OL Drafting And Playoffs
April 15th, 2020
Draft history.
Now this is not meant to be a slap at the Bucs’ organization. Joe is posting the following because it is an interesting coincidence.
Just about every draft season Joe notices someone gripes about how, allegedly, the Bucs ignore the offensive line. That simply is not so.
The Bucs currently have two second-round picks, a third-round pick and a very, very expensive center on the starting front line. That’s not exactly a team that ignores an offensive line.
So take what you will from long-time Jets beat guy Rich Cimini, who types for BSPN. He seems to think there may be a correlation between a team not drafting an offensive lineman in the first round and losing.
Longest active droughts without selecting an OLM in the first round, per @ESPNStatsInfo:
▶️#Jets, 13 years (D’Brickashaw Ferguson, Nick Mangold)
▶️#Bucs, 13 years (Davin Joseph)
Droughts could end this year for both.
— Rich Cimini (@RichCimini) April 13, 2020
Since Davin Joseph was drafted in Round 1 by the Bucs in 2006, the same year the Jets last took an offensive lineman in the first round, the two teams have combined for four playoff appearances. That’s brutal.
And just like the Bucs, the Jets also had a lost decade in the 2010s. Neither team had a playoff appearance.
So is this just a weird coincidence or does it tell a bigger story?
Remember: The Browns drafted left tackle Joe Thomas No. 3 overall in 2007 (just before the Bucs picked that stiff Gaines Adams at No. 4) and the Browns haven’t made the playoffs since.
April 15th, 2020 at 5:59 am
TRENCHES! It’s where you win or lose football games.
April 15th, 2020 at 5:59 am
Yep, another reason to get our guy #14, especially if Wills is still there….but if he nor Thomas/Becton fell to us, then just trade back and maybe grab Ezra in the bottom of the first. The kid is pretty good, and the Bucs have already worked him out so they’ll know a little more than the rest of us. Sure would be nice to trade back twice and still land him. An extra 2nd and maybe an extra 3rd could do wonders for us.
April 15th, 2020 at 6:38 am
Trade down is always good move. Crap shoot predicting successful players. Quantity might be better approach than high end and limited selections.
April 15th, 2020 at 6:51 am
I like the idea of trading back rather than up – if such a move is needed.
April 15th, 2020 at 7:10 am
If we know Licht, he will double up on positions of need.
April 15th, 2020 at 7:19 am
Both teams used multiple 1st round picks on QB’s that didn’t pan out. Jets had Butt Fumble Sanchez and Geno Smith, Bucs had Josh Freeman and Jameis Winston. The Browns QB carousel is well known, Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden, Joe’s love child Johnny Manziel.
Bottom line, if you strike out on a 1st round QB it usually sets the team back for five years at a minimum.
April 15th, 2020 at 8:13 am
@Joe … “just before the Bucs picked that stiff Gaines Adams at No. 4”.
That’s cruel Joe.
April 15th, 2020 at 8:17 am
Jets made AFC championship 2x so not that bad; the bucs very bad. The GM in Tennessee had a specific plan where as licht has never had a plan nor vision on the proper way to build a winning sustainable nfl franchise.
April 15th, 2020 at 8:33 am
yep, So Licht is a good gm ,huh? look at his record!
April 15th, 2020 at 8:38 am
D.R.
Good point. I give Joe a pass on this one though. I think he was focused on Gaines playing days and forgot about the fact that Gaines is sadly six feet under.
Hard to believe a guy his age has been dead ten years now.
April 15th, 2020 at 8:40 am
If we know Licht, he will draft another kicker in this year’s draft.
April 15th, 2020 at 8:50 am
D rome lol maybe a long snapper
April 15th, 2020 at 9:19 am
Gaines adam passed away joe that’s was kind of tasteless…
April 15th, 2020 at 9:21 am
Gotbucs excellent point. I agree and would put much more stock into the QB correlation.
I think you can also look at most perrinal playoff teams and often see stability at the QB position.
OL important but QB is the true key.
April 15th, 2020 at 9:41 am
very classless joe….
GO BUCS!!!!!
April 15th, 2020 at 9:55 am
Do we have stats on how long Jameis holds on the ball after the snap?
April 15th, 2020 at 10:03 am
Defense Rules,
Yuuuuuuuuuuup!
Not nice at all.
Very cruel.
April 15th, 2020 at 10:22 am
and.. how many pro bowls out of this group? JL overdrafts OL from small scholls that why it looks like we heavily invested.
April 15th, 2020 at 10:50 am
If Wirfs or Willis aren’t there at 14, I think we should trade down and get Isaiah Wilson and more draft picks. Right OT is what we need, so that is what we should go for. Robert Hunt out of Louisiana-Lafayette would also be a nice late round pick up to backup at tackle and guard.
April 15th, 2020 at 11:11 am
Joe was talking about Adams’ football prowess (or lack thereof) and not his current state. Quit trying to find something wrong with every statement. That’s one of many things wrong with society.
April 15th, 2020 at 11:53 am
How does anyone know what Joe meant when he made that statement. Clear it up for us Joe.
April 15th, 2020 at 1:10 pm
Oh no, we know exactly what Joe means! You can just feel Joe’s utter distain for Adams. I mean he really hates him. His veins are probably popping out on his forehead just thinking about that poor bastard. As a matter of fact, as soon as the proletariat allows us out of our shacks, Joe’s going to jump in his car, find Adams’ grave and dig him up just so he can spit on him.
April 15th, 2020 at 3:23 pm
Maybe if we hadn’t spent draft picks on kickers and extra tight ends, we wouldn’t have needed to buy a center.
April 15th, 2020 at 3:26 pm
Defense Rules Says:
“That’s cruel Joe.”
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OMG, I didn’t even catch that. *stern face*
April 15th, 2020 at 3:36 pm
Wow, lighten up peeps! It was at least a little bit funny. You don’t want to go through life like a humorless German soap opera.
People die. It sucks, but you can’t stop it!