Antoine Winfield Won’t Reach For An Excuse For Losing To Rams

February 4th, 2022
Antoine Winfield

Class response.

Joe already noted how Tristan Wirfs has a very bad taste in his mouth for how the 2021 season ended. Pretty sure many Bucs fans had similar feelings.

For example, how many Bucs fans were really stoked last weekend to watch football?

Seems quite a few were like Joe, watchin the games on Championship Sunday but not all that into it.

We will always wonder what might have been if Chris Godwin doesn’t gets injured against the slimy Saints. Or if Wirfs doesn’t go down against the Eagles. You can make a helluva argument that the moment Godwin went down, so too did Bucs’ shot of returning to the Super Bowl. Same with Wirfs.

(Yeah, you could also argue the Bucs’ chances to return to the Super Bowl jogged out of the stadium after Antonio Brown went mental and did his topless jumping jacks in the end zone of MetLife Stadium.)

Antoine Winfield is taking a high road, though, giving the Rams props and respect for beating the Bucs. Winfield is in his first Pro Bowl — think about that, you start your NFL career winning a Super Bowl and then the next year play in the Pro Bowl. Yesterday at Pro Bowl practice at the Las Vegas Ballpark, Joe asked Winfield if he felt injuries robbed the Bucs of another title.

Winfield wouldn’t go there.

“I wouldn’t say injuries robbed us,” he said. “We just lost. We had a lot of depth.”

That’s a class response. No excuses. It was like Winfield didn’t want to diss the Rams. No excuses.

Still, Joe cannot help but think with Godwin and/or Wirfs, and/or with Brown (head injury) healthy, Joe would have been talking with Winfield and other Bucs stars after a Super Bowl practice this week and not a Pro Bowl practice.

80 Responses to “Antoine Winfield Won’t Reach For An Excuse For Losing To Rams”

  1. Anonymous Says:

    We tied without Godwin and Wirfs, with them we win

  2. KingLDavid54 Says:

    This dude has the mental infrastructure it takes to achieve excellence and help others around him do the same.

  3. Austin Says:

    We tied without Godwin and Wirfs, we win with them

  4. Proud Bucs Fan Says:

    And IF the Rams had their tackle they would have won by three touchdowns. And If KC had their starters on their O’line they would have been Superbowl Champs.

  5. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Joe you should of asked what he thought of his DC’s last call.

  6. MadMax Says:

    Go Bengals! Please knock the sht out of LA!!!!

  7. PassingThru Says:

    He must have been referring to depth on defense. On offense, losing your WR1, WR2, and replacing your starting RT with an injury-impaired backup just might cause a problem.

  8. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Well, it certainly wasn’t speed that Kupp used to blow Winfield away.

    Cooper Kupp 4.62

    Antoine Winfield 4.45

  9. NotTampaTom Says:

    What level of depth? Pro bowl, good, decent, or warm body?

  10. c2 asante Says:

    I agree with Winfield. The Bucs had their best season ever despite a rash of injuries and adversity. I’m disappointed they lost but only one team wins the Super Bowl. They had the second best record in the NFL and barely lost in the playoffs to a better team that had already beaten them previously because their strengths give the Bucs problems. Blaming the coach, or injuries is convenient but shortsighted

  11. Anonymous Says:

    If the defense had not blown the coverage to Kupp! Brady did his job, Bowels lost that game.

  12. Defense Rules Says:

    Listnfrmafar … ‘you should of asked what he thought of his DC’s last call.’

    Have you watched the re-runs of that last play? You & several others keep harping about Bowles’ call on that play, but in reality it was piss-poor execution by the 11 men on the field. Well, except Suh; he busted his balls to get to Stafford, and was just a fraction of a second too late.

    Whether Bowles should’ve called a different defense alignment could be debated all off-season. That’s Monday Morning quarterbacking. Fact is that his team did a crappy job of executing the play that he did call. And yes, that includes Winfield. I’ll give him credit though for manning-up and not using excuses like I read from far too many others.

  13. D-Rok Says:


    It’s commonly said that football is a game of inches sometimes. In our case, it was a fraction of a second. What IF Suh had sacked Stafford on that fateful play? We’d all be talking about other things right now. Nevertheless, the loss occurred and we as fans have to accept it. I’m proud of Winfield’s response, and agree with him.

    GO BUCS!!

  14. JimmyJack Says:

    Defense Rules I do agree with you on execution but it also looked like it was a bit deeper then that. Winfield on that last play didnt even know what his responsibility was……If he has deep coverage on that play his attention has to be on the reciever. He was looking into the backfield. He didnt ev ed n cover Kupp he was reacting to Kupp blowing by him. In other words his head was completely up his own ass on that play.

    On the first TD it was the same danged thing. Edwards has no idea what his responsibility is and runs in the wrong direction, leaving the left sideline completly open.

    Im the last guy to blame coaching but our DC has multiple players on the field for the entire game who have no freaking idea what their job is. That was preseason level bad.

    What really chaps my ass is seeing our safties in this defense confused. The biggest thing Bowles brings to the table is a defense that puts his safeties in great position to make game changing plays. Bowles really screwed something up with his preperation for that game.

  15. Oxycodoms Says:

    Actually the depth on wr was also injured in grayson and perriman. Defense didnt do the job

  16. Bqen green Says:

    Y’all can play the what if game in perpetuity. What if the saints TE can hold onto a football. The bucs probably get blown out. What if the chiefs had a starting NFL offensive line in the superbowl. What if Ben had invested money in apple in the early 80’s. It’s a nonsensical argument. Ben is glad Winfield didn’t use the injury excuse. A certain amount of luck is needed to win the superbowl. Much more luck is needed to repeat. The injury bug was always going to bite the bucs in the ass. It’s just odds. Bottom line is they didn’t have enough depth to mitigate the injuries. That’s what happens when you front load a team, and have nobody to step up.

  17. JimbobBucsFan Says:

    I’m happy as a football fan and as a Buccaneer fan to play the “what if” game.

    As much as I love Wirfs and am astounded at his immediate rise to the top at his position I feel that the absence of Godwin was even more significant for the game against the Rams. I don’t believe that Los Angeles would have jumped out to such big a lead and caused us to depart from the original game plan had CG been there. I do believe we would have been favored in the Super Bowl if we had the presence of both Wirfs and Godwin. That’s life, y’all!

  18. westernbuc Says:

    Play calling had more to do with it than anything.

  19. SKBucsFan Says:

    Regardless of who was hurt Winfield has a pro attitude. Hopefully it only makes him , and those around him strive to be better.

  20. JimbobBucsFan Says:

    Even without AB I think we would have benn favorites to bring home another Lombardi Tropy. Tom Brady was humming in our offense and he had mastered Bruce Arains’ complicated playbook to an exquisite degree after only one year. Just look at the stats and records that he had in spite of the injury plagued season we had.

  21. JimbobBucsFan Says:

    Yes, I have a bit of “typing dyslexia”. 😲😪🤥🤭

  22. sasquatch Says:

    Every team has injuries. In order to perform well, these guys have to have a “no excuses” mentality. Media and fans can see that injuries were a significant factor this year.

  23. Im not tired anymore we Super Bowl Champs!! Says:

    With all the drops by Tyler Johnson just a couple of those catches could have changed the game. When Godwin went down I was like that’s not good then when AB quit on us I was like we are toast. Sucks. Now Brady is gone. Oh well I guess we have to move on. I think we look for our next franchise QB in next years draft. We need to retain our Oline. To protect our next QBs mental state. Go Bucs!

  24. Pewter Power Says:

    No doubt if we were at full strength Bucs would be in the Super Bowl

  25. HC Grover Says:

    Buccos Rube Goldberg Playbook.

  26. Listnfrmafar Says:

    DR, not sure if you’re a relative of Bowles because you are sounding like BA blaming the ayers. I am aware guys were not lined up or didn’t blitz. My question to you besides the obvious stupid call is, these guys blitzed 64% of the time in that game so are we to believe all of a sudden they forgot how to? Or is it possible they play came in late which caused confusion? Can you explain why Vea was lined up off the right tackle completely taking him out of the play? So Winfield (a safety) didn’t execute because the BEST wr in the NFL was ignored and he beat a 2nd yr DB? Next to Pete Carrol not handing the ball to Lynch on the 1 yd line in the Seattle/Pat’s SB is the worst call in playoff history. I will give this Dallas Dak run is a close 3rd. Why do you continue to defend this guy? He was fired by the Jets and I had the pleasure of watching the Pat’s dismantle him during his short stay. Bowles was a DB and the Bucs DB’s are some of the worst in the league. You’re up.

  27. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    What has been missing from this discussion is our lack of pass rush in the Rams game……..Shaq & JPP did nada……zip…….our front four was ineffective.

    If it weren’t for the reckless turnovers by the Rams late in the game….we wouldn’t even be talking.

    Pin it all on Bowles if it makes you feel better…..

    How about the missed FG by Succop….there’s 3 points

    Our field position was awful……punt & return blocking very poor…..

  28. Winny Testaverde Says:

    I see that Bqweef green continues to hang around, talk tough and pile on the Bucs post mortem while taking credit for the Pats previous successes. A true keyboard warrior who declares financial “independence”, former (flag) football prowess and what “Bill”, “Tommy” and others are thinking while calling BA a damaged alcoholic. Makes you wonder what kind of scum he really must be. The Bucs lost…the real Buc fans are obviously reeling from the end of the Brady Era and what might have been.

    Congrats Bqweef…all the best to you and your live at home daughter approaching her 30’s.

  29. Tony Says:

    We’re gonna bring back Monte Kiffin. Even Jim Bates & Mike Smith wouldn’t have called that.

  30. Tony Says:

    Maybe we should make Giselle the defensive coordinator & make Tom the new offensive coordinator when Leftwich goes. The D would definitely play for Giselle & the offense would of course play for Brady.

  31. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I suspect there is a similar outcry about the DC for the Packers, Bills, Chiefs, 49rs,,,,,,,and the Eagles highly touted defense that gave up 34,,,,,

    And, then there’s all those who didn’t make the playoffs…..FIRE THEM ALL!!!

  32. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    The best one I’ve heard is that this is all BA’s fault….because he listens to all the plays and should have called off the blitz on the final play…..really….with no time outs…..
    Or, maybe he did and that’s what caused all the confusion.

  33. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Winning I can understand your dismay. Losing has become commonplace not only for the Bucs but from your post, personally as well. That’s ok if there weren’t losers like you there would be no winners. Excepting defeat without accountability makes you a coward and obviously this hits home with you. Enjoy your 5-12 season next year, from a positive perspective you won’t have to worry about crammed seating at the stadium and you’ll be able to take advantage of the convenience of purchasing your tickets at the local 7-11. Now pull your pizza stained t-shirt down over your buldging stomach, sit back in your stenched filled reclining chair and enjoy watching reruns of your favorite show, The Biggest Loser! Dck.

    Tampa, it doesn’t matter what happened previously in the game, the “what ifs,” the score was tied and Bowles call sealed the Bucs destiny. If a sideline prevent play was called and they went into OT and lost? So be it, they ALL went down fighting. It was apparent Brady indirectly called the coaches out for lack of focus. Don’t take my word for it, take his.

  34. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Tampa, tell your team to jump offsides before the ball is snapped, dead ball foul. I’m no NFL head coach, even I can figure that out.

  35. fern Says:

    Dude is a football player

  36. Listnfrmafar Says:

    The long post above was for Winny T, obviously not winning.

  37. Mike Johnson Says:

    You are all wrong. The Rams great Defense killed us just like it did the 9ers and just like it gonna kill the Bengals. And our lack of defense..Killed us.

  38. Winny Testaverde Says:


    You’re right…it’s winning. Taking up for Bqweef…or are you also Bqweef as a clever tech trick? You recently changed your handle I believe and actually used to be mildly amusing at least. Now you too talk tough from Ma’s
    car and/or basement. Nobody’s happy about Bowles late game botch. But it’s time to move on little fella. And you described me perfectly…including the boiler belly, 7-11 hang out and Archie Bunker type recliner. Not bad, Bqweef’s biach…not bad at all.

  39. Tampabaybucfsn Says:

    So, BA should have ordered the defense to go offsides to stop the playcall by Bowles? What if the play wasn’t blown dead? Then the Rams get another shot.

    Really a stretch

  40. August 1976 Buc Says:

    Winfield wouldn’t go there.

    “I wouldn’t say injuries robbed us,” he said. “We just lost. We had a lot of depth.”

    That’s a class response. No excuses. It was like Winfield didn’t want to diss the Rams. NO EXCUSES.

    SO anyone who wants to piss and moan about the Rams game, Winfield said what I posted yesterday, I said “the hell with EXCUSES”,

    The Bucs got Beat, they got their Azz handed to them by the Rams..
    Face reality move on.
    No stinking wallowing in the muck, like so many that keep pounding a dead horse about the Rams game.

    Good to see that Winfield is being real, that is the only way you get better as a player.

    GO BUCS!!!!

  41. bucschamp Says:

    Mr. Winfield Sr. raised this man right!

  42. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Tampa, yes if the players were confused. Another “what if.” What if he called the right D and Bucs won? What would you potentially be doing next weekend. I agree with one thing many of you said, like TB12, it’s time to move on. I read McDaniels might want Jimmy G. If so Carr may get you to 8-9.

  43. Defense Rules Says:

    Listnfrmafar … ‘Enjoy your 5-12 season next year’. What kind of a comment is that? This year’s team is only half built at the current time. If you want to make losing predictions, why not wait until closer to the start of the season. Hard to take ‘predictions’ from folks who make comments like that seriously.

    And regarding defending Todd Bowles, I’ve never been a big fan of people who constantly look for scapegoats. Teams win and teams lose; the key is that they do it as a TEAM. I have zero idea what preparations Bowles & his staff did for that Rams’ game … and neither do you. There was obviously a ‘breakdown’ someplace on that last play (ie.e, communication or whatever), but none of us REALLY know who was responsible for that breakdown. You don’t know the details of the play-call or when it was sent in any more than I do.

    What I do know is that Todd Bowles took a very green & disjointed defense starting in 2019 and got it to the point in 2020 where it ranked #8 in Points Allowed out of 32 teams AND won the Super Bowl with it. I also know that despite an incredible number of injuries on defense in 2021, the Bucs’ defense actually improved to a #5 ranking in Points Allowed and helped this team make the playoffs.

    Admittedly Bowles blitzes too much for my liking, but then again, given the injuries that we had to players like JPP, Shaq, LVD & others, maybe he was convinced that blitzing Stafford gave us our best chance to win. I don’t know, but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt based on how he’s gotten this defense to perform over the past 2 years especially. He’s got a LOT more experience at this than you or I do, and he knows what these players are capable of a helluva lot better than we do. He deserves that benefit of the doubt IMO.

  44. Swampbuc Says:

    Class response, especially when your defensive coordinator completely hangs you out to dry against the best WR in the game today. We could be playing in 9 days if Todd’s Bowels weren’t distracted by interviewing and moving on. Bowels deserves some major stankfinger and no one is giving it to him.

  45. lambchop Says:

    What about the depth of his dropback on that fateful play before the kick?

  46. lambchop Says:

    I love this kid, and he’s gonna be a great one, but man it still bothers me so I’m bustin his chops.

  47. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Whinytestacleless, if I described you correctly this is a show I am sure you would like. It’s called Dr. Pimple Popper, a show you would surely enjoy. Just don’t get to excited , you wouldn’t want to scare any of your 15 cats if they see you having a little too much fun in that chair.

  48. Defense Rules Says:

    Oh and Listnfrmafar, I forgot to mention 1 thing and that relates to your assertion that the Bucs ‘blitzed 64% of the time in that game’.

    The Bucs were credited with 23 blitzes in that Rams’ game. There were 72 defensive plays. They may have used more than 1 blitzer on any given play, but even if they didn’t, that’d only be 32% blitzing … max. And of those 23 blitzes, our OLBs accounted for over half of them (14) because that’s kinda their job? … Shaq (5), JPP (4), JTS (3), Nelson (1), Gill (1).

  49. Anonymous Says:

    ListenFromMa’sCar/Bqweef green/Medicated Repeat/ TBagMaxConArtist…whoever you are…I enjoy Dr. Pimple Popper indeed. Helping hapless peoples like you and your multiple aliases come out from behind the keyboard and embrace real life. I’m allergic to cats…so you’re wrong there. But back to Bowles…hopefully he takes your “hot takes” and tough talk to heart!

  50. Listnfrmafar Says:

    DR, fair enough, but Swamparse does have a point, where is the accountability? Explain the call or admit it was a bad one. That’s why some like my self are finding it hard to find closure. At least Mccarthy had the balls to back his call and didn’t throw his team under the bus.

  51. Winny TestacleLess Says:

    ListenFromMa’sCar/Bqweef green/Medicated RePeat/TMaxConArtist…whoever you are…you are correct. Dr. Pimple Popper is a great show…giving hope to hapless peoples like yourselves hiding behind keyboards getting all mad at ToddBowles. But you’re wrong about the cats…I’m allergic and don’t care much for them anyway. Hopefully Bowles has listened to your “hot takes” and tough talk…he no doubt needs your expertise.

  52. Bqen green Says:

    Jesus whiny testicles verde, Ben is here to simply drop info. listnfrmafar, don’t bother with someone in the ammonia brain camp, they can’t be helped, or reasoned with. It’s like taking a hillbilly to a Broadway show. They’re just going to throw a fit, and ask for blue man group. Hey whiney testicles, Ben is sorry your life didn’t turn out the way your teenage parents hoped it would. Go get a freaking life dude. Ben is here to stay!!!!

  53. Winny TestacleLess Says:

    I’m glad Ben is here to stay. Ben needs an outlet given his single mom daughter has set up camp at his house with her “master’s degree” working a mall cop gig. I’d be gutshot as well. My ammonia brain is foggy of course…but I’ll never forget the shame Ben has used to describe/defend her.

    Now…any chance the Bucs can get Mac Jones, Brian Hoyer ( who you no doubt know ) or that Jared fella as their next QB? The Bucs only hope is a former Pats QB as you know.

  54. Bqen green Says:

    BTW Ben’s daughter went back to her passion. She is running a school for kids on the autism spectrum, you slimy fool. Not that anyone’s children should be made sport of on this illustrious site. People like you expose themselves as trolls and douchebags quite quickly

  55. Adrnagy Says:

    Not sure we sign c. Davis.
    With winfield. Smb and dean FA next year.

  56. David Says:

    They should try to lock him up before he becomes a free agent. He’s developing great. He can still be a little bit better at not letting someone get over top of him. I’m not talking about the last play against the Rams although I don’t understand why he gets a pass and Bowles gets trashed.

    Yes it was a bad call to blitz there but if the players executed the blitz people would’ve been calling him a genius for catching Stafford off guard.
    Or if Winfield didn’t stand there and watch Cooper fly by him before trying to play catch-up people would not be trashing Bowles.

    It was a bad call but the execution was far worse.

  57. JimmyJack Says:

    Drefense Rules. What a players responsibility is and things like preperation are not seen or known to the average fan but they are a big part of the game.

    These things are defiently not above critism, especially when you can see a guy just flat out forget to cover a entire sideline(it truely did look like Mike Smiths defense whose claim to fame was flat out not covering an entire sideline in the redzone).

    I get your point that we dont ultimately know what caused the breakdown. But no matter what the coordinator is responsible that his players know how to get the call, get it communicated and put themselves into position…………..Dude you can literally see Edwards on live TV running in the wrong direction and leaving Kupp totally uncovered. It is blatently obvious there is a big problem between Todd calling the plays and players doing the right job. If thats not up to the coach to fix and its the players then what the heck are you paying a coordinator millions of dollars for?

  58. JimmyJack Says:

    List…..reguarding that last call the coach said they called a blitz and their players dindt all run the same play. You gotta be braindead to say thats throwing the players under the bus.

    There are basically saying they dont know how to call a play and get their team to run it……..Dang dude, learn how to read a tea leaf. Or maybe you can twitter Stroud and see if he can ask better questions for your listening pleasure.

  59. steele Says:

    I’m still waiting for an explanation for That Play. Why was he staring at Stafford and letting Kupp blow by him?

  60. Bqen green Says:

    Ben loves each and every one of y’all. Even someone as classless as whiney testes. Funny how Ben knows nothing, and had Brady’s retirement before scheftey, or anyone else. Go look at the time stamp on the day the news dropped. Ben told y’all all year how upset Tommy had become over the idiotic coaching, and game prep. That was more than substantiated by seasoned NFL reporters. Go cry in ye ole pirate ship. Ben hears ammonia brain had the first, second, third, and last round. Better hurry before he drinks the whole supply of rum

  61. Bqen green Says:

    Ben has a question. Why are you casino blitzing on that play anyway? You’re inviting a miscommunication, or a DB losing his footing. It was the wrong call. The Rams had been destroying the bucs against the blitz all afternoon. That play was a microcosm of the entire game. If anyone here thinks the bucs coaches put the players in the best situation to win, please, explain yourselves

  62. Winny TestacleLess Says:

    If Ben had only been this dialed in with his very own wayward daughter…she probably wouldn’t be belting back the booze in his basement more than the vilified BA. She needs you Ben…and your self proclaimed bulging billfold. But we need Ben too…for real time updates, “Tommy” takes as well as Bill Belichick berry kissing.

  63. Bqen green Says:

    You’re supposed to be protecting against the only thing that can beat you, a huge pass play. So what if the LB didn’t blitz. He was probably trying to wrap his head around the call. It’s the coaches responsibility to put players in positions to succeed. Players shouldn’t be held responsible for asinine calls. Nice touch ammonia brain, throw the player under the bus

  64. Winny TestacleLess Says:

    Ben…few if any people are defending the blitz/the final 40+ seconds of the Rams game. It was abysmal…horrifying ( insert additional adjectives here describing “Grandpa” Ben’s living arrangements.) Your constant bragging/know it all schtick is more tired than your grandkid looking for you to tuck them in while “Mom” is somewhere with her feet in the air. But we like Ben. Bqweef is a “value add” to the comment section and his grandkiddos life.

  65. Bqen green Says:

    Ben’s daughter is now the principal for a school that teaches children on the autism spectrum testicles. Ben is praying for you. If you need some money, or help getting off the junk, Ben is here. Send me the address to your trailer park, and it’s done. If you think disparaging my children makes you look anything more than a fool, then Ben truly feels bad for your parents

  66. Bqen green Says:

    Ben has no grandkids, at least none that my chemical engineer son has told him about. Grow up brother. You sir are what we call an ass clown. Ben would bet his NFL career that you grew up alone, and waiting for mom to come home from her shift around the corner. Nobody that grew up with a father’s love would talk like you

  67. Winny TestacleLess Says:

    From mall cop to benevolent principal at a special needs school? Not since you declared Ben a former football “great” ( safety was it ? ) have we heard such a stretch.

    I appreciate both the prayers and offer of financial assistance. Benevolence must run in Ben’s family. The truth is I can’t afford either a trailer house or “junk”…so I’m afraid it’s too little too late like Robert Kraft’s apology to the fans and The Touch Of Class Massage Parlor.

  68. Destinjohnny Says:

    I wonder if these guys realize what they left on the table. To get that close to having a NFC championship at home and blowing it from mental eras and coaching……….
    Players play their whole careers to have that chance.
    They will be lucky to see it again….

  69. Winny TestacleLess Says:

    Sad but so true, Destinjohnny.

  70. Winny TestacleLess Says:

    Wait…more “upgrades” and resumè enhancements for TeamBen!

    Son went from custodial engineer to one who cleans with chemicals. Indeed impressive…

    Perhaps more important though is now Ben is a former “NFL” player ( previously college according to Ben.) We are in the company of NFL alumni/greatness folks! I’m humbled and grateful for Ben’s presence. Ben’s words means even more now. Had I known Ben was an NFL icon…I would never have been so disrespectful to him or his family. So sorry Ben.

  71. JimmyJack Says:

    Ben be very proud man. Your prediction was right. Brady retired. You got a 50/50 right, well done.

    And since you are in here bragging about getting a 50/50 call right we can lump you in with that tiny sector of commentors who are here to say I told you so. I think there a name for people like you.

    And now you will be rooting for the Bucs to lose next fall so you can tell us again. Hope you enjoy any victories(Bucs losses) as much as I enjoy mine.

    All that said I condone and confirm every statement made about you by Winny Testaverde.

  72. Anonymous Says:

    I get it , NEVER underestimate your opponent, but we didn’t have the toughest schedule. I hope they’re ready for the schedule next year because if we don’t do something with that secondary we’re toast!

  73. Defense Rules Says:

    JimmyJack … ‘It is blatantly obvious there is a big problem between Todd calling the plays and players doing the right job. If thats not up to the coach to fix and it’s the players then what the heck are you paying a coordinator millions of dollars for?’

    I agree totally with your first part; it’s obvious watching the replays that there was a HUGE communication problem on that play. But none of us know the specifics of what play was called, or where the breakdown was (to me it looked like it was literally everywhere, which boggles the mind).

    I’ve just come to believe over many years that there’s always more to a story than we see. And IMO it’s usually what we (the fans in this case) DON’T know that’s the real culprit. Todd Bowles took the hit for it & MAYBE rightfully so; IDK. I’ve just never been big on scapegoating. I much prefer to find out what REALLY went on & what the REAL cause of the problem was. Then fix it & press on to fight another day.

    Yes it is Todd Bowles job with this defense (to fix problems), and IMO he does that quite well. These guys know how to communicate; they’re pros. But you can’t fix breakdowns in communication in the middle of the play if you’re a coach. Just wish I knew ‘the rest of the story’ as Paul Harvey used to say.

  74. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you.

    With the exception of AB, I’ve enjoyed this team enormously. I did enjoy AB’s incredibly talent but I like players like ME and Godwin who realize how freaking BLESSED they are and appreciate their God given skills.

    Sadly those enormous skills are wasted on losers like AB.

    This team kept on plowing even after AB showed his ass. We can give all the credit to Brady changing the culture but that’s a bit overplayed IMHO.

    Did Brady change AB? Nope. Did he change him in NE? Nope. A head case is going to be a freaking head case…that’s who they are! CLASS acts like ME and Godwin are going to take the high road because that’s who they are.

    For some reason…and not just in football but life in general…spoiled rotten aholes trigger me.

  75. PassingThru Says:

    Funny stuff. So some here hold the coaching staff blameless for players not lining up properly, not understanding their defensive assignments, and not taking the efficiently taking the best angles to pressure or sack the QB?!?

    I must be lost. I thought that had something to do with practice. And it is my naive understanding that these guys who are called coaches draw up these plays and drill the players during practice. Isnt that the responsibility of coaching? Or do some of you think that football is just some random activity that unfolds like battle ball during elementary school recess?

  76. Buczilla Says:

    Good for Winfield. I didn’t even watch the conference championships and will glance at the super bowl only because I’m having folks over and cooking my butt off. NFL games are a massive infomercial with silly rules and far too many stoppages, run by fake a$$, woke, greedy, d-bags. I LOVE the Bucs though, so until/if the Leprechauns decide to move the team, they’ll have my loyalty.

  77. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Passing Thru, the voice of reason. Exactly correct. You can judge me all you want for this but I can only reference scenarios from Patriot games whereas a coached managed winning situation to perfection. The final winning series in the Patriots/Seattle SB. There was very little time left, Pete Carrol was expecting Belichick to call a TO but didn’t, as Bill looked to the opposing sideline he realized his decision was causing confusion. The next play Malcolm Butler intercepted Wilson’s pass game over. During post game interviews it came out the Pat’s D practiced that exact scenario and play. Malcolm struggled in practice but they went over and over it until he got it right. The rest is history. My point is situational football and practice prevents players from confusion on the field. Sorry DR, if these players were not in position to execute properly, that’s lack of preparation.

    Whinytestyhurty, let me guess you added a new corn dog mustard stain to that yellowing wife beater tank top you wear daily?

  78. Winny TestacleLess Says:

    It’s almost guaranteed that ListenFromMa’sCar is either also Bqweef green as the only time they appear together is at a Holiday Inn Express at 2am on Tuesday nights under the cover of darkness/secrecy.

    “They” both are Pat backers and more importantly defensive masterminds. Buddy Ryan & Monte Kiffin have nothing on Ben/Listen/Medicated Repeats.

  79. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Whinytestyhurty, I have no idea who Ben is or have the want to find out. He is Cleary full of shat about his illustrious football career. As far as Medicated, not sure what happened to him. I hope he is well and truth be told I miss his witty posts, the total opposite of your home schooled 8th grade drop out rhetoric. I am sorry you don’t have the means to purchase your dream double wide but seeing that you live in the south your trashbag tent should
    suffice and make for a comfortable abode. I will not take the low road and insult the children you left behind because I’m sure not being in your presence has made them better people. I just thought of a way you maybe able to afford a used trailer or camper anyway. Hold on to that yellowing stained wife beater t-shirt. If you keep adding stains down the road you could possibly sell it as abstract art. Provided that is it doesn’t deteriorate from dirt and body odor.

    Jimmyjackoff, if a HC is in a presser and doesn’t know what happened on the biggest play of the season and is guessing, that’s on him!

  80. Mark Alsott Says:

    Losing Brady hurts, but having a solid, young nucleus of Whitehead, Winfield, White, Vea, Wirfs, Evans, Godwin (hopefully) and many others. This roster is laden with talent, just need a solid QB who doesn’t lose us games, and we’ll be alright. Getting past Brady’s retirement, we have a lot to be excited about as Bucs fans. I don’t see another decade of losing, but I have been wrong more than right…