Patrick Peterson And The Bucs
February 23rd, 2021
Unrealistic.
In a fantasy football world (keyword: fantasy) this would be cool. Joe just can’t see it happening (in a real world).
That would be stud Cardinals cornerback Patrick Peterson trading his red and black unis for pewter and red gear and the Bucs. But Sean O’Hara of NFL Network can see it happening.
In a segment today on “Good Morning Football,” O’Hara puts the pieces of the puzzle together where Peterson and the Bucs could make sweet football music.
Joe sees O’Hara working here. O’Hara mentioned how P2 once played for Bucs Super Bowl-winning coach Bucco Bruce Arians and defensive coordinator Todd Bowles. And if P2 is chasing a ring, O’Hara mentioned, why not go to the defending Super Bowl champion to play for familiar coaches in a tax-haven state known as Florida?
There are two major obstacles in Joe’s eyes standing between O’Hara’s vision and reality. The first being the Bucs just won a Super Bowl with young (cheap) corners. Those guys balled out in the biggest games, the playoffs.
Second, the Bucs are in a salary cap crunch. Already the Bucs are looking between couch cushions where Doritos and beer bottle caps and remotes go to die to try to find extra change to keep their own players.
So why would P2 want to work for slum money to play for the Bucs when he might bank elsewhere? Is he that hungry for a ring?
Besides, if the Bucs’ defense turns in another good season, Joe would wager cash that Bowles is gone in 2022 and is a head coach elsewhere.
Joe’s not anti-P2 in any way. Joe just cannot see how this happens outside of Big Storm Brewing-fueled dreams.
You can see O’Hara discuss P2 and the Bucs at the 4:00 mark of the NFL Network video below.
Could @P2 have a new team in 2021? 🤔
The @gmfb crew try to find the perfect fit for the free agent Pro Bowl CB 👇 pic.twitter.com/ASmBVlIq4W
— NFL Network (@nflnetwork) February 23, 2021
February 23rd, 2021 at 3:08 pm
he’s def not the player he once was…
moving right along ——–>
February 23rd, 2021 at 3:14 pm
No I agree with Joe. Our young defense balled out only gonna get better
February 23rd, 2021 at 3:15 pm
Slumming for a ring? Maybe but not likely. Thought about P2 or honey badger coming to the Bucs 2 years ago the moment BA got the job and was bringing Bowles to run the defence. lol btw do not think the sour badger will be coming to the Bucs now lol, after his theatrics. GO BUCS!!!!
February 23rd, 2021 at 3:17 pm
I agree Joe…..people need to come to their senses….we will be fortunate to find enough money to sign Ryan Smith as a backup & special teams….much less Peterson.
I don’t think most fans have any idea how many FAs we have to sign along with the 2021 draft class…..
February 23rd, 2021 at 3:19 pm
Pass.
February 23rd, 2021 at 3:20 pm
Here’s the list:
Shaquil Barrett
Lavonte David
Steve McLendon
Rob Gronkowski
Ndamukong Suh
Joe Haeg
Leonard Fournette
Ryan Smith
Antonio Brown
Rakeem Nunez-Roches
Ryan Griffin
Antony Auclair
Kevin Minter
Blaine Gabbert
Earl Watford
A.Q. Shipley
Ryan Succop
LeSean McCoy
Andrew Adams
Josh Wells
Deone Bucannon
Ross Cockrell
Kenjon Barner
Chris Godwin
Jack Cichy
Tanner Hudson
Jeremiah Ledbetter
T.J. Logan
Pat O’Connor
Buccaneers
Aaron Stinnie
Zach Triner
Cyril Grayson
February 23rd, 2021 at 3:22 pm
That’s why we have you … to tell us everything.
Tampabaybucfan Says:
February 23rd, 2021 at 3:17 pm
I don’t think most fans have any idea how many FAs we have to sign along with the 2021 draft class…..
February 23rd, 2021 at 3:24 pm
Can you tell us how much cap space $$$ we have ..
February 23rd, 2021 at 3:45 pm
nawl…dean and davis are great on the outside…smb came alive in the slot…winfield and whitehead are beast at S….and i really like edwards, he always around the ball…
we still need some CB help…cockrell is trash imo…
GO BUCS!!!!
February 23rd, 2021 at 3:47 pm
Adrnagy
If you’re being sarcastic….look at my post above yours….if you are being complimentary, thanks.
February 23rd, 2021 at 3:52 pm
The Buccaneers currently have $23.8 million in available salary cap space. Below is a more in-depth breakdown of the Buccaneers’ cap space:
The Buccaneers are able to carry over $4.6 million in salary cap space to their 2021 salary cap. Therefore, the Buccaneers’ salary cap for the 2021 NFL season is $185.6 million. Entering the 2021 season, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have a $161.0 million cap number on their top 51 contracts and $0.8 million in dead money. That gives the Buccaneers a top-51 cap number of $161.8 million.
The Buccaneers currently rank 13th in the NFL when it comes to cap space in 2021.
February 23rd, 2021 at 3:55 pm
So, we have enough cap space to sign Chris Godwin & maybe Kellen Winslow Jr.
You can forget Peterson.
February 23rd, 2021 at 4:00 pm
@ TBBF
I keep banging the same drum. But everyone wants to believe PFF who has us signing LVD and Shaq to big deals and franchise tagging Godwin for $15.3 million…
Keep dreaming folks.
And yes I understand that we will probably restructure a few contracts.
It’s still not enough to keep them all.
February 23rd, 2021 at 4:03 pm
Tampabaybucfan, can you update your list Earl Watford
A.Q. Shipley , buccaneers , jack cichy not coming back. And acouple signed already to future contract.
Announced QB Alex Tanney has retired.
Quinton Bell (DE) Signed DE Quinton Bell to a Reserve/Future contract.
Cyril Grayson (WR) Signed WR Cyril Grayson to a Reserve/Future contract.
Javon Hagan (DB) Signed DB Javon Hagan to a Reserve/Future contract.
Travis Jonsen (WR) Signed WR Travis Jonsen to a Reserve/Future contract.
Nick Leverett (G) Signed G Nick Leverett to a Reserve/Future contract.
Codey McElroy (TE) Signed TE Codey McElroy to a Reserve/Future contract.
Herb Miller (CB) Signed DB Herb Miller to a Reserve/Future contract.
John Molchon (G) Signed G John Molchon to a Reserve/Future contract.
Josh Pearson (WR) Signed WR Josh Pearson to a Reserve/Future contract.
Benning Potoa’e (DL) Signed DE Benning Potoa’e to a Reserve/Future contract.
Kobe Smith (DT)
C.J. Prosise (RB) Signed RB C.J. Prosise to a Reserve/Future contract.
Sam Renner (DT) Signed DT Sam Renner to a Reserve/Future contract.
Donell Stanley (C
February 23rd, 2021 at 4:11 pm
The list is simply players who were on the roster who are now FAs……many won’t be considered……
A good example of a problem for us is a player like Aaron Stinnie……
He was on a salary of $750K…….There is no way we resign him for anywhere near that amount.
You simply can’t look at the available cap space vs other teams without considering the number of players we need to sign.
February 23rd, 2021 at 4:22 pm
I get what you saying … my point is licht and company are already at work , finding the next stinnie, shaq , etc. because there’s no way we can afford everyone.
February 23rd, 2021 at 4:27 pm
He was getting toasted all season seriously. Go rewatch any of their gms it was bad all year.
February 23rd, 2021 at 4:30 pm
A shut down corner over david would be better imo.. bring shaq back with a shut down corner and jpp would be sweet
February 23rd, 2021 at 4:44 pm
Adrnagy Says:
February 23rd, 2021 at 4:22 pm
I get what yu saying … my point is licht and company are already at work , finding the next stinnie, shaq , etc. because there’s no way we can afford everyone.
Oh, I agree entirely….not trying to project doom & gloom…I’m optimistic about next year’s roster……we have an extraordinary level of talent. Our entire Oline, 2 RBs…..4 WRs, 2 TEs under contract….
Just trying to be realistic without being the Realist.
February 23rd, 2021 at 5:27 pm
Tampabaybucfan Says:
February 23rd, 2021 at 4:11 pm
The list is simply players who were on the roster who are now FAs……many won’t be considered……
A good example of a problem for us is a player like Aaron Stinnie……
He was on a salary of $750K…….
I think — but am not sure – that you are wrong on Stinnie.
I believe that he is an ERFA. That means the Buc’s hold the cards on him – right?
All the Bucs have to do is tender him a salary that is the minimum for his years of service. So something like 850k to 900k?
If I am right – got to think he will be back at that salary.
February 23rd, 2021 at 5:27 pm
If he’s coming in for entry level money, then of course you get him, even if his play isn’t what it once was, having a potential HOF-level player is good for the young guys. But I don’t really see him signing a minimum wage deal – and the Bucs have zero cap space to mess around. But having him there to help keep SMB at a high level, that alone would make him worth a roster spot, even if he’s not on the field.
February 23rd, 2021 at 5:51 pm
geno711
I believe that Stinnie is a RFA….not an EFRA…..that means that we can tender him but another team can offer him more and we have the right to match it.
February 23rd, 2021 at 5:59 pm
Joe, the third factor is PP is a shell of his former self. Still serviceable but nothing more. If he’s not interested in playing for the vet minimum then it’s a no thanks. What Rod Munch said^^^^^
February 23rd, 2021 at 5:59 pm
Stinnie is our only RFA
O’Connor, Triner, Ledbetter & Hudson are our ERFAs
February 23rd, 2021 at 6:00 pm
What the hell does Joe know? He’s the same bozo that thought Jaymiss was somethin special
February 23rd, 2021 at 6:03 pm
What the hell does Joe know? He’s the same bozo that thought Jaymiss was somethin special
February 23rd, 2021 at 6:05 pm
Very low probability event, IMHO. Keep the young kids, go for OL Depth and get some more RBs to back up RoJo (David Johnson and James White).
February 23rd, 2021 at 6:15 pm
Pat P washed up, over the hill, didn’t he get popped for PED’s ? No! to overpriced, injury waiting to happen!
February 23rd, 2021 at 6:45 pm
Agreed Joe, makes no sense at all, just fantasy wishful thinking.
February 23rd, 2021 at 7:10 pm
How about this instead? Bucs resign Shaq, AND also sign Von Miller? JPP, Shaq, and Von rotating on the edges, keeping everyone fresh and healthy. Highly unlikely, I know, but I can dream.
February 23rd, 2021 at 7:16 pm
@Tampabaybucfan
Spotrac lists Stinnie as an ERFA.
OvertheCap lists Stinnie as a RFA.
Joe a few days ago said that he is a RFA.
i will go with you, Joe and Overthecap
I would be curious as to how that was decided though.
For instance, I read that Alan Lazard of the Green Bay Packers was an ERFA.
Both Lazard and Stinnie were undrafted free agents in 2018. Stinnie at Tennessee and Lazard at Jacksonville. So their paths seem similar to me.
February 23rd, 2021 at 7:40 pm
Champions have good depth.
Cockrell, Stinnie, Minter should be resigned
February 23rd, 2021 at 7:57 pm
Our young defense played lights out, and are only gonna get better.
Plus, we really can’t afford him either.
February 23rd, 2021 at 8:16 pm
813bucboi
I agree with almost everything. Especially Edwards stepping his game up. They need to play up But I’ve seen Cockrell make a few good plays. But we do still need CB depth desperately.
February 23rd, 2021 at 8:19 pm
Agree with SOE. Stinnie and Minter (Special teams too) are good re-signings for depth. Plus they enjoy the ring thing.
February 23rd, 2021 at 8:33 pm
geno711
I think a player has to play in 6 games for 3 years in order to qualify as a ERFA….
In his 3 years Stonnie has played 1,5 & 6 games…..
February 23rd, 2021 at 8:36 pm
Agree with 813 also. Cockrell served his purpose for immediate need but opposing teams would target that dude constantly and I don’t think he would hold up.
Listen to 813. He’s also my psychiatrist during Bucs games. Usually goes something like this: cmurda flipping out on one of our players. 813 is like cmurda relax dude. I try to chill and then that player always without fail makes a play. Now I feel like I have to do it. It’s superstition at this point. We won the SB baby! I digress.
February 23rd, 2021 at 8:46 pm
Two years ago maybe, but I dont think we need him
February 23rd, 2021 at 9:07 pm
No. cant afford the salary OR the roster spot.
February 23rd, 2021 at 10:50 pm
Yeah, why don’t we just stop fantasizing about top $$$ guys when we don’t even know how we’ll pay our own guys. Maybe if you lose Barrett and you can’t sign a replacement, you think of spending the money on the CB as an alternative if the pass rush is diminished.
February 23rd, 2021 at 11:49 pm
If he comes dirt cheap, fine with me. Depth is good.
February 24th, 2021 at 10:40 am
cmurda
hat tip…lol…
GO BUCS!!!!