NFL Draft Night 2, Open Thread

April 30th, 2021

OK folks, we are back at it. Bucs have two picks tonight.

Comment on anything and everything throughout the close of the draft, including the expected second- and third-round picks of the Bucs at Nos. 64 and 95, barring a trade.

Who should the Bucs target? Will there be curveballs and surprises to push a player within range of the Bucs trading up? Have at it fans, but please do play nice.

284 Responses to “NFL Draft Night 2, Open Thread”

  1. LUVMYBUCS Says:


  2. Rod Munch Says:

    These idiots on TV need to shutup and just announce the picks, then highlight the player, repeat. It’s really not hard.

  3. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    • Alim McNeill
    • Boogie Basham
    • Elerson Smith
    • Kelvin Joseph
    • Elijah Molden

    • Dillon Radunz
    • Walker Little
    • D’Ante Smith
    • Creed Humphrey
    • Trey Smith
    • Amon-Ra St. Brown

  4. JimmyJack Says:

    This has always been my favorite draft day. This is where you build a team. I like ot better when it goes all day starting Sat. morning…….But if you ditch work on friday this is fun too!!!

    GO BUCS!!!!

  5. Bird Says:

    Quinn meinerz ?

  6. jugheadfla Says:

    Not one of of LBs that people were complaining about us not taking have come off the board yet…..hmmmm

  7. Winny Testaverde Says:

    There’s the draft thread! Actually hoping it’s not a QB…maybe a center…do like Bolton…including singer Michael Bolton ( as does Ira ).

  8. JimmyJack Says:

    LUV you got any punt returners in mind? I would not mind seeing us splurge a puck on a specialist.

  9. Adrnagy Says:

    Qb mills

  10. Bucs Guy Says:

    Ifeatu Malifonwu CB from Syracuse. Need someone to guard Pitts. I also like Oline Minearez from Wisc-Whitewater, Jenkins from OK St and Jackson Carmen from Clemson.

  11. SteveK Says:

    Give me Quinn Meinerz or another “big sexy” to build out the depth in the trenches.

  12. Bucs Guy Says:

    Sorry Jenkins is gone

  13. Adrnagy Says:

    Or qb Kellen Mond

  14. Bucs Guy Says:

    And now Carmen too

  15. Adrnagy Says:

    OL – Mayfield or Qb mills / mond

  16. Adrnagy Says:

    Unless DT Nixon is available.

  17. Strix-on Says:

    Wow…really like what Miami and Jacksonville are doing

  18. DoooshLaRue Says:

    No to Mond.

  19. Rod Munch Says:

    One of those inside LB’s should be there for the Bucs. They’ve added edge depth and if they could get a pass coverage LB to backup David, that would be huge with JPP and David getting up there in age.

    Going interior offensive line is another good option, and Licht has excelled at his OL picks, so I’d basically have full faith in whoever they picked if they go that route.

    But I think LB’s are going to take longer to develop, so when you’re building for next year, I think you get a year ahead… however Brady is your most important player by far, so if you’re planning on needing a new center or guard, you might want to get one now and see them for a year in practice before you put Brady behind them…

  20. SteveK Says:

    Helluva point, Munch, I’d just build depth on the o or d lines. Maybe take another skill player if a freaking stud is there.

    Do the Bucs take a “move” TE if they fall to add to the arsenal?

  21. Medicated Pete Says:

    I’ve been on the toilet for an hour. Did the Bucs trade up yet?

  22. Bucs Guy Says:

    Anybody think the Bucs go for a doubleshot with another Edge if Joseph Ossai TX or Azeez UGA is still there? I would love to see the Bucs stick to D and O lines plus a CB.

  23. Adrnagy Says:

    will it be safety. ?

  24. JGhotier Says:

    What’s going on w/ JOK?! Is there a medical red flag situation I’m not aware of…

  25. Bucs Guy Says:

    I think the Bucs will trade up in the 3rd.

  26. adam from ny Says:

    dang, i thought it started again at 8 pm tonight…i tuned in when drew pearson was acting like he’s a rock star…

    didn’t miss too much

  27. JGhotier Says:

    I keep hearing the Bucs/Trask rumors (I like Mills better personally), but if they are rated close, I wonder if Davis Mills would edge Trask out due to him being a captain and Trask not being one 🤷‍♂️

  28. Bucs Guy Says:

    JOK is a great player, but he’s kind of an in between guy. Lots of teams don’t know if they should use him as S or LB. I’ve seen him a lot and I think he can play LB easily in the NFL.

  29. Adrnagy Says:

    RB javonte Williams reminded me of Doug Martin.

  30. Bucs Guy Says:

    Remeber anything you heard in the last week or two is smoke.

  31. unbelievable Says:

    Good point Rod.

    I wouldn’t mind seeing them use some late rounders to scoop another 3rd round pick. Don’t think they have enough ammo to get another 2nd without giving up 1 next year. This year’s draft isn’t that strong to begin with.

  32. unbelievable Says:

    I like Moore a lot.

  33. JimmyJack Says:

    Gotta wonder if the Bucs are thinking QB here.

  34. alaskabuc Says:

    @ Buc Guy- I was thinking the exact same thing, almost too tempting to pass up Ossai or Ojulari if they are still there at 64. Wouldn’t hurt my feelings if Nick Bolton magically slips that far and we get some depth behind Lavonte and White.

  35. Adrnagy Says:

    NO to LB or edge

  36. JGhotier Says:

    To Dale Moore was one of my dudes in this Draft, but that post selection interview was kinda weird.

    He must’ve nervous, or wanted to go somewhere else I’d assume.

    That offense is starting to look lethal and really multiple in what they could possibly do w/ guys CNN like Hopkins, Murray, Moore, Kirk, AJ Green and Maxx Williams. RB situation is iffy though, but I’m sure this offense will be more air-raid and moving the QB off the spot (mixed w/ the dual threat option). Should be an interesting offense to watch this year, especially w/ Kingsbury at the helm.

  37. CaptainStagger Says:


    Trade up, that 4th or 5th rounder will never make this team anyway.

  38. Drunkinybor Says:

    I like the draft better when it was the 1st and 2 round together. This is silly how long it takes for the licks to come in.but it’s all about money money money moooonnnnaaayyy

  39. Rod Munch Says:

    If JOK is a tweener, that would be your perfect coverage LB. David is undersized for an inside 3-4 LB, that hasn’t hurt him in the least. I don’t know much about JOK except for seeing him as the biggest faller in the draft, but if he falls that far, based off extremely limited info, I think I’d like the pick.

  40. JGhotier Says:

    Rondale *** Moore ^^^

  41. Rod Munch Says:


  42. Buc You Says:

    Kyle Trask anyone?

  43. firethecannons Says:

    wtf! Browns fans are over the top at the draft, we need to reign this in way more. Put it on mute, read the pick already!!!!!

  44. Rod Munch Says:

    Drunkinybor – The coverage of the NFL draft used to be vastly superior to the crap they do today where they talk about the guys being drafted for about 10 seconds, then spend 15 minutes doing social just messages and repeatedly show the same idiots in the crowd over and over again. It’s absolutely terrible to watch, and it’s just programmed for women, which is why they show as little about football as possible.

  45. JGhotier Says:

    JOK gonna have a chip on his shoulder

  46. Medicated Pete Says:

    Licht not trading up yet b/c doesn’t want to give up 3rd rd pick would crimes against humanity smh

  47. Adrnagy Says:

    I like d. Mills. With this pick.

  48. Bucs Guy Says:

    JOK is gone. OK back to Oline and Dline

  49. Rod Munch Says:

    JOK played at 210lb? No wonder he fell, that’s is really really small for a LB, needs to be at least 225 to be considered ‘undersized’ – not sure what 210 makes you. But I never understand why teams don’t just switch things up if they have a special talent who doesn’t quite fit a mold.

    Anyways, he’s gone, so long.

  50. JimmyJack Says:

    If the Bucs are gonna trade up in the second this is probably their spot. Stayed glued to the edge of your seat yall.

  51. Capt.Tim Says:

    Alot of the second round players have extensive injury histories.

    Still believe the Bucs will draft a Center/Guard, and a DT tonight

  52. JimmyJack Says:

    I want a punt returner tonight!!!
    Never thought i would ever say that.

  53. Adrnagy Says:

    NO to trade up. No need.
    I can see licht drafting a safety or oline from Hobart univ

  54. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    Trade up and take your QB of the future, whether it is Mills, Mond or Trask. Let’s get us one!

  55. Adrnagy Says:

    Licht is diving into Humboldt State Lumberjacks

  56. JimmyJack Says:

    And whys everybody want a Center so much? Those take years to groom. Many times you see older vet guards convert to C to finish their careers.

    And i think most of the time when a college C is drafted they play more Guard then anything in the NFL.

  57. REDZONE BA Says:

    Our Bucs have amazing D. Would love to see JL pick up 6’4 FSU Safety Hamsah Nasirildeen as developmental player – who would benefit from Bowles coaching and give us some depth. Maybe day 3 pick up… great potential w our coaches.

  58. Bucs Guy Says:

    Bucs would have to give up a 4th rd pick to move up 10 slots in the 3rd. Don’t have the capital to trade up mutch in the 2nd

  59. USFBUC Says:

    I could see the Bucs taking either Trask or Mills.

    I also wouldn’t either of these guys for the secondary
    Hamsah Nisrildeen
    Elijah Moulden

  60. JGhotier Says:

    Want Carter! (Mills IF we go QB)

  61. Bucs Guy Says:

    Meinerz from Wisc-Whitewater can play G or C. I would love to see the Bucs take him. Another great D2 offensive line gem for Jason Licht.

  62. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Is Creed Humphrey the guy to replace Jensen next year?

  63. USFBUC Says:

    I don’t mind Trask or Mills

    I would love Nisrildeen or Moulden too

    We probably also need a little online depth

  64. unbelievable Says:

    If it’s someone in round 3 or the end of round 2, I’m guessing it would be Mills (or maybe Trask, but I hope not).

    Otherwise I think they might target Mond or Franks in the 4th. Maybe even Newman.

  65. JGhotier Says:

    Jimmy Jack,

    I want a Returner too, but better value to wait until Day 3. Avery Williams being that guy. Look up his tape/highkights and stats. He’s a Special Teams phenom. Tops in the nation in return TD’s and I think he even has like 4 blocked kicks to go along w/ it.

    Not only a late round replacement for Ryan Smith, also a DB, but offers elite return capabilities….and blocks kicks as the cherry on top. Look him up, you won’t be disappointed. Promise!

  66. SKBucsFan Says:

    The pick will be Creed Humphry. Depth to play next year. Am saying it now because for some reason I am being moderated???

  67. Allbuccedup Says:

    Trey Smith if available, excellent right guard backup left tackle two for the price of one. He may drop because of blood clot issues but seems to be under control maybe he will fall to 64.

  68. Bird Says:

    Meinerz is a mauler
    Ali marpet clone

  69. Rod Munch Says:

    If you want a returner with a day 2 pick, just trade for one. I don’t think there isn’t any dedicated returner in football you couldn’t get with a day 2 pick.

  70. Bucs Guy Says:

    Bucs ain’t picking a QB today.

  71. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    Mond is not lasting till the 4th. I only think there is one possible team to take a QB before us now. NO has the great Jay Miss, so maybe they won’t. Hopefully, no one trades up. I can’t imagine the Kittys got Darnold and will draft someone before us. We may have our pick of those three. I sure hope we believe in one of them! In Bud Licht I trust (now).

  72. Bucs Guy Says:

    Trey Smith will be 3rd rounder

  73. SKBucsFan Says:

    Or Joe Tryons Washington teammate Elijah Moldon. CB.

  74. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Wow the Rams smh lol

  75. ModHairKen Says:

    Michael Carter.

  76. JGhotier Says:

    ….Avery Williams (Day 3) – Boise State could be the closest thing we’ve had that resembles Clifton Smith (still hate Dante Wesley to this day). He’s the DB version though.

  77. Bucanero Says:

    Bolton or Cox please

  78. LUVMYBUCS Says:


    Maybe the kid from UCLA in the 4th or 5th

    Demetric Felton

  79. Rod Munch Says:

    149lbs? Is he a crackhead? How are you 149lb and get drafted? Warrick Dunn was like 187lb and was considered tiny.

  80. Bird Says:


    No kidding. These teams are dumb. They think receiver first for new qb when line is way bigger issue. They have no center
    Stafford weapon?

    Ask joe burrow how that worked out

  81. Doctor Stroud Says:

    I’ve never seen so many flaws with so many picks at this point in the draft, such as catastrophic injuries, sitting out a year, scheme mismatches, and weight issues.

  82. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    Damn, the Chiefs got Bolton that late. Great pick.

  83. Rod Munch Says:

    How is a guy named Nick Bolton not a white guy with long blonde hair?

  84. Bucs Guy Says:

    Looks like Quinn will be there at 64 unless KC takes him at 63. Carolina going OT, Saints go secondary, Bills go RB or possibly OT.

  85. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    I think any of these 3 QBs would be a great pick for us: Mills, Mond, Trask. I’m not as sold on Trask, but some of the guys that make their living doing this think he’ll be a good pro. Gabbert and Griffin are not the answer, I know that!
    Let’s get us somebody to study under the GOAT’S teet!

  86. TampaTown Says:

    Are the Saints gonna take a QB? Trask?

  87. JGhotier Says:

    Doctor Stroud,

    Definitely different!

  88. Doctor Stroud Says:

    If the Bucs draft a QB, I predict that it will be in round 3.

  89. Rod Munch Says:

    Doctor Stroud – if you can play, being undersized isn’t a huge issue anymore as you can play off the line and escape getting jammed – but less than 150lbs? He’d have to be Spud Webb quick and explosive to play at that weight, and even then I think it’s a long shot. Anywho, I know nothing about the guy, but 149lbs seems unbelievably tiny for the NFL.

  90. KnoxvilleBuc Says:

    Trey Smith will be a steal at anytime in the 2nd or 3rd. The kid can play. Mauler upfront and smart. Health issues are a concern and he needs to work on his footwork but he’s an option if he falls out of the 2nd for a trade up scenario. With Bolton gone I’d consider taking him but I’d look at the CB position. Love our 1st rd pick. Keep the foot on the pedal with the defense

  91. JimmyJack Says:

    Looks like some highly touted QBs are still hanging around. I would love to know if Bruce and co. has given a thumbs up to pulling the trigger on one of these kids.

  92. Rod Munch Says:

    Don’t draft a QB, just signed Rodgers when Brady retires. We’ve won two SB’s, both with old ‘washed up’ veterans. You don’t need a young QB when you’re not going to sign them to a 2nd contract anyways.

  93. Doctor Stroud Says:

    That might be a special teams pick. The “bad” Dexter Jackson was about 160 lbs, wasn’t he? He didn’t last very long.

  94. Rod Munch Says:

    The WR Dexter Jackson is listed at 182lbs, according to Google.

  95. Medicated Pete Says:

    Soo tired of waiting, I can’t wait till we pick #1 in all the rounds again

  96. JGhotier Says:

    Tutu Atwell – The Muggsy Bogues of the NFL

  97. Rod Munch Says:

    Perkins is still there, wasn’t expected to fall this far… doubling up at edge rusher? That would be something.

  98. Curse of Gruden Says:

    Rod, you speak the truth! Odds are against the Bucs signing a drafted QB to a second contract. Don’t waste the pick!

  99. JGhotier Says:

    Damn. Werner was one of my guys

  100. SKBucsFan Says:

    Does Licht turn down an linebacker from LSU? He can’t go wrong when when he picks them.

  101. Rod Munch Says:

    Cox, an LB from LSU…

    I’ll take it if they go that route, Licht has had good success with that combo.

  102. Bucs Guy Says:

    Carolina and Saints are so stupid. Carolina has protection issues, but not picking a OT. Friends of mine that are Panther fans all wanted an OT at #8 and here they still don’t have one going into the 3rd round. Saints don”t have CBs on their roster, but they haven’t picked one yet. Guess they’ll rely on undrafted free agents.

  103. SteveK Says:

    Hope we can get Meinerz from Wisconsin Whitewater, or another O or D trench player.

  104. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    Every one of the QBs are here for our picking! Buf, KC and GB ain’t picking a QB in the 2nd round. Come on Bud Licht! Draft our heir apparent right here!

  105. JimmyJack Says:

    Im not too thrilled with the Saints picks.

    They are stocking up hard on Defense to try to stop us. Over the years their D has owned us I admitt…….Playing the Saints is going to be our toughest games this year IMO…..and its because of their D.

    If we run into a D that can limit our offense……a explosive punt specalist could come in handy. Just sayin.

  106. JimmyJack Says:

    In good news both the Falcons and Pathers drafts are a joke. They will be 2 bad teams.

  107. unbelievable Says:

    LOL Rod.

    If Rodgers can stick around in GB for just 2 more seasons, I’d be more than happy to sign him when Brady is gone.

    But I’m not against drafting a QB and actually trying to develop one. I would prefer to wait til the 3rd or 4th though.

  108. FortMyersDave Says:

    Not long now. I just took a peek at one of the NOLA websites, they do not seem happy with the Saints last pick of the OSU LB, I guess someone else like a DB was on their wish list.

  109. Bucs Guy Says:

    Bills couldn’t run last year. Don’t pick up an OT or RB. Don’t know what they are doing.

  110. DaBux Says:

    I would hope we get a OL or DT here. But in the 3rd, whatever tickles BA and Yoda Licht’s fancy is fine with me.

  111. Rod Munch Says:

    unbelievable – that’s my plan, the Bucs should become the ‘retirement’ home for HOF QBs.

  112. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Take BPA and then trade up in the 3rd to get your QB if you want a QB.

  113. Bucs Guy Says:

    No WR for Aaron Rodgers. He’ll be the next Bucs QB after Brady.

  114. Doctor Stroud Says:

    On the clock!

  115. DaBux Says:

    Let’s hope KC goes defense. I want Quinn Meinerz..he’s got that Wirfs big and nasty thing.

  116. unbelievable Says:

    @Dewey that’s what I’m saying.

  117. Oxycondoms Says:

    Who does chris simms have going to us?

  118. USFBUC Says:

    Bucs could trade back here too if their target was a QB

  119. JimmyJack Says:

    No fullbacks taken yet!!! Go get em Bucs!!

  120. Dewey Selmon Says:

    SOB. Creed was my guy lol

  121. DaBux Says:

    BucsGuy, you are spot on, LOL.

    From TB12 to AR12….

  122. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    Sonofabitch! Chiefs are getting better.

  123. unbelievable Says:

    Damn I liked Humphrey

  124. I CARE NOW Says:


  125. JimmyJack Says:

    Double down. Get a Edge!!!

  126. Capt.Tim Says:

    Damn it.
    I really think the Bucs were eyeing this center!

  127. Winny Testaverde Says:

    The double center double cross right before the Bucs!

  128. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    Dewey, I’m ok with your take there. Maybe get us that OL from the small school here.

  129. FrankPillow Says:

    Get me the kid from Wisc Whitewater!!! Pls.

  130. Bucs Guy Says:

    With Humphrey gone, I’m still hoping for Quinn.

  131. Rod Munch Says:

    Well, nevermind. I’m not mad about it or anything, just not what I’d do. But hey, longterm, you got your guy, and it’s not piece of garbage Gabbert.

  132. geno711 Says:


  133. Doctor Stroud Says:

    The title belt!

  134. Adrnagy Says:

    Mayfield ?

  135. geno711 Says:


  136. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Every year they go to a commercial during our pick.

  137. SteveK Says:

    Meinerz or Assai please!

  138. geno711 Says:

    Some fans got their pick.

  139. Bucs Guy Says:

    If they go Edge it should be the guy from TX

  140. Doctor Stroud Says:

    A run on Centers?

  141. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Hey Alvin. good to hear from you!

  142. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    Took no time. Bud Licht and the boys knew who they wanted.

  143. Rod Munch Says:

    Not sure why the Bucs get so high on Florida players when they generally bust – I think they got some Gator homers in the scouting department. Hopefully they’re right this time.

  144. Jerry R Jones Says:

    Yeah, Trask.

  145. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    Dewey, I know the joints are rolled and the beer is cold!

  146. BradyBucs Says:

    I could see Trask or Mills here.

  147. Buc50 Says:

    It’s Trask

  148. DoooshLaRue Says:


    So triggered by a QB in the 2nd round.

    Anywho…….. on to the 3rd round.
    Let’s trade up and pick twice and be done.

  149. Rod Munch Says:

    “No FBS quarterback had more 20-plus-yard completions (70) in 2020. However, he doesn’t have the arm strength to drive the ball, and some of his passes hang in the air.”

    Sounds like Danny Warfield.

  150. Pa Privateer Says:

    wow what lag on NFL, JBF already posted Trask

  151. geno711 Says:

    Chomp – Chomp – Chomp

  152. JGhotier Says:

    He totally does remind me of Brad Johnson now that I think about it 🤯 I can’t take credit for that comparison

  153. Buc4evr Says:


  154. Bucs Guy Says:

    How stupid can we be!!!!

  155. JGhotier Says:

    Jimmie Giles killed it too!

  156. Wesley Says:


  157. Buc4evr Says:

    Terrible pick. Lol

  158. Doctor Stroud Says:


  159. SKBucsFan Says:

    Wasted pick. Uggggh.

  160. Adrnagy Says:


  161. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    And there ya go! I think Brady is gonna teach this kid how to be a QB.

  162. Pa Privateer Says:

    Not sold on Task yet. But he will sit for 1-2 years and learn

  163. DBS Says:

    So much for Bucs Guy.. And DinggleBerry is having a meltdown!!

  164. Winny Testaverde Says:

    The one way to piss Brady off…and they do it. Well played.

  165. JGhotier Says:

    Preferred pick, but good pick and the best possible situation you could ask for. Smart good kid. X’s and O’s retention and grasp are legit

  166. DaBux Says:

    WOW! A little high for him, but they must have a hunch that someone else was going to grab him.

  167. unbelievable Says:


  168. FrankPillow Says:

    As I fear and previously called…Trask train.

  169. Capt.Tim Says:

    Too bad. Wasted pick.

  170. Buc4evr Says:

    I was looking for a OG or even a DT or DE. But not trask….ugh. Wasted pick like picking a kicker in the second round. Lol.

  171. Richard Dickson Says:

    Yeah, drafting a QB with the last pick of the 2nd round is going to piss Brady off….

  172. Rod Munch Says:

    JGhotier – I’ll take Brad Johnson, he was good enough to win a SB … with an all-great defense.

  173. Buc You Says:

    Called it!!!

  174. Scott Says:

    career backup wastred pick licht

  175. DaBux Says:

    Imagine being this kid knowing you have no pressure and you get to learn how to be a pro from the GOAT.

    YUGE advantage for his future.

  176. unbelievable Says:

    Jameis 2.0 is my concern with Trask.

    Hopefully he can learn behind Brady and clean up the turnovers.

  177. Adrnagy Says:

    It’s right to pick QB. This is BA last year. Let’s see the QB whisperer develop trask into not trash.

  178. Pete I Says:

    Meh. Average arm. Stanford QB make turn out a better pro.

  179. Scott Says:

    andre cisco there you go jason wake up

  180. SKBucsFan Says:

    Well enjoy the Brady years because the dream of enticing proven QB’s to come to sunny Florida later in their careers is over. Be prepared for years of mediocrity.
    I know we don’t NEED anyone, but building your roster attracts good free agents.
    I hope I am wrong, but I doubt it.

  181. Curse of Gruden Says:

    What a waist. Trask would be available at our 3rd pick. Does he also kick field goals?

  182. CocoaBeachBuc Says:

    Rod Munch, I going to say what you really know already. They drag out announcing the pick so there is more advertising 💰

  183. Buc4evr Says:

    Yep career backup. Can’t perform under pressure. Never pick a QB from UF and I’m a gator fan.

  184. Bucsfan81 Says:

    No pick is as bad as when we took a kicker in the second round. I almost broke my tv during that draft..

  185. Bucs Guy Says:

    Absolutely bad pick JL. Thought you got over your poor 2nd round pick problem a few years ago. Not BPA, not a need. Not good depth. Wasted pick IMO. Should have picked someone who could play some in 2021.

  186. unbelievable Says:

    I just think we could have found guys with just as good of arm strength and physical traits, and better upside with less penchant for interceptions, in round 3 or 4.

  187. Scott Says:

    andre cisco is jamaaal adams we had bunch of safety injuries in nfc title game winfield injury prone in college

  188. BucG8R Says:

    43 TD to 8 INT.. Are we talking about the same guy? He may have problems, but INTs aren’t it.

  189. Capt.Tim Says:

    Trask is a weak armed, less creative version of Ryan Griffin.
    If He is ever our starting QB, something has gone horribly, Horribly wrong.
    This is a Vernon Hargreaves pick.

  190. TampaTown Says:

    WooHoo!!! Love it!!! No way Brady wasn’t consulted you morons

  191. Scott Says:

    lets win this year if brady hurt kiss season goodbye

  192. Elita Vita Says:

    Dunno about the Trask pick…. had enough of the the roller coaster ride know as Jameis Winston. Trask needs to protect the ball much better and limit fumbles and interceptions…..why pick him over Miller?????

  193. Buc4evr Says:

    Ossai would have been a better pick.

  194. Scott Says:

    first round iffy pick second round waste

  195. Winny Testaverde Says:

    Really weak of me to bellyache following a Super Bowl win…BUT looks like the Bucs are back to bustin’ 2nd rounders after nailing Winfield Jr. last year.

  196. DaBux Says:

    Gang, I hate the Gators as much as any Cane fan can, but Trask has that ‘it’ factor which may translate to the NFL. The comparisons to Jameis are bunk. Trask is VERY accurate which is a trait that other QBs can not learn nor translate at a higher level. Without the pressure to start, he’s got a chance to step up his game and get even better.

    Besides, did we really want Bbbbbbbblaine back for $5 million+ per year again?

  197. Jerry Says:

    For those saying that QB wasn’t a need….

    We have a 44 year old starting QB, and a career 3rd stringer on the roster right now. We don’t have much money to pay a veteran backup to ride the pine.

    Yes…..QB was a need.

  198. Doctor Stroud Says:

    Licht probably anticipated a run on QBs, which is what is happening.

  199. DaBux Says:

    Exactly @Jerry. 100% Spot on.

  200. JimmyJack Says:

    I just flipped my lid, bustin, bustin.

    We got a Gator. A Gator QB!!!

    This is the most fun I gad as a Bucs fan since their last game!!!!

    This isnt football this is fantasy.


  201. Scott Says:

    cisco will be all pro in nfl at some point we could have drafted the center from wisconsin whitewater-resign all 22 starters injuries happen no depth jason

  202. BoricuaBucFan4life Says:

    This will go down as his worst pick up there with Hargreaves and Aguyao. Middle round talent at best

  203. Bucs Guy Says:

    Trask, Mond and Mills at QB. We had the first pick, but took the worst of the three.

  204. DaBux Says:

    The Texans just got their starting QB. He’s going to get murderized with that horrid OL and team.

  205. Scott Says:

    screw the gators i want to win another superbowl

  206. Scott Says:

    trask bust

  207. JimmyJack Says:

    The cheery on top with our last pick is the Bucs trade up bigtime for a dynamic splash playmaker. Get me that speedy WR that yall wanted.

  208. BucG8R Says:

    If you think Trask has an INT problem, you clearly only watched one game. The guy is extremely accurate.
    He’s just a tree, and doesn’t have a huge power arm. He does have decent touch on deepish balls though. But not a huge zip in close range

  209. DaBux Says:

    @BucsGuy, as a weekend investor, trust me, Mills is not good. He has Winstonitis aka, the problem of locking his eyes on to one receiver then throwing a pick…in the horrid no-defense Pac-12.

  210. JGhotier Says:

    Rod Munch,

    I agree. I wasn’t stating my opinion one way or the other. One of the analysts made that comparison on air and I was reacting to it. It’s actually a great comparison. I had to give them credit. Wish I had thought of it….and am disappointed I never did!

  211. Kentucky Buc Says:

    Not sure how to feel about that.

  212. JimmyJack Says:

    Trask will win a ring with Bradys team(Gronk will give us one extra year). It will be epic!!!

  213. DoooshLaRue Says:

    Why the hell does Perkins keep sliding?

  214. Scott Says:

    jensen costs to much next year suh gone next year stinnie and kappa got to get paid safeties and cb always getting hurt and he drafts kyle trask no depth on this team except wr

  215. DaBux Says:

    @JimmyJack how in the world can we win another ring with Cheatin’ Urban Meyer using Tebow at TE? LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

  216. DaBux Says:

    Perkins is sliding due to short wingspan and easy to block one on one. Like Gmac.

  217. SKBucsFan Says:

    Anybody else prefer Licht picked a kicker with the 64th instead?

  218. gp Says:

    2nd round pick, low cost, two years to learn behind the goat….
    Here’s your chance son, let’s see what you can do with it!

  219. DaBux Says:

    Imagine being Trask and getting a call from Lefty, BA, then the GOAT.

    Then Brady telling him to meet him at a high school in June to learn the playbook.

  220. USFBUC Says:


    68.9% completion
    4283 yards
    43 tds
    8 ints
    5 fumbles
    3 lost fumbles
    180 rating

    Mills – played way less games in 2020
    66% completion
    7 tds
    3 ints
    140 rating

  221. Bucs Guy Says:

    MJ Stewart, Noah Spence, Roberto Aguayo, Austin Sefaria Jenkins. All past 2nd round picks by JL. I’ll give him a pass on Justin Evans due to injuries. Rojo is just OK. Carlton Davis, SMB and Winfield are all good picks. Thought JL turned the corner on good 2nd round picks and then he does this.

  222. USFBUC Says:

    Stats wise Trask was basically a carbon copy of Brady’s stats in 2020

  223. Bucs Guy Says:

    Didn’t want a QB at all. Need Oline and CB.

  224. JimmyJack Says:

    I cant wait to see Trask throw his first pass as a Buc in August. Ill never understand why some fans hate August football. It just got really great imo.

    They should just call for a biscuit on that first play. Get Trask used to the new expectation.

  225. MadMax Says:

    I’ll pull for Trask, but that was a horrible waste of a 2nd, wtf?….oh well

  226. Scott Says:

    no depth no superbowl injuries happen we will get our share trask wont even beat out ryan griffin

  227. SKBucsFan Says:

    Yep. Bucs Guy. 1 out of 8 is something I guess . This combined with his 50% on first rounders makes me wonder how he won a superbowl.
    Oh wait I know….#12 was the quarterback.

  228. USFBUC Says:

    Jensen will restructure I bet so no worries about his contract

  229. JimmyJack Says:

    Scott you cant get rid of Bradys C. Not unless you have a big name in mind….or somebody Beady is comfortable with. We might not be able to afford to lose Jensen.

  230. MadMax Says:

    Im not drunk yet but close, is Darius Stills, still on our dmn board? Unreal!

  231. JimmyJack Says:

    Scitt its pretty obvisous we took Trask to be our backup. Backup players are depth so your compliment make little sense

  232. Bucs Guy Says:

    I would like to see the Bucs trade this year’s 4th and 5th, along with next year’s 4th to get a 2nd 3rd rounder somewhere late.

  233. FortMyersDave Says:

    DaBux, thanks for the info on OU Perkins, I was like DooshLaRue, wondering why he is still on the board but I was looking tat the BSPN one and simply thought this was Kiper over-rating someone.

  234. Adrnagy Says:

    Let’s grab DT Nixon.

  235. DaBux Says:

    No prob FtMyersDave. The problem with some of these players are they only show the splash video plays. But Perkins was blown off the line by average OL and gave up big yardage in run plays. Just like Gmac.

  236. DaBux Says:

    The Aints are having a disastrous draft.

    And I love it.

  237. JimmyJack Says:

    New Orleans has taken 2 DBs. And all defense. They are gunning for us.

  238. FortMyersDave Says:

    @ Bucs Guy That would be nice, could get a comp pick for a 4th this year and next. BTW, how the heck do Dallas and the Pats always get third round comp picks every year???? I’d love to see the actual formula they use to decide who gets the picks and why the Bucs always seem to be on the wrong side of the cut off (like getting the first 4th round comp pick for Kwon instead of a third….

  239. JGhotier Says:

    Since there is no point in judging players or a Draft class before they gave even played a SINGLE game in the NFL…never mind a couple years to truly tell, I will say that we are building depth like a MOFO!

    (When you bring back every starter on a Super Bowl team that dominated the biggest game of the year versus the “best” team in the league, that’s what you do and they are doing it at some of the most important positions on the football field)

    Have to see if it works out, but it’s super smart strategy!

  240. Bucs Guy Says:

    People on this site are much nicer than some others. No love out there for the Trask pick.

  241. Bucs Guy Says:

    Saints took DE, not DB. They need DBs.

  242. MadMax Says:

    Nixon or Stills PLEASE!!!!! MY GOSH!

  243. JimmyJack Says:

    Bucs Guy thanks. The Saints did take a DB in the first, right? They dont seem to be too bad off with secondary. Lattimore can still take our best WR out of the game.

  244. DaBux Says:

    Carter, Molden, or Spencer Brown. Any of those players is worth a shot.

  245. DaBux Says:

    Lattimore can take one receiver out, but we have 4 or 5 when Bernard is on the field. Plus Lattimore can’t take out the 3 TE set we’ll be running.

  246. Bucs Guy Says:

    WR for the Packers!! It only took 3 rds for them to figure it out

  247. DaBux Says:

    Watching Packers and Aints fan suffer is just so much fun.

  248. JGhotier Says:

    His arm is not week like some are saying. It’s just average. Not the tightest of spirals and wobbles slightly at times. For his size, you’d think he’d throw it harder though, but it’s not weak.

    Watch the flea flicker play against Arkansas. The RB laterals the ball back to Trask horribly, it hits the grass, Trask picks it up from the field, doesn’t have time to set his feet, throwing motion or step into the throw due to a blitzing defender breathing down his neck. But he is falling backwards away and to the side when he launches it downfield…and it goes 55-60 yards downfield for a completion.

    Their are plenty of great QB’s who didn’t have a cannon or average arm and their are plenty who did have a strong arm. He can make the throws necessary. It’s average, not terrible. It’s not an end all be all. His stats show it didn’t come close to end all. Florida and SEC is no joke either as we all know.

    I personally wish he threw a tighter spiral and more consistent w/o the wobbly balls as C often, but that’s just my preference. Doesn’t mean this kid’s arm is weak or sucks though. He’s plenty able. His intangibles, football smarts and retention are too-shelf. I’m an FSU fan btw. To get him at #64 (one from being able to say 3rd round instead of 2nd) is just fine.

    He’s got potential and hasn’t even played that many games in his career. His stats last year are nothing to dismiss or try to qualify. He had a good season….especially for someone w/ hardly any experience, playing at a storied pressure packed CFB school/program and in the best conference there is, the NFL of the NCAA.

    He couldn’t be in a better situation either. Dude hasn’t even played his 1st game or season yet in the NFL.

  249. DaBux Says:


    And I despise the Gators.

  250. Rod Munch Says:

    I was hoping Green would drop to us.

  251. Bucs Guy Says:

    Can’t believe both guys I wanted in the 2nd are still available with only 6 picks in front the Bucs. Quinn G/C or Melifonwu CB.

  252. Rod Munch Says:

    JGhotier – I pulled up highlights from the Arkansas vs UF game highlights, and I must say I like that film a lot better than his film vs Bama. On that flea flicker, to me, it wasn’t that great of a play, it floated a bit too much, BUT watching the plays before that, I saw more of an NFL arm. I had watched a Bama vs UF highlights, and in that one they were all touch passes and he didn’t drive the ball at all, looked pretty weak to my eye, but this this Arkansas game gives me a lot more hope. I’ll have to watch more stuff, but just seeing some 20-30 passes with velocity is what I’d want to see, those are the plays you have to be able to make in the NFL. It’s not throwing it 50 yards that matter, it needs to get there quickly in the NFL.

  253. Rod Munch Says:

    Ronnie Perkins is still available? Wow. I saw some mocks with the Bucs trading back a few spots in the 1st, to the top of the 2nd, and taking him.

  254. Rod Munch Says:

    Bucs Guy – Quinn G/C in the 2nd and Trask in the 3rd, and I think everyone is happy. If they can still get Quinn, then no one should care about the order. I’ll take it.

  255. SKBucsFan Says:

    I sound like a broken record but after a 1st or 2nd round pick each year I repeat the following:
    Alright Licht. Time to redeem yourself!

  256. SKBucsFan Says:

    Right Rod. Quinn in the 3rd would redeem the Trask pick

  257. SKBucsFan Says:

    At this point anyone but an RB would be a win.

  258. JimmyJack Says:

    No matter what you say or think the Bucs Drafting KYLE TRASK is freaking exciting!!

    It gives us a lot to root for and talk about.

    And plus we just drafted a god darn Gator QB. CHOMP CHOMP CHOMPPPPP!!

  259. Joe Says:

    Alright Licht. Time to redeem yourself!

    Damn, the dude just built a Super Bowl-winner!

    Tough crowd.

  260. JimmyJack Says:

    We just drafted rookie QB. I say draft rookie WR to grow with him. They can be roomies in Charlotte.

  261. SKBucsFan Says:

    Joe. A gm is only as good as his last pick. Lol

  262. JimmyJack Says:

    Giles has been the best presenter of the enitre drafte BTW.

  263. Bucs Guy Says:

    I’m good with that. T/G fills the need for depth.

  264. geno711 Says:

    Bucs Pick is in.

    The pick is Tackle Hainsey

  265. DoooshLaRue Says:

    Maybe we have our new RT?

  266. geno711 Says:

    Notre Dame.
    can probably play guard too

  267. JimmyJack Says:

    I know nothing about college football but I’m not too stupid to know that a lineman from Notre Dame is a great bet

  268. Adrnagy Says:

    I like.

  269. DaBux Says:

    I like this pick. No problem at all. More OL depth wins every time.

  270. JimmyJack Says:


  271. Bar10jim Says:

    We drafted a RT last year.

    This looks like depth

  272. Curse of Gruden Says:


  273. DaBux Says:

    @Doosh, nope, LG/RG. He’s more of an inside OL. Too slow at OT but great upper body strength. One year with our coaches and we’ve got an affordable backup.

  274. Bucs Guy Says:

    Now we need CB depth.

  275. FortMyersDave Says:

    I am okay with it. Depth on the OL always a good thing!

  276. JGhotier Says:

    Rod Munch,

    I can get on board w/ that assessment of yours. I do disagree about the flea flicker play, but tomatoes/tomotoes!

    Also, remember he was dealing w/ multiple hampering injuries (a whole other topic of discussion) towards the end of the year and his play was reflective and indicative of that.

    He’s only going to get better and learn more and more over time. Only 12-13 something games of experience and playing time. So why’ll not amazing right now (but definitely doesn’t suck in the least) he should only learn, get better and go up from here (which is encouraging). And who and what better regime and SB Champs to do it under. The intangibles and smarts are a great foundation and impressive.

    I personally like the size too, but again that’s just preference.

    I’m a Bucs fan so I don’t like typing this, just thought A LOT of the comments on or regarding him (and this soon when he hasn’t even suited up for us yet, nevermind a season or two) were off-base, unaware, unfair, and in some cases not accurate).

    Sucks he wasn’t picked literally ONE pick later so we could dismiss the people saying “w/a 2nd rounder”. It’s one pick away from saying 3rd round. It’s why I think it’s better to judge the draft value by the pick # and not round. Pick #64 to get him is nothing egregious IMO. It’s just about the right draft slot for him (and you saw that w/ Mills and Mond coming off the board just minutes/picks later).

  277. Rod Munch Says:

    You absolutely can not fault Licht on his OL picks. It’s not who I thought they’d take, but Licht has done an amazing job with the OL picks, so no one should question this one. Also, as a former tackle, who is going to play inside, he gives you some depth at different positions, which is a positive.

    I don’t know enough to say anything else about him, but, again Licht has proven he knows more about the OL prospects than any websites or even other NFL teams, so no one should be whining about this.

  278. JGhotier Says:

    Can never go wrong w/ trenches picks ANY Draft. Depth. And usually Notre Dame OL pan out more than most and are usually more developed and NFL ready.

    I really wanted Carter there, but I like that pick. Trenches baby!

  279. JGhotier Says:

    Shoutout Giles. He’s been 🔥 tonight. Proud Bucs and Jimmie Giles fan

  280. Rod Munch Says:

    JGhotier – the first scouting reports on saw on Trask were pretty negative, at least in terms of what you’d want for a deep ball offense. I do agree with you in that if he’s a 3rd round pick, people are going to be dramatically less harsh on judging him, but the run of QBs started right after this pick, so he went where he should have went. If the NFL’s scouting report is accurate, and his pro-comp is Brad Johnson, I’ll take that!

    Will be interesting to watch more film on him.

  281. JGhotier Says:

    Rod Munch,

    Definitely. And should be fun and interesting for sure.

  282. SKBucsFan Says:

    I like the pick. Depth at the OG position is perfect. Can draft and OT next year and find a centre free agent if necessary.

  283. JGhotier Says:

    If Jason “I know my small school O-Lineman” Licht didn’t find enough value in Meinerz to take him over O-Lineman University – Notre Dame’s Hainsey, I think I’m gonna take the former Nebraska O-Lineman’s opinion on that.

  284. JGhotier Says:

    Rod Munch,

    Arians just mentioned the comeback game against Georgia to watch as one to watch. Might have to hang my FSU hat up for a couple hours and check that game out tonight.