Brady’s Personnel Power & “The Most Important Job In Possibly NFL History For A Rookie”

April 28th, 2020

The NFL partners at ESPN sure seem to know something about the inner workings at One Buc Palace.

ESPN is out there pounding the theory that Tom Brady is a massive power broker within the Buccaneers’ personnel department.

Over and over and over, ESPN loves this angle, starting with when they first reported it about 7 weeks ago. The Bucs were aware Brady wanted power/influence in personnel and were prepared to give it to him, Dianna Russini shared a week before Brady was signed.

And right on cue, in comes Rob Gronkowski fresh out of professional wrestling for $10 million this season, and Bucco Bruce Arians tells the world Brady pushed for the trade relentlessly.

In a draft discussion on ESPN TV on Friday, popular host Mike Greenberg pushed the Brady’s-in-charge theory and it was gobbled up by analyst and former Cowboys and Ravens defensive end Marcus Spears.

“100 percent,” said Spears, explaining that obviously conversations were had prior to Brady signing in Tampa — conversations about what Brady desired to succeed.

When you get what you want, expectations skyrocket, Spears added. “It’s all on Tom Brady now,” he said, noting the Bucs are loaded around Brady.

Spears loved the drafting of Iowa tackle Tristan Wirfs in Round 1, who he astutely said has “the most important job in possibly NFL history for a rookie.”

That’s a unique take and it might even be accurate. And speaking of accuracy, if it’s inaccurate that Brady has personnel power, somebody from the Bucs probably should get on the phone to ESPN so they lay off this storyline flavor of the month.

105 Responses to “Brady’s Personnel Power & “The Most Important Job In Possibly NFL History For A Rookie””

  1. Pewter Power Says:

    I have to think if Brady was getting what he wanted we would have drafted a big time running back in the second round not a safety.

  2. Howard Cosell Says:

    Of course Brady has big personal power. Glazers have finally learned their lesson.
    Who do you want designing a power plant?
    Nikola Tesla or the 3 Stooges (LOL)

  3. Howard Cosell Says:

    Hopefully whats happening is that Brady, Arians and Licht all have roughly equal say….(with Licht being the tie-breaker)….and the Glazers are completely barred from making ANY personal decisions

  4. LaMarcus Says:

    What ever Shady wants he better gets. That’s the most important job BA and Licht has to do now. It’s the position they put themselves in. Need to do whatever to keep him happy

    Last thing they want is a unhappy Brady

  5. JimmyJack Says:

    Howard the Glazers have never made a players personal decision in their lifes I bet. Including their dad.

    Tom is probably telling Todd how to run the defense too. Tom is that great!!

  6. Durango 95 Says:

    As much as I want Brady to win for the Bucs. The Brady worship is still as nauseating as it ever was.

  7. Howard Cosell Says:

    Jimmy, the Glazers have been huge personal influencers (meddlers) in the past and they’re surreptitious about it. Gruden and some other high-ranking ex-Bucs have hinted at this many times.
    That’s a fact…Jack

  8. ncbucsfan Says:

    Brady didn’t and doesn’t need a “big-time running back. He wants an RB that will do his job, protect his a**, and pick up YAC after catching his checkdowns. What “big-time” RB has he ever had besides Corey Dillon? Keshawn Vaughn looks better on paper and film than James White did coming out of Wisconsin, though VERY similar (faster, but nearly identical combine numbers). RoJo is going for 1,000 yds this year, like it or not. He is very talented regardless of the slander from the Joes!! Brady made 1 suggestion of a HOF TE and now he’s calling the shots? Negative. But BA and Licht would be idiots not to seek and allow his input!

  9. Howard Cosell Says:

    Brady made 1 suggestion of a HOF TE and now he’s calling the shots? Negative. But BA and Licht would be idiots not to seek and allow his input!

    That sounds about right

  10. '79 Defense Says:

    I guess he wanted more than just the players phone numbers.

  11. AJ Says:

    OK a guy who has seen the game from his vantage point for 20 years. And you wouldn’t want to have his input into what he likes and doesn’t like??? I would expect TB12 to have some thoughts on what works.

  12. Cubano Bucanero Says:

    I think if Clyde was there in the second they would’ve taken him over Winfield

  13. Ndog Says:

    It seems everyone is forgetting that Brady has spent his entire career with the greatest coach of all time.

    You sure are expecting a lot from a weak armed, non mobile QB in a new system, with new teammates, playing for a new coach for the first time in 20 years, and oh yeah he’s 43 years old!!!!!!

  14. Howard Cosell Says:

    You’re the Jameis groupie, right?

  15. Howard Cosell Says:

    Winston could rise to dominate the NFC South. THat’s a very real possibility.
    It’s also a very real possibility that the Brady-Bucs could win the SB

  16. Buddhaboy19 Says:

    The Demoncrats are interdimensional Demons. I said it, yes theyre demons.

    Its what all the ancients said, they have sold their souls to little tiny elf like creatures like bill gates. He is a freekin demon.

  17. Bird Says:

    Ndog is absolutely a weirdo
    I mean he wants to do naughty naughty things to jameis. Lets be clear about that

    Yah. Brady is garbage
    Same old ndog who has compared jameis to mahommes , manning brees and rodgers. Pretty much ever quality qb in the history of the NFL

    But dont let him fool you. He is not a FSU homer
    He cares only about the man. #3
    Ndog is TO after the cowboys game when romo struggled. TO was crying “thats my quarterback”

    He wont root against saints when bucs play them

    What a freaking loser
    And he is like in his mid 50’s

  18. Youngbucs Says:

    Ndog you’re a loser

  19. Craig Says:

    I’m pretty sure that Brady knows exactly what he needs to make the Bucs offense into a Juggernaut. Arians, Leftwich and even Licht will defer to his wishes, I would too.

    Whatever it takes to let the locker room know how it feels to win is a positive, one I think will happen a lot.

    The best way to have a team come together id to win.

  20. Bird Says:

    Ndogs only regret in life was that he was not the Uber driver that night

  21. Doc Says:

    Why not confer with Mike Evan and some of the players that have been working under this looser G.M. I guess Brady is the G.M. head coach, offense coordinator, rule do not apply to me man and P.S. football player. All ready`happening with Brady, my way or the highway, I am in charge attitude.

  22. DBS Says:

    6 Rings. Yes I think I might listen to his advice to. Think he might have been around and know what it takes??

  23. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I’m quite sure that the draft went exact the way BA, Bowles & Licht wanted and in that order.
    I agree that the Gronk deal was influenced by Brady…..

    To think anything else would be to think Brady wanted a 2nd round Safety and had Vaughn highest on his personal board when picked.

    Joe and everyone are forgetting that Rojo’s 4.2 YPC projected to 15 carries over 16 games is 1008 yards….

    We needed to draft a RB but we don’t need to replace Rojo….just give him the ball.

  24. Casual Observer Says:

    Bird. Good one. I laughed out loud.

  25. JimmyJack Says:

    Howard…….Who exactually are you talking about? you going back to Gruden days talking hints?

    Not much there that I’m buying. Not saying your wrong. I just hadn’t seen it.

  26. BillyBucFan Says:

    Yeah Brady has NEVER had a RB finish in the top of the league rushing, so I doubt it was his priority.

    Plus he actually throws the ball TO the running back, not OVER him.

    Go back and watch Winston’s attempted screen passes to Doug Martin.

    He ALWAYS threw it over his head.

    Just having Brady WILL make our run game better. PERIOD

  27. Buczilla Says:

    Outside of a couple of personalities that I respect on ESPN and live sports, ESPN is hot garbage. Also, I don’t care if they hired a psychic to channel the late Hugh Culverhouse to call the shots. I just want to win.

  28. Nate Says:

    Ndog, I’m embarrassed for you.

  29. Darin Says:

    Let’s see how the greatest coach of all time does without the greatest qb of all time. We shall see how great he is

  30. Greg Says:

    @BBF Agree totally as JW = high throws. TB = catches conducive to hauling ass!

  31. BUC CHEEKS Says:

    Bird with Uber burn🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 shooooot! Lmao. Just give it up dog. Jameis is officially the enemy. ✌️OUT

  32. Bucsfanman Says:

    It’s hilarious that anyone wouldn’t be ecstatic about having the GOAT QB leading their team. There is literally ZERO question about Brady’s skillset, save for a couple of weak-minded individuals who think that Winston was the answer. Sad!

  33. JimmyJack Says:

    NDog you make me sick. Rotten little hater.

    Ya wanna know what we can expect from Brady? Great things cause he’s great. All this little talking points about new scemes this and new team that are excuses reserved for the weak.

    So continue on hating. Enjoy the hate for the next several year while you seek and beg for validation of your little opiniob. The rest of us will keep our expectations high and enjoy every last second of it.

  34. westernbuc Says:

    Brady has more power in the playbook than in the roster. Given that Arians doesn’t use tightends and now we have $20 million tied up in them

  35. mark2001 Says:

    The Jameis signing is official, though I don’t know terms.

    I also heard that the NFL is considering penalties on NO, for trying to avoid the draft compensation determination, by putting off signing until the day after the draft compensation deadline.

  36. BucEmUp Says:

    No better be penalized because thats rhe only reason they waited

  37. Ndog Says:

    That’s fine JimmyJack but just know that the best coach that ever lived sent Brady packing for Jared Stidham, in fact he paid him to not play there. Let that sink in he’s paying most of his salary and didn’t want him to be there. I’m sure you are super confident that Arains is as good as a 6 time championship head coach, right?

    And please no one feel bad for me as I post FACTS and people come on here and make jokes mean nothing. Oh actually it does mean something, it means they have nothing to refute said FACTS so they resort or jokes which proves I’m right yet again. There has not been one debate I have lost cause you can’t lose with FACTS so keep bringing it cause I enjoy putting all of you to shame.

  38. mark2001 Says:

    BTW..Wirfs was predicted by many big name prognosticators to be drafted #4 by the NY Giants. The value to draft up from 14 to 4 would be about 700 points, equivalent to 14th, plus our second, third and forth round pick. Yes we moved up one position for a forth round pick, about 50 points. That is right about a forth round pick. So for the naysayers among us, it worked out pretty good.

  39. Issac haggins Says:

    I Just find it hilarious that you draft a qb 1 st overall amd don’t ever give him a good blocking and combo catch the dam ball back. Then fo the goat youdraft what you believe is the best blocking with a lil combo third down back just for the qb, who is believed to be the goat!!

    It gets better though , you put the first overall pick behind two rookie o linemen his first year, for five years he never has an o lineman sniff a pro bowl but for the goat you trade up to get him protected !! Why the change of reasoning , not saying I disagree , because I don’t but this just shows you how narrow sighted Licht was with the # 1 overall pick and how much he put on and never let up on the rookie from day one !!

    It gets even better , The GOAT 🐐 was almost dead last in the nfl while under pressure , do you think Big Bill handled the dam near dead last under pressure guy different in coverages and offense than Licht and his head coaches !! Trust me the offense will change a ton or The GOAT will be retired by week 8 and won’t be almost dead last , he will be dead last in the NFL while under pressure in Arians Offense . ……….. Almost dead last in the NFL !! This ought to be interesting to watch !!

  40. mark2001 Says:

    Those predicting Giants picking Wirfs at 4… Iyers, Kiper, Jeremiah, King…. McShay predicted Arizona at 8…..Sporting News.

  41. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    I get really nervous about Ndog. You would think that he is a troll but he posts this too much to be a troll. It’s starting to get sad him winning these imaginary arguments.

    Guys just nod at Ndog and tell him how he is right okay.

  42. Issac haggins Says:

    Btw The 1 st overall pick never had an o lineman that was a first rounder picked for him !! Yet Licht nearly shat al over himself offering up a third and a forth to get a first rounder for the Goat , after he spent a forth getting him his personal tighend at a crazy heavy cap of 10 mil.
    That have to chop that down to bring in a vet or two , don’t they ??

  43. CPN Says:

    “You sure are expecting a lot from a weak armed, non mobile QB in a new system, with new teammates, playing for a new coach for the first time in 20 years, and oh yeah he’s 43 years old!!!!!!”


    Fair, Ndog.

    However, the defense is beefed up, there’s another RB drafted, and the offensive line has been beefed up.

    We just need a QB who won’t turn over the ball a lot. Why not get the best one possible?

  44. Clw JB Says:

    Of course he has major input, he is TOM BRADY

    You don’t sign the GOAT and then stick him in the corner

    You go ALL IN

    and look, mark it down today – the 2nd Rd pick is an All Pro -people always sleep on size, the dude is a PLAYER to the NTH degree in a spot of HUUUUUUGGGGEEEEE need

    Even O happy BA saw the value of that spot – it would have been nice to get a better RB, but we got a GOLD level S instead of a Silver level RB all in all

  45. ncbucsfan Says:

    Raymond has natural hands!! BA wasn’t blowing smoke after all!!

  46. mark2001 Says:

    With Paytons continual actions to break or try to skirt NFL rules, I will never call NO the Saints…from this day forward, I will call them the New Orleans Shady’s.

  47. JimmyJack Says:

    Wow NDog that is the biggest joke of a comment I never saw. It would be so bad if you hadn’t propped yourself up about all these facts you believe in. There is nothing factual about what you just wrote. Do you really not understand? Or are you just being a wiseguy?

    Here’s some real facts for ya.
    -I just googled “Tom Brady wants out of NE”……..Fact
    -Came up with hundreds of articles saying Tom wanted out. Not the other way around…….Fact
    -All of everything you just said is 100% pure speculation and absolutely non factual……..Fact

    Guy, you should have listened to Nate and stopped embarrassing yourself. You are a total fraud………That or your just so soft in the head you really don’t understand what constitutes as fact.

    But I’ll leave you with this juicy nugget and it is a pure fact. 100%……..A week or two ago a Hall Of Fame player came out of retirement. He was under contract with Bill Bellichick. He didn’t come back to play for Bill. He came to Tampa to play for Tom and under Bruce.

  48. Zwak Says:

    Isn’t this why is we brought him here? I pretty sure his good under pressure Joe’s..

  49. JimmyJack Says:

    Issac…….Those are good points. I don’t get the point about RBs. It’s not like we made a drastic move at that position. Last time I checked we I vested more in RoJo well before Tom.

    I don’t think we suddenly now started investing in the OL. I do remember Sweezy being a big move. Jensen was a big move……..And we certainly made a big move to protect Winston when he was drafted by trading up in the draft and spending 2 second rounders on OL………And oh, we traded for Mankins………Considering all that I don’t think your argument holds much water…………I could take it a step further and say if Bruce had been here years ago Dotson might be long gone. The last coaching staff struggled mighty at evaluating and developing OL.

  50. JimmyJack Says:

    I’ve seen Brady get rattled under pressure. Can recall a couple Ravens teams completely dominating him and forcing mistakes with loads of pressure.

    Denver got to him pretty good on their SuperBowl run too.

  51. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    Bird that was an excellent burn.

    I think NDog is headed into trollmax territory, trying to ruin every thread over his dislike of one player. Well done NDog, you are in select company.

  52. crazyBucs_CL Says:

    @Ndog Says:
    “You sure are expecting a lot from a weak armed, non mobile QB in a new system, with new teammates, playing for a new coach for the first time in 20 years, and oh yeah he’s 43 years old!!!!!!…”
    we are expecting NOT to through the ball to our adversaries(that is call interception)…..5 years ….we got enough…thats what we want , and MUCH more 🙂

  53. JP09 Says:

    Here’s a couple facts:

    1) Winston is a 3rd string QB
    2) The Saints drafted another QB knowing they were going to sign Winston

    You still haven’t told me who you would throw the ball to when you have ME13, CG12, OJ, Perriman and Barber all split out (not to mention Barber was covered by the other teams #1 CB). Truth is I haven’t had to go any further than game 1 pick 6 #1 because it literally shows Winston’s inability to diagnose a defense pre snap and change the play and you still have no answer to it…….

  54. mark2001 Says:

    The litmus test on Buc fans and Jameis fans…

    If Jameis pulls some shenanigans and gets in trouble in New Orleans, is it the fault of the Bucs/ Glazers/Smith/Koetter/ Arias or Jamies?

    If you blame the Bucs/ Glazers/Smith/Koetter, you are strictly a Jameis fan.

    If you blame Jameis, you are a Bucs fan.

  55. WalkdaPlank Says:

    ”Ndogs only regret in life was that he was not the Uber driver that night“

    Funniest thing I’ve read today! And very true haha

  56. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Does “THE HUMBLE” Jaymiss not know when to STFU?

  57. SOEbuc Says:

    We needed a good RB that can protect the QB and catch the ball. With everyone else this oline is drooling to get on the field after the Wirfs pick. ROJO and/or Vaughn might be able to pick up some yards this year if we can make some holes.

  58. Oneilbucs Says:

    NDOG had a point Brady is 43 years old and yall rather not to develop our own quarterback and players and yall are more happy about a quarterback that haven’t done anything for us. This fanbase is a joke want yall hold this organization accountable for not being able to develop a quarterback . I guess when Rogers turns 41 yall will be screaming for him .

  59. Oneilbucs Says:

    Jamies went to a organization waaaaay better than ours and if he gets a chance to start he will be killing us for years to come .

  60. Youngbucs Says:

    Ok oneilbucs so go to that way better organizations blog websites. Why are you here why is ndog here go tell saints fans how great he is it’s their business now.

  61. JimbobBucsFan Says:

    I don’t agree that the Saints have an organization that is waaay better than ours today. It might have been true just a few years ago. We are in the midst of a cultural and actual turnaround somewhat equivalent to what happened during the Dungy-Gruden era.

  62. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Wirfs is getting the most attention as he should being the #1 pick. But he won’t be the only one protecting Brady.

    One of Vaughn’s major strengths is in pass pro. He likes it and realizes his bread will be buttered by his protection of Brady not by 1,000 yard seasons.

    Have you ever seen anything more beautiful than a LB or Safety execute what appears to be the perfectly timed blitz…through the gap…only to BOOM be wiped out by the running back who happens to also be a great blocker.

    Great blocking RB’s can erase a lot blown assignments by the OL.

  63. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    It’s honestly horrific how many people in here seem to be outright Jameis instead of buccaneers fans.

    Even some of the more ardent Winston supporters have accepted this and are happy with Brady. But others come in here every day and post about the mistake we all made about letting the turnover prone QB who has had some of the better QB coaching in the NFL walk.


  64. Issac haggins Says:

    Ro Jo can’t block or catch,,,, 3 rd round pick was for the best blocking back period ,,, this o line hasn’t ever sniffed the pro bowl !! I don’t know what people watch but I saw Jensen get destroyed numerous games, play ok others but he may be the slowest center in football. The point is Lichts team strategy has totally changed with the goat !! He didn’t take the best runner, he took the best blocker, he didn’t take the best athlete he did everything he could to put the absolute best protection piece for the Goat in place !!! Not a chance in hell Devin White gets picked at 13 let alone 5 under the current Licht Philosophy and that just shows he really ,just like the Colts knew how to handle a franchise qb pick ………. The # 1 overall pick got hit , pressured and beat around for 5 years and never ever had a line as good as Brady in any year and Brady should have a much better line this year than the #1 overall pick received…………..This isn’t about Winston it’s about Licht operating like a dam Govt always changing strategy after failure and not having a boss smart enough to figure it out !!! The guy literally tells on himself year after year for his own mistakes or mis steps and not many , especially the Glazer Boys are sharp enough to review the film. Btw ,what about a kicker , I’m not sold ,,,,, legendary leg but can’t hit it end over end inside 45 in 10 chances . He Can’t hit it end over end from 20 with a bucket of balls .

  65. Issac haggins Says:

    He really didn’t

  66. Ndog Says:

    Ok JimmyJack he didn’t want to go back to NE and spend his entire career with one team. Sure you keep believing that there tough guy. But then again you probably really think we are called Tompa Bay, you freaking lemining. You better get up early tomorrow and listen to your boy Stroud so he can tell you what to think and give you your talking points.

  67. JimmyJack Says:

    Oniel……We more happy about a QB that hasn’t done anything for us? That’s a good point. Bucs fans most of all should no better then to buy into big name free agency hype.

    I was one of the few that didn’t give a darn about Djax until he did something on the field….which never happened.

    But ya gotta admitt this one just feels different. Maybe it’s the position or the weapons or the coaching and defientally the Goat status don’t hurt……..But I’m getting on this hype train.

    Either way their was little to be happy about with that last QB. The flashes of brilliance was nice but the greif and heartbreak that man caused wasn’t making anybody happy…….That was pure depression after he ended his career here with yet another pick six.

    To trust that guy to win you a big game is just being a fool.

  68. JimmyJack Says:

    Oh boy NDog…….I thought that conversation was done. I caught you red-handed pushing off speculation as fact. You then patted yourself on the back about your facts which confirms you are a phony.

    Why even bring it back up? You just look dumber. And now you don’t even have a rebuttal. Your just name telling……..You know waht the great thing about the internet is? You don’t even have to walk away with your tail between your legs. You can just conviently dissappear and nobody is the wiser.

  69. SufferingSince76 Says:

    Bill Belichick is a good football coach, but quite a few people would argue that Vince Lombardi was the greatest coach of all time. His Packers won 5 NFL Championships and 2 Super Bowls in 8 years. They were. Consistently in the best of the best. Had he not died of cancer, there’s no telling how many more championships he could have had.

  70. Ndog Says:

    My goodness so many of you are completely CLUELESS. You look at absolute FACTS and call them excuses or imaginary. Tom Brady was begging for a long term contract from NE two years ago and they said no so now you think he didn’t want to be there? My goodness you people will believe anything to convince yourself this waa a good move. I get being a fan but to blindly believe everything they tell you is simply ridiculous yet you people fall for it everytime. Again where’s the plan going forward? What happens when Brady falls off the cliff, IF IT HASN’T ALREADY HAPPENED? So you people really believe a team with a new QB that has not learned a new system in 20 years, that clearly is not he once was, with no off-season and in the hardest division he has ever played in is going to win the Superbowl this year?

    And if you don’t believe that what is the point, cause once he leaves we have to start all over. Why this is ok with anyone is beyond me.

  71. Ndog Says:

    JimmyJack why would I walk away when I am correct? If the Patriots wanted him there he would be there period. If you don’t believe that then you are more gullable than I thought.

  72. ©MadMax Says:

    JW ball hugging, Buccaneer hating aints fans are still here writing essays? Jeeze, must suck to not have an actual life to live.

  73. groberts Says:

    I keep reading this narrative “Bucs have all chips in on Brady” or “have to win now” or “All drafted players are to help Brady”. Actually this is all media hype and does not relate to the concept of building a football team to win….with any QB!.

    If you have either a rookie QB or a 43 yr old brittle vet, do you want to have a strong offensive line?, a great defense? and good running game?…the answer is yes, yes and yes. It does not matter who is at QB, JL and BA are building this team to win for the long-term, no matter the QB!

  74. JimmyJack Says:

    NDog shut your fat yap you blubbering fool……….Nothing you said is a fact.
    Bottom Line
    Cased Closed
    End of Story

    You are freaking wrong dude. It’s borderline lying. Your a total fraud to try to pretend this is fact.

    The reality is it could be either way. I didn’t say he wanted to leave New England I just pointed at speculation that was the case. There’s speculation both ways dummy and only a handful of people actually freaking know.

    Stop pretending your one of them people that makes you a fraud.

    Either state something as opinion or quit lying and calling it fact………If you know that freaking much that nobody else knows you’d be making coin with people reading about all your insider knowledge. Phony Ass

    But at the end of the day Bucs fans really don’t give a rats ass. We care about results. And if we get em we don’t care how it happened.

    So how about this. I lied. I did Google what I said I did. But I lied about the results. There was nothing there and no story. You were freaking right the while time. And you caught me lying. So again your right dude.

  75. Sport Says:

    NDog lost all credibility for me when I posted a video showing JW strengths and weaknesses and NDog stated he didn’t watch it. If you have someone who stops seeking and learning, you have to move on from them. They are a lost cause.

    This dog can’t hunt.

    In BA I Trust!

  76. Youngbucs Says:

    Ndog is a loser oneilbucs is closing in fast though

  77. Ndog Says:

    @MadMax don’t be jealous I actually think for myself and don’t just go with what everyone tells me to think.

  78. Bird Says:

    Ndog claims facts

    Bucboi posted multiple comments last year that ndog claimed about jameis that were completely wrong. He made ndog look horrible

    Jimmy jack – dont let ndog get you worked up. He is one of the creepiest babies alive. I mean his love for jameis goes beyond footbAll
    Just laugh at
    Him. He is a joke

  79. Ndog Says:

    You guys are going to come so unhinged when Brady is not the God you think he is. See I know what’s coming so I won’t be devestated like you. Just wait father time NEVER loses.

  80. Youngbucs Says:

    Ndog all you do is repeat jameis1ofdumb. Right down to the everything I say is fact garbage. You’re just a cult follower don’t even know you’re leaders name. Don’t even know what he looks like. Do us a favor take your facts elsewhere he’s gone go join him.

  81. Ndog Says:

    Sport I watched every video there is brother you can’t send me anything I haven’t already seen, probably multiple times. Half these videos are made by some dude in their basement. I tend to watch videos of guys that actually played the game and can break down everything not try to guess at what went wrong. But again you don’t want FACTS you some guy to support your narrative that you have been preprogrammed to believe.

  82. JimmyJack Says:

    And so what if we are devasted? We should be devasted if that happens.

    Blood sweat and tears baby. That’s part of it.

    Are you really trying to act like that big if happening……if it happens…….prooves anything.

    It don’t. I’m sorry to tell you that since you seem to think it does.

  83. Ndog Says:

    No Youngbucs unlike you I actually think for myself. I research, I do my homework and yes many of the things he posts are exactly like mine because guess what he uses FACTS as well cause that is only way to shut you people who clearly have no quality argument. I have tons of notes a created myself on QBs first four years in the league that was passing at this time last year. You are going to believe what you want to believe but the FACTS are true and you can’t refute them. You can call me names, make jokes and all of that but at the end of the day we let go of a 26 year old, getting better, record breaking/holding QB for a guy who HAS won 7 Superbowls for another organization and has gotten worse each of the last four year’s. Those are FACTS and like them or not there is not a damn thing you can do to change them.

    Oh to answer the question you have been asking me since free agency started, Jameis Winston has been signed by the New Orleans Saints you know the team that has been whooping our a$$ for the last 10 years plus. And we just gave them the ammunition to do it for the next 10 years plus but you smart guys think it was a good move. SMH all day at you joker’s.

  84. JimmyJack Says:

    And you don’t need film break down. Just go rewatch the Houston game. That’s a game where your QB totally let’s the team down. That’s a type of game where you can lose the trust of your teammates………..That’s poor leadership.

    That was a playoff team and we had a lot to proove. Everybody in that team wanted that win and played like it. Pound for pound we beat the crap out of that team and Winston still couldn’t deliver………..He lost a lot of trust with that one is my guess.

  85. Sport Says:

    Ndog – you fell on your face again. As I stated, it shows his good and bad traits. You speak of others with narratives but you have drowned in your own.

    I’ve been fair to JW. Still am. Hope he has success. This reset could be great for him. He was the wrong guy to lead this team.

    But to not see a single shortcoming of JW is ignorance. You are not a bad person or unintelligent, you just completely ‘ignore’ other perspectives and fall back on tired tropes, insults of others and chase new data points about Beady to fit your narrative.

    Keep digging under the fence, I hope you find a way out and a better life.

    In BA I Trust!

  86. Sport Says:

    Brady Not Beady

    In BA I Trust!

  87. Sport Says:

    Also NDog – you claim to follow J1of1, where did he play ball to get his credentials?

    You n BA I Trust!

  88. JimmyJack Says:

    Bro you can write all the notes you want but you you won’t find some great QB in history put out a performance like that Houston game four years in. You don’t find that kind of stuff on a stats sheet……..You actually have to witness the performance to understand the context.

    And of course it’s not just that game. That was just a big one. Just like opening day. Just like dozens of others. It’s a repeated pattern buddy. It’s a problem and it’s always been.

    And now it’s not no more cause we got Brady.

  89. JimmyJack Says:

    Sport I caught that……Sounded like a fair video you had and NDog runs straight to belittling it and labeling. I guess that’s one way to argue…….Just namcall and run away.

  90. Youngbucs Says:

    Ndog is a loser

  91. Youngbucs Says:

    Bum broke the record for pick 6s in a season lol 100 year history and two were wipe out because of penalty yea he’s treading in the right direction 🤢

  92. Sport Says:

    JimmyJack – here is the vid for you to check out. It’s a great example of why it’s possible both sides are correct.

    In BA I Trust!

  93. Sport Says:

    JimmyJack – tried posting the Vid, got moderated. Google this

    “Winston FAILED in Tampa Bay, Is He a Starter in 2020”

    In BA I Trust!

  94. Sport Says:

    Hey Joes! Sorry to make you dig this out of moderation.

    Be Well!!!

    In BA I Trust!

  95. Jean Lafitte Says:

    Listen, when it’s all said and done at the end I have a feeling that all Tom Brady’s critics and his fans will admire what he has accomplished in his career, regardless of what seems to be a little bent up animosity or maybe jealousy towards him. If he does bring the Lombardi back to the Bucs in the same season Tampa Bay is hosting the Super Bowl. That would be an exclamation point on his first ballot induction into the Hall of Fame. They will build statues!
    This would be the best sports story ever written.

    And we may get to witness it.

  96. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    Holy god NDog is even more delusional then I thought who is this dude?

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he had Some creepy Winston shrine.

    Anyway He just needs to go root for the saints right now.

  97. Bucsfan951 Says:

    Bird Says:
    April 28th, 2020 at 4:22 pm
    Ndogs only regret in life was that he was not the Uber driver that night


  98. Bucsfan951 Says:

    Ndog Says:
    April 28th, 2020 at 10:50 pm
    No Youngbucs unlike you I actually think for myself. I research, I do my homework and yes many of the things he posts are exactly like mine because guess what he uses FACTS as well cause that is only way to shut you people who clearly have no quality argument. I have tons of notes a created myself on QBs first four years in the league that was passing at this time last year.

    1. Why not use the qbs first 5 years in the league?
    2. Even at that, do the actual games per yr match up?
    3. Here are some similar numbers from qbs in the league around the same time as JW.

    GOFF: 263 ypg, 1.61 td per game, .77 int per game
    WENTZ: 253 ypg, 1.73 td per game, .62 int per game
    CARR: 242 ypg, 1.52 td per game, .65 int per game
    WINSTON: 274 ypg, 1.68 td per game, 1.22 int per game

    All the numbers are somewhat similar except for?… INT %!!!!

    To be honest, Wentz is better statistically. Even Goff is up there, too



  99. ©MadMax Says:

    Ndog, unlike you, I have my own mind and can think for myself without the clout of a fantasy sex session with your boi Jameis. You really have become unhinged.

    Its to the point I think the Joes should consider taking some steps to help mitigate your craziness and stop allowing you an outlet here. Its like the more you do it, the more you become obsessed with it. You need help dude.

  100. adam from ny Says:

    ndog is the love child of tjmaxxcon…


  101. adam from ny Says:

    ndog jocks jameis…

    but yall jock ndog…


  102. mark2001 Says:

    Some of you guys act like Free Agency doesn’t exist. When Brady is gone, we may chose to find a talented FA to replace him..maybe someone like Aaron Rodgers, Bridgewater, Brad Johnson, and such. Or draft a kid next year. That is a couple years down the road. Frankly, to freak out about it now, and talk about keeping a failed QB that may never be a starting QB in the league again if he can’t curb his penchant to throw pick sixes is ridiculous.

  103. Buc1987 Says:

    Tampabuscsbro Says:

    “Holy god NDog is even more delusional then I thought who is this dude?

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he had Some creepy Winston shrine.”

    Oh he definitely has a shrine!

  104. Buc1987 Says:

    Ndog…how many picks will Jameis throw while riding the pine?

  105. LM Says:

    Man it feels good to be a Bucs fan!!!! Enless you’re Ndog butthurt cause America’s Joke Pro Groper Brainless Winston is riding the bench the rest of his career.