folks I have some amazing news! I found my lucky Bucs sweat pants. We are about to go on a winning spree!

  40. Mike Johnson Says:

    Bucs will beat up on the panthers. But we will truly see if they are turning any corners against them Ravens.

  41. Kody Says:


    Bowles said JULIO was ready to play way back during the Packers game. That he was good to go (enough) to play. But they sat him out that game just to be safe.

    Subsequently, he hasn’t played at all.

    So what happened? How could his knee have gotten worse while resting it? And now they’re indicating he might not play till January.

    Did I miss updates on what happened? Can someone give me a QRD?

  42. Kody Says:


    Awesome! We need all the help we can get to ward off the hex Gisele put on us!

  43. Doughboy Says:

    They need motivation, someone or something to piss all of them off. They play passive.Did that last game of season Rams.Played passive until they hurried up the offense and we almost won.

  44. JimmyJack Says:

    Maybe its just the Bucs fan in me but when I see the team playing uninspired football my natural instict is to worry there is some kind of internal problem happening behind the scenes. We’ve seen this be the case just way too many times.

    Gotta admitt Im worried this team is about ready to implode. Its not hard to imagine………Reported hassle over a red marker, then a retire/unretire, our trusted HC retires seemingly out of nowhere, our QB misses time in preseason, Cole Beasley shows up for a cup of coffee then abruptly leaves, some wierd reports about Toms Wednesdays then no walkthrough and starting off flat this Sunday. It wouldnt really shock if if some players arent too happy with the “arrangements” and changes that are happening on this team.

    The fan in me envisions a 7 game winning streak and a trip to Arzona but the Buc in me is shaking and scared.

  45. Your Mom Says:

    They need a coaches only meeting, and serve pink slips.

  46. Pryda...Sec147 Says:

    Coaches suck I’m looking at you Bowles itch

  47. Beeej Says:

    The defense is mildly better than last year, (a couple plays could have turned the game) offense is grossly limited, which has nothing/little to do with Brady. Could better scheming fix it? dunno

  48. Kentucky Buc Says:

    Uh Shaq said it wasn’t really a players only meeting. More lies and drama from the media. Now you bunch of snowflakes can gripe because they didn’t have one.

  49. Bucschamp Says:


  50. matthew veal Says:

    Ouch. Never heard of teams doing this getting out of last place

  51. Redeemer Says:

    Brady certainly has the cache to lead a players only. Name the situation, he’s been in it. Many times the Patriots were written off. I suspect it went something like this. We have the talent. How do you want to be remembered? It’s still all in front of us. It’s up to everyone in this room to be accountable, do your job, and perform.

  52. JimbobBucfan Says:

    Those who actually watch and listen to head coaches press conferences know that Todd Bowles spread the blame around well enough. He did not shirk his own responsibility either. (JBF and the Sage will appreciate that verbiage. 😏)

    I don’t care if we are 11 and 6 or even 10 and 7 at the end of the season as long as two things happen. (1) We are in the playoffs. (2) We have some mo’ going at that point.

    Go Bucs!

  53. Rod Munch Says:

    Fun fact: Leftwich has made Ryan Succop the top kicker in fantasy football! That’s the first time a Bucs kicker has ever lead in fantasy after week 6.

  54. D-Rok Says:

    Wow – did you all read the Jenna Laine ESPN story that just broke? She said Hainsey loved Tom chewing them out.

    “Everyone can call it what they want, but I want nothing else from a quarterback than that — than the guy who’s wanting to tell us what we need to do and step up,” said Hainsey, who is in his first year as the starting center and second season in the NFL. “If he was just sitting over there and not get us going and not try to help us — he wouldn’t be who he is today.”

    “I love that from him. I know we all love that from him. It might look weird on TV, but that’s football. That’s what you want from great teammates and great leaders, and he’s the best there is.”

  55. Rod Munch Says:

    D-Rok – Women get moody and throw a hissy fit because someone yells at them. Men respond to it by answering the challenge.

    And again, I’ll point out, the line played better after that.

    Any player that wouldn’t respond like Hainsey shouldn’t be on this team. The dopes on this site that think what Brady did was ‘uncalled’ for, those people are losers, and get demeaned all the time at their job because they’re failures.

  56. Redeemer Says:

    D-Rok, just saw that. Makes sense. Would you rather have Russell Wilson patting guys on the back for sucking? Or Brady getting on your ass, and demanding you perform better. Every effective leader I’ve been around, has demanded high standards. No shortcuts to success. D-Rok, you’ve been talking about identity a lot. That’s 100% a coaching issue. Strip it down, and do what works, not what you want to work.

  57. Kentucky Buc Says:

    D-Rok. That doesn’t fit the narrative so media won’t report on it. They’d rather have drama and talk about players only meetings that didn’t happen.

  58. D-Rok Says:

    Pretty much on-point, Rod. Due to all the sensitive ones being offended that an athlete would cuss out his teammates for poor play, I wanted to make sure people knew how the recipients felt about being cussed out.

    This is critical because many commenters feel like Brady isn’t all-in this year. I think he is.

  59. D-Rok Says:

    Good comments/thoughts, guys.

    I was in the Army, Redeemer, so I totally understand leadership, which is WHY I’ve been leaning on the identity narrative lately.

  60. JimbobBucfan Says:

    If you look at it as though we just had a six week preseason warm up then we are starting an eleven week season that matters. Of course one big plus is that we are at the top of the NFC South in reality.

    Now, if we should lose against Carolina then we will be sure that our season is in the toilet swirling around.

    Go Bucs! I have faith in you!

  61. Kentucky Buc Says:

    Btw the interview with Hainsey is on YouTube if you want to watch it. Don’t know if it’s on the team site.

  62. Rod Munch Says:

    They were yelled at because they were playing like s— at that time. When you know you’re not doing well, and you got a leader yelling at your to get your a– in gear, so long as that leader is respected, that can help get guys to focus and sort of reset things.

    Now if you have some fraud yelling and screaming, people will tune them out or mock them. That’s not an issue here.

    From Brady’s side, the only thing he did wrong was not going over to Leftwich and chewing him at 100x the intensity he showed the o-line.

  63. SuhJPPOlineDistractedBradyNoBruce Says:

    The problems are obvious and cumulative. No Bruce, distracted Brady, no Suh or JPP, much worse online. I am beginning to accept this team is no longer championship material. Too many changes in the off-season that Litch did not properly address.

  64. Destinjohnny Says:

    When u draft a crap center and guard
    Then bring in a below average guard…
    It’s makes it harder then it needs to be

  65. Oddball Says:

    They are flummoxed by the Panther’s move to start PJ Walker.

  66. T REX Says:

    I’m sure they all ran up the middle

    In all seriousness, this season was destined to be a trainwreck.

  67. Buc Unto Death Says:

    Sometimes you have to let the players connect directly. It can be really good.

    Don’t mess this up, like Torts did when Andreychuk held a players-only meeting.

  68. steele Says:

    Letsbuccingo is right. The tough tone setters and leaders who left were not properly replaced. They should have been immediately replaced with equal or better veterans, but more importantly, leaders.

    Simply shoving rookies and younger guys out there doesn’t replace the intangibles and experience. Brady can’t do it alone. Logan Ryan was one guy, but now he’s out.

    This is a top-down issue: leadership, tone, direction, identity. As well as week to week preparation, that players alone can’t address.

    They’ve already committed to the youth/in-house approach, and that will decide the season.

  69. catcard202 Says:

    This team is has not gelled yet & has not played good FB for most of the season (not up to TB12 standards)…But looks to still be beating favorites for winning the division & making a run in the playoffs.

  70. Redeemer Says:

    D-Rok, me too. Did you have a problem with Brady comparing football season to a deployment? I love me some Brady, but it’s a bad analogy. He’s paid millions and isn’t under gun fire. He also gets to see his family during the week. he’s so careful with his words, it just surprised me. A little too self important for my taste.

  71. Bucsfan13 Says:

    Brady would never get in any public altercation with Leftwich. This isn’t NE with McDaniels and Bill O’Brien. When it happened, the media had countless articles and segments about how Brady was the bad guy. The media would kill Brady more than they’ve already have and he would be cancelled. Could you imagine the optics of Brady arguing with his black coach on the sidelines? The woke people would be out with the pitchforks. Remember when Brady shook of the call from Leftwich in a critical situation against Dallas in 2021? The media went wild and accused him of disrespecting his coach. Leftwich himself looked kinda pissed.

    The discussion surrounding if Brady is all in is all so disingenuous. He’s an easy punching bag. Devin White blew an assignment and gave up a TD to Najee Harris. He’s also been missing a lot of assignments this year. How do we know that Devin has personal issues off the field? Why aren’t we questioning him about it? You know why? Because his private life is private. Brady’s life is out for the public to see, so it’s easy to attach personal issues to the bad play of the team. Why can’t it be that Brady might be off and it has zero to do with his personal life? Why isn’t he afforded that reason?

  72. CrackWise Says:

    WOW ok,

    Let me help all of you out. Todd and BL are not PERFECT. Who among us is???

    HOWEVER, they are OUR guys and the deserve OUR support. NONE of us are in the situation they are in.

    HOW ABOUT YOU SNOW FLAKES back the F u C k OFF!!!

    You included JBF!!!

  73. Old Sombrero Says:

    Some others said it and I agree…our lack of dynamic TE play is killing the offense coupled with a step down in o-line play. And players meeting – who cares? I’ve been in players only meetings – they’re BS survivor island meetings that tend to further divide the team because there’s usually no accountability in these meeting. Much better for a small group of leaders to address players individually.

  74. MadMax Says:

    Keep smoking that crack , CrackHead. Get mad because we’re calling them out on their failures and obvious immature tactics and play calling. But its ok, you dont get it low IQ crack smoka.

  75. unbelievable Says:

    No CrackWise, Leftwich is a buffoon in terms of being a coordinator. Always had been.

    The difference is when he had 8 – 9 pro bowl / all pro / HOF players in the lineup, it would mask his deficiencies as a coordinator.

    Now that he only has 5 – 6 of those types of players (which is still very good) he’s been exposed for what he is – a below average coordinator who doesn’t know how to be creative, scheme guys open with misdirection, or exploit mismatches.

  76. David Says:

    Always a good sign. It shows that the leaders of the team give a crap and want to be better.

    If they went in to the Baltimore game at 5–2, it would be right where most thought they would be because most of us felt 2 losses in the first 4 games was reasonable.
    They simply should have never lost to Pittsburgh. Even though they haven’t looked good on offense yet, they’re fully capable of turning that around

  77. Onetrickpony Says:

    Bingo bingo bingo

  78. TDTB Says:

    From my point of view, the offense (while admittedly predictable and uninspired) is about where I expected at this point in the season. TE’s not top grade but getting better. OL not a finished product, but getting marginally better. They need better play calling on offense to be sure, but I think the real culprit is the defense. I expected the team to lean on the defense the first half of the season, but they’ve folded like a cheap umbrella. Vea is a very good part-time player, but has not demonstrated the ability to be great or a game changer. White runs away from the play too much and when the run is at him can’t stop it. We are missing Sue and JPP tremendously. Hall and JTS show potential, but they aren’t fully baked yet…and I’m not seeing star quality in their play (hope I’m wrong). They should be in a rotation with starting caliber players. Shaq has been a disappointment for a couple of years now if you ask me. Poor first and second layer defense has exposed weaknesses in the third layer. There’s not nearly enough pressure up the middle on passing plays and the outside rush is hit or miss. The run defense is atrocious. I think it’s the defense that thinks it’s as good as it used to be not the offense. They need to get off the talk shows, interview circuit and podcasts, and get in the G.D. game.

  79. garro Says:

    Team meeting needed to happen about a month ago.
    BTW team meetings don’t usually bode well for coaching staffs

  80. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Crackhead, the meeting was about how can they get rid of Bowels and lefty dumb arse. Watch a freaking Giants game and how their coaches react to good and bad. The players want emotional coaches that show they care not ones that cower and throw them under the bus. Hainsley said this about Brady, I’m sure he wouldn’t mind if two time loser sour puss would show he cares and fires Leftnut. All you BA lovers out there, just remember who stuck the Bucs with these clowns!

  81. Ultra ClodHopper Says:

    Wow look at the talent in that picture. Sure could use a few of those guys back.

  82. Goatfarmer Says:


  83. Jean Re Says:

    I can not believe the nasty COMMENTS . It is not TB12 the players need to catch the ball, tackle better etc. The entire team needs to do better. The line needs to do better the entire team needs to play better. No need to be so nasty to one person. The entire team needs to play better.

  84. Jean Re Says:

    To Bucks team 13. Great message. Thank you

  85. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    The Bucs did this back in the Dungy days…and that was when things turned around for the team. Lasted 10 years.

  86. G Says:

    You all keep talking about the goat. Yes you have probably the best receivers in the league but it is hard to catch a ball thrown in the ground or over their heads. I don’t know what you have been watching but it is hard to get first downs when your quarterback is throwing the ball away so he doesn’t get hit. It’s easy to blame the boss when their workers are not doing their job

  87. Vgb Says:

    All these comments about brady…THE BUCS WOUKD BE NOTHING WITHOUT BRADY..THE ONLY REASON THE BUCS ARE RELEVANT IS BECAUSE OF BRADY!!!!all these wannabe couch potato sitting on their axx as if they could do better!!!!and all of you who had a problem with the military comment need to go back to school and revisit critical thinking …MILITARY HAS ALWAYS BEEN USED AS AN ANALOGY TO SPORTS…” PEYTON LIKE A FIELD GENERAL” I wonder how many vets had something to say about that…and that was just one example!!!!…all of you making these negative comments about a man JUST TRYING TO WIN FOR THIS TEAM is a dam joke!!!!

  88. TCMiami Says:

    WELP…After this Sunday…Looks like the players only meeting had a huge impact. 21-3 Panthers.