Buccaneers-Dolphins, Open Thread

August 13th, 2022

The Blaine Gabbert Show is on!

Bucs football is back! Except nearly every starter will be in street clothes tonight in the 2022 preseason opener at The Licht House.

Still, it’s football. Glorious football! Much better than watching, say, nearly anything ever produced for TV.

Comment all game long below. Joe will have plenty right here after the game. And a new Ira Kaufman Podcast for the early morning.

394 Responses to “Buccaneers-Dolphins, Open Thread”

  1. Dewey Selmon Says:

    The beer is cold and the joints are rolled! Go Bucs!!!

  2. MadMax Says:

    No injuries please!

  3. #8 Says:


  4. SB Says:

    I am headed over to Dewey’s house.

  5. BucsFan81 Says:

    LFG Go Bucs!!!

  6. Dewey Selmon Says:

    C’mon over SB, enough to go around.

  7. PassingThru Says:

    A glass of a Spanish abarino here. If I do beer this late I’ll be peeing into the wee hours.

  8. PassingThru Says:

    Ok lets check out the Buc OL

  9. MadMax Says:

    Im slowly drinking a few beers, have to get up for work at 245am lol.

  10. PassingThru Says:


  11. shak_bucs Says:


  12. SB Says:

    Nice start. Three plays, negative six yards!

  13. PassingThru Says:

    Ok this is a science experiment, Stinnett at RG and Leverett at LG

  14. Rod Munch Says:

    Classic Leftwich!

  15. DaBux Says:

    First series Preseason review:

    We’re doomed!

    We’re drafting #8


    Now, let’s chill.

  16. Rod Munch Says:

    No, I’m not panicking, just being a smarta… It’s preseason, I don’t expect to see much other than an ultra generic version of the offense, ie, Leftwich’s version of Arians offense.

  17. PassingThru Says:

    OL allowed a helluva lot of penetration, might have been a blown screen

  18. Rod Munch Says:

    Well, yeah, the 3rd down play was a very poorly ran screen pass.

  19. Coran Says:

    Arians’ offense was so frustrating. Brady thrives in play action, and the no risk it crap adds too many turnovers. Brady can still put up huge numbers with less risk. Hopefully they do that this year

  20. Rod Munch Says:

    I thought the point of reducing the number of preseason games was so that we didn’t get complete garbage games where no one plays their starters… Just go to 2 preseason games already and give us 18-regular season games with 2 byes, have a nice 20-week regular season.

  21. Rod Munch Says:

    Coran – Bucs literally lead the NFL in scoring under Arians… but what we need to do more is run up the middle for no gain. LOL!

  22. PassingThru Says:

    Here’s the Big Question: Shall I eat dinner or drink dinner?

  23. MadMax Says:

    Gill with the sack…nice!

  24. Coran Says:

    Rod- bus literally lead in scoring because of Brady’s adjustments to arians’ offence. Even the players said it was Brady’s changes after the bye two years ago that led to the increased success. You can see what is arians and what is Brady. The “bombs away someone’s down there” is all arians.

  25. PassingThru Says:

    The offense under Brady drastically changed from the “biscuit” offense.

  26. Rod Munch Says:

    Coran – The Bucs were 4th in 2019, 2nd in 2020 and 2nd in 2021…

    But yeah, more runs up the middle for no yards – that’s gonna make us #1 and get us a SB.

    Oh wait…


  27. PassingThru Says:

    What is strange is that the Bucs need to improve their pass protection, and yet they’re concentrating on gap/duo run blocking.

  28. Rod Munch Says:

    PassingThru – The main difference in the offense was that they started using the TE, and Brady will take what’s given to him. But Brady also lead the NFL in yards, in case you forgot, along with air yards, just like Winston did. Brady also lead the NFL in the number of deep passing attempts and yards.

    In any case I have no issues with anything Brady wants to do. I have a huge issue with Leftwich however since he’d run it up the middle on every single play if Brady or Arians wasn’t yelling at him to open it up.

  29. PassingThru Says:

    Tyler Johnson!

  30. Goatfarmer Says:

    Coran – you really know a lot about football.

  31. Rod Munch Says:

    That was a 1st down run that still ended up between the tackles, so that’s up the middle.

  32. Coran Says:

    Rod- how were the turnovers before Brady? Oh they improved? Also, last I checked 2nd and 1st are better than 4th. Just cuz something is good doesn’t mean it can’t be better.

    I’m also getting the hint you have no idea what play action is….

  33. PassingThru Says:

    Yes sir, Rod

  34. MadMax Says:

    Tyler Johnson is looking great!

  35. Rod Munch Says:

    Tyler having a nice game so far. Too bad it’s against backups. His issue was getting production against starters when they needed him late in the season, and he just doesn’t quite have the quickness vs starters. Maybe he make some changes though, would be nice if he leveled up in the offseason.

  36. DaBux Says:

    Sipping supper, watching the blandville offense.

  37. Rod Munch Says:

    Was that 3 runs up the middle in a row!

    Way to go Leftwich!

  38. shak_bucs Says:

    good job td

  39. Rod Munch Says:

    I’m being a smarta… I know this isn’t our real offense…

    I hope.

  40. PassingThru Says:

    Cool, that beats drinking alone

  41. MadMax Says:

    Nice!!!! Gabbert is looking good!

  42. DaBux Says:

    Start Gabby, Bench Brady!

    (Too Early?)

  43. SB~LV Says:

    Happy for the kid!

  44. PassingThru Says:

    Darden! It isnt just the name of a second tier B School!

  45. Rod Munch Says:

    Gabbert looking like the Ryan Griffin in the preseason under Dirk!

  46. BucsFan81 Says:

    The strength of this team is WR it’s going to suck because we are going to have to let some good ones go.

  47. rrsrq Says:


  48. Maniac Buc Says:

    DARDEN! That’s all!!! That’s it!!!!

  49. DaBux Says:

    Passing Thru, I’m following the wife’s lead with a Dole Pineapple Whip topped with Captain Morgan.

    Let’s party.

  50. PassingThru Says:

    That’s why the O Line is so important. Routes can take time to develop

  51. PassingThru Says:

    Good Man, DBux. You married a keeper

  52. Goatfarmer Says:

    All you guys are getting hammered without me. I’m jealous.

  53. Rod Munch Says:

    What in the world is going on with the weather? We should be on our 3rd lightning delay by now.

  54. 99 55 47 20 Says:

    Johnson and Darden looking very good so far

  55. David Says:

    Miller, Grayson, Darden…
    It really seems like only one will make the team as WR #7.
    They’re all about 5’ 8” and fast

    They got some height. Gage is slender and fast.
    Jones is looking fast again. Evans has always been deceptively fast.
    Godwin plays fast.
    Evans 6’5”
    Jones 6’3”
    Godwin 6’1”
    Gage 6’ 0”
    Perriman 6’2”
    Johnson 6’1”

  56. Rod Munch Says:

    It’s a pretty big turnout, I thought there would be half the number of people there.

  57. PassingThru Says:

    Trask… cool, this discussion could get contentious

  58. MadMax Says:

    uh oh, here comes Trask….im pulling for you kid, get it together…..and this is whats needed, throw him out there and see.

  59. Rod Munch Says:

    David – I think the team will keep Miller over Johnson, so I’d swap those two.

    If TJ does slip that far, I doubt he makes the team. In fact the guy who we just saw I think takes that spot, Thompkins, as your return guy. Watch his college tape, he’s ridiculous, looks like D-Jax, super quick start and stop.

    At the same time, Darden and Thompkins would probably make the practice squad, so it’s not a big deal if he was in there.

  60. Rod Munch Says:



  61. Rod Munch Says:

    Trask threw with some zip there, nice, that’s what I want to see on every play, not those soft slow college passes.

  62. PassingThru Says:

    Good protection, and yes, processing is the issue

  63. shak_bucs Says:

    gotta catch that

  64. Rod Munch Says:



  65. shak_bucs Says:

    already love white, hope he shows out.

  66. PassingThru Says:

    Crossen is actually a decent prospect

  67. David Says:

    That was impressive by White. He chipped the guy coming in free and then released for the catch

  68. Rod Munch Says:



  69. David Says:

    Johnson showed up to let everyone know there’s only one or two spots available!

  70. DaBux Says:

    Vaughn just looks too damned tentative.

  71. Rod Munch Says:

    Four 1st downs on this drive, 4 runs up the middle.

    Leftwich in regular season form!

  72. Maniac Buc Says:

    Rod Munch, Miller is not making this team over Johnson, and Darden is not going to the practice. Darden is a lock to make this team. He’s not even really on the bubble.

  73. DoooshLaRue Says:

    Ronde stammering and claiming a “love affair” with Rachaad White, and Chris Myers…..smooth as always….. and pissing Hot Rod Muncher off!

  74. PassingThru Says:

    Trask is getting time

  75. DoooshLaRue Says:

    How ya doing Fancy Man?

  76. David Says:

    From what we’ve read this looks like the best Trask has looked so far this whole camp.

  77. MadMax Says:

    Trask is looking alright….ill admit!

  78. Rod Munch Says:


    So on the 5th 1st down of the series, rather than use that playaction pass – Leftwich goes to shotgun to telegraph a throw!

    Dirk used to do the same thing.

  79. Rod Munch Says:

    DoooshLaRue – I have the radio feed on, so I don’t have to wear form that awful terrible person, Chris Meyers.

  80. PassingThru Says:

    Damn, holding

  81. Rod Munch Says:

    6th first down, 5th run up the middle! Finally it’s works! Thanks to a defensive penalty.

  82. Rod Munch Says:

    6th run up the middle on 7 1st downs, another amazing 1.8 yard gain!

  83. David Says:

    Munch… So you missed the other first downplays with Gabbert where not a single one was a run? Relax dude, Letwhich has been phenomenal the last few years.

    Besides, it’s preseason. They’re trying to evaluate lineman. Next series they might do all deep passes. You can’t go buy game plans in preseason.

  84. BucsFan81 Says:

    Trask didn’t look to bad on this drive. I hope we get to see a lot of him this pre season.

  85. David Says:

    Munch… And they pounded it in while looking at their lineman, evaluating a young TE at blocking and got a touchdown. Your ignorance of football is showing. There is no game plan in preseason. The plan is to evaluate

  86. Rod Munch Says:

    David – I’m just being a smarta.., as I stated above. As long as Leftwich isn’t doing this in the regular season, I don’t really care.

  87. MadMax Says:

    That was a great drive….im loving this!

  88. Netwalker Says:

    Hey Rod, three strait runs up the middle…. Touchdown!!!!!

  89. Rod Munch Says:

    Trask looked way more comfortable on that drive than he did at any point last preseason. He also looked like he was throwing an NFL ball. He underthrew the deep ball, but that happens to everyone, but otherwise looked pretty good, wasn’t just lobbing the ball like he was doing last preseason whenever he got pressure.

  90. dbbuc711 Says:

    Dang. Trask looked pretty darn good.

  91. 99 55 47 20 Says:

    Maybe Bucs running up the middle so often in training camp/tonight to give interior offensive line some extra work there

  92. BradyBucs Says:


    I don’t want to read another whiney piece about how Trask is struggling. He’s playing just fine and has plenty of talent and will only get better and better with more reps.

  93. Rod Munch Says:

    We have what should be the NFL’s all-time best passing game this season, and people want more runs up the middle for 1.8-yards. LOL!

    If that’s what you want, that’s what Leftwich is going to give up.

    Thankfully Brady will be under center and will audible out of those calls.

  94. 99 55 47 20 Says:

    Solid scoring drives tonight

  95. PassingThru Says:

    Major Anthony Nelson

  96. Ausgust 1976 Buc Says:

    Just win Baby!!!
    RUN RUN RUN- PASS PASS PASS, Do not give a rip.
    All the losing since 1976, I do not care what it looks like, JUST WIN, Losing sux.

    I do not prefer neanderthal football, would rather not see it, but if the final score is better than the other team, so be it.

    GO BUCS!!!!

  97. The Beer Whisperer Says:

    Yep, Kyle Trask looks cool as a cucumber.

    I’m happy for him. He was taking a lot of flak here, in the “peanut gallery”, lol

  98. T REX Says:

    No way you can take anything from this game.

    So many starters out. It’s a scrimmage.

  99. BradyBucs Says:


  100. Rod Munch Says:

    Bucs are getting good pressure, they’re just playing so far off the receivers, that the Dolphins are getting yards.

    Again, just an observation, I know it’s preseason and we run vanilla defenses and offenses. Still, if you don’t talk about what is happening, there’s nothing to talk about.

  101. DaBux Says:

    Good to see Nelson playing well. We’re going to need him.

  102. The Beer Whisperer Says:

    If the NFL was easy, I’d be doing it.

  103. Rod Munch Says:

    T REX – Yeah, I agree with, although with Trask it’s a positive that his balls looked like they had NFL velocity. He had to fix that before he’d do anything in the NFL, and under pressure he didn’t revert to his college slow ball like he did last preseason. But I’d rather see him do this against more than 3rd and 4th and 5th stringers.

  104. Rod Munch Says:

    The Beer Whisperer – Dude, I’ve won over 1000 Super Bowls in Madden since 1990, so I’m sort of a pro.

  105. Rod Munch Says:

    I don’t like that White is playing now, it means he’s way down the depth chart.

  106. 99 55 47 20 Says:

    Gill and Nelson will be fine for our pass rush depth

  107. SB~LV Says:

    If only regular season games were this fast?

  108. David Says:


    Personally I want to see 50-50 for runs (from tackle to tackle) and passing. They are best as a play action team, so they need to mix that in.
    Vaughn and White are both better going just inside or outside the tackle.
    I agree though, they are going to pass it A LOT. I think since Brady’s been here they’re around 65% to 35% running. I wouldn’t be surprised if that decreases a little now that Bowles is coach, it would benefit the defense.
    But, it really depends on Hainsey and Stinnie

  109. Rod Munch Says:

    Alumni news: Dare Ogunbowale leads the Texans in receiving yards as of the moment, with 1 catch for 8 yards.

  110. Rod Munch Says:

    Well I spoke too soon – Trask under pressure throws a powder puff college ball there.

  111. David Says:

    Well that was the first bad play by Trask. That pocket was collapsing quickly, he needs to go through reads faster. He could’ve dumped that off almost immediately when White had space

  112. BradyBucs Says:

    PLEEEEEEEEEEASE. That was hardly a bad play by Trask. The pocket collapsed on him and White could have caught that.

  113. NeverGIVEup Says:

    White just pulled an OJ Howard

  114. shak_bucs Says:

    ugly turn of events lol

  115. David Says:

    So did the rookie get burned or was there supposed to be safety help? Either way… Oops

  116. Rod Munch Says:

    David – So you want the Ray Perkins offense? No thanks, I lived through that, and don’t want to see it again. If we don’t have all our WRs injured last year, we win another SB. As they say, if it’s not broke, don’t fix it.

    The reason we’ve loaded up on WRs is to throw the ball, if all we want to do is run it up the middle on half the plays, then we should have spent money on a fullback.

    But not to worry, when Leftwich gets a HC job, that team will run it more than 50% of the time, and be one of the worst in the NFL. Just wait and see.

  117. IrishTony Says:

    You cannot I repeat cannot throw a pick in preseason! Jesus

  118. Rod Munch Says:

    The problem on that trask pass as he reverted to the college version of himself, and threw a very accurate ball way too slowly, without NFL velocity, and of course it was intercepted. You need to fire everything in, you can’t lob stuff, if he put more zip on it, it’s not intercepted.

    It’s not the worst play ever, and he can learn from it, simple message, zip the ball in there or eat it.

  119. David Says:


    Not at all. I am just saying, instead of throwing at 65% I would not be surprised if it drops down to abput 63%, about 2-3 more runs per game just because Bowles is slightly more conservative and it would benefit the defense.

    It will barely be noticeable but it will add up in minutes for the D line to rest.

  120. NeverGIVEup Says:

    This INT was 100 percent on White. Dont be stupid

  121. shak_bucs Says:


  122. PassingThru Says:


  123. NeverGIVEup Says:

    Fumble??? I doubt it

  124. NeverGIVEup Says:

    Ok my bad. OL got owned

  125. DaBux Says:

    Kyle Trash.

    Typical Gator QB.

  126. George Says:

    I have seen Hainsey make some nice blocks tonight. Interested to hear what other observers think

  127. David Says:

    Damn. Trask suddenly has two turnovers because his sense in the pocket was lacking.

    Trash has a few weeks to really ball out after this mess or his confidence is going to derail any potential that could have been there

  128. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    Smith gave up that fumble. Wait. He wasn’t in there. The ups guy gave it up.

  129. Rod Munch Says:

    Send him back out there and tell him to get a TD, don’t just run it up the middle and run the clock out.

  130. MadMax Says:

    Wow, just when i was praising Trask….ok then

  131. BucsFan81 Says:

    Ok Trask sucks. We better hope like hell Brady doesn’t get hurt. Not impressed with any of the backup QB on this roster.

  132. BradyBucs Says:

    Hardly Trask’s fault. Terrible protection.

    Rod Munch – you’re clueless. “College ball with no NFL velocity.” ROFLMAO. It was a dump pass when he was under pressure. There’s no QB in the league that’s going to wind up and whip that ball to White, there was no time to plant his feet or take a larger windup. GET A CLUE.

  133. IrishTony Says:

    Trask’s big debut isn’t going very well.

  134. ClwJB Says:

    OLine is a joke now

  135. NeverGIVEup Says:

    MAX, you cant put that all on Trask

  136. BradyBucs Says:


    Anyone blaming those turnovers on Trask is a CASUAL FAN that doesn’t know football. Tom Brady in his prime wasn’t going to avoid that fumble due to terrible protection while in motion to pass.

  137. PassingThru Says:

    Right after the great JJ Howland showed that he’s the superior Ivy Leaguer to Brate

  138. cmurda Says:

    Wow. 5th round pick corner got Licht wanting a 5th round redo. Not even in the right zip code on the Dolphins TD. The O Line depth certainly not very inspiring to put it gently.

  139. David Says:

    Maybe White should have caught the one pass, maybe the O line should have blocked better during the fumble.
    The bottom line is Trask needs to have better pocket presents.
    I have been rooting for the guy big-time, I even wanted them to draft him (although I thought it would be third round).

    But…. The way he stands in the pocket when he has protection and those two turnovers, all of it tells me he does not go through his progressions quickly enough and that he does not have a great pocket presence.

    Not looking good for him.

  140. Rod Munch Says:

    David – I don’t disagree with you, I think we’ll see slightly more runs. I don’t have an issue with that so long as it’s not so predictable. We don’t need 5 runs up the middle on 1st down in a row, just switch it up, run up the middle on 2nd down, then use that playaction on 1st down. Tonight, and what we saw last year, Leftwich will literally go to shotgun to throw on 1st instead of using playaction. If they just mix that up, they’ll be a lot better off as far as the run game goes.

  141. PassingThru Says:

    No cmurda

  142. BradyBucs Says:

    DAVID – LOL. There was no time to “go through progressions” as the pocket immediately collapsed.

    Man, you casual fans are hilarious in your analysis of the game.

  143. MadMax Says:

    I know, but it happened last preseason, the ball comes out of his hand because hes panick throwing….is what it is….maybe he’ll learn to tuck and take the sack.

  144. Rod Munch Says:

    BradyBucs – what I said kiddo, was don’t throw that ball if you can’t get any zip on it. Eat the ball, if you throw softballs, they get intercepted.

  145. NeverGIVEup Says:

    The JBF practice Notes makes sense now. Blame Trask for the team failures.

  146. PassingThru Says:

    That’s the problem with Johnson. Has to reduce those drops

  147. cmurda Says:

    Preseason or not. WTF are you doing Byron? 3 timeouts and just let the clock run down 20 seconds for noodle arm to throw it out of bounds. There’s nothing at all to like about Trask. Not a fan of the wasted pick.

  148. David Says:


    When you stand in the pocket flat footed for a long time when you have protection before throwing… And when the pocket collapses & you don’t feel it and throw an interception and a fumble…
    That’s on the quarterback. He needs to go through his reads quicker. He needs to have better pocket presence.

    So far he seems to look at his first read and if it’s not there he stands around and the rush gets to him and he dumps it.
    I have yet to see him pass to a second or third read. It does not look good for him and I am a fan

  149. Rod Munch Says:

    Trask has to get the ball out faster, but that’s what preseason is for.

  150. PassingThru Says:

    Sigh, Trask should have taken less time

  151. Rod Munch Says:

    Then the sissy run up the middle… puke.

    It’s preseason, and Leftwich just runs the clock out on this series.

    At least we get to see our high draft pick punter.

  152. PassingThru Says:

    Trask just isn’t a fast processor. Some QBs have it…. some don’t

  153. Rod Munch Says:

    That was a very good punt, good distance, puts it at the sideline so there is no return.

  154. NeverGIVEup Says:

    I agree, Trask should have taken the sack each time cause you know. Why try to do something if nothing is there

  155. BradyBucs Says:

    David – you have no clue what you’re talking about. Protection collapsed on that play immediately and he stepped to the right to try and avoid it and got it. Left tackle blew his assignment.

    FACT: If it wasn’t for White bobbling that circus INT and Johnson and Otton dropping passes, Trask would have a 90% COMPLETION RATE right now.

  156. ClwJB Says:

    Trask is very flat footed in the pocket, but he is 6’5”, not
    Like he can’t see down the field – not fair with the garbage OLine he has

  157. David Says:

    … Don’t try to sound arrogant and call me a casual fan. I know more about football then you can imagine.

    The fumble was not a matter of going to progressions. The fumble and INT were about feeling the pocket collapse and immediately dump it off to the running back. While the running back is open. He didn’t.

    Most of the passes he completed were immediately to his first read or… He stood around going through progression extremely slowly before dumping it short.

    The bottom line is he looks horrible. Even on completed passes he’s not doing what is necessary of an NFL quarterback.

  158. HomerSimpsonRocks Says:

    Staring down receivers. He’s a project.

  159. BradyBucs Says:


    Bowles just said it, they haven’t protected Trask well enough and he’s been playing great.

    As I said above, if it wasn’t for the two drops that hit receivers in the hands, Trask right now has a 90% COMPLETION PERCENTAGE. 90%.

  160. David Says:


    I am a Trask fan. I was glad they drafted him. But I can admit mistakes and reality, a couple years in and there are no signs of progress going on. None.

  161. NeverGIVEup Says:

    The INT was 100 percent an OJ Howard Replay… ONLY BETTER

  162. BradyBucs Says:

    David – you ARE clueless. Bowles just literally said the opposite in his interview. I’ll take Bowles’ word over yours.


  163. IrishTony Says:

    These pre season games are an absolute waste of time.

  164. NeverGIVEup Says:

    BOOM indeed

  165. NeverGIVEup Says:

    Such a waste of time

  166. David Says:

    Irish Tony

    Only for starters. They’re absolutely necessary for second and third string and people trying to make the team. What’s ridiculous about them is how they price them into season-ticket holders. That’s garbage

  167. BradyBucs Says:

    David – no signs of progress? Trask hasn’t even had much playing time or many reps in practice! 90% of the work goes to Brady & Gabbert.

    Man, some of you “fans” are ridiculous.

  168. IrishTony Says:

    My philosophy has always been preseason is all about the first quarter.

  169. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Hillarious reading the first half of post on here praising Trask as the Bucs future for throwing a couple of checkdowns

    Two turnovers later…..

  170. Rod Munch Says:

    BradyBucs – calm down fanboi. Sorry that you’re deeply offended that anyone would say anything that isn’t 100% positive about your boyfriend, but that’s the internet for you.

    Trask looked good up until he didn’t.

    That’s what happens with young QBs who haven’t played a lot.

  171. NeverGIVEup Says:

    David, I actually agree with you on the ticket prices. They should be free as they are just PRACTICES after all

  172. David Says:


    Of course there was bad blocking on those two PLAYS. LOL. No one is claiming there wasn’t. The quarterback has to feel that immediately and dump the ball off or eat it.

    You enjoy your fantasy land. The bottom line is he is not doing well. Like I said, every completed pass was to his first read
    after he stood there for a long time because he’s reading the routes really slowly and then dumping it short.

    He should be way beyond this and feeling the pocket and going through progressions.

    If you have too much of a man crush to admit that or too ignorant of football to understand that, then I don’t know what to tell you. Enjoy watching your boy ride the bench and get cut by next year

  173. Rod Munch Says:

    Did they install new seats at the stadium? For some reason the place looks newer tonight than it normally does. Something looks different. Maybe they finally power washed the place, I’m not sure.

    Not, to be sure, that it looked old or anything, but it was showing its age, but tonight, it looks really clean, more so than normal.

  174. BradyBucs Says:

    Rod – criticism of Trask (or anyone player) is fine, but at least been correct about it. People blaming a blown assignment by the left tackle as somehow Trask’s fault that he got hit on his blindside and fumbled is A JOKE.

    And YOU blaming White’s bobbled catch/INT on Trask is also a joke. Even Bowles just said that was on White and the defender made a great play.

  175. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    So much to learn from all these ex nfl professionals.

  176. David Says:

    Irish Tony
    Well this game the first quarter didn’t even have starters for the most part. This game is about watching rookies and the receiver depth.

  177. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    Actually reading the comments here one becomes dumber in football.

  178. BradyBucs Says:


    HAHAHA a QB should now somehow ‘feel’ a missed block on his BLINDSIDE that he has no view of?

    Dude, all of us long-time NFL fans welcome you to your 1st season! Enjoy the game, but be sure to learn more about it before spouting your nonsense.

  179. NeverGIVEup Says:

    This is a live chat. Keep your post short if you want to be taken seriously

  180. Kentucky Buc Says:

    Installed 3200 new seats Rod

  181. Anonymous Says:

    It’s ridiculous that there is such criticism of Trask as it was blatantly the fault of White and/or the offensive line regarding those turnovers.

  182. David Says:

    Brady Bucks… My god you’re hardheaded. I am not blaming Trask for white or a bad block. I am blaming him as an NFL quarterback not understanding that the pocket is immediately collapsing and he needs to dump it or eat it.
    I’m blaming him for not having the ability to read through his progressions fast enough to do anything other than hit the first read or stand there for a long time before checking it down.

    Newsflash, there’s going to be times in real games where the pocket collapses fast. At that point it is up to the quarterback to handle it properly.
    So far Trask has failed miserably.

  183. Oxycondoms Says:

    Running it on third down before the half against backups isnt a good sign. Starting to feel bad for trask , he doesnt exude confidence

  184. Mark2001 Says:

    Irish…for the vets they are a waste of time. For the young guys…the closest thing to real game play some will experience all yesr.

  185. Rod Munch Says:

    Kentucky Buc – OH yeah! That’s why it looks different, I read about that and totally forgot. Thanks!

  186. Defense Rules Says:

    Interesting 1st half. Tyler Johnson’s gonna stick & have a good year for us. Darden even impressed me. Trask looked OK but his OLine certainly didn’t do him any favors.

    Keyed in on Logan Hall on a bunch of plays when he was in the interior. Not very impressed; very little penetration. Got manhandled on a number of plays by 2nd & 3rd stringers. Doubt that he’ll see much interior time playing like that. Probably just needs to pack on about 15-20 lbs of muscle and get stronger.

  187. David Says:


    Now you’re just being an a hole. Dude I played division one ball. I’ve coached at a higher level than high school. So take your ignorance somewhere else, you’re nothing but a Trask fan boy.
    I get it, I was happy they drafted him. I thought he was going to be good but it’s two years in and there is absolutely no progress being shown. Someday you will see it.

  188. shak_bucs Says:

    camarda has been bad

  189. Rod Munch Says:

    Defense Rules – Agree on Tyler, I think he makes the team, and he looked good (although did have one dumb drop as usual). But I’d like to see him doing it against better players, his issue is getting open vs starters – but, so long as he’s a depth guy he can be productive, I think.

  190. NeverGIVEup Says:

    Playoff Flashback

  191. NeverGIVEup Says:

    It was Trask’s fault

  192. Ausgust 1976 Buc Says:

    Brady-Trask-Joe Mama at QB, do not care, JUST WIN

    GO BUCS!!!

  193. GOB Says:

    Pre-season football is about as useful as boobs on a boar. It’s only a matter of time before the owners tack on another, extra game. How the hell are you supposed to evaluate talent, without starters around these guys? #abolish the pre-season.

  194. Rod Munch Says:

    This is the punter that runs a 4.4 40, if they have any balls, they’ll run some fakes with him early in the season.

  195. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    Trask couldn’t cover a high schooler. Why is he on defense?

  196. PassingThru Says:

    Again, I’m jealous. I wish Licht had signed Crossen

  197. BradyBucs Says:


    You’re a CLOWN. I’m a 3-time pee wee football All American.

    Seriously, though, even Ronde just said it… Trask looked great on his first drive that lead to a TD. Bowles already said at half they haven’t protected Trask well enough. No QB is going to do much with bad protection. Trask also threw one away when his routes were covered. A QB can’t do squat when the left tackle completely blows his assignment and his man gets a free run at the QB. Not Mahomes, not Rodgers, not Brady… NO QB is going to avoid getting hit and having the ball knocked out from the blind side. To argue otherwise is DUMB.

    Trask has nearly a 90% completion rate without the 2 drops and hasn’t taken a bunch of sacks. I’d say he’s playing just fine.

  198. NeverGIVEup Says:

    Oh dang, Trask just gave up. Awe crap we are on D

  199. Rod Munch Says:

    GOB – Who are you to say that the boar doesn’t identify as having boobs? Watch it with the gender shaming.

  200. David Says:


    Did you see the rookie punter Air one out 70 yards in the air, finish at 82 yards in the end zone for net 62 yard touchback? I forget what team is on.

  201. David Says:


    I don’t care what Bowles says in a three second interview jogging into the locker room and I don’t care what Barber says. It’s about evaluating what a quarterback does when there’s pressure and evaluating him when he has a lot of time reading his progressions. He’s not doing well. Now just go away. Your ignorance is astounding

  202. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    Newsflash: Rod munch hired as lions GM. Couldn’t be any worse could he?

  203. David Says:

    There have been two players stand out, Nelson and Johnson. Not a surprise for either. Of course Johnson still had an easy drop. That has got to end

  204. Rod Munch Says:

    David – no, I didn’t see it, but it didn’t annoy me we spent a high pick on a punter who wasn’t THE punter that everyone was talking about, who had the giant leg. But we do have the fastest punter in the NFL, for whatever that is worth.

    Hopefully Licht got this one right, because he absolutely seemed to overdraft our guy. But I’m not going to be down on him, his college numbers are very good, and if he can do that in the NFL, he’ll be a very good pro punter.

  205. Rod Munch Says:

    Jack Burton Mercer – If I’m the Lions GM, they’re winning 6 SB’s in the next 10 years. I guarantee it, I just need a guaranteed 10-year contract to make it happen.

  206. JimmyJack Says:

    I like it! We look good. Rookies looking very nice except #27(he needs some work).

    Trask making rookie mistakes. Cant have that as backup. #3 is best spot for him.

  207. David Says:

    Damn. White is smooth, patient, and deceptive with his burst

  208. Crickett Baker Says:

    I am constrained to listen to the game on the radio. From listening, it sure doesn’t sound like our offense is the only problem. And now Gio is hurt.

  209. Rod Munch Says:

    Oh man, why is White still playing in garbage time? I thought he had worked his way up the depth chart already.

  210. David Says:

    Nice 👍

  211. JimmyJack Says:

    Our depth at OT is a major red flag to me.

  212. Rod Munch Says:

    Arians watching Leftwich running it up the middle, and just staring him down from his club suite…

  213. PassingThru Says:

    Wow, JJ Howland!!!

    What school did this guy go to?

  214. Rod Munch Says:

    Now that was a nice throw by Trask, good velocity.

    With Trask it’s all about him throwing with velocity and breaking the habit of those soft slow college balls, and he looked good there.

  215. cmurda Says:

    So far White is everything I’ve hoped. He’s shown a lot of patience, good hands and quick burst. Very slick. Definitely a Leveon Bell style which I dig.

  216. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    Velocity, velocity

  217. David Says:

    Really wanted to see Miller and Grayson but I don’t think they’re playing anymore

  218. JimmyJack Says:

    Baker our offense looks good to me. Moving the ball well

  219. Rod Munch Says:

    Seriously, why is White playing? He clearly looks like the best played on the field and shouldn’t be in with these scrubs right now. Put Vaughn in there and let him get these garbage snaps.

  220. BradyBucs Says:


    You just literally said trust YOU and your “NFL expertise” over Todd Bowles and Ronde Barber.

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA. Man… stick to watching golf.

  221. NeverGIVEup Says:

    WOW, what a throw

  222. David Says:

    That TD and the pass down the middle seam to the tight end we’re both very good from Trask.


  223. BradyBucs Says:


    Queue “He’s only playing against scrubs” excuses.

  224. PassingThru Says:

    Good touch by Trask. I have to give him credit on that pass.

  225. Lesko_Brandon Says:

    Just give Trask a good offensive linemen, and he’ll be very good.

  226. NeverGIVEup Says:

    It wasnt Trask. It was LUCK???

  227. JimmyJack Says:

    Rod White needs the reps bro

  228. 99 55 47 20 Says:

    Not bad for a gator qb .. looks like he’s finding his rhythm now

  229. Rod Munch Says:

    Nice throw by Trask on the TD, BUT, against NFL starters, that’s not complete, that was a college pass vs college players. But still, it worked, got him some confidence that he needed.

    But still, that big pass down the middle earlier was very impressive, threw a perfect ball, got there quickly, that was an NFL pass.

  230. JimmyJack Says:

    #27 needs the reps the most. Suprized he wasnt back out there.

  231. Mark2001 Says:

    Trask is a work in progress. At this point, that is enough.

  232. Bird Says:

    Bradybucs has a mangina

  233. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    What a crappy pass. Should maybe have been more catchable. Lucky he had Evans in there to make him look good.

  234. SB~LV Says:

    White is just as described
    Looks like all the great runners
    Only thing left is to see him stick his foot in the ground and end for the green!

  235. David Says:

    Brady Buck… That’s not what I said. Not at all. I pointed out some facts but you’re too much of a little fan girl to see it.
    I’m capable of watching a play and seeing reality and not just believing something because Ronde Barber says so.
    So far this quarter Trask has looked great. I can just admit what reality is. Try it.
    The first half was not that good for him whether he had protection or not.

  236. 99 55 47 20 Says:

    White already looking like the real deal

  237. Rod Munch Says:

    JimmyJack – I don’t know about White needing reps, rookie RBs can usually get their reps in practice, unless they’re slow to pick things up. Mainly you just want to see him pass blocking before you’d trust him out there with Brady.

    But as long as he doesn’t get hurt, I have no real issues, just disappointed if he’s actually behind Vaughn on the depth chart.

  238. PassingThru Says:

    Well #27 was a factor on ST

  239. BradyBucs Says:


    HAHA you have excuses for everything. “Not an NFL pass” LOL. It was an over the shoulder touch pass. You’re hilarious.

    You’ve been saying ever since Trask was drafted that he doesn’t have “NFL arm strength” to make NFL throws. I guess you’re now eating a bit of crow seeing his passes like that 29 yarder to the TE earlier.

    I told you when he was drafted that he has plenty of arm strength but manages it well in exchange for more accuracy. That’s why he was the most accurate QB in college when he had his big year.

  240. Crickett Baker Says:

    That’s better.

  241. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    Munch, sterns is a substitute teacher in 2 weeks. The pass was perfectly placed. Backup lineman. Keep working.

  242. BradyBucs Says:


    Again, you’re clueless. He had a great first half. Aside from the bobbled circus INT and the blindside sack fumble, he played near perfectly with what he was given.

  243. David Says:

    What’s funny is Brady Buck thinks everyone is a Trask hater… I was actually glad they drafted him. I’m just capable of looking at reality. And from what I’ve seen in the first half I doubt he’s on the team next year. I hope I’m wrong. I hope he progresses tremendously and becomes an all pro, and I will admit I’m wrong when it happens… but so far, other than a couple good throws, I have not seen it

  244. Buczilla Says:

    Trask and White look gooder than a mf so far. So nice to have almost real football!

  245. JimmyJack Says:

    Rod I wouldnt worry about depth chart. If White can be a passing weapon he will carve out his own nitch in this offense.

    He might be more in competion with Bernard and Vaugh is Fournettes primary backup.

  246. BradyBucs Says:


    Sorry bro but you know very little about football if you think Trask isn’t playing well tonight.

  247. Rod Munch Says:

    BradyBucs – actually what I said, stupid, was his college tape doesn’t show NFL velocity, and he needs to throw with velocity if he’s going to be an NFL QB. See Danny Wuerffel, and as a Florida fanboi you should be familiar with him.

    But if you kept reading what I said, which you didn’t because you’re an idiot, was that unlike Wuerffel, Trask does have the ability to throw to an NFL ball, it’s not above average or anything, but it’s good enough, so long as he’s not reverting to his college form.

    If you’re too dumb to pick up on what are NFL passes and what are college passes, that’s on you and your parents incestious relationship that resulted in your brain damage.

  248. BradyBucs Says:

    Rachaad White is a future NFL super star. BOOK IT.

  249. David Says:

    Brady Buc

    Sure lol

    You do realize that when a quarterback stands in a pocket for several seconds, almost every quarterback on an NFL roster right now can look good in completing a pass?
    If you are pocket passer you need feel in the pocket, you need to be able to move in the pocket, you need to be able to go through progressions fast. You’re too much of a fan girl and too ignorant to have this discussion with anymore. I hope he goes 10 for 10 with three touchdowns from here on out. I hope I see massive progression. Maybe it was nerves in the first half and he didn’t wanna get rid of the ball, I don’t know, but he’s looking much better right now.

  250. JimmyJack Says:

    Joe needs to do an article about how we actually saw a fullback out there. The 2 rookie TEs look really solid

  251. David Says:


    THAT I AGREE WITH! WHITE shows awesome potential.

    We’re on the same team, I guess we need to keep that in mind

  252. JimmyJack Says:

    Trask showed why we drafted him on several throws tonight. He also showed why hes #3 on a few of his fatal errors

  253. David Says:

    Damn, cannot wait to see Hicks and VEA and Hall and JTS and Shaq!!!!

  254. BradyBucs Says:


    Nice REVISIONIST HISTORY. Dude, you said even his COMBINE workout showed a lack of NFL arm strength. So funny how you LIE and try to cover your tracks when you’re wrong (and you often are).

    He’s never showed a lack of arm strength. He never threw looping floaters like Wuerffel did. He threw soft touch passes when necessary but also threw passes on a rope.

    Sorry, but you’re completely WRONG about what you had previously said about Trask’s arm.

    But keep trying, old man, keep trying to dig yourself out of how wrong you were.

  255. David Says:

    Seems like the Buccaneers have a lot of small quick receivers trying to get that 6th & 7th spot. Spots 1-5 (potentially 6) are all taken by 6’- 6’5” guys

  256. David Says:


    I completely agree with that too. I have no idea where the arm strength nonsense came from. Trask had plenty of arm strength at Florida. He could make every throw the NFL requires.

  257. PassingThru Says:


  258. PassingThru Says:

    With a better O Line, White can be very dangerous

  259. GOB Says:

    Sorry Rod. About as useful as things on the it. Didn’t mean to offend.

  260. shak_bucs Says:

    yes borregales!

  261. PassingThru Says:

    I like the way White waits for running lanes to develop

  262. David Says:

    Nice! That’s good to see because I don’t think Succup can hit outside of 50 anymore

  263. Lesko_Brandon Says:

    That’s a long FG…. Succop cant even do a 45

  264. DoooshLaRue Says:

    Ronde, you were a truly great DB,one of the best.
    You’re also a helluva good guy.

    But you suck at announcing.

    Get a job with an NFL team and maximize your skills bro!

  265. JimmyJack Says:

    I think this is the 4th time Trask has drove the ball down a long field. The mistakes can be forgiven(for now) but you gotta be happy with how the kid has looked tonight.

  266. David Says:

    Earlier I said Nelson flashed and showed up and Johnson has flashed and showed up… Need to add White in to that mix. Looks great.
    And the receiver who just reversed field… Unfortunately for him he’s just putting game tape out there for another team

  267. BradyBucs Says:

    David, as for “we’re on the same team” of course we are. This is just preseason game chatter for fun. 🙂

  268. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Trask entire highlight film at Florida is him throwing floaty passes to Kyle Pitts. The lack of arm strength is obvious….super tight throwing motion the ball has no zip to it whatssoever

  269. BradyBucs Says:

    I want to see White run behind the starting OL. His lateral cuts are amazing if you’ve watched his ASU highlights.

  270. Oxycondoms Says:

    Can bucs keep this kicker for the long fgs and succop for mid range? As far as trask is concerned nice throws but on first reads vs backups. The game looks too fast for him still

  271. David Says:


    He is definitely improving over the first half. I would really like to see him move in the pocket a little and hit a second or third read.

  272. Dooley Says:

    Imagine talking about a 2nd year QB “regressing” because he’s stinking it up in practice lol

  273. BradyBucs Says:


    BZZZZ WRONG. Another liar that hasn’t seen all his UF games.

  274. BradyBucs Says:

    Kyle Pitts only had 770 yards receiving at UF in 2020.

    Trask threw for 4,283 yards that year for 43 TDs and only 8 INTs.

    Trask hardly only threw floaters.

  275. David Says:


    I agree. White looks like the real deal. So smooth. He really does remind you of Eric Dickerson.

    I thought what was most impressive was in the first half, Trask was about to be in trouble so White chipped a free rusher and then released to catch the dump pass and get a good gain. Something Rojo could never figure out

  276. Rod Munch Says:

    BradyBucs – That’s literally not what I said, I said watching his pro-day is why I had some hope as his college film shows a guy not making NFL throws, but he made some pro-throws at his pro-day and they could build from that. Also last preseason I said I was encouraged that he made some pro throws and showed that he has an adequate NFL arm, which is good enough. I also said when he gets in trouble, he reverts back to soft lob passes, and that’s what I hope he gets cleaned up. For the most part I thought he’s done that tonight, just on the pass to White, if he can’t fire it in there, he’s got to learn to eat the ball. Regardless of what White did, if the ball is there right away, that doesn’t happen. At the same time I said I didn’t think it was that bad of a play, and he can learn from it. I did not blame him for the strip sack.

    I’m sorry you get super offended if anyone isn’t licking his a– on every play, but realize that’s a you thing, you’re a nutjob who is mentally unbalanced, but that comes with being a fan boi.

  277. BradyBucs Says:

    Fair enough, Rod. I just recalled you saying he only had an ‘average’ NFL arm and lacked velocity when others of us tried to explain to you that the vertical passing game he ran at UF often called for over the top softer touch passes. That’s how they burned teams all the team with deep streak routes up the sidelines.

  278. David Says:

    Glad to see White is not in anymore. He is looking like he will be Lenny’s back up, let’s not risk injury

  279. Rod Munch Says:

    You should go look up Geiger’s highlights, it’s some of the best highlights you’ll ever see for a WR. He is a shifty shifty guy. Seems like that would translate to being a returner.

  280. NeverGIVEup Says:

    OMG, no one wants to read a chapter during a live chat

  281. GOB Says:

    Easy boys, it’s the freaking pre-season. Plenty of time to get fired up when it counts

  282. NeverGIVEup Says:

    Bottom line, Trask is better than all his detractors

  283. JimmyJack Says:

    Listen. KYLE TASK is a GATOR. That means we all should like him.

  284. BradyBucs Says:

    Did Logan Hall play many snaps tonight?

  285. NeverGIVEup Says:

    Only one winning here is the Joes Now we know what this weekd articles will be about

  286. BradyBucs Says:

    Kyle Trask on a pro-rated pace for *400 YARDS* passing since he didn’t play in the 1st quarter. Amazing.

  287. shak_bucs Says:

    that was a nice one!

  288. JimmyJack Says:

    As good as Trask has been. I still want that one back to Scotty. Nicely thrown but Scotty had a step on that guy, cant miss those too often in this offense.

  289. David Says:


    They all look like the same guy. I just can’t see where they have room.



  290. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    Ha. Trask laughing, munching, all the way to the bank. At 23 he knows more about football than all the ex football coaches, gms and athletic directors who have ever commented here.

  291. David Says:


    Yes. You can see Miller slow up with a short step briefly because it was just a little underthrown and he was trying to position is body

  292. Rod Munch Says:

    BradyBucs – An average arm is fine – it means he CAN throw an NFL pass, there’s literally nothing wrong with that. Brady had an average NFL arm early in his career. What I was concerned about was that he had a below average NFL arm, because his college tape reminded me so much of Danny Wuerffel with all the soft touch passes. That stuff works in college, it’s never worked, with anyone, in the NFL. BUT, as I said, unlike Wuerffel, Trask has an arm that gets him to average velocity, and so long as you can get to that min, you’re fine, that’s good enough and it means you have a chance.

    As we know from Brady, he went from an average arm early on, to literally throwing harder at 44 than he did at 24. So long as the natural ability is there, you can improve arm talent – to a point, anyways.

    I’m very neutral on Trask. He’s not who I would have picked, I wouldn’t have taken a QB at all, and if I did, as I said at the time, I’d have taken Mills, but I have nothing against Trask. I don’t want to see the Bucs wasting draft picks. I grew up a Gators fan, loved Wuerffel and 100% thought he’d be great in the NFL. He had such amazing accuracy, that I didn’t think it mattered if he didn’t zip everything in. That’s where I learned the lesson about NFL velocity vs college velocity.

  293. David Says:

    There were a few lapses in coverage by backups but at every level the run defense has been impressive

  294. JimmyJack Says:

    Was that our rookie punter? He dropped that sucker right on the 5.

  295. David Says:

    Yes. The rookie punter and kicker have looked good.
    I’d love to see them win the positions, that frees Up $$$$$

  296. David Says:

    Great effort

  297. Rod Munch Says:

    That INT is closer than I thought it was. He still looks out, but he’s right at the line, I thought for sure he had a foot clearly out of bounds by a foot.

  298. David Says:

    WOW. He might actually have that. Looks like the right toe was touching when he caught it and the left toe tapped before he went out on that last replay

  299. Rod Munch Says:

    David – Yeah, I didn’t think it was close until that last replay, that’s actually very close. Great effort.

  300. cmurda Says:

    That was an INT that not surprisingly the NFL decided not to give us. His feet were in 100%. Even after replay, the NFL can’t get it figured out.

  301. David Says:

    Me neither. Looked clearly out at first.

    Damn, that was real close. That’s what you need from the young guys, constant effort

  302. Rod Munch Says:

    They’ve got good prentration all night.

    Hopefully that holds up when we’re not playing against 3rd and 4th stringers.

  303. cmurda Says:

    It wasn’t just close Rod. Go back and replay that when you can. It was a catch. The NFL just went pillow soft not wanting to overturn because it was close.

  304. David Says:


    I wouldn’t say it was clearly 100% in, we can’t really see what that right toe is doing. In a regular game there would be more cameras. Regardless, that’s the kind of effort needed

    Great sack!

  305. shak_bucs Says:

    we’re 3rd and 4th string too, it’s not like we used our good players and guys that we’re keeping out there.

  306. NeverGIVEup Says:

    Rod Munch no one is reading you books

  307. JimmyJack Says:

    Rod Much dont really wanna argue Trask. Just having fun watching. Did just want to offer a little advice to not rely so much on what his college tape was.

    Hes putting out fresh film right now.

  308. David Says:

    Barber needs to be a little bit more of a homer. He should’ve been really praising that DB for the effort and claiming he was in. 😂

  309. NeverGIVEup Says:

    I want to see to DEEP passed here

  310. David Says:

    Man I am sick of hearing how… They can’t beat New Orleans in the regular season…
    I really hope they spank them in New Orleans in the first game!!!

  311. Rod Munch Says:

    NeverGIVEup – I get it, you’re used to reading on what’s on the stalls of the glory hole where you volunteer, so anything longer than 4 or 5 words and your tiny brain is overloaded. Well, keep in mind that everyone isn’t you, cupcake.

  312. PassingThru Says:

    Got by Dylan Cook for that sack.

  313. NeverGIVEup Says:

    perhaps Rod, but it is not your Rod I am focusing on. Sorry big guy

  314. Mark2001 Says:

    7 step drop call?

  315. BradyBucs Says:

    Why is Bryon calling a 7-step drop on 3rd and short?

  316. cmurda Says:

    Not exactly sure what that 3rd down garbage was but Kyle Trash is not going to be the next starter for this team. Please tell me that. He is an almost guy. Almost good enough. Good enough to be a backup. Will never ever be a worthwhile starter in the NFL. Anybody that watched Gator games knows I’m right. It was a reach pick but still could have value as he would be a decent backup. I have a bridge to sell you if anybody thinks he has the potential to take over as starter in the near future.

  317. Rod Munch Says:

    JimmyJack – I was talking in reference to what I said at the time of the draft as the Florida fanboi was claiming I said literally the opposite of what I said at the time. I said tonight I’m encouraged by the fact he’s throwing NFL passes. I think he’s played well tonight, I’d just like to see him playing vs better players to see how well he handles it. But I’d think everyone wants to see that.

  318. David Says:

    That sack is where I would like to be able to see the whole field. It looks like Trask has time and just holds on until the pass rush gets there but… In fairness to him, we cannot see the receivers. Everyone could be extremely covered. Regardless, he’s a pocket quarterback, he has got to be able to move in the pocket better than that. At least buy another second to move left or right to get rid of it.

    Regardless, he definitely has looked better in the second half and I’m glad he’s getting all this playing time

  319. Rod Munch Says:

    NeverGIVEup – Fair enough.

  320. BradyBucs Says:


    Man, you’re going to be crying yourself to sleep at night for at least the next 5 years when Mr. Kyle Trask is the starting QB for the Bucs in the post-Brady Era.

  321. PassingThru Says:

    Weird call, but perhaps it reflects a lack of trust in the 3rd string OL coupled with Trask not getting rid of the ball quickly. Still weird.

  322. NeverGIVEup Says:

    Do yall not remember our QB before Brady?

  323. cmurda Says:

    @David. yeah, maybe but I watched all the replays and still can’t find the sideline being touched. Anyway, like you said still a great effort.

  324. NeverGIVEup Says:

    LOL, I love you to Rod

  325. Mark2001 Says:

    Trask does seem to react and process about as fast as James did.

  326. David Says:

    Everyone is saying seven step drop… Maybe it wasn’t. Trask was looking at his receivers the whole time he was dropping back. Maybe everyone was covered and he just kept dropping. Hard to tell since we can’t see the whole field

  327. BradyBucs Says:

    Cmurda, you’re going to be very unhappy for the next 5 years when Mr. Kyle Trask is the starting QB for the Bucs once Brady retires.

  328. Mark2001 Says:

    Jameis spell checker.

  329. Rod Munch Says:

    Those extra pads on top of the helmets in practice are absolutely stupid looking. I’d rather have brain damage than look like that.

  330. David Says:

    This LB #53 Has been flashing quite a bit this half.

    that was a nice tackle on the sidelines to get off the blocker and prevent several more yards

  331. David Says:


    No 😂

  332. BradyBucs Says:


    The difference is Trask is patient so he doesn’t throw INTs. Jameis, not so much.

  333. Rod Munch Says:

    BradyBucs – he’s got to be better than 4th on the depth chart before he gets into the HOF. Maybe hold off on taking a victory lap until he at least unseats Ryan Griffin.

  334. BradyBucs Says:


    GO BUCS!

  335. BradyBucs Says:


    If he hasn’t already unseated Griffin in the eyes of the coaches, he wouldn’t be playing 75% of the game.

  336. Rod Munch Says:

    Thompkins is doing a lot of returning tonight. If he wins that job, there’s your #7 WR.

  337. David Says:

    Julio missed a lot of games the last two years. That might be beneficial. As long as he is 100% healthy, less mileage and rested up.

    Can’t wait to see the starting O.

    Just concerned about C & LG

  338. NeverGIVEup Says:

    BS holding call. That guy should be on the roster just cause his name

  339. Rod Munch Says:

    BradyBucs – The reason they’re playing him is to give him that chance. They already know what Griffin can do. The depth chart will be determined when they create the final practice squad, if Griffin is still there, then that means they still don’t trust Trask if Brady AND Gabbert went down.

    With that said, I think Trask will do that – and I hope to God he does so. I do not want to see Griffin on the team or the practice squad.

    Just saying calm down talking about 5-years from now as the Bucs have still never signed a QB they drafted to a 2nd contract.

  340. CrackWise Says:

    Hunter B sent me here

  341. David Says:


    If one of those small speedy guys make it that means Miller or Perriman or Johnson don’t.… And that’s assuming they go 7 deep.
    Personally I think Johnson is a Loch at number five

    I would not rule out trading Perriman or Miller for a fourth or fifth rounder

  342. BucBoy Says:

    LMAO at Rod Munch eating crow for his 4,684 posts saying Trask can’t throw as Rod saw and studied videos on YouTube BWAHAHAHA.

  343. Rod Munch Says:

    Regardless of the competition, with all the talk about Trask melting down in practice, it’s good to see him bounce back from that stretch at the end of the 1st half and play well in the 2nd half.

    Hopefully he can end the game on an up note and win the game.

  344. David Says:

    Damn that’s annoying. He looks good, he looks good, he looks good then he just flashes how much is pocket presence sucks!!

    He’s a pocket quarterback, he has got to be able to move in the pocket and feel the pressure better than this.

  345. Rod Munch Says:

    David – If they can get anything for Miller or Perriman they will, but I don’t think there’s any market out there for either. Maybe, with Miller, you could get a conditional 6th, if you throw in a 7th, but that’s the most they’d get for someone you’re going to cut.

    But I think Miller makes the team just because he seems to have good timing with Brady, and if he was injured last year, as claimed, and he’s healthy now, he’s your longball guy.

    Perriman got some guaranteed money I believe, so I think he’s in.

    Tyler would be the guy on the bubble I think, but he’s an excellent blocker, so you want that as well. But if you keep 7, you’re keeping everyone. But you only keep 7, if your #7 is your return guy.

  346. CrackWise Says:

    Havent seen a pass get “tipped” yet

  347. cmurda Says:

    BradyBucs Says:
    August 13th, 2022 at 10:16 pm
    Cmurda, you’re going to be very unhappy for the next 5 years when Mr. Kyle Trask is the starting QB for the Bucs once Brady retires.

    Yes. I am if that’s the case. I’ll be the biggest Trask fan then while hoping I’m wrong. But I’m not, so here’s hoping Brady decides to play until he’s 50 with the Bucs.

  348. Mark2001 Says:

    Never..thank God the Culverhouse years are over and we no longer feel compelled to keep guys on the TV because of their name. LOL.

  349. Mark2001 Says:


  350. NeverGIVEup Says:

    Havent seen a pass get tipped yet. Per joe s notes

  351. BradyBucs Says:


  352. Rod Munch Says:

    One thing I will say, this has been a pretty fun game to watch. I think people blocked it out, but last preseason was some of the worst, most boring, games I’ve ever seen, ever. This has been a fun game.

  353. Mark2001 Says:

    Kyle Trask player of the game…..

  354. CrackWise Says:

    PLAYER OF THE GAME… Eat your heart out Joe’s

  355. Rod Munch Says:

    I hope post game one of the reports grills Bowles about why White was playing that deep into game. I heard Gino was hurt, but they could have played Vaughn. I hope White isn’t buried on the depth chart.

  356. NeverGIVEup Says:

    PLAYER OF THE GAME… Eat your heart out Joe’s

  357. CrackWise Says:

    NICE… Give me so KT 2 minute drill

  358. David Says:

    Very nice !

  359. CrackWise Says:

    Oh this is gonna be so sweet

  360. David Says:

    Telling buccaneer fans to eat their heart out because the buccaneer did well seems a little ridiculous. No one’s rooting for a player to fail

  361. Rod Munch Says:

    Thompkins really might make the team. Yeah, 4th string defenders, but between production at WR and working as a returner…

    His college highlights, looks like a D-Jax clone, vs suspect competition, albeit.

  362. Rod Munch Says:

    He’ll either be or kicker, or get cut tomorrow.

    The pressure is on.

  363. David Says:

    Awesome. Great drive by Trask. And now giving the rookie a chance to kick a long game winner

  364. CrackWise Says:

    David, have you read the threads Joe has put out about Kyle???

  365. David Says:


    I agree. From what’s coming out of training camp he seems to be out performing Miller, Stearns, Geiger, Darden

    Those are the small speedy guys that are his

  366. Rod Munch Says:

    The Dolphins icing the kicker in preseason. LOL!

    Actually that’s good, let’s put on the pressure.

  367. CrackWise Says:

    South End ZONE….Gerrrrrrrrrrr

  368. Lesko_Brandon Says:

    Wow! put a pressure on the kicker and he sucks

  369. NeverGIVEup Says:

    South End ZONE….Gerrrrrrrrrrr

  370. shak_bucs Says:


  371. Rod Munch Says:

    Damn… he got iced.

  372. BradyBucs Says:


  373. PassingThru Says:


  374. cmurda Says:

    LOL. He’s a Bucs kicker. WTF was that. Succop feeling really good about things. Young man choked and choked hard. When it counted he flubbed it hardcore. I vote no on the young kicker. The kick he made was dicey and he has all kinds of weird knuckling action. No thank you. Another kicking choke. Nothing we aren’t used to.

  375. shak_bucs Says:

    trask is terrible, he shoulda kicked it himself. SOFT!

  376. David Says:

    Well that sucked but I would not be surprised if he ends up being the kicker

  377. Lesko_Brandon Says:

    Succop just released a big sigh of relief !!! hahaha

  378. HomerSimpsonRocks Says:

    Jose with the choke.

  379. shak_bucs Says:

    gotta keep succy now.

  380. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Succop would have nailed it.

  381. cmurda Says:

    I think it was also moronic for us to celebrate like we won the Superbowl because Trask got us in range. There was not one shred of thought of getting closer and not having to rely on a 50 yrd kick. Not exactly the way to win a job.

  382. Mark2001 Says:

    Good. Makes the kicker decision much easier.

  383. Kody Says:



  384. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Succop would have been 6 yards short

  385. IrishTony Says:

    If you can’t make the most important kick then you don’t deserve to start. Another failed kicking experiment. Stick with proven veterans.

  386. Lesko_Brandon Says:

    WR core is pretty good… I think

  387. Yucs2Bucs Says:

    Real Bucs fans are complaining about the first preseason game ??? Wow and what a fun game and glad no one got hurt !! Go Bucs

  388. Rod Munch Says:

    cmurda – only issue is the cap, but I actually agree.

    I thought it was really stupid to cut Gay, even though that prick cost us 2 games, but rookie kickers always do that and Gay clearly showed enough that you knew he’d be good going forward. Stinks they blew that pick, when they actually picked the right guy and just gave up too early.

    But with Brady’s last year, you can’t go with this guy, even if he’s not a rookie. I think Succop just won the job. In fact, if I’m the Bucs, I bring in a new kicker tomorrow since clearly the scrub isn’t getting the job.

  389. HomerSimpsonRocks Says:

    WR core and all
    The other WRs fighting to make the team look good.

  390. cmurda Says:

    shak_bucs Says:

    trask is terrible, he shoulda kicked it himself. SOFT!

    Settle down. he got us to the 3o yard line. Not a Superbowl win. An okay shot at a FG. There was good, there was bad. That’s Trask for you. At the end of it all, it was a loss but it was good to see Trask give us that chance, not so good for the kid kicking it when the pressure was on.

  391. David Says:

    DE Nelson
    WR Johnson
    WR Geiger
    WR Sterns
    RB White
    Trask (yes, I didn’t think his first half was all that great, much much better in the second)
    LB #53 Fatu… something
    RB Barner
    Run defense

    Those are the guys who stepped up and did well

  392. IrishTony Says:

    I detect that they want to keep routes simple and short for Trask. He just doesn’t have pocket savvy to hang on deeper routes.

  393. shak_bucs Says:

    So, you couldn’t tell obvious sarcasm was sarcasm? ok then.

  394. Rod Munch Says:

    Tampabaybucfan – he can make from 49, but regardless, the Bucs could have got it closer, they choose to do a long kick because they wanted to see the kid kick the ball from a distance, since if they choose to keep him, this would be why. Then he missed it. That gets you cut.