Bruce Arians Appalled By Flag On Joe Tryon

August 15th, 2021

Bucco Bruce Arians

Super Bowl-winning coach Bruce Arians kept his emotions pretty much in check last night when speaking of the Bucs losing to the Bengals to open the preseason.

And while Arians didn’t lose it when discussing Joe Tryon’s personal foul when he cleanly sacked Brandon Allen, Arians did admit it may have been the worst call he’s seen in 10 years.

Arians claimed that Allen was running an option play, and thus was not protected by don’t-hit-too-hard quarterback rules. In that case, Allen is a runner and not a quarterback. Arians said this ruling has been in place in the NFL for years when a quarterback is considered a runner and the rules protecting them don’t apply.

Joe has watched the replay several times. It doesn’t look anything like Allen was an option quarterback (but who is Joe to question Arians?). Sure, Allen faked a handoff, but that doesn’t mean he instantly turned into a runner.

It sure appeared Allen was standing flat-footed when Tryon swallowed him up.

Option runner or quarterback, still, that is a ridiculous flag. Arians claims the explanation he got from the zebras on the call was that Tryon had too much bodyweight on the quarterback, whatever the hell that is supposed to mean.

If Roger Goodell’s NFL is going to be Powerpuff football, just put flags on quarterbacks. That way teams, coaches and fans alike will know if it is an illegal hit or clean tackle/sack (by pulling a flag).

Joe gets why the NFL wants to protect quarterbacks. They are major investments and if a team loses its starter that team is screwed (yes, Joe is aware Allen is not a starting quarterback).

At least if quarterbacks wear flags, fans won’t be insulted by asinine penalties like last night’s. When will officials and sports leagues learn that fans don’t pay to watch games or sit through rotten commercials to witness referees call insulting penalties?

29 Responses to “Bruce Arians Appalled By Flag On Joe Tryon”

  1. Medicated Pete Says:

    Joe can’t let this one go. He’s still seething in rage since last night. I just want Bucs to cut Ryan Griffin. We only need 3 QB’S

  2. Buc50 Says:

    I thought it was a penalty because you can see he lowered his head a bit when he delivered the hit. Tryon was intense though.

  3. Buc92’ Says:

    Please don’t mention anything about wearing flags Joe, I feel like the nfl already heading in That direction sadly … What they need to do is go back & reassess that rule & get it right …NBA always seems to get it right, same for NHL


  4. Dlavid Says:

    In light of the new agenda being put out by the NFL , this is about what fans can expect from here on out . Go woke , go broke . The game is fastly fading away . Interest is waning more and more .

  5. Lordcornelius Says:

    It was so bad lol. Tryon looks legit tho man. I was keying on all his snaps and he was blowing plays up for the most part in both run / pass.

    So stoked for the season and so happy I moved back home from Denver (well kind of – I’m in St Pete and grew up in North Tampa). I’ll be going week 2 with the wife since that’s the first affordable game lol.

    Go Bucs!!

  6. Hodad Says:

    More D lineman need to do what Suh does. Just shove them to the ground with two hands, don’t hit them at all, you can’t. There was a play during the game where Griffin gets hit from behind below the knees after the throw, and no penalty. It was clearly a preseason game for the refs too.

  7. Bucsfanman Says:

    I wish people would stop trying to invoke the word “woke” into every conversation. This has been a trend for decades, nothing new.
    It was a garbage penalty, plain and simple!

  8. Darin Says:

    RPO. Run pass option.

  9. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    This is why an undefeated season is so difficult…..a couple of ill-timed calls late in a game can affect a close score game….and there are many of those.

    The bottom line…..the should allow a coach’s challenge on any call….judgement or not…..while keeping the number of challenges the same…..why not.

  10. Kentucky Buc Says:

    It was an RPO. If your not allowed to hit the QB on a RPO your putting the D at a disadvantage which is what the league wants. The NFL is going the way of the No Touch League(NBA).

  11. Señor Harry in Costa Rica Says:

    It was clearly not a penalty, even if the QB was not a runner.

    LOVED what I saw in Tryon. Watched him on every D play. He is supper quick. They did not run to his side much last night, but I really liked the spin move Tryon did at the goal line – spun past all the Oline to land almost in front of the RB, overshot him by a hair. Tryon looked awesome.

    Also love what we saw in Hamilton – he improved his chances to make it on the squad.

    Vaughn looked really good (but not in the return game – don’t understand why they kept putting him back there); especially since he is our 4th RB. Gio did what he was supposed to – caught the ball well on 3rd down and got us two conversions.

    Darden showed his speed, he just needs to learn how to use it a little better. A little too much hand fighting instead of just running. I wish they would have given Darden more shots at returns instead of Vaughn.

    If they keep 4 QBs, that is a waste of Trask. Not saying Trask is the answer, but he will lose development practice snaps if there are 4 QBs; that just wouldn’t make any sense whatsoever. Griffin has had his opportunities, move on.

  12. DoooshLaRue Says:


    BFM is triggered by the woke word.

    Better tread lightly.

  13. PSL Bob Says:

    Griffin looked totally out of sync last night. I’ve been a big fan of his but have to admit Gabbert looked much better last night.

  14. SB~LV Says:

    Long hair 48 is going to get tons of playing time, to rest those LBs that will make the final 53 , sorry but he simply doesn’t have the speed to play in the NFL

  15. ModHairKen Says:

    Tryon’s helmet looked like it hit the QB’s helmet. Not happy about the call, but that is a rule. The body weight explanation is ridiculous. It was a beautiful play on Tryon’s part. He is fast and closes. He looks very long. He covers ground fast.

    Also agree with MedicatedPete, time for Griffin to go.

  16. Bird Says:

    I agree joes

    Joke call. A few in the game. The int call was the same
    Hope they get it right in the regular season

  17. Winny Testaverde Says:

    If nothing else it shows BA has Tryon’s back and doesn’t want him to lose his aggressiveness. There’s so little to like about preseason games…except a flash play here or there by rookies. Even then…in the words of Joe…these plays are often made vs future bouncers, used cars salesmen and management trainees at Enterprise Rental Cars (where they’ll pick you up ).

  18. David Says:

    Senor Harry

    Agree with all that. Good points. Tryon, Trask, Darden … all showed serious potential
    Most of the rest of the youngsters need to step it up. Especially young receivers, there was not a lot of separation and a lot of dropped balls

  19. Wayne PEREZ Says:

    To man bad calls

  20. Leighroy Says:

    I think Hodqd nailed it; it’s preseason for the refs too. They’ll get feedback that they screwed this call up, and JT will learn that just bc you can doesn’t mean you should in the NFL, bc these calls are so subjective.

  21. Bucsfanman Says:

    Doosh- Nah! It’s just overused. We traded “fake news” for “woke”. Now people can’t think or speak on their own without talking points. It shows laziness and it brings nothing to the conversation.
    Kind of like “triggered”! 🙂

  22. Brandon Says:

    You morons do know that we will carry Griffin until the final preseason game, right? We need him to take snaps to keep the other guys from getting hurt. He’ll be here until final cuts, until then, STFU.

  23. Cannon Says:

    Are preseason games called tighter than regular season games? I seem to recall reading that here at one point.

  24. Cobraboy Says:

    Stuard looks like a nice kid with a 4.2 heart…and 5.0 feet.

    Like SB_LV said: lots of effort, but just lacks the speed.

  25. Cobraboy Says:

    I hope Tryon doesn’t change a thing. Let QB’s get nervous thinking about the guy smashing them to the ground…even if it costs an occasional 15.

    Psyche game.

  26. Buc1987 Says:

    I lost my mind when they showed the replay.

  27. Red Skeleton Says:

    Bucco Bruce could be right. Tryon was on him so fast there was no time to know if he was a runner or doing pass action. The call was bad either way. Maybe he needs to count “Mississippi’s so plays get started before he gets in the backfield. Looking forward to seeing him working with Sack Barrett and JPP 🙂

  28. DavidBigBucFan99 Says:

    Did you see how fast Tryon processed the fact that the qb kept the ball??? He played the rb first but instantly saw he didn’t have it and crushed the qb. I watched that replay 20 times, you can’t help it seeing the completeness of his play. O Connor was right behind him as well. Real nice piece of defensive work right there fellas! That roughing penalty wasn’t as bad as I thought, it could’ve gone either way call no call.

  29. DavidBigBucFan99 Says:

    Doosh please, guys like you always get triggered when someone brings up race or color but you use woke to refer to black players like Lebron who bring up social justice. Get over yourself. You guys always bring up your political views up here but can’t handle color always crying race baiting/card.