Logan Ryan Raves About Todd Bowles
August 18th, 2022
Bucs DB Logan Ryan.
Logan Ryan may just turn out to be one of Jason Licht’s best signings.
That’s saying a lot from the Bucs’ AC/DC-loving general manager. After all, in the past he signed guys like Antonio Brown (who should have been a Hall of Famer) and Ndamukong Suh (who will be a Hall of Famer). Oh yeah, and some guy named “Brady.”
Ryan, the veteran defensive back, was signed by Licht this offseason. Meeting Ryan one thing jumps out immediately: This guy is really smart. And after you watch a practice or two, something else jumps out: This guy Ryan can play ball.
Ryan has played for some damn good defensive coaches. Bill Belicheat is one, maybe the greatest. And then there is Mike Vrabel, who is a damn good defensive coach, too. So yesterday when Ryan was talking up the defense of Bucs coach Todd Bowles, it really got Joe’s attention.
“It is very detailed and nuanced,” Ryan said. “[Bowles] has been running defenses for a very long time, and the whole coaching staff has been running his defense for a very long time, so there are tons of layers to the defense – detail-wise [and] disguise-wise.
“Usually, I try to put my own disguises on it and build that into defenses, but he already has it, so I’m just trying to learn it.”
Unless Joe is interpreting Ryan’s words wrong, it sure seems as though Bowles’ defense has more wrinkles in it than Belicheat’s.
Ryan is clearly a football junkie and he explained how Bowles is as well and Ryan likes that about Bowles.
“I was at a fundraising event with the Bucs, and we were in suits,” Ryan explained. “I went and saw Coach Bowles and within 10 seconds we were talking about football. We weren’t talking about the event much – we were talking about football and what idea he had last night when he was sleeping. He is all about ball all the time and that’s my type of person.”
Joe has a very strong hunch that Ryan is going to be one of the most underrated additions to the Bucs since, well, since Brady. Ryan will be like a coach on the field.
You pair Ryan’s smarts and savvy and experience with a film junkie like Antoine Winfield, Joe believes Ryan and Winfield very possibly could become the best pair of safeties in the league.
August 18th, 2022 at 11:01 am
Hope Musel Hamster doesn’t hear about Ryan “Raving” over the coach.
August 18th, 2022 at 11:03 am
Joe, I know you must be able to find a better picture of Logan Ryan. This one you keep using is not exactly a flattering image.
August 18th, 2022 at 11:13 am
Our Bucs secondary is very fortunate to learn from both experienced coaches and veteran players. This should be a very good defense with such a great mix of talent and experience.
August 18th, 2022 at 11:15 am
This quote from Ryan, who may be the smartest DB in the game, says it all to me:
“…so there are tons of layers to the defense – detail-wise [and] disguise-wise.
Usually, I try to put my own disguises on it and build that into defenses, but he already has it, so I’m just trying to learn it.”
So Ryan, the veteran and smartest guy on the field, is still trying to learn the scheme after almost a month plus OTAs.
Think the average player can grasp all those layers and disguises? The evidence says no, with so many coverage busts and receivers and tight ends running free with on one within 15 yards of them.
How about trusting that some of your guys can play good physical ball and let them play fast. Not advocating for removing all layers, but somehow in there is a happy medium between fooling the offense and fooling your own guys with a calculus 4 defense.
August 18th, 2022 at 11:19 am
Goatfarmer: If easy to read coverages worked in the NFL, Mike Smith would still be employed.
August 18th, 2022 at 11:21 am
Agree Joe; Logan Ryan will be one of JL’s best signings. Personally expect to see him on the field literally 100% of the time, and to be to this defense roughly what John Lynch was to Monte’s defense. The 3 kingpins in that defense (Sapp, Brooks & Lynch) covered all position groups in terms of not only highest quality play but also LEADERSHIP. We just need someone to step up to take over the DLine leadership role now. Vea may be that guy one day, but not today.
August 18th, 2022 at 11:23 am
Did someone say rave?
August 18th, 2022 at 11:27 am
I’m not advocating “easy to read.” Just dial the complexity back one notch. Read what Ryan said. This is Bowles fourth year running the defense and his guys still don’t know the scheme. Ryan’s a football genius and still doesn’t know it.
When that’s the case, it’s why we see execution breakdowns all over the field. I’d rather our guys know what they are doing, know where to be / who to cover, then if they get beat it’s thanks to a fair fight at least. When we have three defenders covering one guy and no one covering two guys, thats the worst thing. And it happens way to often.
August 18th, 2022 at 11:28 am
Wirfs injured
August 18th, 2022 at 11:30 am
Logan Ryan is one smart dude….
August 18th, 2022 at 11:31 am
Wirfs just left with an injury.
August 18th, 2022 at 11:38 am
Please be cramps.
August 18th, 2022 at 11:42 am
Best case scenario is cramps… Let’s hope Tom is taking 10 days for an intense QB scrambling camp
August 18th, 2022 at 11:42 am
Logan will be the Green Dot wearing helmet of the Secondary!
August 18th, 2022 at 12:02 pm
No Deshaun for Bucs-
August 18th, 2022 at 12:18 pm
Wirfs left practice with a core muscle injury, unknown severity.
Zyon McCollum left practice with a hamstring injury, probably minor.
In the case of Wirfs, let’s hope it is just a strain rather than something that requires surgery.
August 18th, 2022 at 12:30 pm
Yup no watson. Suspended 11 games and we are game 11
August 18th, 2022 at 12:40 pm
@ #8
Yes the Bucs will not be playing Deshaun Watson during the regular season… too bad the Saints will not be so lucky…..(Tee Hee)
Oh #8 btw:
Suh!
August 18th, 2022 at 12:43 pm
Goatfarmer makes a good point–something simple is missing when we don’t double Tyreek Hill and Cooper Kupp, like the dumb guys do.
August 18th, 2022 at 12:49 pm
@Goatfarmer
These are professionals, and this defense has been better the past 3 seasons than any defense the franchise fielded from 2009-2018. NO, Bowles doesn’t need to scale back, dumb down, or put a learning curve on his scheme because there’d be something lost in the effectivity of the scheme in doing that alone. For somebody who’s in these here comments railing against Bowles acumen as a coach, now to hear that one of the more cerebral players at his position in the entire NFL is fawning over intricacies and how built in purposes make less work for him to do as an individual speaks on the football IQ of Bowles your response to this is kind of funny.
Also, our CBs play off the ball, because it’s easier to stop a WR that’s still in front of you instead of playing a bunch of press man and heightening the chances a WR breaks off the LOS and runs by your guy OR draws a penalty outside of the 5 yard cushion for hand fighting or defensive holding. Easier scheme doesn’t equate to easier to play and if it still confuses Aaron Rodgers as a QB then what is the problem?
August 18th, 2022 at 12:59 pm
Hoping Wirfs didn’t tear anything. Man the injuries…
Can we ask Suh to join O-Line?
August 18th, 2022 at 7:14 pm
Thanks, Dooley, for the excellent comments.
I agree with the appropriate focus.
August 18th, 2022 at 7:37 pm
I was hoping the Bucs drafted this guy when he was coming out of Rutgers…So I’m happy we finally got him here in Tampa…
300+ tackles combined in the last 3 years is insane.. This defense should really fun to watch this year…