Time To Keep Joe Tyron-Shoyinka On The Field More

November 25th, 2021

Pass rusher Joe Tryon-Shoyinka

Earlier this season, Joe noticed Bucs defensive coordinator Todd Bowles had his three best pass rushers on the field at the same time — a handful of times.

Bucs sack king Shaq Barrett and rookie Joe Tyron-Shoyinka manned the outside linebacker positions and veteran Jason Pierre-Paul lined up inside.

Well, Monday night, Bowles had a twist on that. JTS, who played half the snaps (29) mostly on passing downs, lined up inside. JPP stayed at outside linebacker. The result? JTS had three quarterback pressures and three quarterback hurries. He nearly had a sack when he flushed and chased down Danny Dimes but didn’t wrap up properly when he went for Dimes’ feet.

It was a strong performance going inside. The Giants’ offensive linemen didn’t react well to JTS’s quickness.

“I felt like I was pretty active with trying my best to be disruptive,” JTS said. “I don’t think I made any mistakes, so in my book, that’s trending upwards.”

Of course, JTS is hoping his solid performance will earn him more snaps, including this Sunday at Indianapolis. If it’s inside or outside, JTS doesn’t care but he’s learning to lining up inside.

“It was a cool way to be on the field with me, ‘JPP’ (Jason Pierre-Paul) and Shaq [Barrett],” JTS said. “We practiced it all week – just get after it. It’s pass rushing, but inside, so I got in on a passing situation and didn’t have to play the run in there.

“Even though, I feel like I would be capable of doing that, but that’s just the little mismatch we have. Guards aren’t as fast or as quick so being able to utilize that mismatch was a lot of fun.”

The way Joe looks at it, more JTS on the field cannot hurt. Joe loves JPP. He’s the ultimate warrior. But with his torn rotator cuff he’s not the same player.

The Bucs needed to jump-start their pass rush against the Giants and JTS gave them a spark. No need to put that spark out.

21 Responses to “Time To Keep Joe Tyron-Shoyinka On The Field More”

  1. Medicated Pete Says:

    Why do fans see this before the coaches? JPP isn’t going to be able to do the hokey pokey & turn himself around when his shoulder is hanging by a string

  2. Scurvy Dogs Says:

    @Pete because JPP “makes more money.” What a stupid football philosophy.

  3. Defense Rules Says:

    JTS is rapidly turning into a beast. In the first 10 games, he’s had 15 Pressures (3 sacks, 3 Knockdowns, 9 Hurries) plus 3 TFLs in only 270 def snaps. That’s 1 Pressure every 18 def snaps, higher than even our Bucs leader in Pressures, Shaq Barrett (23 Pressures in 517 def snaps is 1 every 22 def snaps). JPP in comparison has 10 Pressures this season in 429 def snaps (1 Pressure every 43 def snaps). Yup, JTS needs to be on the field more.

  4. Medicated Pete Says:

    @Scurvy Dogs

    That’s what u call: Failing upwards (sheesh)

  5. NeverGIVEup Says:

    DR, those numbers on JTS just gave me the warm and fuzzy feeling.

    I can’t imagine his snap count not increasing dramatically once we turn on the jets down the stretch offensively and teams become more one dimensional earlier in games.

    Can he still become DROY?

  6. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    JPP’s heart can only take him so far……JTS needs to play more….with White out, we need a run stopper added….

  7. SB~LV Says:

    lol.. the guy is oozing with talent, what until he understands the game and starts to breakdown the play , kid was going on natural ability early in this season. He has NO hesitation sticking his nose in the run game!

  8. Bobby M. Says:

    JTS on the inside is interesting in that it minimizes his responsibilities while allowing him to play aggressive. If you put him on the outside, teams will attack his inexperience and aggressiveness. There’s a lot more discipline involved on the edge, my guess is JPP holds the edge while Bowles sends White and JTS up the middle. Nice to see Bowles moving the pieces around a bit….the defense was having ZERO success getting pressure.

  9. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    What about our defensive player of the year Shaq?

  10. Allbuccedup Says:

    A lot of 2021 free agent sites had listed Shaq as buyer beware. Its starting too look they were right. Sort of a one hit wonder. Hes still a good player just not an all pro $$$$$$$.

  11. Defense Rules Says:

    Bobby … From what I can see, our defense is getting almost exactly the same ‘Pressure Rate’ this season as they got last season. In 2020 the TEAM averaged 1 Pressure every 5.5 def snaps. So far this season, the TEAM has averaged 1 Pressure every 5.4 def snaps.

    Fairly insignificant difference IMO except for 1 thing: opposing QBs for the most part have changed how they attack us (seem to be using more quick release short passes for one thing?) and that SHOULD cut down on our ability to generate pressure. But we’ve adapted fairly well it looks like. Combine that with the defensive injuries that we’ve had starting with Game 1 and I’m surprised our defense is doing as good as it is.

    As much as we all enjoy peeing & moaning about our defense, it is currently ranked #11 in Total Points Allowed, #8 in Total Yardage Allowed, #1 in Run Defense & #17 in Pass Defense. And one other ranking is super-important in my book: #6 in takeaways (with 18 in 10 games). That all by itself helps our offense tremendously. Now if our offense would just cut down on their giveaways in this 2nd half of the season we’ll REALLY be kicking ass. Bucs offense ranks #14 in the NFL with 13 giveaways in 10 games. Too many fumbles & INTs off receivers’ hands.

  12. Brandon Jeff Says:

    Just call him “JETS” because he kicks in the after burners. Yes we need him on the field more. This can lower JPP’s snap count so he can be more effective in the playoffs while giving JETS valuable experience. A win win for a SB run.

  13. Beeej Says:

    JPP’s rotator cuff injury…. Does that sort of thing ALWAYS require surgery?

  14. Austin Says:

    Man I’m stoked how well he’s coming along, didn’t see this coming right out of the gate. He’s already a pro stunter going around blocks and finding holes. Only going to get worlds better learning from JPP and Shaq

  15. Bucs&Bolts Says:

    If JTS keeps this up puts in a great offseason training he should blossom real nicely into a top DE 🤩

  16. gp Says:

    Beeej Says:
    November 25th, 2021 at 9:13 am

    JPP’s rotator cuff injury…. Does that sort of thing ALWAYS require surgery?
    Unless he has no real desire to use that arm……
    Just sayin…

  17. 40Forever Says:

    What’s the difference between a quarterback pressure or a quarterback hurry?

    It’s a tremendous benefit to JTS that JPP lives in Florida and will likely continue to mentor him after he retires.

  18. Defense Rules Says:

    40Forever … The way I understand it they consider Pressures to be the sum of Sacks, Hurries and Knockdowns.

  19. Coburn Says:

    Even if he missed the dive at Jones ankles I liked the effort. Too often see our other pas rushers just running after qb until be eventually throws it away before they can catch him that extra effort can be the difference between a throe away and a sack

  20. Buczilla Says:

    Licht just keeps getting better and better at this drafting thing. Any halfway decent pass rusher is in high demand and there is no way that JTS lasts until pick 32 in a redraft.

  21. Todd Says:


    Easy solve. Restructure JPP’s contract to a league minimum to extend JTS! JTS then makes more than JPP and flips the playing time.

    I’m genius!