Report: Jameis Close To One-Year Deal With Saints

April 26th, 2020

Nobody writes a soap opera quite like the Buccaneers.

In comes legendary Tom Brady and out-the-door goes America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, to the Saints in the NFC South.

Yahoo! Sports is reporting today that the Saints and Jameis are close to a one-year deal for Jameis to back up Drew Brees.

Of course, Jameis might have to beat out Taysom Hill for the No. 2 QB gig. But what fun it would be if, say, Jason Pierre-Paul knocks Brees out of a Sunday Night Football game and in comes Jameis.

Sean Payton talked the other day about how Brady will change the Bucs’ culture and that makes him squirm as a division rival. Joe wonders how related parties involved feel about Jameis now landing in the division.

The Saints have little cap room to pay Jameis, so it will be interesting to see what kind of salary they negotiate. Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports Jameis turned down more money with another team.

346 Responses to “Report: Jameis Close To One-Year Deal With Saints”

  1. BUC CHEEKS Says:

    It’s about to get ugly in here hahaha!!!!

  2. Leed Says:

    Why are we still talking about this bum!

  3. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    I think Jameis Winston signing on the Saints is a good move for him……but it also speaks to one of desperation.

    He obviously thought somehow and someway a team was going sign him to a “starter” type QB contract…………he and his agent severely miscalculated his worth and value; so essentially he took a backup role.

    Everybody here knows Jameis Winston is still an extremely talented QB, but his mental “in between the ears” decision making is a serious #1 concern.

    If somehow he pulls it all together…….some team will have a helluva player on their team for cheap.

  4. DoooshLaRue Says:

    Check ya sheets…….

    Who dat fiddin ta be eatin some Ws?

  5. 'daBUCisthis? Says:

    Good for him
    Go Bucs!!!

  6. Chris Says:

    And jameis will never see the field People forget Bridgewater was a playoff QB rising in the nfl before his devastating injury. It took him 3 years to bounce back from it

    Jameis has been a TO machine since college and only got drafted #1 because of a freshman year that had a ton of weapons. I hope people realize that brees really only had one reliable target in Thomas. Jameis is never going to find the weapons he had in Tampa elsewhere

  7. DoooshLaRue Says:

    Ndog will look great in a black and gold leotard.

  8. Bucsfan333 Says:

    Brees will get injured for Jameis to deal defeat to the Bucs. Learn under a great one and expose the horrible Bucs personnel team. GO JAMEIS!

  9. Jim Says:

    Are we now down to gleefully anticipating serious injury to future Hall of Famer Brees? Sad…

  10. Adrnagy Says:

    One year behind HOF Brees .. wow. First 5 yrs of Brees comes to mind. A lot of similarities.

    Why couldn’t licht signed Winston 1yr behind Brady ?

  11. Allbuccedup Says:

    Could have got 25 mil here but wanted 30 mil now he will be lucky to get 5 mil. After the Saints sign their couple of draft choices they will have minus 1 mil in cap space. So I don’t know if he will get 5 mil.

  12. MidwestBucsFan Says:

    Wait, a 1-year backup role?

    I thought, pending we check our sheet, he was “ballin”??

  13. tvan101 Says:

    BucsFan333 you are rooting for Jameis over the Bucs with Brady? You should change your name to JameisFan333 and stop being a hack.

  14. Buc1987 Says:

    Perhaps Winston will take over the reigns after Drew retires…which is soon.

    Payton’s always been a Winston fan.

  15. Marine Buc Says:

    Good luck Winston. You were both fun and frustrating to watch.

  16. Adrnagy Says:

    Don’t matter what $$$ he gets this year. After this one year is what would be interesting…. hes young. Two at least big contracts ahead.

  17. Bucs Fan Since ‘76 Says:

    I wonder if the Bucs’ front office gave any consideration at all to bringing Jameis back as a backup to Brady…🤔

  18. a-bomb Says:

    I am no Winston fan, but it is concerning that Payton, who has seen alot of Winston in person, is signing him. Maybe he thinks he can “fix” him. I just hope we don’t watch Winston become another ex-Buc QB to go become a HOF’er with another team (like Steve Young).

  19. Adrnagy Says:

    Anyway. Good luck to Jameis. And hope saints suck.

    And for us .. we’ll I’m praying everyday Brady don’t get hurt.

  20. JW94buc Says:

    Josh Freeman 2.0

  21. Bucsfan951 Says:


  22. Ndog Says:

    Let’s simply look at two scenarios here The worst case and the best case.

    The worst case first, we could have just given our rivals the next great NFL passer.

    The best case scenario now, we just gave our rivals in a 2-year win now window, a 5,000 yard backup while we have Blaine Gabbert and keep in mind we have the two oldest starting quarterbacks in the league.

    It is also being reported that Jameis turned down a more lucrative offer for a chance to learn behind a NFL great. I wonder why he didn’t do that here behind Brady? I guess the way you treat people does actually mean something.


  23. mark2001 Says:

    So the 30 mil. qb will be making 5 mil. next year. Good for him. Wish him well, as long as it doesn’t interfere with the success of the Bucs.

    Of course, the strategy might be to pick his brain regarding the Bucs and then kick him to the curb before much of that money on the one year contract is locked in.

    And when Brees retires, it should be an interesting competition. And don’t think Jameis will slip right into that job.

  24. Pewter Power Says:

    Funny how he is going the same route as Geraldine, team got better when Geraldine left no different losing Winston so we will be extra motivated as a team to make sure it doesn’t play out the way Winston thinks it will. Maybe he will be smart enough to shut up about the Bucs unlike McCoy.

  25. Pewter Power Says:

    Lattimore is looking at his coach sideways now with this signing.

  26. 813bucboi Says:

    He’ll lead the preseason in INTs and then he’ll get cut…lol…


  27. Marine Buc Says:

    “I guess the way you treat people does actually mean something.”

    Like the female Uber driver that was sexually assaulted?

    Your right… Karma is a bitch.

    Good luck eating those Ws… LOL!

  28. Pryda...sec147 Says:


  29. bucsince79 aka bumaneer Says:

    I wish him the best… I don’t think the Saints will be as good as most think this year… Brees had no arm to throw at the end of the year. Don’t blame it on the thumb injury…. I hope #3 plays us & we win on a pick 6…

  30. adam from ny Says:

    eatin’ W’s and crawfish…

    jaboo by the bayou

  31. BrianBucs Says:

    We all knew that Winston would finish his career as a journeyman backup, and so it begins…..

  32. DBS Says:


  33. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    He can hold a clipboard and wear a visor in NOLa just as good as anywhere else. Check your sheets!

  34. tbbucs3 Says:

    LOVE IT. Jameis is basically in rebuilding mode and man that is a load of talent to rebuild with. He will be DANGEROUS in a couple years.

  35. Bucsfan951 Says:

    Of course Npuppy doesn’t give any sources to anything bc he gets all of his info from that amateur, 1of1

  36. ©MadMax Says:

    Of course he turned down more money with another team, lol. He’s doing this to get back at us and will sing like a bird about everything he can to everyone there. Its actually hilarious, once again thinking he’s smart when its just a 1 year deal for intel, not turnovers….then they’ll show him the door.

    I really hope they play him against us so we can pick him off 5 times each game HAHAHAHAHAHA.

  37. JimbobBucsFan Says:

    We are talking about this “bum” because it is significant news in the NFL and within the NFC South.

    I understand that he is now “the enemy” but I still respect Jameis Winston as a human being and a professional football player.

    However, having said that, whether it is Brees, Winston or anyone else behind the center for the Saints I want to see them intercepted several times and planted in the dirt just as many times when we play them.

  38. donuts Says:

    Im laughing at all the Winston apologists commenting. Lovie, Koetter, and Arians could not fix Winston but Payton will. How about this reality…Winston cant be fixed. Check your sheet. Looking forward to seeing the Bucs D get 3-4 turnovers IF Winston ever takes the field.

  39. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Holy Flurk’n Sheet……Check your sheets….A Whole One Year Deal….fast forward to Patrick Mahomes deal when it hit the news…
    Jamyth is fighting for the number 2 slot….not #1 or #3…

  40. Rayjay1122 Says:

    Yep, he chose Nola for da seafood.

  41. adam from ny Says:

    he’s making like 5 mil…

    1 mil to sign…

    and 4 mil to turn over his bucs playbook

  42. DBS Says:

    He is already DANGEOUS! 1 more he is suspended how long???

  43. Ndog Says:

    For you 951:

  44. 813bucboi Says:


    Those are your dream scenarios….lol….

    JW won’t even beat out Taylor hill….and if a starter gets hurt, JW will be the first to get cut since he’s a 3rd string QB…

    He was unable to learn from the best because Bucs didn’t want he in the building……

    Drew and Sean are going to see a huge difference in teddy a playoff caliber QB before he arrived and JW a QB who set a nfl record with 30INTS


  45. Matt Says:

    Check yo sheet Jameis. By the 3rd game our offense will be performing at a historic pace and you will be 3rd string behind Hill and holding old man Brees’ clipboard. You will be the most ballin’ 3rd stringer in the NFL.

  46. Imon Says:

    Does Payton know something we don’t? If he thought Brees could get through another season why would he have 4 QBs on the roster? And I will bet a Big Storm brew that he will be behind Hill. And usually QB3s don’t even get $5M.

    Jameis: “I’m not taking $25M, I want $30M.”
    Saints: “$2.5M is the final offer.”
    Jameis: “Throw in crab legs and free Uber rides and I’m headin to NOLA.”

  47. Buc1987 Says:

    Bucsfan951 …sources for what… it’s in the article…

  48. Chris Says:

    I respect Sean Payton but it’s not like he has to commit to him after this year. Winston is cheap and he’s a back up. Let’s stop acting like he’s signing him to “fix” him.

    If he has to play he’ll neuter him like Jacksonville did to Bortles because both couldn’t stop turning the ball over.

  49. Buc1987 Says:

    Newsflash : the Saints beat us with or without our playbook.

  50. Mike Johnson Says:

    Beware ye critical losing Buc fans..Our franchise has a history of QB’s comin back to haunt us. Wouldn’t it be something if Jameis does that…I can see your faces now. That karma has a funny way of workin,,,Don’t worry I’ll be here as the antagonist tellin yas..I told you so.

  51. BigHog Says:

    I come to make it clear that his between the ears decision making got him the name Mr. 5,000, Mr. Entertainment, even America’s QB but not to everyone, especially those self-righteous, Goat The Great White Hope loving, not worth a 4th round pick Drunk’n Broke Back Mountain Man Gronk loving, Give me a shot and of Lysol loving (45) …..FAMOUS J will bounce back when given the chance, everyone here knows that he can, your just hoping and praying and wishing it’s not against THE BUCS…but stranger things has happened …Am I right!!!

  52. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    It is a free marketplace……there is no non-compete contract….he is free to sign with any team he wishes at any amount….

    We didn’t want him and have no say-so where he goes….

    Good luck, Jameis…..your tenure with us was tenuous.

  53. adam from ny Says:

    jameis is the back up there…

    taysom hill is not someone you can rely on as a qb…

    they just signed maybe the best backup qb in the league for probably next to nothing…

    they’re a superbowl contender…you need a good backup if your starter goes down…

    payton pulled a major move and got our playbook…

    BA is beet red storming around his apt. right now

  54. Buc1987 Says:

    Is he still being BLACK BALLED?


  55. Buc1987 Says:

    adma…and you really think Payton needs our playbook to beat us?

  56. adam from ny Says:

    taysom his hasn’t even accepted his 4.7 mil offer from the saints yet…if i’m correct…

    they should pull that sheet off the table on his azz, and say :

    “thanks, but we got that airhead jaboo…take your gimmick azz to saint elsewhere taysom”

  57. ©MadMax Says:

    Bighog, you a funny woman.

    Anyone else think this chic should start her own comedy tour?

  58. DBS Says:

    Hog the only one that calls him Mr 5000 is you. Now go put on your Black and Gold Winston Jersey.

  59. adam from ny Says:

    bucs 1987:

    no but that payton has a sneaky face and a smirky smile 🙂

  60. Buc1987 Says:

    Dumbest fan base ever.

    Sooooo they just paid Winston 5 million dollars to look at our playbook.

    Do you people realize how dumb that sounds?

  61. adam from ny Says:

    payton to jameis:

    “yeah come see me kid…and bring your playbook”

  62. Youngbucs Says:

    Ndog or worst case Jameis has to start and continues to wet the bed. But that not 1 of your options right???? Best believe at some he will see the field again and he better be ready. Because the excuses are running dry ✌🏽

  63. ©MadMax Says:

    A 1 year intel deal….and JW is gonna be “ballin” out that intel.

    Saints, PLEASE play him against us so we can get 10 turnovers in 2 games.

  64. adam from ny Says:

    when payton and jameis met breaking social distancing:

    jameis: “thanks for seeing me sir”

    payton: “just run the playbook now son”

  65. What da buc going on round here Says:

    Wow! Did Jameis tinkle in some of your coffees this morning! All he did was come here and try! Endured a lot of hate while trying too hard to make this team a winner. This past year, he learned a new offense and was told to keep throwing it up there. He did. He threw a lot of touchdowns, put up a lot of yards and interceptions. All because he was told to keep slinging it. Well, he’s gone now, you should be happy you haters, you got your wish.

    As for me! Good luck Jameis! Thank you for trying. I wish you nothing but the best!

  66. adam from ny Says:


    come on dude…jameis is like a male bimbo…good for one thing only…his playbook

    🙂 🙂 🙂

  67. NJBucsFan Says:

    87 it’s part of the game. Gathering intelligence. Brate even shared how the Saints grabbed him of waivers his rookie year for details of the offense. This move will separate the Bucs fans from the wINsTon fanboys.

  68. SkBucsFan Says:

    “Turned down a more lucrative offer”.
    Lol…who said that??? Winston? Ya. That sounds legit. Hahahahaha.

  69. Ndog Says:

    From Ian Rapport:

    “As the #Saints and FA QB Jameis Winston close in on a 1-year deal, worth noting Winston turned down a more lucrative offer elsewhere to learn from some of the best. The former #Bucs starter put the emphasis on his future in a smart choice.”

  70. Jean Lafitte Says:

    New Orleans is practically in Winston’s backyard. He could almost drive to work from his childhood home.

  71. BuckyLove Says:

    When Bridgewater had his brief run as a starter at NO, I thought he was well coached. They kept him on a short leash and did not let him attempt things beyond his capabilities. And with the rest of team performing it worked and he won. It will be interesting to see what they can do with Jameis.

  72. rhenry Says:

    How ironic it would be if Brees got hurt and Jameis lead the Saints to the super bowl in Tampa. Wow.

  73. DoooshLaRue Says:

    Payton has butthole lips.

  74. LetsTalkSuperBowl Says:

    There are 287 days until the 2021 Super Bowl.

    Its time to talk about not only the playoffs, but the ever-so-elusive Super Bowl.

    The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are IN IT TO WIN IT in 2020.

    Lets get down to business, talk about what MATTERS, the games!

    13. Minnesota Vikings (home): Win
    12. Carolina Panthers (home/away): Win x2
    11. Denver Broncos (away): Win
    10. Los Angeles Chargers (home): Win
    9. Las Vegas Raiders (away): Win in Vegas
    8. Los Angeles Rams (home): Win
    7. Detroit Lions (away): Win
    6. Chicago Bears (away): Win
    5. Atlanta Falcons (home/away): Win x2
    4. New York Giants (away): Win
    3. Green Bay Packers (home): Toss up
    2. New Orleans Saints (home): Split
    1. Kansas City Chiefs (home): Toss up

    Record 13-3

  75. Bucco Edd Says:

    What is this talk about karma? How did the Bucs wrong Winston? They set him and his family up for life, gave him every chance to be the franchise, even offered him 25 million for next year.

    Winston and his guys are the ones that burned bridges.

  76. bucnole Says:

    There is still a fair chance we don’t even see a full season if at all

  77. adam from ny Says:

    with our luck we go into december neck and neck with the saints for the division, and both old men qbs are on the shelf…

    with jameis and gabbert starting…

    with a winner takes the division game on sunday night football…

    yeah gabbert…

    aww geez

  78. adam from ny Says:

    it will be a fanless season…

    as weird as wrestling…

    covid is with us for a long time

  79. Alanbucsfan Says:

    What’s that”NOOOOOOOOOOOO….,” I’m hearing floating in from the Gulf of Mexico

  80. DBS Says:

    Yes but you can count on Jameis to throw a pick 6 to end the game. Bucs win.

  81. El_Buc941 Says:

    Joe who was the other team that he turned down? It had to be someone bad…jets?Washington? Im betting it was one of those two.

  82. Adrnagy Says:

    I’ll praying. For us to have a long term solution at QB. I would hate to see Winston lighting it up for saints the next 10 yrs while we suck.

  83. #1bucfan Says:

    So this is pretty normal now. Not saying we should have kept him but if he does pull it all together for the saints that’s going to bite us in the ass. With TB we have a legit shot at a SB but he’s 43. He’s not our future. What happens in 2 years when he retires what we going to bring in Aaron Rogers next?

  84. Youngbucs Says:


  85. adam from ny Says:

    arians wanted a taysom hill type…

    now he can have him…

    since payton no longer wants him for 4.7 mil…

    they gave his on the table money to jameis

  86. Joe in Michigan Says:

    I’m happy for Jameis, and wish him the best of luck in all future endeavors.

  87. Bucsalltheway Says:

    Gerald mccoy 2.0 lemme guess hes a bucs for life too lol

  88. WestChap Says:

    This is a HUGE win… for the Bucs. Why?

    1) Taysom Hill was already on edge with NO trading up to take his successor… because they knew that was Bruce’s pick. Now, his low cost replacement as gadget is on the team and he’s got high profile vet blocking his path to replace Brees. Hill unloved = Bucs win

    2) If Brees goes down, in trots JW who always starts… ICE COLD. How many picks to open a game? Or, if he replaces Brees for an extended period and gets into a high pressure, game in the line scenario late you can count on… PICK 6 for “the other team”. Bucs being “the other team” against Jameis = Bucs win

    Love this move… our odds just improved against a rival for 2 games in our SB run. I will really be bummed if this is just a sign and dump… the contract will tell. If Saints can dump him after training camp with only $1-2M out of pocket, I’ll be sad… for us.

  89. Darin Says:

    The Aints have a way of cheating the cap every year. Had 3 mil to begin with and signed one guy for over 10 a yr. Then signed Jenkins and Sanders etc. Wouldnt doubt if Winston got 10 mil. They’ll move some numbers around. They show me every year the cap can be manipulated until you wana stop spending

  90. Formerly Tampa 2 Says:

    I see everyone saying Winston is being paid 5 mil for one year. Can that be verified? After all, the QB that they love was only offered 4.7 mil. I do believe
    that they are signing him for the play book. Good luck with that Payton! And how about all you newly formed Buc haters going to a site and
    blast Payton for not starting your beloved QB.

  91. Jordan L Says:

    Haha stupid sucs fanbase. This is hilarious! About to reap the whirlwind you dumb arses

  92. Jeebs the Honey Bear Says:

    Lol @Ndog. Jameis is going to be #3 in New Orleans.

    Best case scenario: Brees gets injured, Winston goes in and starts throwing picks, crushing any chances the Saints had.

    Worst case scenario: Brees gets injured, Winston goes in and starts throwing picks, crushing any chances the Saints had.

    Only one scenario which sees Jameis play! Most likely is that Brees stays healthy, Winston maybe plays a few snaps in garbage time, and then they offer Winston another contract to compete with a high draft pick QB or another FA next year. If Winston were to ever start for the Saints, the Bucs will benefit.

  93. adam from ny Says:

    “ndog puppers” is leaving the site and gonna jump on over to a saints page and lick sweaty cajun keesters …


  94. ClodHopper Says:

    Sean is scared of the goat and needs some inside info on Arians offense. But the jokes on him. When Brady throws a check down Sean will ask Jameis about it and he’ll just shrug his shoulders and say he never saw anything like that in the playbook.

  95. Ndog Says:

    BTW Pittsburgh was one of the other teams that offered him a contract.

    So I guess you guys think the Bucs are better a organization than Pittsburgh or New Orleans now?

    You all do realize we are majorly screwed and Bruce Arians probably just sign our death warrant for the next decade.

  96. BrianBucs Says:

    We all knew that Winston would spend the rest of his career as a journeyman backup.
    And so it begins………

  97. Doctor Stroud Says:

    It’s the domino effect: there are reports that the Saints were interested in Jordan Love. The Packers drafted him higher than the Saints were willing. I honestly expected JW to be signed by the Iggles and probably would have gone there had it not been for Jalen Hurts. The NFL trend now (in a copy cat league) is to have at least two starting caliber QBs on the roster as insurance against injury, illness, etc. The Bucs are going against the trend. What happens if TB12 goes down?

  98. Bobbo Says:

    People cheering for Jameis to beat the Bucs need to just leave. You aren’t Bucs fans anymore.

    I’m looking forward to seeing him throw a few picks our way, if he ever sees the field.

  99. Ndog Says:

    After five years in the league one Drew Brees was cast off by his team after showing great promise and went on to play with the New Orleans Saints and being the all-time leading passer in the history of the NFL and winning a Super Bowl. I wonder if that sounds familiar to anybody?

  100. Ocala Says:

    I wanted the Bucs to resign Jamies, but Brady is clearly the superior QB for the Bucs to have over the next two years.

    However, Jamies has incredible talent, if N.O. can fix his turnovers the Bucs will be haunted by him for a long time.

  101. BigHog Says:

    Buc1987 …. BLACK-BALLED has been Debunked!!! MadMax….I’m a Boar-Hog with big nads…..DBS…I like BLACK AND GOLD and I like football so I just may get Nawleans jersey!!

  102. Dew Says:

    Saints jumped in front of Bucs yesterday to take a QB we had planned to draft. Peyton is a total dick.

  103. NJBucsFan Says:

    Saints just gave Taysom $16 m guaranteed. Wonder if this “working a contract” story was pushed by the Saints to push for Hill to sign that contract.

  104. Joseph Mamma Says:

    Ndog Says:
    April 26th, 2020 at 11:59 am
    After five years in the league one Drew Brees was cast off by his team after showing great promise and went on to play with the New Orleans Saints and being the all-time leading passer in the history of the NFL and winning a Super Bowl. I wonder if that sounds familiar to anybody?

    I thought Winston was the second coming of Peyton Manning? Now he is Drew Brees.

    Though I believe Brees was coming off a major shoulder injury and not cast off after leading the league in interceptions.

  105. Pa Privateer Says:

    Can’t wait for the 4th quarter Pick-6s

  106. ToesOnTheLine!!! Says:

    If the Steelers were actually interested I think that would have been a better place for him to sign in 2020. Brees is older than Ben, but outside of a fluke injury last season he usually doesn’t miss many games. Big Ben seems to be hurt more often, and that was a pretty serious elbow injury last season, therefore Jameis would have maybe had a better shot to see play time and improve his stock for a bigger contact than whatever he might get after one year holding a clipboard in 2020. Seems like more of an attempt to stick it to the “ex-girlfriend” vs. looking out for his long term finances if he legitimately had other options. Again this is all predicated on whether there were actually any other suitors besides the Saints.

  107. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Jameis has quite an adjustment to make…….crablegs to crawfish……

  108. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    man I AM HAPPY

    The Winston defense force can now stop being bucs fans and start being saints fans. Good for them.

  109. HarlemBuc Says:

    I’m not afraid of Jameis’ wrath lol
    He’s going to try to do too much, force the ball down the field and into defenders hands like he did here… matter of fact he’s already been throwing it to Saints players for years… bet you he completes more passes to Bucs receivers in his New Uniform…
    And if you’re rooting for anyone not in a Bucs jersey you can walk the plank too

  110. Im tired and 87 is right Says:

    If Saints get home for cheap why didn’t we just do the same and have Jameis backup Brady? Oh that’s right the fans ran him out of town. Hopefully it doesn’t come back to haunt us. Go Bucs!

  111. Doctor Stroud Says:

    @Dew: totally agree! But now, the Bucs are in his head! Tommy Stevens, Mississippi State’s QB > America’s QB?

  112. Jersey buc Says:

    Big Jameis fan backed him for 5 years. He’s got a ton of talent. Dude just cannot stop keeping the other teams in the games.

  113. Allbuccedup Says:

    Peyton is going to use voodoo to rid Winston of his interceptions.

  114. Elita Vita Says:

    Ever think that Winston might be wearing a Super Bowl ring with that clip board next year?

  115. Jersey buc Says:

    If he was willing to take back up money he should just stayed in Tampa. He thought he was worth more. This is a panic signing by Jameis. Really like him and backed him for 5 years but the turnovers man just kill morale week after week 3-5 picks a game. Just can’t win that way

  116. Iamabuc Says:

    Wow..I hope that our platton of corners and safeties learn quick….otherwise, when we play the Saints; Jameis can easily light up the scoreboard on our ass……you need to remember he threw for 5,000 yards, and the Saints Online is not the Bucs Online..
    You guys can laught all you want , but you now that’s a reality.

  117. HomerSimpsonRocks Says:

    He had plenty of other lucrative offers. Suuuuure.

  118. Ken G. Says:

    Gabbert made $1.6M last year as Bucs back-up. Winston, after the Saints pick allocation, will be around $2.0-2.5M. That is where he is right now — cheap insurance.

    That said, it is probably the first smart thing Winston’s idiot set of advisors (and Winston himself) has had him do since he was in Tally. He needs a new narrative. If Teddy has a good year, he sets himself up to be the new Teddy reclamation project even if he plays very little. And if Brees shocks the world and retires (like he almost did in January), then he gets to tr and beat out Hill.

    Funny that Marriota getting paid about 2x what Winston is — and Mariotta got benched.

  119. Bucsfan951 Says:

    Cast off as if he lead the league in ints since entering it at that point. Here is something for your reading pleasure.

    “Dislocated right shoulder. Probably the worst thing that could ever happen to a quarterback,” Brees said at the National Athletic Trainers’ Association convention this summer. “The next thing I think, it’s probably the last time I ever put on a Charger uniform, and then it registers, it might be the last time I ever put on a football uniform of any significance.”

    The injury was extensive enough. Brees had dislocated his shoulder through the bottom of the joint — a one-in-500 injury, he’d be told later — suffered a 360-degree tear of his labrum and a 50-percent tear of his rotator cuff.

    Written by joel Erickson at

    So yes, the chargers probably did the right thing and move on from the young qb. Brees is a freak and was able to recover from that major injury.

  120. Jersey buc Says:

    Just trying to see if am signed in or not

  121. Iamabuc Says:

    …and it’s not like he won’t have any weapons over there….

  122. bucshot Says:

    I think her name is “KARMA”…………….

  123. DavidBigBucsFan99 Says:

    At least some fans with a little class showed up on this one. More people wishing him well showed up than expected. It’s always been a shame that so many people took things he did do personal as if he did things to them or their families. One thing Jameis always showed is he loved his team, team mates coaches and fans. He tried his best to win for us but things he didn’t pan out. You people act like he wanted to turn the ball over so much so that we’d lose. Then there are the real bottom of the barrel haters who call him a bust. Answer me this smart guys, how can a bust come in and score 130+ tds and break pretty much every qb record on a team in 5 years many standing for 20 years? Josh Freeman broke the td record and Jameis came in and quickly broke that. Now before the real losers up here call me an apologist, please get out of here with your weak crap. I’m far from that. He lost his job because of the turnovers, being way too confident in his abilities and being a little departed from the true realism of the situation.

    It’s funny the people up here blame Jameis for every loss on a team sport but if Tom Brady comes in and doesn’t get it done you same people will say that it isn’t all his fault. That’s the hypocrisy of the fans of this board.

    One day IF he figures out the rest of the game he’s missing and Brady doesn’t win the Superbowl in the next 2 years the way so many people and our fans are shooing us in for now, him going to the Saints will be the nail in the coffin on Arians legacy. What better person to learn from than the GOAT who has more Super Bowl appearances and wins than Brees??? Jameis should be Brady’s back up not Gabbert. He knows this offense better than anyone.

  124. Jersey buc Says:

    If he was going to back up a vet he should of just stayed in Tampa. He thought he was going to get a starting gig. Big Jameis backer but man you can not keep the other team in it every other game. Totally kills morale when dude throwing 3-5 picks every other game.

  125. Dewey Selmon Says:

    we should start a go fund me campaign for Deion Jones. If Jameis leads us to a TD and we finish 8-8 Jameis isn’t a Saint and Brady might not be here.

  126. Christos Says:

    Fellow Bucs fans, i think is time to move on. We drafted Winston 1st overall i was hoping he was going to be our Qb for 15 years just like i was hoping Freeman will be. It did not work here, he had 5 years and honestly i did not see much if any progression. I wish him well but i not care if he will have success or not with the next team and i not care if he goes to NO he can do what he wants is his right. I am a Bucs fan not a players fan. Just give this a rest already. Let it go

  127. Timbucs2 Says:

    If he gets a chance to play, it will be interesting to see if the eye surgery helps him to identify which team he is throwing it to.

  128. runnerdoc Says:

    Jameis has never played for an organization that valued taking care of the ball. 5 years of having Jamieis push the ball further down the field, more often, than any QB in football. Management (and fans) put it all on him, as it suits their narrative. With management, it protects their jobs, despite their failures. Now, he’s working for an excellent organization and coach that protects the football at the highest of levels while being a Superbowl contender. Good move for Jameis. Now, will he succeed? I have no idea. Does he have a better chance than the haters believe? Absolutely no question.

  129. Patrickbucs Says:

    Ndog Says:
    April 26th, 2020 at 11:30 am
    From Ian Rapport:

    “As the #Saints and FA QB Jameis Winston close in on a 1-year deal, worth noting Winston turned down a more lucrative offer elsewhere to learn from some of the best. The former #Bucs starter put the emphasis on his future in a smart choice.”

    Yeah agent speak? Yeah your dialed in. 2 of my best friends born and raised in Orleans are like WTF? Eating W’s, was at game and still get made fun, if he’s relevant I’ll be happy to give it back to them.

    Also ND? Why is T Hill getting paid more?

  130. Patrickbucs Says:

    I wish him good luck.

  131. Mike Johnson Says:

    Laugh all you like. The Saints signed the best backup in our conference. You better pray Brady does not go down. Because our backups truly suck.

  132. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    This is PRICELESS!!! I am SOOOO enjoying reading the Winston-FSUers STILL trying to prop up America’s Groper as a great QB……WELL……Enjoy rooting for the Saints, NDOG!!!! And a special thanks to JOE for providing this entertainment ……FOR FREE !!!! WOOOHOOO!!!!

  133. DaBux Says:

    It would be just too sweet to see Suh or Vea intercept Jameis and get a pick 6.

  134. Bradley Says:

    This news is just devastating. Any long-time fan can see how this plays out. It feels so scripted.

  135. JimmyJack Says:

    Wow I just read every comment. I just can’t believe that not one person mentions how good this is for us fans. Winston will be holding a clipboard people. We won’t have to think or worry about him now. He will be a nonfactor. This will be a very good and healthy way for us to move on from Winston. Sure, things could change with a injury but we don’t have to worry about that for a long time………..I am very surprised Jameis did not find a team that would let him compete for a starting job…….In the end this might be the best situation for him. Learn behind a great and reset his career. I wonder if that was a factor in his decision?…….Anyways this is defientally good news for long suffering Bucs fans.

    GO BUCS!!!!

  136. donuts Says:

    Tayson Hill just signed a 2 year 21 million deal. This may not happen unless Winston plays for league min. I think he signs somewhere else.

  137. Youngbucs Says:

    Please football gods let Winston start for the aints. Winston will be further exposed than it will be Peyton can’t coach then the saints d sucks then the saints are a bad organization. The excuses will never stop

  138. donuts Says:

    I think Payton may have been using Winston to get Hill to sign his deal.

  139. Ndog Says:

    You people are scared sh!tless and you know it. The Saints have been whooping our a$$ for years and we just gave them the key to keep doing for another decade. Arains is the worst thing that ever happened to this organization.


  140. kyle Says:

    bum, who cares

  141. Smashsquatch Says:

    Jameis’ ship sailed long ago. He was never a backup option here and the feeling was mutual. His consistent inconsistency as a pro explains why no team was willing to make him a starter nor pay him top dollar as a backup.

  142. JimmyJack Says:

    NDog…..Actually I’m least scared of the Saints heading into this year then I have been in quite some time. And that’s because of the moves that Arians made.

    You are out of your mind bro.

  143. Solo Nolo Says:

    Hello Tampa Bay Bucs fans. I was never a Tampa Fan just a FSU fan who started cheering for Tampa after they signed Jameis. I never paid much attention to the Bucs and like most fans I always thought of them as a poorly run organization. This Jameis situation confirms why the Bucs are a joke and have not made the playoffs in such a long time. You sign a 43 year old quarterback who is long past his prime (Bill Belichick knew this which is why he let him go) instead of your young #1 draft pick. Yes Jameis threw a lot of interceptions but he also threw a lot of touch downs and he has never been surrounded by a good team (offensive line, running game, good defense). Sean Payton’s decision to sign him confirms why the Saints have won a Super Bowl recently and consistently make the playoffs. They are a well run organization. Jameis will be the starter once Brees retires and win a title like he did in college. I am now a Saints fan so I will stop by to laugh at you when over the hill Tom Brady does not lead you to a Super Bowl then retires and the Bucs continue to be the joke of the NFL. To the fans who supported Jameis and gave him a fair chance my respect (N Dog I like your style) . For the fans who never gave him a chance because he is black (and there a lot of them although they will never admit it) keep hating. Obama was still the President for 8 years, trump is still a moron, players still have the right to protest, rap music is still popular, and black is still beautiful !

  144. Rick Says:

    Pretty sure this is to learn the intricacies of the BA offense.

  145. Ndog Says:

    JimmyJack keep telling yourself that buddy. Like usual you’re full of sh!t, as you know this is the worst possible outcome. But you wanted him gone now we ALL have the deal with the consequences. Again best case scenario for us, he is just a backup for our main competition for the division where as our backup is Blaine Gabbert. Are you kidding me 😂😂😂😂

  146. Ndog Says:

    If thats true JimmyJack then you are more CLUELESS than I thought.

  147. JimmyJack Says:

    NDog it said he signed a one year contract. How is that the worst possible outcome? Let me know when he signs up to be their starter.

    In the meantime we have a upgrade at QB here.

    So your telling me I should be scared of the 2022 Saints because they just signed Winston as a one year backup? How do you even begin to think that makes sense?

  148. Bucsfan77 Says:

    Sweet does this means NO is gonna suck for the next 5 years?

  149. JimmyJack Says:

    NDog proclaiming the Saints are setup for a decade because they signed a backup to a one year deal. Bro you are soft in the head.

  150. JimmyJack Says:

    Like I said I am happy Winston signed this deal because he is now a backup. He is a irrevelant player in the league for 31 franchises. Including the Bucs.

    This is good news for us fans who have been totally divided about Winston.

  151. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    NolaDog just ain’t let’n go….poor guy is probably hen pecked and comes here to try and be right

  152. stravenite Says:

    Latest News – Hill signs his new 2 year deal for $21 mill, JW is just a playbook move – really quite sad his demise, are the saints posturing to sign JW to get Hill to sign his tender ?

  153. Jordan L Says:

    Amen, NDog. These sucs are wetting themselves. Lolololol

  154. SickofLosing Says:

    Interesting stat,
    Winston has more completions to saints than Hill
    10-7 🤣🤣🤣
    Good riddance

  155. Tampabuscsbro Says:


    Man the Winston defense force is going to be wearing saints gear rooting for them week one.

  156. Youngbucs Says:

    ^^^^^^ lol

  157. Youngbucs Says:

    Ndog said the saints are set for 10 years lol he’s a lunatic 😂😂😂😂😂

  158. geno711 Says:

    Ndog Says:
    April 26th, 2020 at 1:44 pm
    You people are scared sh!tless and you know it. The Saints have been whooping our a$$ for years and we just gave them the key to keep doing for another decade. Arains is the worst thing that ever happened to this organization.

    So if Jameis is the key to a future more of whippings by the Saints, why did the Saints give Taysom Hill 21 million TODAY with 16 MILLION guaranteed TODAY.

    If they were so sure about Jameis, don’t you think he would be the one getting higher guaranteed money.

    Sure they see some value in Winston but really it is not that much. They might be happily surprised in 6 months or a year so you have a chance in retrospect to be correct. However, if they really thought they had the goods with Winston, they would have given more guaranteed to Winston than Taysom Hill.

  159. Check your sheet Says:

    God I hope Jameis gets in against the Bucs! Our defensive backs will surely hit bonuses due to interceptions and defensive lineman will get sacks to boost theirs. Go Bucs and do what you do best America’s turnover machine.

  160. Youngbucs Says:

    Ndog Jameis is 3rd string but it’s ok you can poke your chest out

  161. Check your sheet Says:

    Lil Pup (Ndog). Move to who dat town and never post on this website again. I don’t read your mindless rants about your boyfriend anyway. Go Bucs!

  162. Bucsfan77 Says:

    What da buc going on round here Says:
    April 26th, 2020 at 11:26 am
    Wow! Did Jameis tinkle in some of your coffees this morning! All he did was come here and try! Endured a lot of hate while trying too hard to make this team a winner. This past year, he learned a new offense and was told to keep throwing it up there. He did. He threw a lot of touchdowns, put up a lot of yards and interceptions. All because he was told to keep slinging it. Well, he’s gone now, you should be happy you haters, you got your wish.

    As for me! Good luck Jameis! Thank you for trying. I wish you nothing but the best!

    Willing to bet he was told to keep slinging it because he refused to listen to coaches and after 3rd game it was already decided they was moving on from him.

  163. Knuckle Sandwich Delivery Service Says:

    Deal with the consequences. This NDog character is a certified drama queen. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it this bad from anybody. JDS is just as bad as TDS.

  164. Afo Says:

    Jamies Winston move of just to help them with Bucs playbook, they just gave Taysom Hill $21M and $16M guaranteed

  165. Bird Says:

    Ndog calling people clueless is hilarious

    If the saints wanted him long term, they would have gotten on discount for multiple years

    Taysom hill is their guy for the future
    The fans love him too. Some hoping even brees would not come back for another year.
    Jameis will not be there 10 years

    And if he gets to play against bucs…no question he will continue to throw to buc players. So win win.

    “Saints are set up for 10years “ and he is calling people clueless

    Nog – answer my question …if i buy you a jameis saints jersey will you go away forever ? We dont need yah here and yah just dont take the hint so i will help out the cause a spend some good money on the jersey you really wAnt.

  166. Tompa Says:

    Lol the ONLY reason they signed him is to get information on the Bucs.
    Defensive schemes offensive information. Just wanting Winston to divulge anything that may give the Saints an edge. This isn’t in any way about Winston taking over for Brees or a reclamation project for him lol.

  167. Hethrew 30 Says:

    Here comes another round by the Winston nuthuggers, who for some oddball reason held out hope that somehow Winston would come back as the #2 QB, and then take over again a year or two from now, or they were hoping true NFL star Tom Brady goes down. Now they are all butt hurt again because the reality is setting in. So they will bash the coaches, fans, and owners, and GM for being so stupid and not letting Winston continue here. They are crushed. Let’s be clear: The only thing all of the above were stupid at was bringing in Winston the first time. Also, the Saints have very little cap space, and it’s a one year deal, so the Saints aren’t exactly feeling any certainty about what they have. Truth be told, I’ve said for two years now that Winston is really pretty solid back-up material, will never be the face of any franchise, and doesn’t deserve to be paid big. Jameis 1of1, aka July Joe, are the laughing stocks of the sports world. EVERYONE is wrong but them. LOL! I’d not use my real name either in writing such BS about Winston. On an even more positive note, Winston may be able to throw to Bucs receivers for a change.

  168. Solo Nolo Says:

    N Dog you are 100% correct. Keep fighting the good fight !

  169. Hethrew 30 Says:

    Taysom Hill just signed a 2-year, $21M deal for the Saints. Winston may get a few million for one year, but this is hardly a gig he wanted. And now we hear reports that Oh, he turned down a bigger deal because he wanted to be with the best. Looks like another Winston BS line. When he faces reality, he may be a better football player and person. How far he has fallen–all due to his own doing. He had it it all here, and threw it away.

  170. Hethrew 30 Says:

    What kind of idiot even thinks the Bucs should sign Winston as a backup here? I can’t believe some of these comments. Winston was a cancer here, and he’s gone. No reason anyone wants him back. They probably wrestled his suite key from him before he left just to make sure they don’t see him again.

  171. tbbucs3 Says:

    Saw someone say QB Tommy Stevens > Winston….

    Are we that dumb as a fanbase orrrr?????

  172. Bird Says:

    Payton just said taysom is back up to brees
    So taysom get 2 year 21 mil deal (literally just happened)
    He is qb 2

    But yah jameis is their qb of the next decade
    Ndog wrong again

  173. Youngbucs Says:

    Tbbucs3 another nut hugger acting like a bucs fan 😂

  174. MDFree Says:

    I’ll have to go back into the archives to find when I called this months ago.

  175. zorro Says:

    He’s playing it smart. When Brees leaves, he will be the Saints QB for 10 years.

  176. mark2001 Says:

    The question is, can he beat out hill and be active on Sunday. And will he lead the second or third team squad in practice.

    And before you hit me on that, remember. He barely beat out Fitz… in fact, if Fitz could have kept it rolling a few more games, Jameis might have been cemented to the bench.

  177. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    I think Jameis will do much better in New Orleans, in a west coast offense, with a real running game.
    Not only will their O Line protect him better, but because their Defense is better, he will not be playing from 20 points behind, as he was for part of the time when he was in Tampa.
    Yes, for 25 Million, I would rather have Tom Brady vs Jameis, but I still think that under the right circumstances Jameis is an NFL Starting QB. I guess we will all find out, if Brees goes down.
    Since The Saints are in our division, I hope I am wrong.

  178. MDFree Says:

    Solo Nolo formerly known as NOSBOS??? I may be late.

  179. christina olive Says:

    I love Jameis and I’m hoping he can prove himself to be valuable in NO. Good for him!

  180. Youngbucs Says:

    Y’all keep talking about real running gm and defense. The bottom line is his decision making is horrible it’s that simple. He can have the best running and defense in the league he will still turn the ball over its his nature. Maybe it will final click for him and he gets it.

  181. QueenBB Says:

    Woah Winston was a cancer here??? lol wow ok

  182. Howard Cosell Says:

    Oh Shizzle!!
    He’s Baaaack

    Howard predicted long ago that WInston would get the last laugh.
    Once Winston fixws the impatience he’ll be deadly……LOL too ironic
    if he is the heir apparent to The Breesus.

    Seriously….. it’s the Bucs, it’s what they do. Nothing has changed since Steve Young was shamed out of town

    LOL….serves the Glazers right

  183. Tc Says:

    I can only imagine how good he’ll be on a playoff team with good defense and Superior running back

  184. Howard Cosell Says:

    LOL hardcore Winston hates are quaking

  185. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    Yes nothing winston ever did was his fault.

    You guys should really stop riding this bad QB.

  186. Patrickbucs Says:

    Ndog Says:
    April 26th, 2020 at 1:44 pm
    You people are scared sh!tless and you know it. The Saints have been whooping our a$$ for years and we just gave them the key to keep doing for another decade. Arains is the worst thing that ever happened to this organization.


    Was there when FitsMagic won and got himself in the HOF, where Uber Winston was at home paying off yet another lawsuit for something he never did..

  187. Afo Says:

    The 112 points from his TO last season was Litch and Arians mistake, he led the league in TO since he was drafted, I wish him nothing but joy but we got an upgrade of him, he’s the third sting QB

  188. mark2001 Says:

    So howard…getting 5 mil a year as a NFL clipboard holder, and likely leader of the third team squad, inactive on Sundays, is the last laugh? That is laughable.

  189. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    LOL I love how the winston defenders are so deluded you guys really think both women that he has to send checks to every month both lied.

    Yes Winston is just the unluckiest guy in the world multiple false allegations, He did everything perfectly it was just his team.

  190. mark2001 Says:

    Oh I get it…Jameis is a third string QB on another team, likely inactive on Sunday, and leader of the third team practice squad is a “told you so” moment? If he wanted to be somewhere and prove himself, wouldn’t he have asked for 20 mil plus incentives, or 15 plus incentives, and played in the same system with the QB whisperer? No. This is a hope to rehabilitate his reputation, hoping if Brees gets hurt, Hill faulters. The “other offer talk”? Gas.

  191. Buc4evr Says:

    For the money Winston is about accept from the Saints, the Bucs should try to resign him as a back-up so he can learn from Brady. If Brady goes down the Bucs have nobody. Steve Young, Doug Williams, Trent Dilfer – history repeats itself.

  192. JimmyJack Says:

    At the end of the day the Bucs upgraded at QB. With Winson signing on to be a backup we can now focus on our team and our QB. This is great because we don’t gotta look over our shoulders and don’t have to compare Tom to anybody.

    For those saying he is the long-term solution to replacing Bress let’s just pull the reigns in on that. Needless to worry about that after a one year backup deal. Your looking way to far into the future. We shall revisit that idea next year when Winston is a free agent again. Too many factors at play with that narritive……..Mainly Bress himself and Sean Payton. Do you know today that Bress is retiring? How do you know Paytonnstays in New Orleans(there was speculation this year of him moving elsewhere if Drew retires)…….Bottom line is you are looking way to far into the future. A one year backup job necessarily means next to nothing for the long-term plans of the Saints.

    To Ndogs point that we are scared. That’s just a pure boneheaded point after a one year backup deal. Now if Bress retires and Winston gets paid 30M to take over next year then I will admitt Ie be a little nevous about that……..But only of Sean Payton is still running the show………of course I would not be at all nervous about the 2021 season because it would be Tom vs Jameis. Hands down I would give us the edge in that matchup………But thats way too much factors that all have to fall perfectly into place and it’s way too much guesswork and future predicting to worry about Winston being their franchise QB in 2022……. And that’s even saying that Tom is retired by then which is just another guess………So to worry about a possible Winston led Saints beating us in 2023 is completely ridiculous……And yet again it’s predicting that we don’t sign or develope our own QB who could shred Winston.

    A lot could happen in 2-3 years. Not to mention in one year in the NFL. Any predictions based off a one year backup deal are wild guesses at best.

  193. JimmyJack Says:

    END RANT***

  194. Formerly Tampa 2 Says:

    Notice that the saints just gave tayson 21 million 2 yr contract. So much for Winston taking over for Brees.

  195. mark2001 Says:

    Buc4…what the heck? If he had approached Licht/Arians and said he was sincere about cleaning up the Ints, would accept 15 mil. with incentives, and wanted to stay here, he might have had a chance for another year here…until Brady came into the picture. Any chance of him being here in the future sailed in the offseason.

  196. mark2001 Says:

    And T2… They are pretty tight against the cap. So who do they restructure or cut to get Jameis a decent contract?

  197. Admiral Redbeard Says:

    I’m praying Jameis somehow starts against us, so we can break the record for interceptions in a single game. Maybe then npup will shut his stupid mouth about how great Jameis is.

  198. Ndog Says:

    You people are so freaking scared it is pitaful. Not me I knew this day was coming and now it’s just a matter of time before our team is run into the ground just like the Cardinals were. In 3 years when the Saints are setup for their next 10 year run of dominance we will be sitting here looking for our QB yet again. Bruce Arians has screwed us for a two year shot of making himself look great. But go ahead and trust this lying, selfish, egotistical fraud while he’s here but remember when he’s gone he will have burnt this to the ground and we still have to live here while he goes on not giving two sh!ts about this franchise.

  199. Ivan The Insider Says:


    So many people keep posting wondering why the Bucs didn’t sign Winston to be the backup to Brady. It’s pretty simple…

    Winston would be too much of a distraction. Many of his diehard fans would be chanting for him to come into the game at any mistake Brady ever made or any struggle the team ever has. The Bucs front office knows this and I’m sure wanted to avoid it.

    Also by signing Brady the Bucs are ready for a New Chapter and moving on from the Winston Era. And at the same time, giving Winston a chance to move-on to a new chapter for his football career as well.

  200. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Jameis basically has a tryout ,rumored deal….if he does not earn the #2 QB spot he’ll be out on the street again

  201. Tye Says:

    LoL.. Hard!

    The Saints traded into the 7th round for a QB and just resigned Hill…
    This may just be a camp arm contract… This was to be expected… Can be make the 53 man roster… We’ll see!

  202. Patrickbucs Says:

    Well at least Winston is able to pay more money to his victims.

    NDOG what’s the guarantee Winston received? Is it incentive laden? Just nudge him and let us know.

  203. DBS Says:

    Ndog we are not scared. Only a nuthugger like you could come up with that. It is Saints fans that are scared if anyone is!!!

  204. Ivan The Insider Says:

    The Mighty NDOG!

    Here to tell us all we’re “clueless” and “morons” because we were glad to move on from Winston and all his inconsistency.


    These are some of the choice bits of wisdom that Ndog actually stated (some paraphrased but very close to his statements)…

    “Mike Evans is an overrated receiver. He’s not that good.”

    “I went back and watched the season and analyzed all of Winston’s 30 INTs. I have come to the conclusion that most of them were only because opposing Defenses disguised their coverages.”

    *An idiot not to realize that’s what NFL Defenses actually try to do.

    “How would we ever replace these guys in the next 2-3 years… Brady, Gronk, Suh, JPP, Jensen, LVD.”

    *Too dumb to realize that Free Agency is a massive part of the NFL and almost all of those players he mentioned were simply signed as FAs. Power of the checkbook. Gronk was a unique trade of sorts and we drafted LVD, but Ndog thinking we could only replace key starters in the Draft exposes him as an idiot.

    And today’s latest gem…

    “Arians signed our death warrant for the next decade.”

    *A reference to us being screwed for the next 10 years just because we didn’t resign a 100+ turnover QB who was wildly inconsistent.


  205. Rod Munch Says:

    “Rod Munch Says:
    March 18th, 2020 at 9:30 pm
    …Or worse he goes to the Saints to be Brees backup and Payton grooms him… we have a decade plus of him killing us.”

    “Rod Munch Says:
    March 24th, 2020 at 11:53 pm
    …Worst thing possible would be Winston signing with the Saints… That idea just kills me. We finally get rid of Brees, maybe after this season, then Winston steps into Payton’s offense. Ugh, makes me sick to think about him killing our D for the next 15 years.”

  206. TexBuc Says:

    Winston was not signed by the Bucs and will never put on another Tampa jersey in a game. This will not be last time a player we drafted was kicked to the curb and played elsewhere. Some did well and others did not time to move on.

  207. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    Ndog who cares who our backup is? Unless your starter deflares balls again or sexually assaults his Uber driver they just hold clipboards.

    Every JW apologist starts with “if he turns it around”; well, he had his chance here. He did not. Stop throwing good money after bad.

  208. Rod Munch Says:

    BTW, to be clear I was for signing Brady, you don’t not sign the GOAT if you have the chance. The team is in win now mode, and the Bucs have a chance to do something very special…

    But why is Gabbert our backup? He stinks. After Winston said he can’t be mad at losing his job to the GOAT, the Bucs should have went full in on trying to convince Winston to stick around as the backup — not to mention there’s literally no one that knows this offense better than he does.

    That way if Brady suddenly looks his age or gets injured the season isn’t over – like it is with 2-14 Gabbert as the QB.

    To be clear, it would be a longshot since you have to overcome pride, and if the Bucs made the pitch and got rejected then I could live with that. But if the Bucs didn’t even pick up the phone… ugh.

    Anywho, the most Bucs thing every would be for Winston to sit in NO after this season and then put up 40 points a game vs Tampa twice a season for the next 15 years.

  209. BrianBucs Says:

    Cheap Journeyman Backup. PERIOD.

  210. Ndog Says:

    Everyone welcome Ivan the liar. Dude get a life and quick making me look good, cause I school you everytime little boy.

  211. Rod Munch Says:

    BrianBucs <- You're a retard. PERIOD.

  212. Ivan The Insider Says:


    So now suddenly Winston is starting for the Saints until he’s 41? LOL.

    He’ll probably never see the field. Hell, he may not even make the roster after training camp cuts.

  213. mark2001 Says:

    Don’t worry Rod…he already has had great coaching…and it was down the drain. So I expect nothing more than a glorified clipboard holder…after all, Hill is still the backup..isn’t he?

  214. Ivan The Insider Says:


    LOL. You aren’t schooling anyone. So are you trying to state that you DIDN’T say those idiotic things I posted? I’m sure we can go dig up your actual quotes and embarrass you further.

    I like you claim you ‘schooled’ me yet you never want to actually DEBATE issue. You never want to get into a discussion based on FACTS.

    Like everytime I smack you over the head with the facts that Fitzpatrick in 2018 when pro-rating his 7.5 starts (taking all good and bad) for an entire season he would have ended up with 4,900+ yards, 34 TDs/24 INTs, and avg. QB rating over 100 per game.

    This emphatically PROVES that Winston is nothing special. Another QB (a journeyman at that) put up the same “Big” numbers that Winston did in this stacked Offense.

  215. geno711 Says:

    @Ndog sure there is a chance that Winston can slot below quarterbacks who played for Tampa that won Superbowls. That is about it.

    1. Steve Young
    2. Doug Williams
    3. Trent Dilfer
    4. Brad Johnson
    5. Jameis Winston

  216. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    Ndog is literally the only one on this website aside from a few of the other nuthuggers that schools people.

  217. Ivan The Insider Says:


    I’ll give you this…

    You may actually be right that Winston goes on to win a Super Bowl win another team. The only difference is he’ll earn his ring while holding a clipboard.

  218. Ivan The Insider Says:

    Tampabucsbro – The same Ndog that said Evans was overrated and didn’t understand how Free Agency works and he was surprised Defenses disguised their coverages against Winston?


  219. Tye Says:

    He may not make it past camp cuts but if he does make the roster, since Hill is getting backup pAy, JW may be their gimmicky QB and that may be all he is good for!

  220. Destinjohnny Says:

    Guess who gets all our intel…
    Sean Payton that’s who

  221. Bucsalltheway Says:

    But in all seriousness Winston was brung in to compete with taysom hill he might get the young man booted but taysom has the edge qb/te.

  222. gotbbucs Says:

    Hopefully the Saints will go into the season overconfident in their defensive backs like the Bucs did for five years after watching them pick Winston off mercilessly during practice.

    Good for Winston, but I could give a sh!t less what happens to his career from here on out. He wasted the last two years of our football lives.

    You can cry all you want about bad karma, but you and your boy Jameis need to check his sheet on his own checkered past. Those stories from college and early pro weren’t just smoke made up by the media. Sure, he may have found Jesus now that he had a kid and was forced to settle down, but as it turns out, he really was a serial sex offender piece of sh!t before that.
    At least now you have a familiar team to switch to now. I look forward to you slinking back under your rock once the season starts and this team is winning. Don’t forget to hold the door open for your partner in denial, Adrnagy, as you both go down into that pit of despair.

  223. tbbucs3 Says:

    “I’m praying Jameis somehow starts against us, so we can break the record for interceptions in a single game.”

    Whos gonna catch the interceptions? Our DBs that have been utter garbage for the last 5 years?

  224. tbbucs3 Says:

    “He may not make it past camp cuts but if he does make the roster”.

    Winston is 100% making the team thats not even a question.

    Whos gonna take his place, Tommy Stevens? The guy who couldnt start at Penn State even after McSorely left and was totally average at Miss State.

    LOL at ppl acting like an run of the mill SEC QB is better than a heisman winner, BCS National Champion and someone who already has 80 NFL starts under his belt.


  225. Ivan The Insider Says:

    Look everyone it’s tbbucs3 back to post more negativity on the site.

    Dude, give it a rest.

  226. Rod Munch Says:

    Ivan – Here’s a fun fact in case you didn’t know, Winston just lead the NFL in passing, is only the 6th guy in the history of the league to throw for more than 5000 yards, just threw 30 TDs, owns every Buccaneers passing mark (outside of turnovers – which is owned by Vinny) and only just turned 26.

    If you literally think that equals no future, that’s complete nonsense.

    No one outside of Tampa has watched Winston as much as Sean Payton, and he’s the guy who wants him. Do you think that’s because Payton doesn’t know anything about QBs?

    To be clear, again, I’m good with the Brady signing. But this fake news idiocy that Winston isn’t a good QB is stupid and based on nothing other than some morons ignoring the overwhelming majority of good plays to highlight a few bad plays – and even then never putting them in context.

    Take the home games against the Saints. Winston throws 4 INTs… OMG, HE’S A BUST, HE LOST THE GAME!!! Oh wait, no he didn’t. First INT was a perfect pass to OJ that he dribbles around the world and eventually pops in the air, that was 100% on OJ. The 2nd INT, it’s the last play before the half, they’re trying to get into FG range, he throws the ball to Godwin, low, where only Godwin can get it around the Saints 20 yard line I believe, and Godwin somehow pops it straight in the air for an INT that ends the half. The pass was where you want it, where it can’t lead to a turnover, and yet Godwin somehow flips it up. Then the next INT, it’s 4th down and 10 I believe, ball was at the Bucs 30 or so, no one is open. Winston forces a throw, you know, because it’s 4th down – he’s trying to make a play because if he doesn’t the game is over. The ball is intercepted. Again, on 4th and 10 from his own 30 in the 4th quarter down by multiple scores. Is that a bad INT? Should he have taken the Mike Glennon/Derrick Carr route of just throwing it out of bounds? No. Finally the last INT was under a minute left, again on 4th down I believe, but he’s just trying to score and the Saints are sitting back playing the pass and get an INT. So the box score shows 4 INTs. Were any of those bad plays? No. Yet the box score morons think Winston threw the game away.

    It’s game after game after game of this. Winston took a team, which in the first half of the year was on pace for being the worst Bucs defense in the history of the team, and still they should have been 9-7 if the kicker makes his kicks. That’s the worst they should have been. If the refs don’t f the team over in Tennessee they’re 10-6. Are those in Winston’s control? If Mike and Godwin aren’t injured and we’re down to starting Justin Watson it’s really likely they win the Houston game as well (the game where Brate drops the easiest pass of his career on 4th down at the Houston 30 with 3 mins left in the game down by 3).

    Winston is going to be in the NFL for a very long time – I just hope it’s not in the NFC south since he will destroy this defense over and over and over again.

  227. Patrickbucs Says:

    Dude arguing over a freaking backup

  228. Ivan The Insider Says:


    Still attending… Ndog, tbbucs3, Adrnagy, Tampabuscsbro.

  229. JimmyJack Says:

    Bro exactually why do you think anybody is scared of a backup QB? It’s really the dumbest take I’ve heard in quite some time.

    Now if we get to next year and if the Bress retires and if Payton stays in New Orleans and if they hand Winston 30M to be be a starter then I could see a bit of timidness from Bucs fans. Not me though I will take the Tom side of Tom vs Winston all day. Do you not even see all them ifs that gotta happen or are you just soft in the head?

    So what are we scared of? Freaking moronic take

  230. The coroner Says:

    I would assign Jameis here as a back up for 3.75 million. If he learned anything under Brady after two years you can give him starting money.

  231. NPRSageBoy. Says:

    Wait a minute! If JayMiss holds the clipboard and never sees the field AND the Saints somehow win a SB title, does JayMiss get credit as a SB winner?

    Peace, out

  232. CPN Says:

    Gives me a really bad feeling to see Winston stay in the division.

    Good for him on getting another opportunity. Just wish he would have went to the Steelers.

  233. tbbucs3 Says:


    So your allowed to slam Jameis’s name but when I defend him its called being negative? You make no sense dude.

  234. Ivan The Insider Says:

    tbbucs3, you defend him by putting down OUR secondary? That makes no sense, dude.

  235. ATrain Says:

    First off. BucsFan you are a TOOL

    Second the BESt this guy can do is a one year back up deal —-And He said Check your sheets

    I checked Your sheets and they are Full of Crap just like your pants when you found out a One Year Backup deal is the best you can do

  236. Tampabuscsbro Says:


    When in god’s name did I ever defend Winston?

    When? No seriously I have been wanting to move on since the bucs panthers game in London. AND clowning on Ndog and the nut huggers this entire time.

    How in gods name am I on the Grief tour?

  237. JimmyJack Says:

    Ivan no matter to worry about these nugglers anymore. In the end the haters won and they lost. They can have their little fun(and trust me it’s little) about their boy getting a one year backup deal but nothing they can say will get Winston to see one snap for a entire year.

    They can have their takes but it will fade in irrevelancy as their favorite QB becomes a irrevelant player in this league for the entire league.

    They will have nothing to talk about and nothing to point at for a entire year….plus 6 months. It’s really kinda sad that they are in here pumping their chests after their boy just got officially demoted.

    Don’t know what they will do now but I guess they will have no choice but to grow quieter and quiter as their boy rides the pine. The only thing they will have to root for is that Drew Brees gets significantly hurt and has to miss a bunch of time. Their existence is now rooting for injury. That’s pretty freaking sad.

  238. Jmarkbuc Says:


    He turned down a better offer, working with some of the best…..

    For 1 yr with Brees? He should’ve taken the better offer ( unless it was with us, )

    This just looks like Payton showing his A$$ again. Taysom is #2. If JW makes the team he’ll be wearing sweatpants all year.

  239. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    That comment about Ndog schooling people was 100% sarcasm.


  240. Buczilla Says:

    I like Jameis, but if this rumor is true and yet another qb guru like Payton can’t rid him if his buffoonish ways, he is destined to be a glorified backup a la Jeff George. If Brees goes down and Jameis replaces him, I will relish the opportunity for our defense to put his d!ck in the dirt. This cat cost us 5 wasted years waiting for him to improve just like Vinny and Josh. Nothing personal, but from a “football sense” I want him to suffer like a mf if he plays us. 😜

  241. tbbucs3 Says:

    I am not by any stretch a Winston homer…..I just (unlike any of you haters) dont have any bias when it comes to evaluating quarterbacks and Winston was incredibly productive as a Bucs QB.

    Do I think Winston is a top 15 QB? No
    Do I think Winston can be a top QB? Yes

    Tom Brady was my #1 choice in free agency because Winston turnovers were too much a problem but its insane to hear Bucs fans consistency ignore the production (TDs and Yards) and focus on 1 aspect of his game (turnovers).

    Congrats Saints, you just signed a QB that is better than AT LEAST 10 starting QBs in the NFL.

  242. Jmarkbuc Says:


    “they’re a superbowl contender…you need a good backup if your starter goes down…“

    Any body can come in and throw a pic on their first throw, or a pick six any old time.

    Payton’s just being a smart ass.

  243. Youngbucs Says:

    Attention thus just in Winston sucks. Has been sucking for 5 years will continue sucking but it will not be his fault.

  244. Ouch Says:

    Lol this is so Bucs. Loose a QB, who they drafted, who lead the league or near the top in multiple categories. To a division opponent no less 🤣🤣😂😂😂 good move for Jameis, great move for the Saints. Finding a qb who can match the production of their aging HOF qb.

  245. tbbucs3 Says:

    Its amazing how when you even slightly defend Jameis and are not someone who spews hate about him all over the internet……you get labeled a homer.


    And JimmyJack says “Their existence is now rooting for injury. That’s pretty freaking sad.”

    Nobody said that except you….thats pretty low.

  246. Ouch Says:

    all the Winston haters have been whipped into a frenzy lol. This is exactly what the Bucs deserve, hopefully it doesn’t bite them in the butt for the next 8-12 seasons

  247. Ivan The Insider Says:


    My bad, I thought you were actually stating that Ndog was schooling people on this site. I misread the sarcasm.

  248. Jmarkbuc Says:


    “ But go ahead and trust this lying, selfish, egotistical fraud while he’s here but remember when he’s gone he will have burnt this to the ground and we still have to live here while he goes on not giving two sh!ts about this franchise.”

    Neither did Gruden, and the description above sounds a lot like him. We will carry on.

    Nobody had a problem when Gruden had a magical one year, if BA circles the wagons one time to get his, I don’t have a problem with it. He’s 67 and trying to get ‘er done.

    You need to beef with the tots and JLicht.

  249. tbbucs3 Says:

    I like to evaluate football players without any bias or hate. What a concept.

  250. Ivan The Insider Says:


    I have to give you credit where it’s due…

    I remember seeing post of yours during game chats where you were a strong supporter of Winston during games last season when he was our QB. But now that we’ve replaced him and let him go, your focus is on THE BUCS and no longer being bitter over Winston leaving.

    It’s too bad Ndog and others can’t do the same. This is an exciting time to be a Bucs fan with Brady, Gronk, and the other positives we have going on. But rather than embrace it and see if we can make a deep playoff run, these bitter Jameis lovers just post here all day with negative comments and bitterness.

    I also laugh at the criticism from people like Ndog about Arians & Licht trying to “win now” and really going for it. Thats what any team would do if given the chance. That was Gruden’s approach in that very first season with us that brought us a Super Bowl trophy. No one wants to try and rebuild for many years.

    The Bucs haven’t done anything to jeopardize the young core of this team. If Brady only plays two years, so be it. Next man up. We’ll sign another free agent QB or draft one. Life goes on.

    Anyone posting on this site like Ndog that’s obviously rooting for Arians to fail, is not a true Bucs fan. Plain and simple. No ifs, ands, or buts.

  251. D-Rome Says:

    Well, I suppose he has plenty of experience throwing touchdown passes to Saints players.

    The book is out on Jay-Miss. There is no fixing him. Once the Saints see that for themselves then they’ll use Winston as a bridge-the-gap QB to draft someone better.

  252. Ivan The Insider Says:


    Fair enough, but you have been posting non-stop negative stuff on this site lately.

  253. Youngbucs Says:

    Tbbucs3 knock it of you’re a nut hugger check your sheets lol

  254. JimmyJack Says:

    Tbbucs3……..Maybe you are not a nuggler and I was wrong to lable you as one in my response to Ivan. So I will apologize if that’s the case.

    Personally I was on the Winston ship and wanted him to return and I sank with it. I was a Winston fan but have moved on. I understand why they made the move. I also think Winston has a lot of talent and could be a force if ever honed in………But I see him as a Brett Favre clone who tossed away many more opportunities then he won. Personally I was never a Brett Favre fan and just though he cost his teams way too many great opportunities with mind numbing decisions.

    All’s I know is for right now I am happy Winston is a backup. Bad for Winston but great for our fanbase. We need to move on and Winston being a backup gives us the time to do so without looking over our shoulder.

    Now we got nothing to worry about but our own Bucs.

    GO BUCS!!!

  255. JimmyJack Says:

    I have also been called both a Winston Homer and a nuggler…….Depending on who I argue with…….They extremists have sought to lable and divide our fanbase at every turn. The existence of these extremists has done more harm then good and I wonder if they ever realized that.

    As as with almost everything that has two sides of extremely different opinion the truth almost always lies directly in the middle………..So my prediction for Winston will be this. He will lead a career similar to Favre who I compared him too……..And if he’s lucky enough to get with a great orginization will get his chances at big time playoff matches where his awful decision making will ultimately sink him…….Like Favre if he is lucky he will get one magical run and win one one day if he can get a very similar situation where he is not asked to carry the team.

  256. Cobraboy Says:

    I think Ndog enjoys an audience as he fondles his Messiah’s nads.

    Prolly gets off on it.

    That, and we’re all morons. He said so.

  257. SB Says:

    Jameis: “I’m not taking $25M, I want $30M.”
    Saints: “$2.5M is the final offer.”
    Jameis: “Throw in crab legs and free Uber rides and I’m headin to NOLA.”


    Best post of the week by far!

  258. WalkdaPlank Says:

    Jameis Winston has a lot of experience throwing passes to Saints players, he’ll fit right in!

  259. crazyBucs_CL Says:

    at last he is going to score for us at the beginning, and at the end of the game.
    so there we go, at the end JW is going to be the QB bucs were wishing for…. 🙂

  260. Darryls64 Says:

    I think Jameis wanted nothing to do with the Bucs. Look at the moves this organization is making, better win now because BA is not planning for the future of the team, no plans for the QB of the future. If you do have a 10+ win year where does that leave you in the draft for a QB. Betting your future on an aging QB is just another move that can keep you in the bottom of your division, BA is not the coach he was, just wait when he has a brain FAR** on the sidelines and see what Brady does. Bringing in Gronk could also be a sore spot for the other members of the team. What happens when these guys that are use to getting the ball all the time are watching the majority of Tom’s passes go to Gronk?

  261. crazyBucs_CL Says:

    we love you too Tom, can’t wait…

  262. Jmarkbuc Says:


    If we’re winning, nobody will have a problem with anything. The season ahead is a mine field for a lot of reasons. How it turns out is why we watch sports.

  263. Youngbucs Says:

    Darryl lol Winston wanted nothing to do with the Bucs a guess you’re another guy who thinks he had leverage lol

  264. Darryls64 Says:

    Don’t think he had any leverage, just think he wanted out.

  265. Ivan The Insider Says:



    Jameis wanted nothing to do with the Bucs? HAHAHAHAHA

    Oh man… that’s funny stuff.

    He was BEGGING for a contract extension and get the wake up call of his life when the Bucs PASSED on him and sent him packing to find another team.

    Enough of this nonsense with Arians ruining the team because he wants to win now with Brady. Dumbest take of all time.

    If the Bucs want their “QB of the Future” they’ll SIGN OR DRAFT HIM. It’s just that simple. Just like they signed Brady, they can sign another decent QB in free agency if it comes down to it. Or they can draft one, maybe next year if they see someone they like. And there are plenty of decent QBs drafted late in the first (where you’d pick if you won 10+ games) or even in other rounds.

  266. mark2001 Says:

    Does anyone know if the Mariota crowd is so upset in Tenn. right now? He is elsewhere trying to resurrect his career…just like Jameis is trying to do. Wish them both luck in the future, as long as it isn’t against the Bucs. But anyone that thinks neither guy has a problem, and that it is just chance that they are in this situation…and that 31 other teams don’t want them as their starter…has a problem.

    The only way they can rationally justify that no other of the 31 teams has jumped on them to fill their starting positions, is that the entire league is either senile, or that there is a conspiracy. Which is it guys? Or maybe both guys need work, and have problems that they need to seriously address. And if they won’t, they will never be a franchise QB.

  267. Darryls64 Says:

    I do not believe he had any leverage but I also think that he did not want any. If he does go to NO it will be the best thing for him. I believe that he is not finished in this league and will go on to be successful. It will take the GOAT to be the GOAT to make this franchise a winner.

  268. Youngbucs Says:

    Ok darryls64 ✌🏽🥱

  269. JimmyJack Says:

    I think you gotta be a big ass to think Arians don’t care about the future of this franchise. Or maybe you just don’t follow them very closely. It’s one or the other.

    So here’s the deal and the long-term plan. As has been speculated basically from the day Bruce was hired he has his successor already on staff. Part of Bruce’s lagacy will be tied to the future success of his successor. You know…….You hear all these things about great coaching trees from some of the greatest coaches. You better bet your ass Bruce cares about that. It’s really kinda foolish to think otherwise.

  270. Ivan The Insider Says:

    Darryls64, you’re wrong. He thought he’d play his entire career in Tampa but the Bucs front office decided to make him walk the plank.

    This franchise is capable of being a consistent playoff team with MANY QBs. We have the best WR tandem in the NFL. Hell, Fitzpatrick also put up huge numbers (similar to Jameis numbers) with the same offense Jameis had in 2018.

    We’ll be just fine, especially minus 30 INTs a year and 100+ turnovers during a 5 year span.

  271. Eric Says:

    No problem with letting the Kid go but I’ve said from day one letting that kid go is going to be one of the worst mistakes this organization has ever made, time will tell who was right or who was wrong

  272. Darryls64 Says:

    Ivan I am glad you have this all figured out. The last time I checked the defense sucked for most the year. But what do I know?

  273. mark2001 Says: I said with Mariotta…no team thinks either is worthy of starting right now. That may change…and they will both likely get another chance. But they both have major issues that caused them to fall as they have. And I hope they get them straightened out…as long as it doesn’t hurt the bucs.

  274. 1sparkybuc Says:

    Jameis endured five years of putrid defenses, some of the worst in league history. He never had a great OL, and only one decent ground attack. Special teams was never anything special. Despite all that he owns every season and career record for the franchise. When the Bucs finally started putting a team together, they dump him. In two years they will be scrambling for a franchise QB and Jameis will be leading some complete team to the playoffs year after year. I have been both proud and embarrassed of the Bucs down through the decades. This is the first time I have ever been ashamed. I will root for them in every game like I always have, but not when they face Jameis Winston. He deserved better.

  275. Darryls64 Says:

    Sparky, I agree 100%.

  276. Bucnjim Says:

    Saints to Winston: OK we play the Bucs and Tom Brady twice this year and we might even meet in the playoffs. Now tell us everything about Arians and his game plan! Winston: Do I get to start? NO! Do I get paid a lot of money? NO! Do I get a long term deal? NO! Do I’ve to eat W’s during pregame? NO! Well what DO I get? Less than a second string TE but more than the teams entire cheerleading squad. We will even throw in a lifetime supply of crawfish and crab legs. Winston: Sounds good to me!

  277. Ndog Says:

    Just wondering how me telling you morons that we are screwed is rooting for the Saints. I just tell the trust and that is as of this moment we are in much much worse position than the Saints if both of our starting QB goes down. It is also the truth that Jameis could go onto become the Saints long term answer which could haunt us for years while we have no one on this roster that could be that for us. Not sure how you can argue either of those points but I am sure Ivan will just lie again and make stuff up cause you know that’s really all hes got.

    Just two days ago all you could say he is “hes not going to be on a team” and “why hasnt he signed yet”. Well now one of the best offensive minds in football just singed him and not you are all like he is going to be 3rd string. Well if you morons didnt know the Saints dress 3 QBs each week to use Taysom in many ways so Jameis is on the team unless he gets hurt and if Brees gets hurt he is the perfect position to take over from Brees on a LOADED team with the Saints. So you go ahead and blow this off, and while you do that the team we are trying to take down is getting better and better and again we are the ones that have to deal with it with this self absorbed idiot BA is driving our team to the old folks home.

  278. Bucnjim Says:

    Weather you love Winston, hate him or are just tired of hearing about him; the market value is the reality of your worth. He got a one year deal for close to the league minimum for a five year player. This is his current value sorry!

  279. Ivan The Insider Says:


    NONSENSE. Stop this busted myth that the Bucs never had a great OL. You don’t pass for 5,000+ yards with a bad O-Line. Bucs had the highest payroll OL in the NFL at one point. They struggled at times with running the ball, but Arians is more about the pass anyway, like much of the league.

    Jameis Winston at QB, just like any other position on the team, can be independently analyzed (regardless of team wins). Yes, he had some crummy defenses on the team during his 5 years with the Bucs. BUT…

    The Defense isn’t on the field when Winston has the ball. You can’t just blame them, or the kicker, or anyone else for Winston’s accuracy inconsistencies, turnover problems, and bad decision making. The guy had OVER 100 TURNOVERS in his short career with the Bucs. He’s just too inconsistent.

    Winston is definitely NOT to blame for all of the Bucs losing, but he definitely contributed his fair share. Anyone that can’t admit that is either being dishonest and has a cognitive bias, or they don’t understood how the game of football actually works.

  280. Ndog Says:

    JimmyJack please tell us all about this great plan Arains has for when he bails? Oh I know it is the one year coordinator Leftwich or the complete failure as a head coach Bowles? No it is going to be the great Goody!!!!?

    Give me a break dude you believe everything they tell you, open your eyes and quit being such a sucker. Get excited, heck like I said I wish I was excited, but dont say stupid things that make no sense whatsoever. HE HAS A PLAN AND THAT IS TO WIN IT ALL THEN BAIL AND IF THAT DOES NOT WORK OH WELL HES OUT.

    But to play your game lets says he does have a coach on the staff. Who exactly is he leaving them at QB? So your saying he has this great plan and is there for his boys to take over but he is going to screw them over and leave them with no QB? Yeah your right that does sound like the same BA I have seen.

  281. JimmyJack Says:

    Sparky…..Will you still feel shame if we become a contender this season?

  282. Matt Says:

    The check yo sheet rant was the nail in the coffin for most fans. If he would have show some humility in that moment and was like “Man I just want to win and I have confidence in my team so much that all I see are the positives from a throw and it ends Up looking like a bonehead play. For example let’s look at this interception, I knew I had cover 3 and the dig route by my slot was my main read and I loved the matchup but I stared him down. I just can’t let that happen again I have to manipulate the middle linebacker away from that area, he’s keying on me, I know better.”

    I think most fans would love to hear Jameis say something like that. When he has a bad game he’s like “Just gotta get better man. I’m gonna continue to work hard and I’ll get there.” —that’s bs. You aren’t Belichek with 6 rings, you have to explain yourself to win over your fans and teammates.

    No one questions his desire or his will or determination, it’s his mental strength to implement new principles and digest these ideas and execute them. There’s no doubt that Jameis could somehow pull an Eli Manning and just get super hot the last couple games of the year and take a 9-7 team to a a championship. When he gets hot he consistently makes jaw-dropping tight window throws. If he figures it out he will break every season record there is. We both needed a change and deep down I know he’s not a bad guy so I won’t root against him forever, only until he learns humility.

  283. Ivan The Insider Says:


    It’s because you’re a BITTER Jameis fan that has gone all scorched earth on Arians & Licht because they didn’t resign your hero. You’ve spewed nothing but negativity and hate towards the Bucs front office and every move they’d made since Jameis wasn’t brought back.

    Your BIAS is so strong it’s ridiculous. You’ve turned so sour on a team you allegedly rooted for and went to games for. It’s pretty sad. All because Winston wasn’t resigned after committing over 100 turnovers in 5 seasons and was super inconsistent.

    I’ve been a diehard Bucs fan since they began (when I was a little kid) and aside from getting Gruden, RIGHT NOW is one of the most exciting moments in all of Tampa Bay Buccaneers history.

    We’ve just signed arguably the greatest NFL QB of all time. Yes, he’s older and at the end of his career. But even if he plays 70% of what his peak was it’s still probably better than most QBs in the NFL.

    Our young Defense seems to get better with every game and more experience. Licht pulled off a fantastic move seeing potential in Shaq Barrett and having him turn into a sack machine that we’ve so sorely lacked for many years. Obviously we hope he does it again in his 2nd year with us.

    Bucs fans are on CLOUD NINE right now. We’ve spent so many years in the toilet, missing the playoffs for 12 years. Stinking so bad since our Super Bowl victory. BUT… here we are… with a chance to do something big in our history. To maybe… just maybe… make a deep playoff run. And maybe… if things go our way, and probably a little bit of luck, we might have a chance to win another Super Bowl.

    It truly is an incredible time to be a Bucs fan after all these years of suckage.


    Here you are… day in and day out on this site for the past 37 days since Winston wasn’t resigned… whining… complaining…. dogging Arians about “karma” and “pay back”… being overly dramatic and exaggerating how we’re doomed for another decade because of recent moves… yadda yadda yadda.


    You don’t see how a true Bucs fan would find a way to enjoy the excitement and situation we’re currently in? In case you haven’t noticed… WE’RE THE TALK OF THE SPORTS WORLD. We’re getting all the buzz in the NFL. US! THE BUCS! It’s amazing.

    Why can you just enjoy the ride and OUR PRESENT? I get it… you’re disappointed we decided not to keep Winston. But c’mon man… if you can’t honestly see WHY they didn’t keep him (in a fair analysis) then you’re just out of your mind. He was super inconsistent and still had turnover issues; independent of other team problems.

    It’s just sad to see any Bucs fan now fired up, super excited, and GRATEFUL for where we’ve found ourselves coming into this season.

    So… yes… you talking so much crap about the front office and all this “doom & gloom” because they decided not to continue with Winston is ABSURD and does make you less of a fan.

    So.. IF…and it’s a big IF… we somehow pull off a miracle run and win the Super Bowl with Brady… just make sure you don’t celebrate that much. Because it will be Arians & Licht. The men who decided not to bring back your hero. The hero you’re willing to die on your sword for instead of get behind your supposed team… at one of their greatest moments in their long and frustrating history.

    GO BUCS.

  284. Bucnjim Says:

    The average cost of a turnover in the NFL is 4 points for the opponent. If you look closer though it really depends on field position and pick sixes. With the amount of pick sixes Winston had last year and the amount of turnovers that happened in our opponents side of the field the average was Closer to 5 points per turnover.

  285. Knuckle Sandwich Delivery Service Says:

    Ok Daryl, so now all of our players will be upset about stats. Great take. None of them want to win. Just stats. Got it. Guess that’s where the Mr 5000 got his name. Stats.

  286. Tompa Says:

    I can’t believe people think the Saints signed him to play lol.
    You people that say “oh hell play the next 10 years there” are complete and utter morons lmao.
    You all are idiots if you think they signed him for any other reason than to get info out of him about the Bucs.
    He’s literally the 3rd string QB lmao.

    NDOG stfu and go be a Saints fan you loser.

  287. JimmyJack Says:

    NDog exactually what do I need to open my eyes too? Feel free to enlighten me.

    There’s been wide speculation from probably everybody that reports on this team that Bruce’s predecessor is on the staff. It’s common knowledge among Bucs fans that is the most likely and sensible plan. It makes perfect sense.

    As far as QB we got a few years until we come to that bridge buddy…….Maybe you need to open your eyes since for some unknown reason you don’t seem to understand that. Maybe they will draft one maybe they will sign one or maybe they will develope one whose already here(admittly that seems like a long shot) but they got a few years to figure that part out. In case you haven’t noticed it’s not the 70’s no more and you don’t need to draft a QB and have him hold a clipboard for 4 seasons to make sure he is ready……..Which is to say that we got plenty of time.

    Also while you are bragging that the Saints improved so much I will like to remind you that we just majorly upgraded at the most vital position and signed a HOF tight end………Another awful take by you in this thread.

  288. Bucnjim Says:

    That was really well written and I completely agree. I’ve had so many players I’ve liked throughout the years leave for many reasons but have never followed them or even cheered for them after they’ve left unless I’ve known them personally.

  289. Tompa Says:

    The best part about all you nut huggers is this: HE ISNT ON THIS TEAM ANYMORE LMAO.

    Eat it all you loser FSU idiots Hahahahaha.

    Your boy is outta here lol. The human ATM is someone else’s problem. You all LOSE lmao. All the “he’s coming back” hahaha game over for you all lol.

    Your savior is a 3rd strong QB lmao hahahaha.

    You nut huggers LOST hahaha

  290. Knuckle Sandwich Delivery Service Says:


    I think you pretty much nailed it. I don’t get why this guy is worried about ten years from now, when there is a season coming up. Perhaps fielding the best team we have in 15 years. NDog is NOSBOS. Same negativity has been coming from that guy for the past 5 years. Nothing you say will change it. He’s just a bitter sad FSU fan.

  291. Knuckle Sandwich Delivery Service Says:

    Moderation for what Joe?

  292. JimmyJack Says:

    And it is very obvisous that you cannot point a finger and blame us fans no more. Now you need somebody to blame so you blame the coach who made the decision. You are fighting for your opinion so hard you put that opinion above the team.

    I do realize all different types of people is what makes the world go around but do realize you have let your little opinion turn you into the type of fan that you stood against for so long. A hater.

    It’s is quite ironic.

  293. JimmyJack Says:

    And all of your hate toward Bruce Arians is complete nonsense. The only person you have peddling that nonsense is none other then Jameis 1of1.

    Yeah yeah you will try to weasle out of that fact with some lame argument but at the end of the day 1of1 is your only source and the only one you could possibly site.

    I got news for ya bro. If his name does not scream agenda to you you’re pretty well hopeless.

  294. WalkdaPlank Says:

    Crazy how nobody wanted to sign America’s Turnover Machine, ex-Bucs Pro Bowl alternate QB Jameis Winston, to contract to be a starter the moment he was on the market. I mean, he led the league in passing yards right? Jameis is the best thing since sliced bread right? Brett Favre and Peyton Manning three interceptions so Jameis must be just like them right? Drew Brees left his team after five years, not because he played terribly but because he was injured, but who cares the number of years he had in the NFL before going to the Saints is the same so Jameis must be just like him right? Jameis holds all the Bucs franchise records which he had to wrestle away from Hall of Fame quarterbacks Josh Freeman and Vinny Testaverde, surely these prestigious achievements mean he’s basically the best QB in the NFL right? Jameis Winston is a future Hall of Famer right?

    What Hall of Fame quarterback ever found himself signed to nearly the league minimum, as a 3rd string QB, after 5 years in the NFL?

    Yeah, he’s totally gonna be torching the Bucs for the next 10-15 years. Right. Well, he’s already got a 5 year head start on that!

  295. Howard Cosell Says:

    THIS! This type moment, right here, defines the sorry Bucs: Denial.
    You guys are in denial if you don’t think Winston will end up as Peyton’s Backup this year. Rod and I are like Noah and his buddy…we’re telling you there’s a flood coming and you’re mocking us LOL.
    Like Rod, Howard is very happy with the recent moves by the Bucs, but like Rod said. Theis effeort lives and dies with Bradys performance and durability.
    Howard is mad becuase this whole dyfunctional crap show is SOOO Buccaneers…..and you guys just don’t study Bucs history!

  296. K2 Says:

    Hey Jameis want to come to N.O. and bring a Bucs playbook…we got a deal for you.

  297. MtBucsfan Says:

    What a great idea to have him learn behind a future hall of Famer for a year. Oh and to also give up all the goods on the bucs lol.

  298. Howard Cosell Says:

    The best we can hope for is Brees to stay healthy and Winston to get bored and sign somewhere else far away

  299. runnerdoc Says:

    Of course he’s Peyton’s back up. Hill hasn’t thrown 20 NFL passes.

  300. Ivan The Insider Says:


    yeah right…LOLZ.

    I’d almost be willing to bet Blaine Gabbert will have more success in our stacked Offense than Winston did.

    Gabbert probably won’t have as many yards and “stats” as Winston would, but Gabbert would probably win us more games by eliminating the soul-crushing turnovers and lack of rest (and morale) for the Defense.

    Winston hasn’t proven anything, especially not for the Saints yet.

  301. Sauron's eye Says:

    After we signed TB12 the Goat, we had to cut Winston, just no way around it. We made a huge short term upgrade, and JW on the roster makes no sense. I wish him the best, but wish he went to another division. In the present we are set to compete with anyone. We let lots of players go that we should have retained, but I don’t think this was one of them.

  302. Wesley Says:

    Good dude hope he does well when he leaves N.O..

  303. donuts Says:

    300 comments on this loser. What has Winston won for the Bucs after 5 years? Zero. The yardage award is for losers. Stop wasting your time on this guy and these articles. We have a new leader in town…the GOAT. The Winston clingers can follow him wherever he goes. I dont think it will be the Saints either as they have no cap money with the signing of Hill today. They had $5 million before the signing. Payton played Winston’s agent to get Hill to sign.

  304. JimmyJack Says:

    Winston will be the backup. Hill signed to be the utility player. Wr/RB/ST/Gimick QB……Does he play defense?

  305. Tompa Says:

    Lmao watching you nut hugging losers have your panties in a wad is GREAT lmao.

    Your savior is gone and is now a 3rd stringer and ONLY with the Saints so he can give them info on the Bucs lol.

    You’re all so blind with your love affair that you don’t see it for what it really is.

    An information gathering signing lol.

  306. Tompa Says:

    NDOG And his crew look so pathetic. Remember how sure they were of Winston signing a long term deal here? And the way NDOG talked down to everyone because he thought he was right? Lmao what a pathetic bum.

  307. Youngbucs Says:

    Ndog is a loser talking about karma lol. Maybe this is karma for Winston lying to the organization and fans. And sticking his hands were they don’t belong that clown can’t even catch an Uber. I wonder ndog I’m not saying his guilty even thou all signs point to that out his own mouth. But I’m wondering how far your fandom goes what if that was your mother sister or aunt or cousin 🤔

  308. Ivan The Insider Says:

    Did the Saints actually sign Winston? If not, what’s their cap room at the moment?

  309. TexBuc Says:

    Saints are a charge it and pay the bill later type of team.

  310. Ivan The Insider Says:

    I just read that some expect a Winston signing to be announced after 4PM tomorrow (Monday). Apparently any unrestricted free agents signed after 4PM don’t count towards compensatory picks for 2021.

  311. scot pederson Says:

    Hey now, this could be interesting:
    Brees gets hurt again like last year
    JW gets to come in and sub like Teddy B did
    Bucs defense knows his tendencies and twice a year they get 3 picks and a Pick 6 to boot.

    Voila! Our race to the top of the Division becomes even easier with TB12 at the helm and now Gronk to replace the sliding OJ.

  312. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Have any of you Jameis haters thought about publishing your essays that you comment about him in books?

    I mean you haters are obsessed!

  313. lambchop Says:

    I just want to see Jameis poke Lattimore in the head now. LOL.

  314. Tbbucs3 Says:

    “ I’d almost be willing to bet Blaine Gabbert will have more success in our stacked Offense than Winston did”.

    WARNING ⚠️ Do not scroll through this thread if you’re looking for intelligent football opinions.

  315. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Jameis Winston career stats……121 TD 88 Int

    Blaine Gabbert career stats……..48 TD 47 Ints.

  316. Posey99 Says:

    Ballin’ on the bench lol

  317. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Headline from Fanside “Taysom Hill to be the most compensated third-string quarterback of all time”

    Jameis is not going anyway and I guarantee he will play next season.

  318. Youngbucs Says:

    Jameis Winston career stats 121tds 88ints how many dumb fumbles??? Lol
    Pat Mahomes career stats 2 years 76tds 17 ints 👀
    2 compared to 5 years which is a true franchise QB
    It’s ok thou compare him to Blaine because that’s what Winston is now a career back let’s see how long he last in the league

  319. Youngbucs Says:

    😂😂😂😂I know Jameis still developing I get 🙄

  320. Youngbucs Says:

    Ndog says Winston is with an offensive genius now ok. So when he gets an opportunity and wets the bed as he’s done for 5years is it peytons fault?????
    I’m asking seriously the football field doesn’t lie fans do!!!!!

  321. Youngbucs Says:

    He’s not going to get the rope he got with the Bucs with other organizations. He’s not their number 1 overall pick his leash is short I hope he finally gets it.

  322. Architek Says:

    All you Jameis lovers go with him to the Saints!!!

  323. Tbbucs3 Says:

    When did I say Jameis was Pat Mahomes? He’s a middle of the pack QB and he’s better than at least 10 Starting Quarterbacks in the NFL right now.

    Jameis is right now easily Better than……

    1. Sam Darnold
    2. Baker Mayfield
    3. Josh Allen
    4. Philip Rivers
    5. Teddy Bridewater
    6. Dwayne Haskins
    7. Justin Herbert (LA)
    8. Mitch Trubisky or Nick Foles (CHI)
    9. Drew Lock
    10. Daniel Jones

  324. Bucsfan951 Says:

    ^all qbs that have less years in the nfl than jw. Obviously not grandpa rivers. You get the hint tho.

  325. Afo Says:

    Foles won a Superbowl final MVP

  326. ©MadMax Says:

    BigHog “MadMax….I’m a Boar-Hog with big nads….”

    ok Madea, my bad.

  327. ©MadMax Says:

    So, whats JW getting paid? Im guessing with the amount they just signed their 2nd stringer to, its going to be 2.5-3.5 mill? Man, what a drop!! Ballin!!! Check yo sheets!!!! Na bruh, check your pay…..the sheets were already checked by everyone.

  328. ©MadMax Says:

    Shoot, after he spills the beans to Payton, he’ll probably be relinquished to the practice squad for $8000/wk.

  329. firethecannons Says:

    funny picture of Jameis! I hope for good things for Jameis but not against the Bucs. hope the saints fall apart next year and Jameis gets to play and plays well.

  330. BigHog Says:

    MadMax:you either stupid or you’re in a drunken stupor!!!

  331. ©MadMax Says:

    Ah lighten up….you always talking crap….i made you laugh, admit it 🙂

  332. Bucsfanman Says:

    Heard this the other day and said “wow, NFC South?!”
    Well, I wish Jameis the best except when playing the Bucs. It’ll be interesting to see if he can learn from one of the best HC and QB in the NFL.

  333. Afo Says:

    Sean Payton ain’t the best coach, best coaches doesn’t choke in postseason all he does is stat pad in season and chokes in postseason

  334. Youngbucs Says:

    Tbbucs3 your little QB list just demonstrates how trash Winston is. Yeah our 5th year vet is better than 10QBS. Then proceeded to show guys who are in the 1st or 2nd year and a guy who just got drafted lol. Delusional nut case ummm post say a Daniel Jones put his tds and picks up from last year against Winston I would say he’s better than Winston I know I’m crazy and remember how many gms he missed last year. Sorry but 5000 yds does not make you elite especially when you compare his season to other 5000 yds passers Winston is trash he had to throw 30 ints to reach 5000 yds 😂

  335. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    C’mon NDOG……SAY IT…..C’mon…..say “GO BUCS, even WITHOUT America’s Groper!!” …..can’t?

  336. jjbucfan Says:

    Gonna be funny, when JW actually signs back with us, this wasn’t a done deal with the Saints. The problem is this community is split 50% Gators, 30% Noles, 10% Canes (maybe less since they have sucked for a decade😜) and 10% others. Loudest anti-JW I know are Gators. Loudest in the room doesn’t make you right, it just makes you loud.

  337. Afo Says:

    Sorry @jjbucsfan we don’t want turnover machine and Mr. 5000 yards anymore in our lockerroom

  338. DBS Says:

    Cold day in Hell when he signs back here! Glazers lost enough money because of this clown.

  339. Oneilbucs Says:

    Bruce Arians is a fraud . He coached Payton Manning to a 100 interceptions .

  340. TexBuc Says:

    Maybe true but Sean Payton has a
    Super Bowl Ring and our coach does not.

  341. Ivan The Insider Says:


    You know all INTs aren’t “created equal” right? i.e. an INT isn’t just an INT.

    It depends how the INT happened… under tremendous pressure… thrown on the run… thrown when making a high risk throw deep down field, etc.

    My guess is that Mannings 100 INTs had different patterns from Winston’s. I haven’t analyzed them all so I don’t know for sure, but I would assume a lot of Manning’s INTs (which was a major problem for Winston) weren’t those LB drops and bad outside short throws that Winston often made.

    Some INTs are more fixable than others. My assumption is that Jameis wasn’t showing major improvement in the INTs that are harder to fix and/or should rare be made.

    There’s definitely a good reason that Arians wanted to move on from Jameis. He knows football. He didn’t know Jameis was worth the gamble to fix the turnover problems. So it can’t only be about similar INT numbers with other QBs. There has to be something there for the progress being made and what TYPE of mistakes they are.

  342. TJ Says:

    Can’t wait…

  343. Ivan The Insider Says:

    Looks like the “Winston turned down a big offer to sign with the Saints” was probably FALSE. Most of the rumors said that was the Steelers.

    Jason La Canfora reports many believe that other team to be the Steelers but he confirms the Steelers “had zero interest in signing Winston.”

  344. Natron Says:

    Ndog: It’s time for you to take down that lifesize poster of Jameis from the ceiling over your bed, and move on Bro !!!!

  345. mark2001 Says:

    So Jameis is moving on…good. We need to as well. We never should have drafted him in the first place. Character does matter. Don’t know if the Glazers really knew that when they green lighted him. I hope they do now. A player that is a national embarrassment in his actions described as juvenile at best, isn’t good for the team or the fans eventually. Secondly, drafting a guy that graduated from a regional college can be problematic, when he brings a group of fans with him that can’t admit it if and when he has proven to be a failure, and then strike out at anyone that tells it like it is. I wish him well, and hope he truly has straightened his life out. Time will tell. Obviously the guy that knew him best, and possibly more about getting the most of of QB’s in this league, didn’t think he could cut it, and only saw him as a fall back plan. That is the bottom line for me. Bon Voyage Jameis.

  346. Bradybru Says:

    You can’t fix stupid