Another All-In Call For Round 2
April 24th, 2020
The new mock drafts are flowing everywhere for tonight’s Rounds 2 and 3 of the NFL Draft.
And yet another one thinks the Bucs will keep filling the gas tank with the high-octane stuff.
Longtime film junkie and NFL.com draft guru Lance Zeirlein, whose dad coached offensive line under Bucco Bruce Arians, thinks the Bucs will complement the acquisitions of Tom Brady, Rob Gronkowski and first-round right tackle Tristan Wirfs with a defensive player. Nahhhh! Just kidding.
Zeirlein’s pick is J.K. Dobbins, an instant-impact running back from Ohio State.
PICK 42: Jaguars – Jonathan Taylor – RB School: Wisconsin
Leonard Fournette appears to be on the way out. Taylor would be more than capable of filling that void.
PICK 43: Bears – Antoine Winfield Jr. – Safety – School: Minnesota
Tremendously instinctive safety with NFL bloodlines who adds to the Bears’ defensive IQ.
PICK 44: Colts – Robert Hunt – OL – School: Louisiana-Lafayette
Talented tackle/guard with outstanding athleticism who might have been a late first if not for injury.
PICK 45: Buccaneers – J.K. Dobbins – RB – School: Ohio State
The run on running backs continues, as Dobbins has “start now” potential for Tom Brady and the Bucs.
Dobbins had three years of big-time production at Ohio State, and he can catch, and many consider him a first-round talent. Is he a home run hitter running back? No. But the Bucs have plenty of sluggers in the lineup.
Going running back in Round 2 is the ultimate all-in-with-Brady move, so Joe expects that to happen, though Joe would love to see a defensive lineman taken in the second round.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:09 pm
Now would be a good time to trade OJ Howard
April 24th, 2020 at 1:10 pm
I hated to see the lsu kid go. I’d trade back a little if you go get an extra pick and grab the fsu rb, but if not,dobbins would be a solid choice.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:11 pm
An RB is the consensus but I have witnessed Licht picking a kicker in this round before. Anything is possible.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:11 pm
Package our second round pick with O.J. and our fifth for both of Belicheats 2s and a third.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:13 pm
Cam Akers not Dobbins is a 3 down back and would be a able to line up at WR just like BA wants his back to be able to do. He can do it all and block as well just like Derrick Brooks said. You have the best intel on him with DB55.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:13 pm
Just read this story of the Jags moment by moment draft:
an excerpt:That was the backup plan, however, and it wasn’t necessary: The Cardinals selected Simmons and, at 9:12 p.m., the Jags were officially on the clock. Caldwell, who was about to contact Henderson and inform the former Florida cornerback of his impending selection, instead fielded another call — from Tampa Bay Buccaneers general manager Jason Licht, who was looking to move up from the 14th pick. After a very quick conversation, Caldwell said to the Khans (who were on their yacht) and Marrone (who was home with his family), “Tampa would give us a third and a fourth, and he wants us to give a 6 back. I don’t really want to give the 6 back.”
interesting to see what Licht was willing to do–he wanted to give up a #3 and #4 for a #9 and a #6
April 24th, 2020 at 1:14 pm
RB and Safety seem to be the main needs.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:15 pm
@ Kalind
That trade would be awesome but only one that could play out in Madden20…
Lol. We couldn’t get a second round for OJ before the draft but now we will get two? I wish… But we could possibly trade OJ and a fifth rounder for ONE of New England’s second round picks I would be happy.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:16 pm
3rd and 4th round picks for #9 and a 6th round pick
April 24th, 2020 at 1:17 pm
@FiretheCannons. If that is true I am glad it didn’t work out. Licht usually saves his draft with his 3rd round pick.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:18 pm
OJ Howard for New Englands 2nd
April 24th, 2020 at 1:19 pm
Easily should be D Swift. Best back by far. Taylor has 8 drops out of 50 attempts last year, brick mits. Plus his fumbles. Dobbins slower, not nearly as good in pass pro or stuffiness.
Trade Howard and go up for Swift! Offense complete.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:19 pm
As Floridians aren’t we supposted to hate Ohio State? Oh wait……Gators/Seminoles. We hate our own self’s more.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:20 pm
Shifty-ness, wiggle.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:21 pm
You are a complete fool if you think the Bucs aren’t all in
April 24th, 2020 at 1:24 pm
Please please let us draft Swift. He is going to be special!’
April 24th, 2020 at 1:26 pm
Swift or Dobbins would be a wonderful thing.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:30 pm
I think this is what we have now
Round 2, pick 13 (No. 45)
Round 3, pick 12 (No. 76)
Round 5, pick 15 (No. 161)
Round 6, pick 15 (No. 194)
Round 7, pick 27 (No. 241)
Round 7, pick 31 (No. 245)
April 24th, 2020 at 1:31 pm
Licht was most likely worried with Cleveland and the Jets getting ready to pick. I wonder if he would of drafted Wills? Sometimes a little luck goes into things.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:33 pm
They’ll have to do something because the world knows they need a pass catching running back no one wants to see Dare back there logging major minutes again.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:33 pm
maybe our 5th and 7th could get us back in round 2
April 24th, 2020 at 1:39 pm
I’d like to see us select a rangy safety.. I feel we can still get a pass catching back in round 3. Would be nice to see winfield or delpit or maybe Chinn? Feel like this would have more of an impact.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:45 pm
Bucs should have never let RB Bruce Anderson III get away. He was a very good receiving back for NDSU. He’s now on Indy’s practice squad. When he finally got the start he tore it up in the last preseason game last year. Plus he was a returner. I would say he’s just as good as many of this drafts RB’s.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:46 pm
If New England wanted O.J. Howard, we would’ve already traded him there IMHO.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:48 pm
Dobbins is my guy! He is a game changer!
April 24th, 2020 at 1:53 pm
firethecannons
If true, it may have been in an effort to get one of the Olinemen because there was a run just after the Jags pick….but fortunately they turned us down and Wirfs became surprisingly available.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:54 pm
If they Bucs are truly “all in” and feeling like they have a major hole at RB, they have no choice but to TRADE UP here in the 2nd.
I stated all week, if the Bucs stay at #45 they’re going to most likely end up with the 5th ranked RB or worse in the draft. That’s just not good enough and too much of a gamble.
BUCS MUST TRADE UP.
We did it in 2012 and it worked out well (for a few seasons) with Doug Martin. They need to move up if they want to increase their odds of a game-changing back.
The Bucs probably liked CEH a lot but he may not have been the top RB on their board from their scouting. Odds are it’s either Swift or Taylor. THEY NEED TO GO GET HIM.
Our Offense is literally a solid RB away from being insane now with Gronk. Go get that Franchise Back we’ve been missing for so many years and solidify the Offense.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:55 pm
Lions and Dolphins are almost for sure going RB in the 2nd. We’ve got to get ahead of the Dolphins for sure.
April 24th, 2020 at 1:57 pm
Get Dobbins, then in Round 3, go best available defensive player on the board….
OR….if you really want to give TB12 some weapons, go back to Ohio State for KJ Hill…the all time catch leader in Buckeye history….who would be a great slot receiver in Tampa! Sure hands and a GREAT route runner! Brady’s new “Julian Edelman”.
April 24th, 2020 at 2:00 pm
Just a week ago Ivan was guaranteeing that none of the top 5 RB’s would be available at 45 and the team should overdraft a RB by roughly 20 picks in Rd 1 by predicting Swift and Taylor would be gone by Rd 2. Now he’s adjusted his stance to trading up in the second for the same players he wanted at 13. That’s some stellar “Inside” information Ivan!
April 24th, 2020 at 2:00 pm
I respectfully disagree, Joe. Dobbins is a Homerun hitting back. Check his film, stats, records broke and his life story. The kid is a fighter, runs angry, can catch, block and would be a perfect fit for the Bucs. I really hope he falls to us.
April 24th, 2020 at 2:00 pm
I agree with “Ivan The Insider”. We need a big time RB. Lets do it now!
April 24th, 2020 at 2:02 pm
draft is deep with RBs…
gotta go d-line R2….we need depth….
GO BUCS!!!!!!
April 24th, 2020 at 2:07 pm
Tom S.
You’re an absolute moron. First of all, our pick in the 1st round was #14 not 13. Your diapers are still full of poopy today over us trading a 4th round pick that you somehow forgot.
The philosophy is still the same. To get a game-changing back they were going to over to reach in the 1st or move up in the 2nd. I stated they could take the top rated back at 14 or even trade down a bit.
I didn’t state the top 5 RBs would be gone by our 2nd round pick. I’ve stated the Top 4 most likely would be, which increases the gamble that the 5th or worse rated RB would be a game-changer.
Again, you’re an idiot. You’re getting embarrassed trying to argue with me so you should just pipedown.
P.S. This entire site is tired of you being such a crybaby so give it a rest already.
April 24th, 2020 at 2:12 pm
Trade down in the 2nd to get another 3rd round pick then pick up a D-line, S, CB in Round 2…then see what’s out there – either use both 3rd picks to fill holes or package them up to get your guy.
April 24th, 2020 at 2:13 pm
The vast majority of running backs are only gods for a couple of seasons. Trading up for an RB should get a GM fired. Oh wait…ya go ahead Licht. Do us a favour. Trade the future away for an RB please.
April 24th, 2020 at 2:17 pm
SkBucsFan – that makes ZERO sense. We’d hardly be ‘trading away the future’ to move up in the 2nd round of the draft.
Some of you are so overly dramatic.
April 24th, 2020 at 2:20 pm
Hey but what if the Bucs like Akers as the RB they wanna add? Or in another pager another poster said Gibson could be a target? Why do they gotta trade up if they believe that guy they want will be avialable?
And pleas note that I said the guy they want…..not the guy you want or the guy on Mel Kiper board.
Or how do we even know they don’t got a sleeper pick they love in round 3? I bet y’all play some fantasy football. Know what a sleeper is.
April 24th, 2020 at 2:21 pm
That depends on what they would trade. Licht has pretty much only come through in the 3rd round of the drafts he has been in charge of.
April 24th, 2020 at 2:51 pm
Trade up to take Xavier McKinney, to solidify the passing defense…
April 24th, 2020 at 2:52 pm
What if OT Jones falls to the Bucs in round 2? Wirfs can play RG for one season while Jones plays RT for one season then replaces LT Smith next season and we slide Wirfs back out to RT. Starting OTs have become a very expensive asset lately.
Just throwing this out there. Pure speculation of course. I would be more excited to see a RB or WR…
April 24th, 2020 at 2:54 pm
Story on NFL.com front page–Jags war room last night–good read. JL willing to lose 3rd rd and 4th rd thank God he asked for a 6th round back all to move up 5 spots.
April 24th, 2020 at 2:56 pm
an excerpt:That was the backup plan, however, and it wasn’t necessary: The Cardinals selected Simmons and, at 9:12 p.m., the Jags were officially on the clock. Caldwell, who was about to contact Henderson and inform the former Florida cornerback of his impending selection, instead fielded another call — from Tampa Bay Buccaneers general manager Jason Licht, who was looking to move up from the 14th pick. After a very quick conversation, Caldwell said to the Khans (who were on their yacht) and Marrone (who was home with his family), “Tampa would give us a third and a fourth, and he wants us to give a 6 back. I don’t really want to give the 6 back.”
April 24th, 2020 at 3:16 pm
From the way Arians talked last night, about if he was tempted by a WR, it does make me think he’s taking one in the 2nd or 3rd, depending on how the draft falls. But who knows, I could certainly be wrong.
I said before the Gronk trade the team can not possibly go into the season with the #3 WR, a starter for the offense, being Scotty Miller, and I still stand by that. But I’m really hoping they plan on using Gronk or OJ mostly as WR – and I really hope it’s OJ since they could tell him to lose some weight over the next few months – what a monster a 6′ 6″ OJ would be, he ran a 4.51 at 251lbs, if he dropped to 225-230lb he should be in that 4.4 range — and lined up outside over some 5′ 9″ 185lb corners, with Evans, Godwin and Gronk on the field as well, yikes to the defensive coordinator trying to deal with that.
Anywho I’m at peace with taking a RB if that’s where they go so long as they don’t dump one of the TEs and plan on actually using them.
April 24th, 2020 at 3:28 pm
You never know how the draft will fall… If we let it come to us and the RB we want is gone I would be happy with Epenesa or Delpit. If there is a RB we really want then package our 2nd and OJ to move up and get him.
April 24th, 2020 at 3:33 pm
Rod,
I think you’re dead-on about a WR. I mentioned a week ago that it wouldn’t completely shocking to see the Bucs go Ruggs in the 1st as an outside possibility. Arians can’t be happy about losing Perriman and having that 3rd WR, especially someone with speed.
They ‘could’ take a WR in the 2nd, but I don’t see it happening only because it’s a deep draft and if the cream of the crop WRs are already off the board, they can probably get a decent one in the 3rd or 5th.
To me this 2nd round pick is going to be RB. They can’t afford to gamble and try to take one in the later rounds and most likely end up with another Jeremy McNichols. If they truly feel that RB is a big need, they’re going RB in the 2nd.
April 24th, 2020 at 3:50 pm
Dobbins or Akers. Either one is ok.
April 24th, 2020 at 3:50 pm
Ivan – I was thinking the Bucs should take a WR, but that was assuming on the top 4 tackles would be gone. But I’m still not sold on the fact the team needs a RB, Ronnie finished the season strong and looked great. The team needs a 3rd down back, but there’s a bunch available in FA still, vets that can still play and who you can almost certainly get for the vet minimum. When a WR like Robbie Andersen is getting $12m, like Todd Gurley is getting $6m, that tells me you spend your high picks on positions that cost a ton to replace.
Instead of drafting a RB, just sign a guy like Devonta Freeman, Chris Thompson, Theo Riddick, Bilal Powell, Ty Montgomery, etc – those guys are all available for free and can catch the ball.
Then you use your 2nd rounder on a WR. Like say Pittman Jr fell, the guy looks like an Evans clone, completely pro-ready to my eye – that would, to me, make a lot more sense since if you hit on him, it helps keep the price of Godwin under control by limiting Godwin’s stats this year. Plus, if he’s as good as I think he is, you have an emergency fallback if the worst happens and somehow the team couldn’t afford Godwin (which I don’t think will happen, but just saying). Also considering we’ve lost our #1 or #2 every single season for the last 5 seasons for at least multiple games, we need a legit #3.
April 24th, 2020 at 3:56 pm
I rather we go Def in the 2nd round. we still need a pass rusher and a safety
April 24th, 2020 at 3:57 pm
I think only one RB will be taken before the Bucs pick. The dolphins most likely. The lions have karryone Johnson and Bo Scarbough I don’t think RB is their biggest need. We will see soon if Ivan is correct or not that 3 of the next 12 picks ar RBs. The top 5 backs a ranking is all over the place so it’s not like the 5th back chosen is necessary the 5th worst back. Different backs fit different systems better. If the Bucs moved up in the 2nd it would be for S X. McKinney.
I’d love to see Dobbins or Akers in Pewter/red. I could also see them picking a Saftey next at 45 like Chinn and going with the RB/WR Gibson in day 3.
April 24th, 2020 at 3:58 pm
Marine – While I think the team needs a #3 WR badly (I don’t think they need a RB at all in the draft), I still love the idea of taking another OT if someone fell. To me you keep Wirfs at RT and the LT is your guy in training to take over for Smith next year since he’s probably going to be too expensive to keep. So if the pick is ready to play next year you free up $15m, which is needed for Godwin or anywhere else.
If a top T isn’t there, then same thing goes for a G/C, with the idea of replacing Jensen next year. While the team has mostly got away with starting young guys right away, ideally you want them to sit and learn for a year so you don’t get your QB killed. Winston was very very durable – but who knows about Brady at his age. So while this is really only a 2-year plan the team should be working on, getting those future offensive lineman ready to go now, for next season when you need that cap space, is something the team should strongly consider.
Also the team needs to try to convince Winston to take a vet min 1-year deal to be the backup – that way if Brady does get killed or suddenly looks old, the team still has the NFL’s leading passer coming in off the bench. What a coup that would be, plus Winston has already said he can’t get mad at losing his job to the GOAT.
April 24th, 2020 at 4:03 pm
@ Rod
Agreed. Plus did you see OT Tunsil just signed for $22 million per season. Good OTs are becoming very expensive.
April 24th, 2020 at 4:09 pm
STICK WITH THE PLAN! RB in Rd 2. No time to get cute. Safety in Rd. 3.
April 24th, 2020 at 4:09 pm
Keep OJ. Gronk needs him if Gronk wants to play all year. Gronk takes a beatdown!
April 24th, 2020 at 4:14 pm
Marine – Wow, I just saw that after you mentioned it. $22m for a tackle… Tunsil is great, but that is hell of a lot of money.
April 24th, 2020 at 4:26 pm
Am I wrong in thinking the talent at safety in rd 3 will be a much bigger drop off than the talent in RB? I feel like we can stil get a decent RB in 3, but there will be a run in Rd 2 on most of the safeties that dropped.
April 24th, 2020 at 4:28 pm
I would say get the safety. I want Winfield JR. Lichts going to draft a kicker its tradition.
April 24th, 2020 at 4:39 pm
Rod,
Freeman and some of those other FA backs are going to cost a lot more than what a 2nd round rookie would cost. We’re limited with cap space.
If the Bucs don’t go RB in the 2nd my bet is on safety; and that’s only if they have no faith in Justin Evans. McKinney or Delpit might still be in play.
April 24th, 2020 at 4:47 pm
Ivan I am many things, but I don’t pretend to be someone I’m not on a message board to impress people I’ll never meet. And the 13th vs 14th is brief error as I’ve already pointed out you were calling for the Bucs to use their first round pick on a RB. Because. You. Know. Nothing. And. You. Know. No one.
April 24th, 2020 at 5:14 pm
We need a RB in round 2, preferably Dobbins or Akers. We need a WR in Round 3. If we can trade OJ somewhere along the line and pick up extra pick(s) tonight, all the better.
April 24th, 2020 at 5:18 pm
Dobbins would be a solid pick as would Swift. They could both be gone before we pick again. Safety could be a pick as well but I expect a RB or slot WR. We are all in and know we need those 2 spots to complete our offense
April 24th, 2020 at 5:22 pm
Trade OJ and move up for Safety XavMck!
April 24th, 2020 at 5:28 pm
Pats need a TE, go get their #37!
April 24th, 2020 at 5:33 pm
Tom S.
If you’d like to make a friendly $1K wager that I know no one (agents, execs, etc.) please let me know and happy to prove it with money on the line. We can use Escrow dot com in advance to hold the funds.
I’m not trying to impress anyone with me using an obviously anonymous username on a Bucs news site.
April 24th, 2020 at 5:39 pm
Im the ultimate anonymous insider here Ivan….GET OFF MY LAWN!
April 24th, 2020 at 5:41 pm
Please keep O.J. if we keep all of three they will always be ready to go, Gronk isn’t young and may get hurt!
April 24th, 2020 at 6:15 pm
MadMax,
Haha. I know, I’m just trying to come in 2nd. 🙂
April 24th, 2020 at 6:33 pm
How is that the ultimate all in move because of Brady? They need to take a running back whether Brady is here or not.
I just hope they get Swift, Taylor, or Akers.
Dobbins would be my last choice of those 4, but I would take him
April 24th, 2020 at 6:50 pm
A WR in the 2 Nd round with all the receivers we have right?
Needs still RB S DT CB just in case
Howard for 2nd might change that but I don’t see it happening