Frustration
November 12th, 2020
Odd couple.
Reading articles with unnamed sources who allege things is always fun. That starts the puzzle process of trying to figure out who is behind the words.
So this morning, long-time NFL scribe Mike Sando of The Athletic has a midseason update of his quarterback tier rankings. Sando regularly has insightful columns about football information from unnamed sources.
Joe’s talked to Sando a few times. He’s got tremendous sources throughout the league, so he’s not throwing stuff against the wall just for the heck of it.
A guy Sando identified only as an NFL “offensive coordinator” is sensing the marriage of Bucco Bruce Arians and park-violating, home-invading, NFLPA-ignoring, down-forgetting quarterback Tom Brady isn’t working.
The coordinator in question pointed out how awful Brady has looked the past two weeks and he senses Brady is frustrated with Arians.
“Tom didn’t look very good. He looks frustrated. I think they are having a tough time meshing what Brady wants to do and what Bruce (Arians) has always done. Brady doesn’t always have good outlets, and Bruce might not be giving him good outlets because he wants to throw it up the field. It will be interesting how that plays out.”
Where were these same people when Brady torched the Packers or rallied the Bucs with a 24-points second half, or dominated the Raiders?
Per Sando’s sources, Brady is rated as the best Tier-2 quarterback in the league.
Did this offensive coordinator notice something the Giants exposed and the Saints continued to expose that has left Brady looking more like Stewart McClown than a Hall of Fame quarterback? It’s an unanswered question from Sando’s story.
Joe suspects with the hopeful return of Ali Marpet and better blocking from the left side of the line, Brady will resume what was a damn strong season even by his standards.
November 12th, 2020 at 9:22 am
if missing marpet causes that much damage to the offense, we need to draft LT,G/C,RT with our 1st 3 picks in the draft….
GO BUCS!!!!!
November 12th, 2020 at 9:23 am
I’m with Brady. The risk it no biscuit killed us from the very first drive. We needed every possession and we throw it away trying to throw deep with the very first pass.
November 12th, 2020 at 9:33 am
I do notice that the O often seems out of whack and choppy. Even in the big wins… what happens if the chargers don’t fumble or the packers don’t throw a pick 6??? Hope it gets worked out. Remember all those articles about how Carson Palmer and others say it takes a half a season? Maybe?
November 12th, 2020 at 9:50 am
Trash the scripted play book for the start of games. Need to put together long drives & score TDs. Would also help keep the defense off the field.
November 12th, 2020 at 9:58 am
” what if the Packers don’t throw a pick 6″ The Bucs still would have won the game?
November 12th, 2020 at 10:18 am
@mike C… maybe, but packers game and saints game were pretty simillar starts untill the pick 6. Packers up 10-0 to end the 1st with the ball and driving. We will never know
November 12th, 2020 at 10:26 am
I think all questions will be answered on Sunday, by 4 PM.
November 12th, 2020 at 10:28 am
We need to run the ball! Feed RoJo in the first half and Fournette in the second half. Our offense started clicking when RoJo started rolling. It’s too simple.
November 12th, 2020 at 10:30 am
How many passes did Jamesis throw from the shotgun last year. Not many if any. You know Bruce has not been a shotgun guy. But we see Brady in the Shotgun a lot. So there is an example of BA changing some. I do not know what conversations are taking place, but I would do stuff Mr 6 RINGS is comfortable with. Seems like common sense. Again the winningest QB of all time, I do not know Bruce personally, I can only say I hope ego is not getting in the way. Bruce is not getting any younger and the Bucs are all in on winning a Super Bowl as much as any team I have ever seen recently. Whatever the GOAT wants to run, run the play. If he is comfortable, that = high production on offense and winning. Again, Tom is the GOAT, and you brought him in for a shot at glory. So crap and get off the pot. GO BUCS!! KEEP TOM ALIVE FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP DRIVE!!!
November 12th, 2020 at 10:41 am
No one has said this yet but I think they miss OJ more than anyone realizes. Tom and Oj were starting to build chemistry and the matchup problem’s OJ presented to the defense are greatly missed.
November 12th, 2020 at 10:52 am
Ultimately the guy with the ball in his hand has final say. The coach can only bench him he can’t force him to read the field differently or change his preferences.
Having said that I do not believe that’s it’s style as much as simple execution.
It’s easy to overreact especially when you get a beatdown. We did not play well…we can do better. We clearly choked and failed to execute the game plan on D….was that the players or Bpwles? I tend to trust the DC over very young DB’s…and an MLB in only his second season.
But here is where it’s easy to overreact. When you play far more poorly than your talent against a team with excellent talent.
How much of our failure was simply due to NO’s talent…especially in the trenches. Brady will never win playing from his butt. Either the OL has to improve or there needs to be a lot more dinking and dunking and screens and draws and FAR LESS predictability.
Sometimes you lose a game. Sometimes the other teams beats you. Sometimes it’s the very worst disaster when a better team plays a weaker team that shows up with it’s C game.
We played poorly enough to LOSE against NO. But let’s not lose all sense of sportsmanship…NO played their arses off. The dominated us in the trenches which opened up their passing and shut ours down. They were simply better than us.
So again…”The plan”…play well enough this season to make the playoffs and end our loser culture. That’s at least ten games and the playoffs. That’s major improvement.
Next year…Brady returns…we draft or sign UDFA’s to get a couple of young promising QB’s in camp to work with Brady.
We draft another OL very high and hope we hit the jackpot like Wirfs…we draft some DB’s…hopefully a cover corner our safeties are good and deep.
Then we start addressing depth the real mark of a championship team.
There is no shame in winning record this year…playoffs…SB next year.
November 12th, 2020 at 11:08 am
Arians needs to adapt to his QB.
November 12th, 2020 at 11:19 am
It is quite simple folks. Brady and Evans don’t fit and that’s OK. It reminds me of Dak and Dez Bryant. Both Brady and Dak aren’t wired to throw 50/50 balls. Brady likes to get rid of the ball quick, but Evans needs a receiver who will hold the ball a tick longer to take advantage of his skillset. Evans doesn’t get a ton of separation most of the time, but he will come down with those 50/50 balls. The coaches need to move him around too
November 12th, 2020 at 11:22 am
Although the first drive was a three and out, I thought they figured it out. On one of the plays (I believe the 3rd down) they had Brown in the backfield with Brady, I was thinking this is awesome we’re going to find a way to get miss-matches and get our play makers the ball. They never ran that formation again and didn’t even get Brown the ball on that play lol so much for BA and BL figuring it out.
When a team dominates you in the trenches year in and year out you have to be creative with your play calls and counter the rush. The Bucs fail to do that anytime they play a D worth a damn
November 12th, 2020 at 11:24 am
813bucboi almost agree. I know the joes say the OL is fine, but theyre mediocre at best. Also maddeningly inconsistent. Wouldn’t it be nice to have a dominant OL for once? Draft a LT and a Guard with the first two picks next year…
November 12th, 2020 at 11:27 am
Football is won at the LOS. Just look at what happened last week: when you pressure a quarterback constantly, even a guy like Tom Brady looks bad. Then think about the last seven years of Bucs’ football and see how no pass rush can make a mediocre QB like Case Keenum or Nick Foles look like Joe Montana.
November 12th, 2020 at 11:36 am
I hope they give Josh Rosen a chance to become TB successor. I know he’s been around but maybe the Bucs can bring out the best in him. After all he was a #1 pick. Gabbert & Griffin are surely not the answer. Also I would let TB call his own plays if he wants to. Here again Lefty’s not the answer. He really sucks. Hope some other team hires him to be there HC.
November 12th, 2020 at 11:45 am
Hard to watch. Hard to watch how awkward this offense is, how bad the guy with the most rings has looked for long stretches, how much the defense has regressed each week minus Vea. Sinking ship.
November 12th, 2020 at 12:09 pm
I ddon’t know why the psycho analysis happens every time following a loss. We were anemic on offense for 2 primary reasons. The O Line could not protect. Byron isn’t expansive enough to be able to adjust to quicker playcalling when the O Line is failing to adjust. Brady wasn’t great in this game but he is pretty far down the list when assessing blame for the atrocious Saints game. It’s one loss. nothing more. Nothing less. Learn from the failures but you cant get too high or too low. If you told me after 9 games we would be 6-3, I would be grinning from ear to ear.
November 12th, 2020 at 12:31 pm
It’s simple…if we brought the GOAT here to simply run BAs O (as coordinated by the increasingly inept BL), then this will be one of the all-time laughers in a Bucs’ history filled with hysterically bad outcomes.
If we go up in flames, let’s do it on the shoulders of #12’s ego vs the HC’s. Surely ownership agrees, given that Gronk and AB are here….right?
November 12th, 2020 at 12:34 pm
Just win and look like you know what you are doing.
November 12th, 2020 at 12:47 pm
One of the things I’m noticing is that against quality defenses, our Bucs’ offense doesn’t normally play all that well. And our defense usually has a hard time with quality offenses. Wow, whodathunkit?
We’ve had 3 losses, 2 of them to 1 team. Saints have the #4 offense & #14 defense. In our 1st loss to the Saints, they ran the ball 34 times plus had 32 passing attempts. In our 2nd loss to the Saints, they ran the ball 37 times plus had 36 passing attempts. (Hmmm, looks like a nicely BALANCED ATTACK both times). Bears (our other loss) have a terrible offense (#29) but an excellent defense (7). In our loss to the Bears, we held their offense in check because they had lousy BALANCE (14 rushes against 45 passing attempts). But our offense couldn’t get on-track against the Bears defense, and we were just as unbalanced (20 rushes against 44 passing attempts).
Someone needs to tell BA & BL that there’s more to game planning than just saying ‘Throw the damn ball’. When we stomped the Packers, our Bucs ran it 35 times against only 28 passes. Won the turnover battle 2-0 allowing no sacks & committing no penalties. Wow, what a concept.
November 12th, 2020 at 12:51 pm
hand the reigns over to TB……..he’s a statue, but deadly with an offense he’s comfortable with. We don’t have all theses stud WR’s to sit the pine. 4 wide with short routes and when they come up go deep, mixed in with quick handoffs and screens to Fourtnette. Can you imaging Brady in NE with them calling plays and these weapons?
Unleash the beast, BA and BL swallow your pride!
and TB, learn how to game plan……all those stats are with big leads. the defense gets shredded in dogfights with all the fancy blitzes….use em when you’re up by 3 scores if you wanna pad your ego. and will someone teach White how to cover…..he’s a HUGE liability in coverage, even though he is a stud.
November 12th, 2020 at 6:13 pm
D.R.
Totally agree about the run/pass ratio especially since ROJO has emerged as the real deal and there is every possibility Fournette is even better. RUN THE DAMN BALL. I can’t believe I…an old AFL guy just typed that!!! LMAO
November 12th, 2020 at 6:48 pm
If I read it right the other day StPete, our 5 rushes in the entire game set a new NFL record. The Minnesota Vikings had tied the previous record with only 6 rushing attempts in a Sep 2018 game, a record that it shares with the 2004 Patriots & 2006 Cardinals. All 3 teams lost handily (go figure huh).
Not sure that’s a record I’d want to own. Especially after it led to a 38-3 beating. And yes, RUN THE DAMN BALL.
November 12th, 2020 at 8:32 pm
Tom I hope they give him a chance as well bro . He never got a real shot . He was drafted by the Cardinals and only played 1 year because they fired the coach . Then he went to the dolphins and they were rebuilding the team by cutting everyone around him . I hate how young quarterbacks are treated in today’s NFL . They don’t give them time to develop and they are being drafted by these bad teams with nothing around them and they are being judged by it as well and they are being called a bust.