Two Second-Year Players, Two Different Arians Takes

July 31st, 2021

If there are serious position battles on the Bucs, they lie at running back and among the bottom of the receivers’ depth chart.

And two second-year players are in the mix in those areas, running back Ke’Shawn Vaughn and WR Tyler Johnson.

Bucco Bruce Arians was asked about both after today’s first-in-pads practice and shared sort of contrasting views.

“Ke’Shawn’s been spot on. You know I really like where he’s at,” Arians said, adding preseason will reveal a lot about Vaughn’s progress. But “he’s where he needs to be.”

On Johnson, well, “He came back a little heavy and he’s getting back in shape, which is his own fault,” Arians said, noting Johnson has made big plays and the Bucs look forward to him returning to game fitness.

Joe’s not about to criticize a guy for mowing down too much food or getting soft, two things Joe is good at. But damn, that’s a bad decision by Johnson on a team with a loaded receivers room and a speedy rookie at the position, fourth-round pick Jaelon Darden.

Vaughn and Johnson certainly are guys to watch closely through August.

As Joe shared after leaving the White House with the Bucs, there’s a lot of good feelings about Vaughn among Bucs’ power brokers.

27 Responses to “Two Second-Year Players, Two Different Arians Takes”

  1. Medicated Pete Says:

    Maybe Tyler Johnson married into an Italian family & they constantly make him eat.

  2. Casual Observer Says:

    Both have excellent careers in store. Glad they are Bucs.

  3. The Red Mirage Says:

    Not your best effort Pete.

  4. Kentucky Buc Says:

    We’ve come to expect better (or worse) from u Pete. 😂

  5. Jerry R Jones Says:

    He very well could’ve just put on some extra muscle and needs to lean down. Arians is a good motivator. I’m sure Tyler will do his best to comply.

  6. SB~LV Says:

    Lol … nothing but coaching 101 lighting a fire, firing a reminder shot that he has to WORK and earn his spot !

  7. SOEbuc Says:

    Bruce says a lot of bullstuff, but it sounds like he’s starting to play the head coach role, and that’s a very good thing.

  8. BillyBucoff Says:

    Might be 5 pounds.
    And yes I agree Arians seeing these minute details is great.
    Let the coaches coach and you manage.

    LFG Bucs!!

  9. AtlBuc Says:

    TJ would start on a lot of other teams, but he will probably start the season on the practice squad.

  10. Duane Says:

    I guess we know why Tyler Johnson doesnt get more snaps. Banged up last year to start training camp and shows up heavy to this one. Of course BA has to say something about a second year skill player that shows up heavy expecting to make this roster. Put him in the dog house.

  11. Hawk Says:

    Johnson has enough tape to make him valuable in a trade. The 5th/6th receiver on this squad might be 2nd/3rd on a lot of others.

  12. webster Says:

    If any of you think the bucs are going to risk cutting johnson to try to put him on a practice squad, then u clearly have not paid attention to how the bucs have built this team.

  13. AlabamaBucsFan Says:

    Tyler Johnson is not considered a speedy WR. Five pounds is a big deal when you are one of the slowest WRs on the roster. I bet BA was hoping he lost few pounds during the offseason.

  14. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Red Flag #1.

  15. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    He can & will lose at least 5 pounds at the first practice in pads……

    TJ ain’t & I said ain’t goin’ nowhere!!!

  16. SB~LV Says:


  17. Winny Testaverde Says:

    Now that I think of it…Johnson did look heavier in the post with him & BA sitting in his signature, customized cart. Not a smart way to try and move up the ranks of a SB winner with a stacked receiver room ( who added a speedy draft pick ).

  18. firethecannons Says:

    Interesting article Joe, love to comment but I am fed up with every single comment in moderation. Wonder if it has anything to do with being on a permanent twitter ban also.

    Bet that Vaughn and Johnson both get opportunity next preseason and season as it is long. Hoping we do not play our main guys in preseason!

  19. Jmarkbuc Says:

    In Florida in August you could lose 5lbs. Walking to the mailbox.

  20. SlyPirate Says:

    Tyler should be working to get better … not to get back to his rookie form. Hopefully he learns how to be a professional athlete.

  21. m0j0 Says:

    Johnson is a gamer, he will be fine. And this FL heat will cause a lot of Bucs players to lose weight, so I wouldn’t worry too much about it. This is just Arians pushing everyone on the team to achieve their full potential.

  22. SRQ Bucs Fan Says:

    Pete might be onto something. I dated an 115# Italian young lady in my youth. By the time the main course was served I was bloated. Momma would pinch my cheek and drop another spoon of pasta on my plate. And then there was desert! Things didn’t work out … I couldn’t eat enough LOL

  23. Steve Burke Says:

    Hey Pete, Kinda like the character Richie in the movie “The Wanderers” when he gets the xxxl Hawaiian shirt and the boys tell him ” don’t worry you’ll grow into it”

  24. SOEbuc Says:

    And Ke’ will likely get the most touches in PS. Excited to see.

  25. DavidBigBucsFan99 Says:

    Keyshawn flashed last year with some very good runs look forward to him stepping it up this year. TJ coming into camp out of shape shows he’s not pro level. He already hit his sophomore slump but he’s making plays out of shape bodes well. He makes the team hopefully doesn’t make the same mistake next year.

  26. DavidBigBucsFan99 Says:

    Yeah Joe your moderation is ridiculous at times. Last post had nothing even slightly mod worthy yet still went into moderation

  27. gotbbucs Says:

    The better Vaughn looks in camp and preseason, the more Fournette might want think twice about this refusal to get vaccinated thing.
    Arians isn’t going to want to deal with any avoidable dilemma’s during the regular season, and these unvaccinated guys are putting themselves squarely in the cross hair’s come final cut time.