Horrible Hands
November 24th, 2020
Dropsies.
The way things are going for Bucs running backs, Team Glazer will have to hire Ronald Jones and Leonard Fournette personal drivers.
Why? Because they keep dropping their keys.
Last night was just an example of how awful Bucs running backs have been at catching passes this year. In fact, the Bucs running backs, namely RoJo and Fournette, are at a historic pace for dropping passes.
Jenna Laine of ESPN has the details.
From @ESPNStatsInfo: Bucs running backs have dropped 13 passes and 13.7% of their targets this season, both highest in the NFL. That drop rate would be the highest by a team in a single season since the 49ers in 2011 (14.7%). The Browns and Steelers are also at 13.6% this season.
— JennaLaineESPN (@JennaLaineESPN) November 24, 2020
This is just out of hand. No wonder park-violating, home-invading, NFLPA-ignoring, down-forgetting, jet ski-losing Bucs quarterback Tom Brady is losing trust in his running backs.
Joe understands some are begging for Shady McCoy to be given more snaps in the passing game. Given his history, Joe isn’t against that at all. But Joe thought the Bucs drafted a pass-catcher in the third round, someone named Ke’shawn Vaughn? He was inactive last night.
In the very few targets Vaughn has had, he looks damn smooth catching out of the backfield. Why not keep him active and try him? What can the Bucs lose?
For some background, RoJo and Fournette have 38 and 34 targets respectively. Cam Brate has 19 targets and Shady has 14. Vaughn has seven.
If you go by catch percentage (which is a dubious stat), Shady isn’t any better or worse than RoJo or Fournette.
November 24th, 2020 at 1:36 pm
they were horrible last night followed by TB’s long ball and the coaches scheme.
Rams might be tough, but they were still in the game, and this can’t all be blamed on the scheme
November 24th, 2020 at 1:40 pm
Fournette now has more drops than Rojo and less catches… and yet he’s out on the field stinking it up while Rojo sits. Leftwich isn’t getting a head coaching job ever at this point.m and for good reason. Fournette is below average. Shady should be cut. Why are they keeping his rotting corpse on the team anyways?
November 24th, 2020 at 1:42 pm
Why draft another RB if you are not going to use him and either the OL is terrible or fournette is washed up…..who is the bucs gm these days?
November 24th, 2020 at 1:42 pm
Totally agree on giving Vaughn his shot. If Fournette is still the 3rd down back going forward, it’s a gross mismanagement of that role.
November 24th, 2020 at 1:45 pm
I’d like to see Vaughn given a chance at 3rd down back,
Fournette ain’t cutting it!
November 24th, 2020 at 1:55 pm
It baffles me that you can make it as an NFL caliber player and NOT be able to catch a &*%$#&* football!
November 24th, 2020 at 2:07 pm
True – It also baffles me why the coaches keep calling for pass plays to these RBs when the data clearly show that they will flub it. Can’t the coaches see what we all can see? It is clear, for this a other reasons, that our coaches are somewhat stupid. And, imo, the main reason we lost last night.
November 24th, 2020 at 2:19 pm
Where is Charles Sims?
November 24th, 2020 at 2:35 pm
@Tampabaybucfan
Instead of pining for an old player, why not start blaming the “real” problem!!!!!!!! How many Rb’s have they gone thru?????? Maybe the sheep need to start pining for A “real” NFL GM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is the point of being “all in” if all they come away with is empty hands???????????????
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 24th, 2020 at 2:49 pm
It’s hard to disguise what the offense is doing if your RB is a one trick pony. I think that’s why Fournette took the majority of the snaps. He’s the best all around back(Pass blocking, rushing, catching) we have.
November 24th, 2020 at 2:58 pm
i will say, it seems TB throws to the RB’s backside on screens leaving him open to a blindside and having to turn and run……….tough enough to catch and spin and add to it the idea of being completely blasted….. I think anyone would be a bit jittery and ready to turn before getting the ball.
probably looks good in practice with no threat of getting killed.
November 24th, 2020 at 2:59 pm
“Thats Kobe’s Girl!
Jenna L with those tight outfits
Kobe will drop to his knees every time to catch a quick peep if Jenna L is front of him”
Kobe Stalker Faker
November 24th, 2020 at 3:22 pm
I’ve been looking for Vaughn every week. Plus, if RoJo drops a pass they sit him down and forget he’s a pretty good runner.
November 24th, 2020 at 3:38 pm
Dang, I can’t get to the thread about Rojo from last week–I predicted we’d have a hard time opening holes against their defense, and Rojo works rush 11 times for 27 yards—he rushed 10 for 24
November 24th, 2020 at 4:29 pm
How bout run the dang ball.
And here’s an idea… Get Scotty miller in the backfield to catch balls. AB. CG. Johnson. Other teams do it. They get creative. Get first downs
We plow into the middle of the line, throw it deep, or throw it to line of scrimmage.
November 24th, 2020 at 5:28 pm
RoJo didn’t have nearly this many issues catching the ball last year.
In fact he averaged like 10 yards per catch. I wonder what happened?
Either way, he’s better than Fournette at running and catching, just like some of us were saying in the offseason. He is good for those short yardage plays though, so I’m glad we have him.
On our 2nd scoring drive, after a couple more failed runs up the gut on 1st down, we start doing some runs to the outside and play action on 1st down. It was so effective! Why did we get away from that? Why isn’t Brown ever targeted on slants?
Also Gronk has had some big plays but also some critical drops every single week.
November 24th, 2020 at 5:43 pm
The Bucs have no true 3rd down back. Fornette is clearly not comfortable in that role and McCoy is washed.
Ill be honest the Bucs are not a superbowl contender this year, we simply have too many flaws on this team. With all the talent we have we’re 1 homerun offseason away from being a contender.
November 24th, 2020 at 6:44 pm
Ever since Vaughn got rocked on the hit in the Chicago game and fumbled, he has been invisible. I have been wondering why he has not been out there more. It is obvious why Fournette is in there and not Rojo, they just do not trust him with the game close or on the line. So even thou Fournette suddenly can’t catch a cold, he is still there. That is 1 reason why they get away from the running game, because Rojo is not even on the field. So if the game is close, and when they need to be able to run, they do not trust Rojo on the field, so Rojo literally becomes a “Catch 22” lol They need him but his hands are a liability, but he is the better runner. GO BUCS!!!!
November 24th, 2020 at 7:10 pm
Just block for the kid and hand him the freakin’ ball.
November 24th, 2020 at 8:35 pm
I agree… Fournette has been stinking up the joint. Terrible performance. Cant stand the guy… supposed to be power guy but he dipsidoodles at the point of contact instead of using his size it seems… Jones has been running hard… why they take him out and let Fournette drop 3 passes? Strange… they got a 1st down with Jones then took him outta the game when they could’ve ran more!!! Horrible play calling too…
November 24th, 2020 at 8:39 pm
They keep taking Rojo out and putting in the Prancing Panda out there to no avail. Don’t understand why they keep doing this. Unfourtunatto is timid behind the line and Rojo is decisive and runs with authority. This is old just like watching Brady throw over 20 yards. You all tried to blame Jameis for all the lack of YAC, how much did the goat throw? Not much because it is all part of Coach My Scheme Arians just like no use of tight ends, wait they’re using them this year something they didn’t last year even though Cam Brate was one of Jameis favorite targets.
Funniest thing all week, the troll formerly known as unrealisto finally made its appearance after all this year……priceless!
November 24th, 2020 at 9:17 pm
Vaughn has hands he’s just not getting any reps. I’m excited to see him at #2 RB (?) next year.
November 24th, 2020 at 9:29 pm
DavidBigBucsFan99
Because they stick to their game plan for the game and Leftwich is terrible at making any adjustments on the field. 23 carries for 192 yards to 10 for 23. Fournette does not create PA and had brick hands all night as well. This coaching scheme is embarrassing.
November 25th, 2020 at 3:52 pm
I agree, I don’t think McCoy is the answer. To be an effective back, you have to be able to catch and run the ball. McCoy is pretty much a non-factor in the run game, so opposing defenses will key on him whenever he’s in the lineup on 3rd downs. They’ll know he’s going to be the safety valve or screen receiver out of the backfield. Both Fournette and ROJO can run the ball well when given seams by the O-line, but neither can catch. So why not put Vaughn in? At least give it a shot before the playoffs arrive.