Ex-Bucs QB Trolls Bucs Fans
April 27th, 2021
Why tease Bucs fans?
Joe thinks the world of former Bucs quarterback Chris Simms.
Simms gave an important body part playing for this franchise. And he has turned into one of the better deep-thinkers when it comes to football analysis. Joe has heard NFL general managers give Simms props for his savvy if not sometimes unorthodox insight when it comes to breaking down quarterbacks.
But now Simms has gone too far. What he did this morning with Bucs fans was downright ornery.
Joe doesn’t know Simms well (we’ve met a couple of times) so Joe doesn’t believe Simms is being mean here. He comes across as a sincere guy. But man, after reading the NBC Sports/Peacock football analyst put out his final 2021 mock draft, Joe both laughed and scratched his head.
In his final mock, Simms has the Bucs — at No. 32; not in a trade-up — selecting Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields.
Really.
Simms explains on his podcast, “Unbuttoned.”
“Bucs have everything,” Simms began. “There is no need on their football team.”
Simms was adamant that he didn’t do this to spite Fields or Bucs fans. It’s just the way his mock draft unfolded when he factored in team needs, general managers’ tendencies, and his evaluation of players.
“I want to be right,” Simms said. “I tried to use logic. … As I tried to do this fair, yeah, you heard as we tried to talk organically about the teams. … As you can tell, I can see this happening. And if [Fields] is there, [the Bucs] are taking him.
“[The Bucs] are going to go, ‘This is perfect for [Fields]. Learn from Tom Brady.’ You know, get some of the polish? Brady will be able to teach him some of the mechanical stuff.
“Oh, and then Brady wants to retire? ‘Great, we’ve got our guy. He can take off.'”
Now Joe understands that Simms has been catching hell from folks because he is not as high on Fields as #DraftTwitter and some other folks in #DraftMedia. Simms seems down on Fields’ mechanics.
He’s not alone. Former coffee fetcher for Bill Walsh, Al Davis and Bill Belicheat, former Browns general manager Michael Lombardi, has for weeks been preaching on his podcast, “GM Shuffle,” that observers outside NFL circles are way overrating Fields and that Fields’ mechanics are a mess.
Lombardi even added that Fields’ second-pro day did him no favors as his mechanics were worse there than in his first pro day. And Lombardi has been taking heat saying for weeks that Fields is not a fit for Kyle Shanahan and the 49ers at No. 3.
We shall see how this all plays out in a couple of days. But Joe thinks this is first-class trolling to suggest Fields will still be on the board at No. 32.
If Fields is still available at No. 32, that tells Joe someone found video of Fields using a bong mask.
April 27th, 2021 at 12:05 pm
There is no way, Fields is there at 32, unless a Warren Sapp moment at the draft happens, just some kind of craziness. GO BUCS!!!!
April 27th, 2021 at 12:09 pm
If we’re to believe that BA’s protégée BL is being groomed to take over as HC, as many on here have suggested, then this take isn’t really off-base is it?
April 27th, 2021 at 12:11 pm
April Fools?
April 27th, 2021 at 12:13 pm
I don’t think Fields makes it to 32 however.
Maybe another QB?
April 27th, 2021 at 12:14 pm
Bad take. Playing style doesn’t fit what Arians likes in a QB.
April 27th, 2021 at 12:15 pm
I like Simms, but I think he’s just spitballing here.
April 27th, 2021 at 12:17 pm
chris s has been wrong on most of Bucs predictions. it means nothing what he thinks…the guy from a great team mate, has gone rouge when it comes to bucs.
He never was great, not even good… but he lost his spleen for us…. so we gave him slack last year when he was predicting Bucs NOT to make play offs…well we done with him. and BTW who said we like Fields…. it brings me the bad days back, when we got JW…o boy..🤮
April 27th, 2021 at 12:18 pm
He & Pat McAfee have both become a joke at the same time
April 27th, 2021 at 12:22 pm
No thanks.
April 27th, 2021 at 12:29 pm
I have absolutely no problem with this.
April 27th, 2021 at 12:33 pm
will teams be that dumb to let fields drop?…lol…
GO BUCS!!!!
April 27th, 2021 at 12:34 pm
There’s a reason they call them ‘mock drafts’
April 27th, 2021 at 12:35 pm
That’s not a crazy thought.
Would Arians really hand over the keys to Leftwich with no quarterback?
(Then again, the last time Leftwich attempted to groom a young quarterback… Josh Rosen. 😲)
April 27th, 2021 at 12:35 pm
I think in the NFL, Fields will get happy feet and try to run it more than he throws it ala Cam Newton
April 27th, 2021 at 12:39 pm
All lives:
We all like to make fun of Cam Newton, Joe included. We tend to forget that Newton once was the NFL MVP. So claiming that Fields will be the next Cam Newton isn’t really such an awful thing is it?
April 27th, 2021 at 12:43 pm
@Joe
No not at all, he just doesn’t fit BA’s prototypical QB
April 27th, 2021 at 12:44 pm
I’m not as high on this guy as everyone else, it appears. It could be my disdain for Ohio State, I don’t know!
Somebody give the “elevator speech” as to why we should draft this guy at #32, if he’s there. Please convince me.
April 27th, 2021 at 12:45 pm
Davis Mills is going to have a better career. Sleeper QB. Would be happy to have him (not at 32).
April 27th, 2021 at 12:47 pm
LOL, there is NO WAY Justin Fields drops to us, no way!
He will be long gone, maybe even to the Patriots ?
But, there will be some pass rushers and linebackers that will fall to us 🙂
April 27th, 2021 at 12:47 pm
Where’s our JBF draft gurus at?! LUV? Bonzai?
April 27th, 2021 at 12:48 pm
Always remember shaking his hand in line with his family at Dairy Joy in South Tampa. I told him I was a diehard Longhorn fan also and that gave him a nice smile.
April 27th, 2021 at 12:51 pm
None of the QBs in this draft will do much in the NFL. Fields included.
April 27th, 2021 at 12:52 pm
If Fields makes it to 32 we should pass like the other 30 teams did (Jax gets the exception for Lawrence)…..
Something would be dreadfully wrong with Fields to drop that far.
April 27th, 2021 at 12:56 pm
You would think if he’s there at 30,31, or 32, someone will trade up to get him.
April 27th, 2021 at 12:57 pm
too much like Cam. TB is a surgeon, this guy will use his legs.
April 27th, 2021 at 1:04 pm
Maybe Licht feels like he had his job wrapped up another ten years and takes a qb. He sure wouldn’t make Brady happy tho so i cant see it. Lets not forget how ornery Brady got after they took Jimmy G. Assistant gm Tommy says not this year. So maybe next, we’ll see what Tommy says
April 27th, 2021 at 1:34 pm
I agree with @ClodHopper, if he’s there in the latter part of the draft someone is trading up to get him.
April 27th, 2021 at 1:35 pm
Folks…the LV SB is HISTORY !
Get your collective heads out of the past or however Satchel Paige said it.
The franchise and all riding on it is one drop back or TB stepping off the swim platform of his shinny yacht from being in full on panic mode.
Personally I hope we can add explosive players to the rB or WR positions or both…we have neither
April 27th, 2021 at 1:53 pm
IT’S POSSIBLE …
No one thought Lamar Jackson would fall to 32. If the Ravens hadn’t traded up he would have fallen into Round 2.
No one thought Drew Brees would fall out of the first round. He had set nearly every Big 10 record and yet he was the 33 pick.
If Fields falls to the Bucs … Take him. This is an easy decision.
April 27th, 2021 at 2:01 pm
About as realistic as most mock drafts. After about 5 picks…it’s a guessing game. Currently, there are almost 300,000,000 draft experts in the US alone (some people don’t like football).
April 27th, 2021 at 2:02 pm
I’m sorry but Fields does not fit Arian’s or Leftwich offense philosophy at all. Completely different style of quarterbacking. I think Trask would fit better than Fields just on what our offense is based.
April 27th, 2021 at 2:03 pm
Did Simms lose his spline, or his brain? I’m not high on fields. The same argument was made for drafting Haskins. However, with the rookie wage scale no way Fields makes it to 32. Simms is looking a bit foolish with this mock.
April 27th, 2021 at 2:04 pm
Fields is a rookie who needs some polish is all. Brady would snap him into form in no time. That being said, there is no way the kid will be at 32. Chris Simms is a horrible analyst who thinks he is right. Good luck in this pile of red hot poo 💩 coming true.
April 27th, 2021 at 2:04 pm
Simms and Lombardi, both Belichek bobos, are downplaying Fields, who just happens to be linked to the Pats. Coincidence? I think not
April 27th, 2021 at 2:05 pm
he got you to write a story about him with these shennanies he’s talking…
that’s all that counts…
sims 1 joe 0 🙂
April 27th, 2021 at 2:06 pm
I wonder if his QB rankings specifically are influenced in any way by his Dad’s opinions on the QB class, or if this is completely his own opinion and evaluations…
You know 2 former QB’s that are father and son discuss Quarterbacks. Just don’t know to what extent.
Speaking of Phil Simms, I’m pretty sure he has a new show coming out about QB’s/Football with Steve Beuerlein and Adam Schein that’ll be on Monday nights on NBC
April 27th, 2021 at 2:09 pm
The 49ers will take Fields, all this BSPN saying the niners are looking to pick Jones or Lance ( per Adam Shi_zer) is just smokescreen
April 27th, 2021 at 2:20 pm
When I saw Simms mock draft, at first I was against the Buc’s taking the 5th to 7th best QB in the draft in Justin Fields.
My thoughts were not to waste a pick on a guy that just shows the least potential of quickly dissecting what the defense is going to do when he gets to the line of scrimmage. You would just have to dumb it down from what Brady is doing every day.
Then I thought, well if Tysom Hill can be in for 10 plays a game then we can give Fields 10 plays a game too by the end of the season. Can you see in the playoffs, a team having to prepare for Brady and then we bring in Fields for a RPO – just a simple one read and then he takes off if it is not there. Wow, just the ability to stress a defense.
I do not think he will be a great 15 year quarterback but if the potential is about winning one of the next two (2) seasons. His 10 plays a game could be every bit as exciting as having drafted Pitts and trying to get 10 balls to him in a game.
Allbuccedup. BSPN is the biggest pushers of San Fran taking Fields – more than any other media outlet. I think you have it mixed up.
April 27th, 2021 at 2:30 pm
@Tampabaybucfan Says:
“If Fields makes it to 32 we should pass like the other 30 teams did …..”…
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excellent logic…
April 27th, 2021 at 2:36 pm
@geno711
Another thing to consider and add to your comment above with the San Fran/Fields stuff too, is the fact that Chris Simms and Kyle Shanahan are really tight and super good friends, so for Simms to have him fall that far and past San Fran by a mile is VERY interesting
April 27th, 2021 at 2:39 pm
IE…Click Bait.
Simms is just throwing fodder to the masses with Fields falling to TB @ #32.
NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
April 27th, 2021 at 2:41 pm
I don’t see Fields falling this far either. I do like the kid from Stanford and he should be had in a later round.
April 27th, 2021 at 2:43 pm
I’m a huge fan of Simms. I’ve heard him so many times say what a great football city Tampa is, how great the fans are, and how much he loved being in Tampa.
April 27th, 2021 at 2:54 pm
We are not taking a QB unless Brady ok’s it. He won’t ok Fields.
April 27th, 2021 at 2:55 pm
We don’t need to get a QB early in this soft QB draft for Tom to already start polishing. He’s got two more years left and who knows, might be able to play after that. Let Licht and GOAT scout a backup in the sixth round that will eventually light it up in the till he’s 44+ years old. When Tom does stop playing, he might take a bit off (?) but I don’t think he can walk away from the game. An HC or OC or QB coach or Licht’s right hand man in the front office. Think the Glazers would be very interested and have a better chance than Bob Kraft in that situation. Would be sweet.
April 27th, 2021 at 3:08 pm
@Medicated Pete.
I like your name. And based upon your name maybe you know this.
As I read up on taking antiepileptic medications, it seems they are made to slow cognition. This is by nature of the medication to actually stop brain activity because that is the best known way to control epilepsy.
Is this something you can talk about personally (just based upon your name)?
So if Tom Brady says give me 2.3 seconds of blocking but Fields needs many times 3.3 or 3.5 seconds to make decisions, isn’t this something that will concern any NFL GM. Go look back at Field’s pro day tapes. There is a coach that is rushing him. About 10 times the coach gets to Fields and he just did not react. Instead Fields acted like he was not there and just took his time still throwing the ball. It concerned me when I saw the tape. No other QB in his pro days ignored that “fake” rush like Fields did.
April 27th, 2021 at 3:12 pm
I have no interest in another QB with an elongated wind-up and release. Fields will have the same struggles throwing comebacks and outs that Winston used to get picked off every game.
NFL windows are too small for guys that throw like this.
April 27th, 2021 at 3:18 pm
I was at that Panthers game when Simms was crushed!
April 27th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
most of these highly touted college qb’s just turn into big scrubs in the nfl…
these guys are hyped for many reasons – mostly money…they carry the draft, draft hype, sell tickets for bad nfl teams early on, etc etc..
and then their failures and busts are highly noted afterward to the point where they’re pumping gas out their ass…
reality is about one decent qb comes out of the draft on average each year…
could be 2 or even 3 in one year then none the next year…
on average one per year…and the rest are gas pumping scrubs as pros…
all you have are pros, joes and busteroonies
April 27th, 2021 at 4:00 pm
What’s the problem here?
April 27th, 2021 at 4:33 pm
Fields will most likely be taken in the top 10 if not the top five, now if by some chance he is there at 32, I would pick him in a heartbeat and thank my lucky stars that we just got the steal of the draft.
April 27th, 2021 at 5:00 pm
I think the Bucs are actually thinking QB in the first round without a doubt. They have a obvious need for the next starting QB in possibly one year. They have no glaring weaknesses so why not make the gamble now!
April 27th, 2021 at 6:33 pm
Simms is fun to watch even though his receiver rankings are worse than Ira’s. How many times have we seen once highly touted quarterbacks go lower than they should? Marino, Montana, etc., etc. Hell, I remember Matt Barkley being talked about as a favorite to go number one overall way back when and he went in the 4th.
If this kid gets past 20, I can definitely see someone trading up for him despite his red flags and I seriously doubt that it’s us.
April 27th, 2021 at 6:40 pm
Compared to Brady’s mechanics, Field’s are a disaster.
April 27th, 2021 at 6:51 pm
Absolutely not interested in Justin Fields… As a Georgia fan, I can only remember him as a quitter who was afraid of competition. I wonder how he will react at the first sign of adversity.
April 27th, 2021 at 7:00 pm
Pfffffff Fields drops to 32???!!!! GTFO. No way. I’m not opposed to taking him there but there is no way. As long as it isnt Rousseau or Barmore. Every mock draft analyst has these guys going to them, does this really seem like BPA to you?
April 27th, 2021 at 7:22 pm
a lot of teams will pass on fields due to the fact he suffers from epilepsy
April 27th, 2021 at 7:53 pm
If he’s there at 32, the Bucs will pass. There is NO f-ing way they bring in this guy while Brady’s on a mission to repeat. We need guys who can contribute. This draft is WEAK at QB. W E A K.
Hard Pass.
April 27th, 2021 at 7:58 pm
Chris Simms played QB? Is that what we’re calling it now. Dude sucked from day one. And that stupid hair, what’s up with that? Go away Chris.
April 27th, 2021 at 8:26 pm
lol Cobra…. Compared to Brady most QB’s in the history of the game.. lol.. have been a disaster…lolol GO BUCS!!!!
April 27th, 2021 at 8:42 pm
I have not watched fields much, but accuracy is huge. Tom Brady is about as accurate as any QB I have seen in the last 45 years of watching football. And a huge part of accuracy is mechanics and also preventing injury. Yes someone can be accurate and their mechanics are not perfect. But look at Josh Freeman, he had the size and arm strength, but NOT accurate. Jameis same thing. Jameis would badly miss open receivers. Especially with Jameis, and his baseball windup throwing motion. Bad mechanics and both Jameis and Josh were very inaccurate. Accuracy and decision-making are first and foremost and then arm strength. If the guy has a strong arm too then all the better. But like Joe stated when he began to watch Brady, was Brady’s ridiculous accuracy. You can train like Brady, follow everything he does, but if you are not accurate, then you will be average or average+ but never great in today’s game. So to all the Saints fans and Jameis supporters like I have been since his first game as a freshman at FSU against Pitt. This will always be Jameis’s issue. Inaccuracy and of of course his decision making. He can get better at decision making, but accuracy is something that is rarely if ever improved at the pro level. GO BUCS!!!!!
April 27th, 2021 at 8:52 pm
I would take Mills over Fields. I personally think Davis Mills is the real deal. If not for the injuries and covid causing a huge lack of starts, I think he’d be chosen second.
April 27th, 2021 at 11:07 pm
Simms is a loser. He put > 10 QBs ahead of Tom during the last 5 year. So you should be surprised
April 29th, 2021 at 12:17 am
fields is overrated just like every other Ohio state qb. He’s not worth a third rd pick. Can’t wait to see which team drafts the next Dwayne haskins