Brown’s Impact Still Unknown
November 9th, 2020
Jury still out.
A lot of Bucs fans were jacked for this. NBC sure was pimping it. And while Joe had reservations, Joe was stoked to see how it would work out.
Well, we are still waiting. We are waiting to see if furniture-tossing Antonio Brown will have an impact with the Bucs. And why is that?
Well, even after being targeted five times last night, the Bucs offensive line was such a jailbreak, not only did it remind Joe of 2014 with Anthony Collins, Evan Dietrich-Smith, Garrett “Whoops” Gilkey and Oniel Cousins, park violating-home-invading, NFLPA-ignoring, down-forgetting Bucs quarterback Tom Brady had little chance to get off any decent passes because the Saints were on top of him.
As a result, Judy Batista of NFL.com suggests the Brown experiment is still an experiment.
That Brown made almost no impact on the game should not be a surprise. Brady was under unrelenting duress from the Saints’ pass rush, the receivers were blanketed by defenders, and the Bucs were out of whack from the very start. Brady’s third interception of the night – a duck heaved into the middle of the field under pressure – was simply one of the worst passes Brady has ever thrown. This was Brady’s first regular season game with at least three interceptions since a week three loss to Buffalo in 2011, according to NFL Research. Even if Brown had been up to speed, he couldn’t have helped that.
Whatever the hell happened to that offensive line needs to be fixed. It was bad from the first play on, when Tristan Wirfs, who has played so well all year got bull-rushed so badly by Cam Jordan that Brady’s arm and face got hit while he was trying to throw the ball.
Joe watched the Stinking Panthers yesterday damn near beat the Chiefs. That team Carolina is very well-coached. They just got Christian McCaffrey back.
The Bucs better snap out of whatever funk they are in very quickly.
November 9th, 2020 at 8:05 am
No…..Brown’s impact still unknown….but so id Evans’, Godwin’s, Miller’s, Gronk’s according to last night…..
The only impact we know that has worked was Succop’s.
November 9th, 2020 at 8:08 am
Yesterdays game was the opposite of the Packers game. I put most of the game on coaching as they did nothing to account for the Saints. They thought they’d go in there with the same game plan they have had for weeks and it would work. You don’t play zone and off coverage on Brees/Payton. The should have gone a bland man defense. They’ve seen the crazy blitzes and were ready. The offense? WTF. Same game plan. What happened to four wide…and I mean early. Should have gone with more of a Patriots look with quick handoffs to the backs if needed. How if TB gonna audible w/o the right weapons on the field. That being said, whatever is going on with ME and TB needs to be squashed immediately.
November 9th, 2020 at 8:17 am
Looks like an ill-prepared, poorly coached, not ready for prime time team yesterday. But they are still 6-3 and time to correct things but where to start?
November 9th, 2020 at 8:23 am
The zone defense was laughable. Second half defense was much better statistically, but by then it was over so can’t adequately compare.
Win next week and things are back on track. It’s fine.
November 9th, 2020 at 8:33 am
coaches did have this team ready to go….i guess they thought is was just “another game”…lol…
saints sure didnt play as if it was just “another game”….
GO BUCS!!!!!
November 9th, 2020 at 8:44 am
I don’t think it’s a funk unfortunately. It’s who they are. The Giants exposed them and the Saints exploited them. This team will be lucky to win 9 games.
November 9th, 2020 at 8:45 am
You have to ask yourself if teams can win with less weapons why cant the Bucs win with more weapons? I just dont understand, I didn’t expect to win every game this season, but a blow out was not on my mind or a close one with the Giants.
November 9th, 2020 at 8:56 am
Thev Bucs were whipped at the line of scrimmage, they have been dominated by the Saints defensive line the 4 games over 2 years. And playing off coverage with no pressure. Football is won and lost in the trenches, and they got whooped period. Time
November 9th, 2020 at 8:57 am
time to go back to the basics, and star winning theline of scrimmage. Vita is needed, Roches cant handle the run game. GO BUCS!!!!
November 9th, 2020 at 8:58 am
tough to watch last night. Feel like the bucs need to prepare to use gronk as a blocker only against teams like the saints. However, dominated in the trenches on both sides. Would’ve been nice to see this loss before the trade deadline and see some of these glaring holes.. Missing marpet and vea
November 9th, 2020 at 9:07 am
I put a ton of the blame on Leftwich…..4-5 rushes all game is unacceptable. We had 1st and goal from the 1 yd line…..we ran once when we had FOUR attempts to get it in. We also were on the 1 yd line after the fumble by Cook……again 1 attempt.
Those are two scenarios where you have to line up and pound the rock…..yet Leftwich does what he’s done all season, tried to be too cute in the play calling and is blinded to the obvious game management. Maybe its from having to coach Rosen then Winston….maybe he’s overly eager to pass with a QB like Brady but at some point you have to burn some degree of clock with a team like the Saints.
November 9th, 2020 at 9:11 am
At least AB won’t get shutdown by Lattimore (Mike Evans’ kryptonite).
Mike gets caught up w/ his ego that he’s going to beat Lattimore on the routes or catch over him. Ain’t happened, and ain’t gonna happen. He needs to learn to use his body to shield Lattimore away from the ball, but Lattimore is too busy living rent free and eating Mike’s lunch.
November 9th, 2020 at 9:15 am
If I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d believe that Brady’s lack of targets to Evans are his way of getting Evans traded and replaced by a cheaper AB…..
With us getting at least a #1 pick for Evans…..one could argue that….
November 9th, 2020 at 9:20 am
Evans proved this year he aint worth a #1 pick unless you have a horrible QB that only looks his way and throws it up. He’s slow and bad at routes and shielding defenders. He’s also a bit soft….how many times has he just stepped out of bounds for little reason…..
November 9th, 2020 at 9:38 am
When you throw a turd in the punch bowl , do not be surprised when it suddenly tastes , smells, and looks bad. Team chemistry is a delicate balancing act and that balance has been completely unsettled by adding AB. AB is a cancer causing agent on the FDA list of banned carcinogens. Cut the bum and admit you made a mistake.
If you need another quality wideout that badly , trade for one like the Pats did when they got Ford from the Fins. But I digress as it is a BUCS LIFE.
November 9th, 2020 at 9:40 am
@ Robert
Evans is definitely worth a #1 pick to the right team…..he is a possession receiver and much needed……draws double coverage….great hands……still relatively young……
We probably won’t trade him but there are certainly arguments for it.
November 9th, 2020 at 10:23 am
bobby
brees ran straight thru the defense….lol…WRs and TEs were open all game….
BL was bad but bowles and the defense was equally horrible….
GO BUCS!!!!!
November 9th, 2020 at 11:01 am
@Tbbf……..for the right team is the keyword. It’s not impossible, but it would need to be a pretty shallow receiving corps on that team.
November 9th, 2020 at 11:07 am
Acquiring Brown is a curse. If he were not on our team, Fickle Buc fans would be screaming for either his incarceration or commitment to a mental hospital.
November 9th, 2020 at 11:34 am
I think the whole team just gave Arians & Brady their opinion as to forcing Brown down their throats. They did it through their actions instead of words.
Neither the offense or defense is as bad as the show (or lack of) they put on last night. While I’m as happy as the next fan to have Brady, I think he overstepped his good will and/or respect with the team by bringing in Brown when we have Evans, Godwin, Gronk, etc.
November 9th, 2020 at 12:10 pm
He was the best player on the field last night.
How pathetic is that?
November 9th, 2020 at 12:11 pm
Oh and Leftwich sucks
November 9th, 2020 at 12:14 pm
@813bucboi Says:
“coaches did have this team ready to go…”
For the life of me, I have no idea how you can make that statement. Where did you see any evidence that the coaches did their job? On offense? Defense?
The players certainly contributed to such a poor showing, but no where did I see that the coaches had them ready for anything BUT an @ss whooping.
November 9th, 2020 at 12:17 pm
@Robert Says:
“Evans proved this year he aint worth a #1 pick…”
Dude, kind of like what TB’s wife said years ago, ME can’t throw the ball to himself and catch it. ME is one of the best in the league. That throw to ME in the corner of the end zone was flat so the DB could swat it away. Had TB put some air under it and dropped it in, it would have been a TD
November 9th, 2020 at 12:27 pm
Payton is a great coach. Bucs got out coached.
November 9th, 2020 at 2:31 pm
senor
that was a typo…
i meant “DIDNT”
GO BUCS!!!!
November 9th, 2020 at 4:01 pm
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“Neither the offense or defense is as bad as the show (or lack of) they put on last night. While I’m as happy as the next fan to have Brady, I think he overstepped his good will and/or respect with the team by bringing in Brown when we have Evans, Godwin, Gronk, etc.”
Neither one of those guys have been healthy all year. That’s why he is on the team
November 9th, 2020 at 4:14 pm
You saw the first effects of the cancer.
Terrible signing. Got rid one of one and replaced him with another.
November 10th, 2020 at 12:17 am
This team’s morale and performance was undisputedly improved by the elimination of a few players previously considered bad for team chemistry. Are Buccaneers suits so brain dead that the lesson is so quickly forgotten?
Are they so stupid to think that this principle somehow changes when the cancer’s name is Antonio Brown? “Stupid is as stupid does.”