Bruce Arians Coy About Joe Tryon
May 16th, 2021
“Jason, please reassure me that Joe Tryon is not related to J.R. Sweezy. They both played in Seattle before we got them you know.”
Why is Joe having flashbacks to J.R. Sweezy?
Sweezy, you may remember, was signed in March free agency as a right guard when the Bucs hoped to move Ali Marpet to center for the 2016 season. But Sweezy blew out his back shortly after the Bucs signed him.
Still, many fans wouldn’t believe this and hollered at Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht for signing a guy who was damaged goods, even though that was a patently idiotic charge.
For months, Sweezy absolutely refused to even discuss how he messed up his back. And the Bucs were equally quiet. Sweezy was placed on the physically unable to perform list before the end of preseason. He never practiced or played a snap that season for the Bucs.
It was not until later that Sweezy finally admitted he screwed his back up. With Sweezy and the Bucs refusing to comment on the nature of Sweezy’s injury, it only fueled speculation among fans that the Bucs goofed up and hadn’t done their homework.
What is the old saying, the coverup is often worse than the crime?
Well, Sweezy — who at least to Joe was a first-class dude — comes to mind because of what is going on with first-round pick Joe Tryon.
The edge rusher had some recent incident that caused him to have his knee scoped (aka arthroscopic surgery). The cat was let out of the bag that, despite being in Tampa for rookie minicamp (you only need to see his Instagram account to confirm this), Tryon was not on the field for practices.
Friday, Bucco Bruce Arians was asked about Tryon and responded that Tryon had his knee scoped. Yesterday, Arians was asked about Tryon again but he avoided offering any specifics.
“He did something when he was working out and had it fixed right away,” Arians said.
Something? That could mean damn near anything.
The difference between Tryon and Sweezy is that Sweezy’s injury happened after the Bucs signed him. Tryon’s came before the Bucs drafted him.
When Arians was asked yesterday if the Bucs knew about this mysterious “something” that happened to Tryon, Arians quickly responded, “Heck yeah!”
Let’s hope this “something” that happened to Tryon is as minor as Arians seems to suggest. But if it is minor, what’s the point of dancing?
May 16th, 2021 at 8:05 am
Joe, didn’t BA already address this in a team interview in which BA said it was a simple knee scope or is this something new?
May 16th, 2021 at 8:06 am
I see you covered it – rereading the entire posting.
May 16th, 2021 at 8:15 am
Like I said before….better a knee scope than an Uber grope….
Not to worry…..routine….minor….
May 16th, 2021 at 8:17 am
The bucs already have 2 red flags on their helmets but i put an extra one on for this guy.
May 16th, 2021 at 8:18 am
Most knee scopes- return to activity in 6 weeks, full recovery 3-4 months.
May 16th, 2021 at 8:25 am
Wouldn’t be the first player to hide and play through a ding protecting his draft slotting… it is a bit disturbing
That said it doesn’t sound like it will have any impact on how he plays in the NFL which is always the big question surrounding 1st round picks.
May 16th, 2021 at 8:33 am
SB
Too bad he didn’t even play last season.
May 16th, 2021 at 9:03 am
It sounds to me like Bruce answered your questions.
May 16th, 2021 at 9:20 am
Invoking bad memories of the JR Sweezy’s “situation” – eh? Should have thrown Carl Nicks name in too for maximum effect……..
High probability that the results of Sweezy’s back injury and what will happen with Tryon’s tweeked knee are two completely different things.
Spinal injuries can be very tricky – because of all the nerve involvement.
A simple knee scope is no big deal. Probably just a minor little meniscus tear – it didn’t feel right so the kid wanted to get it checked out to make sure it wasn’t serious – which it likely wasn’t as the indication was that Tryon will be fine in a few weeks.
May 16th, 2021 at 9:38 am
Sweezy was actually from NC State, I believe. One was a college team, and one a professional team. They were both injured guys that we either signed or drafted, that we knew about the injury or we didn’t know. But other than that, I don’t see much similarity.
May 16th, 2021 at 9:48 am
I;m with Joe. Don’t like it. No sir.
May 16th, 2021 at 10:03 am
“What’s the point of dancing?” Arians has already addressed this; no dancing there. Do the Bucs want every team in the league to know specifics on every injury & surgery their players have had? I doubt it. That’d give them something to potentially exploit in games. Oh well, mountain meet molehill.
May 16th, 2021 at 10:04 am
Whatever it was, only required arthroscopic surgery, not open surgery, which would be a cause for more concern. I wouldn’t be overly concerned at all and since he’s not expected to start anyways, definitely not rush him back prematurely.
May 16th, 2021 at 10:26 am
Seems like a non story was known during the draft and was talked about already happens quite alot in the NFL pretty quick recovery time not really concerned about the number three on the depth chart needing a minor scope done
May 16th, 2021 at 10:33 am
BA CLEARLY said after Day 1, that it was a scope. the “something” was just in reference to how the injury happened.
May 16th, 2021 at 10:37 am
So this guy sits out a year, claims to have been working out the whole time, and only jusr now has a knee procedure when he was supposed to go back to work?
Either there is something wrong with the way he is working out or he has gotten cozy not working. I wouldn’t sign him until I saw him run. 2019 is a long time ago.
This is the Bucs remember. These things happen to the Bucs .
May 16th, 2021 at 10:46 am
A back back and knee scope are the same?
May 16th, 2021 at 10:49 am
If Joe’s right he will never take a snap for the Bucs….
May 16th, 2021 at 10:50 am
Good edge rushers whose talent is readily apparent rarely last until the last pick in the first round unless there is something wrong with them. Surely every team knew about this injury and maybe we got a steal.
May 16th, 2021 at 10:57 am
One of many negatives of the covid off-season was limited medical evaluations. Hopefully it’s not anything serious.
May 16th, 2021 at 10:58 am
Probably should look at the Photos in the Buccaneers Official Website before declaring Tryon wasn’t on the field.
May 16th, 2021 at 11:01 am
If he’s not participating by training camp, then I’ll be concerned.
May 16th, 2021 at 11:26 am
Not sure how you came up with that. smh 🙁
May 16th, 2021 at 11:53 am
BA and Joe have answered my questions satisfactorily. Obviously, Tryon was drafted for his longer-term potential rather than for his early impact.
May 16th, 2021 at 12:05 pm
Smh did you write an article comparing Kendall Beckwith to Vea when he went down in rookie OTA? Slice.
May 16th, 2021 at 12:24 pm
So why didn’t the team announce JT’s scope/absence before camp?
Not a great start for JT. At least, with the fans.
May 16th, 2021 at 1:04 pm
@Defense Rules: funny how casual fans want all the excruciating details for injured NFL players, but nobody says a word when the NHL announces a player has an “upper-body” or “lower-body” injury and nobody inquires about any details.
BTW: Go Bolts! I hope their poor performance for the last month of the season is over with the team getting healthy going into the Cup playoffs.
But will Kucherov & Stamkos be a difference-maker with all the time they took off the ice?
May 16th, 2021 at 1:05 pm
Brady had a scope and nobody says a word of panic.
May 16th, 2021 at 1:17 pm
The Bucs should have went with first a healthy player, second one that played in 2020, and third from a major program. Tryon checks no, no, no. Sorry, UW is not a major program. We passed on Ojurali? from UGA, Barrmore from Alabama, the guard Davis from OSU, the list is long. The real value was O line at 32. I wished they would have traded down. Imo, when your first round pick can’t participate in a frickin Rookie Camp, that is strike one. TB having a knee scope, totally understandable at his age. 20 year old kid who hasn’t played a down since 2019, red flag. The Bucs are not telling us the truth.
May 16th, 2021 at 1:27 pm
If he’s not going full power in training camp, this pick will be the worst 1st round bust since Bowers.
May 16th, 2021 at 1:36 pm
Easy money Sweezey and the paid, year-long rehab in sunny Tampa Bay!!
May 16th, 2021 at 1:38 pm
From Wiki:
On August 1, 2018, Sweezy was re-signed by the Seattle Seahawks.[14] He was a starter in all 15 games he played.
^This being AFTER his cushy rehab on the Glazer tab
May 16th, 2021 at 1:41 pm
LOL He burned the Bucs…BUT…..that was before the savior who takes away the sins of a franchise. Why dwell on an ugly past? We have the one and only GOAT!
May 16th, 2021 at 1:42 pm
The Sweezey Swindle brings back bad memories of a dark time in Buc history. The first two picks give me less confidence than Aguayo lining up for a 40 yard FG attempt…speaking of bad memories.
May 16th, 2021 at 1:46 pm
It Is.
May 16th, 2021 at 2:04 pm
@Cobraboy Says:
“Brady had a scope and nobody says a word of panic.”
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that is just a BAD comparison… I don’t care what comes out of this, the fact he opted out was more than enough reason for me NOT to draft the kid. IMO he soft and selfish.
TB12 played the whole season (covid period), with his knee not 100% and some times under pain. He wants to give more to the game and to us.
This kid thinks ONLY of himself, I’m telling you. That is a concern …. but now what is done is done. Lets move on, who cares for a almost 2nd round draft… 🙄
May 16th, 2021 at 2:40 pm
This brings back visions of Ex Buc’s like Arrelious Benn or Dekoda Watson. Players who had lot’s of potential but were often injured.
May 16th, 2021 at 2:53 pm
I don’t like it. Guess we will find out how serious it really is if he isn’t ready for training camp….
May 16th, 2021 at 3:06 pm
Obviously someone didn’t do their homework. Didn’t play all year and then only now taking care of an injury? Can’t even pass a physical? This will be a bust.
May 16th, 2021 at 4:57 pm
@crazybucs_CL: so you would have passed on Brady if he had a ‘scope before the draft?
Do you not understand how minor an injury has to be for just a ‘scope?
Not many players say “well, I had a ‘scope and my career was finished.”
May 16th, 2021 at 6:02 pm
I am ^^^Anonymous^^^ above.
I’ve had two scopes, one for a meniscus, one for a “clean up”, no big deal, especially if you attack rehab.
May 16th, 2021 at 7:18 pm
Cobraboy … Kucherov & Stamkos have both been difference-makers their whole careers. Rusty at this point? I’m sure they are (since Kuch missed the regular season & Stamkos has missed the last 18 games). But hey, they’re pros & they’ll git er done.
In their last 10 games, the Bolts went 6-3-1 which isn’t all that bad without their 2 big guns being in the lineup IMO (last 3 games were nothing to write home about though). Coach always seems to find a way to get them t rise to the occasion though. And they’ll need to do exactly that to get past the Panthers.
May 16th, 2021 at 10:37 pm
yeah what’s up with that…
big sweez really ganked the glazers and sat on his azz…
then he leaves and it’s like “ok time to get back to work”
May 17th, 2021 at 2:00 pm
Let’s not get our panties in a knot just yet. It was just a scope.