Jay Glazer Has An Update On Antonio Brown Allegations

November 21st, 2021

New intel.

So it seems this sleazy Steven Ruiz character sang to the Bucs more than he blew the whistle to a pair of local reporters.

The ultimate NFL insider, Jay Glazer, did a hit this morning on the FOX NFL pregame show and had a bit of intriguing information on the allegation that Bucs furniture-tossing, bicycle-throwing receiver Antonio Brown obtained a fake V-card to skirt NFL protocols guidelines.

In a sordid story, Ruiz, the (former?) personal chef for Brown, went to the Tampa Bay Times with a screenshot purported to be a text exchange between him and Brown’s girlfriend, the model Cydney Moreau. In the screenshot, someone alleged to be Moreau asked Ruiz to help find a fake V-card for Brown for some $500.

Ruiz claims Brown owes him $10,000 for chef services rendered (has anyone produced an invoice?).

Ruiz then sicced a Hollywood sex tape broker on the Bucs in apparent hopes they would squeeze Brown to cough up the cash. Ruiz later told Jenna Laine of ESPN that a Bucs teammate of Brown’s (we do not know if it is a former teammate or a current teammate) was selling fake V-cards. Ruiz refused to out this player, at least to Laine.

Per Glazer, Ruiz did out a player to the Bucs — not just Brown — who had a fake V-card. Glazer did not name the player. However, the Bucs informed Glazer they believe this to be a scam. The Bucs told Glazer they witnessed the player in question get the jab.

For background, behind the gates of One Buc Palace near the players’ entrance sits a medical trailer that is there mainly to test all Bucs employees (including players) and anyone who has access to One Buc Palace.

Joe presumes this same trailer also is where the jab is administered. So when the Bucs say, by way of Glazer, they saw this unnamed player Ruiz tried to out taking the needle, Joe is going to guess the player took the jab at the medical trailer. If that’s the case, this is then well-documented.

So the Bucs are not putting any stock into Ruiz’s words and consider this to be nothing more than a total shakedown.

You can see Glazer’s report below in the FOX Sports video.

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142 Responses to “Jay Glazer Has An Update On Antonio Brown Allegations”

  1. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Beautiful how they can make a story out of a rumor with no ramifications. The fact that this is hovering around is enough for the lawless NFL to suspend him without cause. If it’s true then AB is a stupid arse.

  2. Rod Munch Says:

    The fake news St Pete Times is called fake news for a reason.

  3. DaBux Says:

    Man, we knew being at the top would generate some hate, but dang. This is total BS and sure enough I’m sure another weasel will pop up just before the playoffs with a rumor about somebody on our team.

  4. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    I agree that this is nothing more than a total shakedown of Brown.
    Really, I am much more interested in Gruden’s lawsuit against the NFL!
    And, the possibly coming lawsuit by the owner of the LA Rams.
    Both of these lawsuits should reveal some juicy tidbits of how the NFL really operates. Like many football fans, I dislike Roger Goodell, so perhaps the NFL will make him the scapegoat for what these lawsuits might uncover, and we will finally be rid of him ?

  5. Beeej Says:

    Listnfrmafar Says:
    November 21st, 2021 at 1:20 pm
    “Beautiful how they can make a story out of a rumor with no ramifications. The fact that this is hovering around is enough for the lawless NFL to suspend him without cause. If it’s true then AB is a stupid arse.”

    It’s almost like Trump was still president

  6. Adrnagy Says:

    With or without goodell we must play better and win. No excuse.

    If packers. Cardinals lose today and we win tomorrow. #1 seed is ours to lose.

  7. Rod Munch Says:

    Chris – Goodell is just a stooge for the owners. I’m not sure why people dislike him or think anything will be different, he’s literally just a mindless puppet that does what he’s told to do. I will say if the NFL fires him, they should save a ton of money and get someone that costs a lot less. For the same reason that Goodell is a puppet and stooge, means you can put anyone in that position for a lot less money.

  8. Rod Munch Says:

    Adrnagy – You’d need the Cowboys to lose as well.

  9. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Bucs don’t need distractions now. They better figure this out quickly especially the defense.

  10. NPRSageBoy Says:

    Just remember Buc fans: it’s NOT about the truth; it’s about who has the better story. These are the times in which we live, like it or not!

    IMHO, Antonio Brown is a dirt bag and a cancer the Bucs need to rid themselves of. I do agree that AB is a great player; but, he’s a miserable human being.

    Peace, out

    Let’s Go Brandon!!

  11. Orlandobucsfan#1 Says:

    Wow! What a load of utter gossip and innuendo.
    Somebody belongs in jail, tho it would be nice if milluinaires paid their bills.
    That said, it warms my heart to see Cal do so well after all he’s been thru. As long as he looses to the Bucs.
    Vikings are playing well against the plaque.

  12. Orlandobucsfan#1 Says:


  13. Youngbucs Says:

    NPRSageBoy Says:
    November 21st, 2021 at 2:13 pm
    Just remember Buc fans: it’s NOT about the truth; it’s about who has the better story. These are the times in which we live, like it or not!

    IMHO, Antonio Brown is a dirt bag and a cancer the Bucs need to rid themselves of. I do agree that AB is a great player; but, he’s a miserable human being.

    Peace, out

    Let’s Go Brandon!!

    Lol so is that ex president you support but he gets a pass right stfu.

  14. unbelievable Says:

    Lol @ these people repeatedly typing ‘let’s go Brandon’

    Tell me you’re a snowflake without telling me your snowflake…

    Also the Vikings are idiots. Called a timeout and overturned their own 1st down. Idiots.

  15. unbelievable Says:

    *you’re a

    For the grammar police 😝

  16. Adrnagy Says:

    Cowboys 👎🏼

  17. Mark2001 Says:

    The Times can’t win… They publish it and the wacko news crowd says the times is fake news… They don’t and the same guys talk about the MSM covering up for the Bucs. And of course they never figure how many times their media of choice has lied to them. Which is constantly. Bizarre.

  18. Adrnagy Says:

    Cowboys will lose today.

  19. HC Grover Says:

    Ruiz and Bradshaw what a pair.

  20. gp Says:

    Lol @ these people repeatedly typing ‘let’s go Brandon’

    Tell me you’re a snowflake without telling me your snowflake…

    Kinda scary how many of those “snowflakes” there are out there eh?

    I’m sure you wouldn’t want to get buried in that snowbank!

  21. gp Says:

    Who surrounds who?

  22. Jerry Says:

    Nobody has trouble beating the Saints except the Bucs.

  23. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Snowflake??? Is that considered a hate crime. No hypocrisy there. Fing idiots.

  24. gp Says:

    And of course they never figure how many times their media of choice has lied to them. Which is constantly. Bizarre.
    Been telling you this for a loooooooong while skidmark!
    Mind like a steel trap, welded shut!

  25. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Vikings can’t play a lick of defense. They will find a way to blow that game. I mean rodgers does own them.

  26. Francisco Guzman Says:

    @Jerry it’s so puzzling and frustrating. It’s embarrassing to be quite honest with you. They play very soft against that team.

  27. Mike Johnson Says:

    To heck with this. I am still steaming as to why Gruden was singled out. Only one ex-player Keshaun the mouth Johnson has jumped on his accusatory wagon. I wonder why none of his other minority players have hoped on the..Lets get him bandwagon?

  28. Rod Munch Says:

    That’s Colts game is going to be a rough one. The Bucs run defense is not elite, sorry to break it to you folks, and they have a clone of Mike Evans in Michael Pittman Jr. The Bucs offense will hopefully, maybe, be back at full speed if Brown gets back (if he’s not back, why hasn’t he been on IR?), but this Colts offense is going to put up 42 points on this bad Bucs defense. Again a very very good defense today, they currently have 38, with the entire 4th quarter to go.

  29. somecompletelydifferentguy Says:

    Wow, the thing that shocks me is that he thinks it makes sense to have a personal chef? He does know that NFL salary is going away in a few years right? No wonder these guys all go broke after they are done playing.

  30. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Here’s an idea cover Adam’s. Seriously that wide open?

  31. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Vikings defense reminds me of our defense. What a complete joke.

  32. Francisco Guzman Says:

    I have never seen a team get so lucky than the packers this year. They have had a lot of close games and won them all. I don’t think they’re that good.

  33. Rod Munch Says:

    Mike Johnson – I guess I’ll contradict myself a bit from above, but while Goodell is a puppet of the owners, he still has standing to make people’s lives miserable, and he’s a thin skinned idiot. I do buy that he’s the one who headed up the Gruden lynching knowing that the media are completely fake and will just run with any story where a white man says naughty language and they drag him behind a truck. BUT it still wouldn’t have happened if the owners didn’t let it happen, and the other owners I think all hate Mark Davis because of his dad, so they let it happen. Also making fun of Bryan Glazer for a mo, well that didn’t help.

    At the same time, it’s private emails from 10-years ago when he wasn’t a coach, and it’s clearly a bunch of men who were busting everyone’s balls. It’s literally a non-story, and I hope Gruden cleans them out, destroys them in court, not only for his salary, but for the hitjob they did on his character.

    As for Gruden I think he’s going to end up doing a highly successful podcast. I’d hope he’d just talk football, but if he knew he has no future in the NFL or coaching, he can stop with the ‘I love everyone’ crap and say what he means with no filter. If he did, talking football, how would that not instantly be the most listened to sports show in the country? Now if he tried to rehabilitate his image and pandered to people, then no, it would stink, but an unleashed Gruden, instant hit, calling it now. He should do it independent of any network, get the listeners first, then huge money will follow.

  34. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Rod Munch just stop. This Bucs defense will figure it out hopefully if this coaching staff can grow some brain cells.

  35. Francisco Guzman Says:

    The Vikings are a joke of a franchise. They have a bunch of close games this year.

  36. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Vikings need a td in the worse way.

  37. Francisco Guzman Says:

    The Vikings play calling is suspect.

  38. Rod Munch Says:

    somecompletelydifferentguy – I disagree on a personal chef, if you’re a player the biggest investment you can make in yourself is nutation, having someone that can make food like Brady eats taste good, that makes your life a lot less miserable. With that said this guy clearly isn’t the chef to hire. But a personal chef and personal trainer should be two places you spend money as they should, in theory, help you make money by getting an extra year or two of a contract.

  39. Rod Munch Says:

    Francisco Guzman – The Bills have been the best defense in football, what makes you think the Colts are going to struggle against the Bucs? Also, as said forever, the issue with the Bucs defense are the corners, if they can get them healthy, they should be fine. But the run game is no elite, hasn’t been all year, they’re living off their rep. They’re still good, just not elite.

  40. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Vikings better thinking about the td and not running clock. Packers have all their timeouts.

  41. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Rod Munch the bills don’t have an OL and their offense hasn’t been good as advertised.

  42. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Vikings better convert the two point conversion.

  43. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Great drive by the Vikings. Let’s see if the Vikings can get a stop. Their defense is freaking putrid.

  44. Rod Munch Says:

    Wow, Vikings do get the TD.

    But I just can’t see the stupid Vikings not figuring out a way to lose, but we can hope.

  45. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Wow, Cook and Taylor, those are real RB’s and the offensive schemes for Packers, Indy and Minn is fun to watch, Bucs not so much.

  46. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Iggles trying to choke their game. Unreal.

  47. Rod Munch Says:

    Francisco – The Colts can run AND pass, they’re a very very good team. With as good of luck as the stupid Packers have had, the Colts have been on the other side of that. Also they did struggle early in the year as Wentz got healthy, but they’re firing on all cylinders right now. Are we? I’m not throwing in the towel, but everyone has been overlooking that game next week and looking at the Bills game, and when the two need to be reversed at this point.

  48. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Rod Munch Vikings are a much better team than their record says. Coaching staff is brutal.

  49. Listnfrmafar Says:

    I thought Bucs secondary was bad. You kidding me?

  50. Rod Munch Says:

    The Vikings… LOL!

    What losers.

  51. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Jesus Christ the Vikings are a complete joke

  52. Francisco Guzman Says:

    They’re making the packers offense like the best offense in the world. What a bunch of losers.

  53. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Vikings better burn close and get a drive for a td.

  54. Rod Munch Says:

    Guzman – The Vikings have a very good head coach, the issue is their defense aged out and they have a bunch of young guys in the secondary, and like with the Bucs a few years ago, when you have a bunch of young guys playing corner and safety, that usually leads to very bad things.

    They’ll probably fire everyone, but if they stick with Zimmer for another year, I think you’re talking about a 12-5 type of team next year. Hopefully they’re not patient and just blow it up.

  55. Francisco Guzman Says:

    The iggles are imploding against the saints. Not good.

  56. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Rod Munch Zimmer stinks! Their defensive scheme blows as well.

  57. Rod Munch Says:

    LOL! The Vikings…

    I want the Packers to lose… but I can’t help but to love watching teams implode at home, as long as it’s not the Bucs, there is nothing I love more in football outside of the Bucs winning.

  58. Francisco Guzman Says:

    I can’t stand the packers!!!! When is their luck going to run out? This is unreal.

  59. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Rod Munch you have to admit the packers have had a lot of close games and they have pulled them all out. It makes me sick.

  60. Bird Says:

    Jefferson is a bad arse

  61. Rod Munch Says:

    Francisco – Zimmer had the team year in, year out in the playoffs on the strength of their defense, with those old corners, the corners aged out, the defense didn’t change, and suddenly they’re awful.

    Sort of like the Bucs last year finishing as the best defense in football in the playoffs, then this year, replace the corners with trash that walks in off the street, and suddenly they’re awful.

    Players matter, you can’t just replace anyone, and corner, in modern football, might be the toughest position for a young player to learn.

  62. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Vikings need to get aggressive here. The packers have all their timeouts.

  63. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Vikings in business!!!!!!!

  64. Francisco Guzman Says:

    What are the iggles doing? They’re allowing the saints to come back on them. Brutal defense.

  65. Rod Munch Says:

    Francisco – I’m with you on the Packers, I’ve watched the Bucs for nearly 40 years now, so the Packers, in my mind, are our biggest rivals.

  66. Rod Munch Says:

    The Vikings can just run the clock all the way down… then miss a 22 yard FG probably.

  67. Francisco Guzman Says:

    What are damn Vikings doing?!!!!

  68. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Thank you Vikings!!!!! This won’t anything though if the Bucs don’t get their act together.

  69. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Dallas can easily lose to KC.

  70. Rod Munch Says:


    He doesn’t miss the FG?!?!

    That’s amazing, I can’t believe he didn’t miss!

    I highly suggest listening to Packers post-game sports talk radio, should be really really fun.

  71. Francisco Guzman Says:

    List i got KC beating the cowboys today.

  72. Francisco Guzman Says:

    Welll the bears trying to choke the game here against a backup QB.

  73. Rod Munch Says:

    Want the Redskins not to blow this. I don’t want the Panthers getting on any sort of run.

  74. Rod Munch Says:

    Yes, stupid Redskins beat the stupid Panthers, and stupid Newton can’t get it done. Love it.

  75. mark2001 Says:

    Poor GP.., he gets a couple days off of his manual labor job, and spends his few free hours here. You won’t find any real answers on crackpot alternative media.

  76. gp Says:

    Once again
    Mind like a steel trap, welded shut. Nothing but an echo chamber.
    Must be nice not having to think for yourself!
    Skidmark, making his mark!

  77. gp Says:

    You might want to pull back a little on demeaning the working man. Most of them already have a poor opinion of elitist, know it all snobs, who think they have their finger on the pulse of the world when that finger spends most of it’s time in their a__ and nose.
    And yeah, I love to leave Church feeling all clean and fresh only to have to dirty myself reading your skidmark posts.

  78. mark2001 Says:

    Poor Passive/Aggressive psycho GP. Get some rest… you have to get up early for your manual labor job tomorrow.

  79. mark2001 Says:

    One day you say you go to church…. one day you say aren’t a believer. Which GP am I talking to, today?

  80. gp Says:

    Oh ye of little knowledge!
    I will admit though that you do seem to have a little knowledge of how to shovel(it)
    A little hint, no matter how far and wide you throw it, it’ll still flow back downhill to you!

  81. gp Says:

    Oh ye of poor memory too!
    You’re beginning to sound like our mentally struggling imperious leader!

  82. mark2001 Says:

    If GP was half as smart as he thinks he is, he would be retired by now. But he isn’t and he isn’t. Too bad.

  83. mark2001 Says:

    Keep working GP. Thanks for your contributions to SS and Medicare.

  84. gp Says:

    Enjoy your “retirement income” as double digit inflation reduces it’s value down to dogfood dinners for you and your poor poor wife.
    I work by choice because it’s honorable and rewarding. The money is secondary.
    Maybe if you hadn’t retired, your mind wouldn’t be sliding so bad.
    Sad, very sad to see a somewhat productive member of society decline to the point of being little more than a skidmark!

  85. mark2001 Says:

    Poor GP… I have COLA’s on my defined pension and SS, and the Market is doing well for the IRA’s. Have a net worth over a million. So don’t worry about me. Sure you work for the “reward”. I earned my money “honorably”, spent and invested wisely. And have contributed to America in every way asked over my working career. More than you in some. But if it makes you feel better about your situation, good luck with that. Maybe if you had some skills and education, you could retire, too.

  86. gp Says:

    Keep working GP. Thanks for your contributions to SS and Medicare.
    Never once in my life have I even considered “collecting” on either!
    I have grown to look at it as a charitable contribution to saps like yourself!
    Would much rather provide for myself than rely on an iffy ponzi scheme to keep me afloat.
    Gubmint money always has strings attached and I refuse to be a puppet like yourself.

  87. mark2001 Says:

    Glad you don’t want it… I guess you can just keep working until you drop over. Strings attached? You mean living like a citizen in America? Obeying the laws and such? Considering the public good? It is just called being a country loving patriotic American. Sorry you have no idea what that is.

  88. Architek Says:

    Don’t care.

  89. mark2001 Says:

    BTW GP.. If you pay into SS and Medicare, and your Employer does, or you pay both halves of your SS contribution, it isn’t charity. It is an investment in your old age. Some exceed their contributions, some die sooner. But seems you have no idea what charity is. I guess that makes you the sap.

  90. Robertg Says:

    Thought this site was for Buccaneers talk? How come we get all this Brandon and Trump crap. He lost, move on

  91. Rod Munch Says:

    Mark2001 – the only COLA you have is Coca-Cola, which has lead to diabetes, which has lead to your fat rear end sitting at home on disability. You’re a sad, miserable person. I’ll pray for you.

  92. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Wow, are these grown men or has Joe brought in CNN & FOX correspondents to screw with us? Talk about those with issues?

  93. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Francisco, NO Cooper, NO Lamb, NO chance. Dallas getting arse kicked.

  94. gp Says:

    It’s kinda funny, kinda sad…
    Every time I’ve heard someone brag about how well they’ve planned for their financial future, they’ve run out long before they died.
    If, as you say, and I question the validity of everything you say, you do have a sweet mill stashed to keep you going… Sorry to say, your messiah is really going to make things hard on you starting real soon. For instance, after they print up all that new money(if you know anything about economics) your sweet mill is going to have the value of about 500K. And when that doesn’t do what they want and they double down on it, you’ll be down to 250K.
    Futures not looking so bright for your retirement now. But you do have your 4% COLA to keep you afloat. There IS that. Good luck smart boy!
    You’ll have free internet though so you can still irritate us honorable working types with your constant skidmarks all over our computer screens. By the looks of it, that’s all you have to live for anyways.
    And I’ll continue to make my charitable contributions to your diet of dogfood and gubmint cheese.
    It’s the least I could do for a sad sack such as yourself.
    You’re welcome.

  95. HomerSimpsonRocks Says:

    Not surprised. The startling thing is that Rick Stroud fell for it.

  96. Joe Says:

    Wow, the thing that shocks me is that he thinks it makes sense to have a personal chef?

    Actually this is a helluva smart investment for a skill position player. Yeah, even for Brown.

    These guys are looking to stay in peak physical health (well, at least not Vita Vea). There is a reason Brady (who Joe is very confident has a personal chef too) has such a crazy diet. Being at your peak physically means millions for these guys.

    Provided the chef is concocting very healthy meals for Brown, this is both smart and a very, very savvy investment.

    At team facilities in the cafeterias, there are chefs there who cook very healthy meals for players. It’s not like a grade school cafeteria where old women sling some mass-produced gruel onto a tray with sections.

  97. mark2001 Says:

    Psycho Rod chimes in. Doesn’t even know what a COLA is. No wonder he falls for all that fake news, designed to brainwash dolts. I had need for disability… 40 years of employment. Something you will never see.

  98. mark2001 Says:

    Shows how little you know, GP. Financial guy…well diversified…six figure income and only spend about half of it. But again, I suppose little can be expected from a guy that doesn’t even know the difference between a charity and an investment. Poor feeble minded alternative fact folks.

  99. mark2001 Says:

    I had need for disability. Though is someone truly needs it, I don’t begrudge them it. Though I wish the program was better designed to get people jobs they could do well even with their disability rather than give them financial help, full SS and early Medicare. But we are a nation that takes care of those in need, and that is the way it is designed.

  100. mark2001 Says:

    I had NO need. Keyboard must be dirty.

  101. Cobraboy Says:

    I am amused how Loyal Comrade Mark actually thinks his neo-communism is patriotic.

    Reminds me of 1939 Germany.

  102. Cobraboy Says:

    I agree, a personal chef is a wise investment.

    I also agree that when you hire said personal chef, paying him is also a wise investment.

  103. mark2001 Says:

    Agree regarding having a personal Chef. It is a smart and savvy investment. Not only do you want the proper nutrition to keep in tip top shape, but you wouldn’t want to have to prepare it yourself after a road trip or a hard day at practice. Then there is the shopping… Let someone else do all that. That professionally does it better than you do. Why wouldn’t you have one if you are making millions a year?

  104. gp Says:

    I am my own personal chef
    Over the years, I have had opportunity to eat at a lot of establishments and enjoyed many very good meals, but, very few have been able to match what I can do at home.
    As a ‘for instance” my youngest told me just recently that he was offered home made spaghetti in an Italian friends household, and couldn’t enjoy it because it couldn’t hold a candle to mine( I’m German BTW). He was actually a little upset with me for spoiling his dining options. (He also made grievance with raising him to think for himself, saying it would be so much easier to just “follow the herd”. but that’s another story.)
    Granted, I am not in peak physical condition as we all hope our team is. A little overweight(about 20 lbs depending on the day) mostly because I like carbs in various forms. I pull my weight pretty well though and only anonymous types ever try to pull my chain. Real people get along with me and I with them beautifully.

  105. mark2001 Says:

    Social Security and Medicare are Neo-Communism in these guys books. Without them about half the retired folks would starve or live on the streets. I don’t know where these guys get off, but people pay into those systems most of their lives. Most don’t ever sniff the wage base where they have reached the SS cap. They paid it, and have earned it. Sure… add employer HC, food and drug safety laws, minimum wage, child labor laws…all communism in these guys books. The only America these guys aspire to live in is 1800’s America..

  106. Joe Says:

    That professionally does it better than you do. Why wouldn’t you have one if you are making millions a year?

    Might even be a tax writeoff (business expense).

  107. mark2001 Says:

    No old age golden years for American… Just years of death, decay and disease. That is the vision of these new John Bircher/ Joe McCarthy acolytes.

  108. Joe Says:

    I also agree that when you hire said personal chef, paying him is also a wise investment.

    Antonio Brown appears to be allergic to paying bills (allegedly). Didn’t he get into a hassle in Miami with someone (another chef or interior decorator if memory serves) for not paying his bills? Like a couple of dudes showed up at his condo and they got into a fight?

  109. mark2001 Says:

    Yeah Admin….Paying all your creditors is a smart and honorable thing to do. But some avoid it the legal way, through bankruptcy, and other just refuse. Your word should be your bond, secured by your honor.

    The amount of money, or ones ability to pay, is only a factor in the bigger picture of ones character. Someone with honorable character will find a way.

  110. gp Says:

    Shows how little you know
    I was just pointing out one thing that is quite visible on the horizon. Your answer (and previous posts) tell me that you are far less savvy than you think and have no IDEA what’s about to hit your investments.
    You think your skidmarks are bad now?
    I wish you luck!
    I personally hate to see seniors eating out of cans.

  111. RC Says:

    If you’re not about the Bucs, then go to another website.

  112. mark2001 Says:

    My only concern is how to spend it.. not how to earn more… if you can’t handle money with an MBA and employment in the financial industry, your experience was basically worthless. But it isn’t. And your need to keep working, and your lack of understanding that SS and Medicare aren’t charity, and belief in all sorts of medical quackery, among other things, indicate again that your understanding of what is savvy and what isn’t is sadly lacking.

  113. kyle Says:

    seriously, weve lost 2 in a row and we are worried about this bullspit?? tomorrow is a must win with the surging colts on the horizon.

  114. gp Says:

    Once again skidmark shows his lack of knowledge, this time history.
    Before the gubmint stuck it’s nose into the American Family, retirees were the best teachers to our children and grandchildren(babysitters too).
    The family took care of it’s own, AND benefited from it. Now we ship these repositories of wisdom off to nursing homes, never to be seen again unless there is an open casket. 1800’s you say? IMHO that’s one small part of it I wouldn’t mind never seeing go away. Our country has suffered greatly for it. For one thing, we have internet trolls who have no real clue what “love of country” really means. Just sayin.

  115. mark2001 Says:

    Kyle.. would you or me worrying about winning the game tomorrow night make any difference? What can you say or I say, that will make one bit of difference? Just saying.

  116. gp Says:

    if you can’t handle money with an MBA and employment in the financial industry, your experience was basically worthless.
    You’ve said it yourself.
    If you’re thinking a million in assets in this remarkably unstable(and soon to get worse) economy with ‘all of yer learnin’ , Oh well…
    Enjoy your stay in the gubmint funded old folks home when the money runs out and the kids figure you’re too much trouble to take care of.
    Personally secure in the knowledge that my kids would never even think of such an atrocity.

  117. mark2001 Says:

    GP… so I was right. You do want to turn back the clock to 1800’s. Newsflash…that 1800’s America couldn’t compete on the world stage, or even defend itself in todays environment. I don’t even know if the government could survive this environment. Many kids couldn’t afford to take in their parents. They can’t even afford housing in the Tampa Bay area, and move away from their parents. And without the programs like SS they paid into, it would be much worse as they got old. These programs were designed to respond to problems in our society, they didn’t cause the problems. Reform yes,… but 1800’s America? Impossible.

  118. D-Rome Says:

    The TBT, which is part of the establishment that carries the water for the DNC, has turned to yellow journalism and loses a little more credibility with this story in the process. Soon enough you won’t even get the standard 5 free articles a month from that lousy site.

  119. NonMediLibTB12Fan Says:

    [Per the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, a credible paper, there is not yet a known motive. — Joe]

  120. mark2001 Says:

    GP..it isn’t that unstable. It is just another phase. We’ve seen it before. Your favorite media folks are trying to panic you because they want you to hate the current situation and turn to them for the answers. But they have nothing for you.

  121. gp Says:

    I guess we’ll have to add reading comprehension to your list of failings, if it’s not already there. It’s soooo long!
    Have your pudding and go to bed with dreams of floating nursing homes in your head.
    So So sad.

  122. mark2001 Says:

    Christmas parade before Thanksgiving? Where is that happening. But I guess if people would carry guns to church, or a parade, cars or anything else is possible.

  123. mark2001 Says:

    I read all your blather, GP. Get to bed… tomorrow is another day to “operate” your hand shovel.

  124. gp Says:

    We’ve seen it before.
    Please tell me. When has our gubmint printed trillions of dollars to dump into the market to “stimulate” it?
    Even GW’s atrocious stimulus package didn’t come close to that and it allowed folks to make their own decisions with it.
    It also didn’t require our biggest employers to pay for it. If you can’t see the potential for disaster in just that, not even considering the money grabs that will affect investors (yes, your 401 and IRA) directly… Just can’t help you dude!

  125. gp Says:

    Sad waste of an MBA, wildly assuming that you’re telling the truth on that one!
    Can’t see it…Just like you

  126. gp Says:

    tomorrow is another day to “operate” your hand shovel.
    Missed it again skidmark!
    Yardwork is for the weekends!
    Almost as frustration as dealing with you(weeds suck!) but very gratifying when friends and family remark on it.
    Such things require a hands on approach. I know, foreign concept to a “millionaire” SMH

  127. Rod Munch Says:

    Mark, the fact you take a joke literally just shows what a d-bag you are. You should drive down to Key West, a place I’m sure you know well, then swim south about 90 miles. Lots of sun, lots of laws, don’t have to worry about pesky things like personal freedom and you’re rewarded for turning in your neighbor to the government for the most minor of things. Someone doesn’t wear a mask? Turn them in, get them sent to a gulag. Someone says they don’t like a government policy? Turn them in, get them sent to a gulag! Someone disagrees with dear leader?!? Turn them in, get them sent to a gulag! You’ll love it there!

  128. NonMediLibTB12Fan Says:


  129. NonMediLibTB12Fan Says:

    [Speculating who the culprit is and claiming you know who it is are two different things and wild accusations like that won’t fly on this site. — Joe]

  130. NonMediLibTB12Fan Says:

    [Buh, bye! — Joe]

  131. gp Says:


  132. gp Says:

    40 years of employment. Something you will never see.
    Sorry, that was a response to Rod and I only scanned it
    You worked 40 years in financial advising and have ONLY a million to show for it!!!???
    Sure glad I never looked up your firm!
    That’ freaking SAD dude!
    I don’t know what more to say
    A freaking ditch digger could do that in 40 years just on his 401K!

  133. gp Says:

    There’s Got to be a big fat lie in there somewhere!

    Skidmark is your name!

  134. mark2001 Says:

    Poor GP… Probably heating up the shovel this morning for his day of intellectual labor. Sure the government prints money…and more when it has to cover the debt from the nice tax cuts we got under the former president. Borrowing and Less Revenue. And decades of unfunded wars. But if you like “nicknames”…. all I can say is Gullible Peon… because that really does fit you perfectly.

    BTW.. over the years raising a few kids, paying to put them through college, recently new car and truck and such…Entertainment… the later not included in that Net Worth Number. I’m finding ways to spend it. And I don’t include my pension or SS in that calculation. Including that in your net worth is fools gold. You shouldn’t include any future income stream you need to live on. But whatever. Do you know how many Americans my age have that net worth? American’s financial statistics? I’m sure you don’t, gullible.

  135. mark2001 Says:

    For most Americans, when you leave those streams out, the most they have is a house…if they paid for 30 years and haven’t refinanced or reversed mortgaged it they may have substantial net worth, and if you want, you could include the car, wedding rings, and such, so be it. But that is about it…and why they would starve without SS.

  136. Listnfrmafar Says:

    ” Let’s Go Mark & gp! Babbling idiots, apparently friends and family are bored of your banter so you both chose to kidnap us to vent your political frustrations. Why don’t you both put up this so called millions you’re both hoarding and run for congress, then you’ll be free to bore as many individuals you can afford. If not, how about you keep your views to yourself!

  137. mark2001 Says:

    List.. it is a message board…you don’t like, don’t read. Your free choice.

    Regarding running for office… I earned mine with integrity. Why would I want to soil myself now? And BTW… you don’t need money to run for office… plenty of people out there trying to prop you up as long as you dance to their tune. Rubio had financially almost nothing when he started running for office. Now he is a rich man. And never had problems with campaign funding.

  138. mark2001 Says:

    And BTW List… Joe is the “big dog” on this board. He sets the rules, calls the shots. If he says “no”, time out…. that is it. Case closed. I believe in Capitalism, rules and the right of businesses to run them the way they choose.

  139. Listnfrmafar Says:

    FYI Mark, this is a blog I would assume for Bucs fans to share opinions on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, hence the name joebucsfan.com. I actually feel sorry for you that your day is consumed by political hate and that you have to use this portal to spew your warped opinion on what the major issues are causing the decline, trust and legitimacy of our nations politicians and media vehicles. Anyway, maybe gp is right, the name skidmark does fit.

  140. Mark Bennett Says:

    You can assume whatever you wish, List. But again, your assumptions mean nothing. And since your other posts have shown you to be a Bircher/Blaze fount of misinformation regarding the Vax and such, and you have freely made your fount of misinformation well known, I’m not surprised you would try to be an autocrat and take over this board.

  141. Listnfrmafar Says:

    Mark Bennett, please enlightening me as to where I have either supported and or negatively wrote anything regarding vax? So it is you that is misinformed. I am an Independent because I prefer to gather as much information I believe is correct that makes sense to me then form an opinion. I to believe in capitalism, I built and sold two businesses and currently run a 3rd. I have a BS in Organizational Behavior, a MS in Marketing & Communications and a MBA, ALL of which I paid for. You could not fathom my net worth yet unlike you, I believe I am no better than any other person posting on this site. If I post anything political it most likely is related to the exaggerated hate some share on both sides of the isle. Other than that go find someone else to push your narrative on, I’m not your guy.

  142. Gp Says:

    The fact that I do not steal time from my clients during the day speaks to my honor and integrity.
    The fact that you use this to attack me when you know I will not respond speaks to your complete lack of honor and integrity.

    Nothing more to said