The Return Of Suh?
March 25th, 2020
New contract with Bucs.
[UPDATE: 3:41 p.m.] It seems a huge part of the Bucs’ defensive puzzle has been solved.
Adam Schefter of BSPN wasn’t quite ready to close the door on the deal, but Schefter claims Pro Bowl defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh and the Bucs have agreed to terms on a one-year pact at some $8 million.
This is key.
Suh was a huge reason the Bucs run game was so good last year and because Suh can be so dominant up front, teams didn’t dare double-team Vita Vea much and we all saw the result of that, didn’t we?
It is also good news that Suh returns because he is so durable. The only starts he missed in his career were due to a suspension. That was almost a decade ago.
[UPDATE: 3:41 p.m.] In a conference call with local Bucs reporters this afternoon, Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians had the following to say about re-signing Suh.
“I wanted the entire defense, if we could, to stay together,” Arians said. “They played so well together. Suh was a big, big part of it, obviously. Not as much in the sack game [but] as much as his interior pressure and what he did against the run.”
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One of the greatest, smartest & hardest working vet that I ever been around š¤ š„ Needed him back #ThankYou @NdamukongSuh https://t.co/1IKbk5C08z
ā DEVIN WHITE 4ļøā£0ļøā£ (@DevinWhite__40) March 25, 2020
March 25th, 2020 at 2:30 pm
Good stuff
March 25th, 2020 at 2:30 pm
Letās roll !!!!
March 25th, 2020 at 2:31 pm
He’s an important piece of the whole puzzle. This allows us more flexibility in the draft as well. Expected move, but you never know with these things…
March 25th, 2020 at 2:33 pm
Best offseason news ever!!!! This was bigger than Brady. Hes the real 93 we needed
March 25th, 2020 at 2:34 pm
Fantastic news!
March 25th, 2020 at 2:34 pm
He made our dl a dline….he made aaron donald…2019 wasnt a big year for aaron Donald.
March 25th, 2020 at 2:34 pm
Great news!!
March 25th, 2020 at 2:35 pm
Gotta be OT at #14 so trade up if need be.
Still think Brate is tradeable.
March 25th, 2020 at 2:35 pm
itĀ“s offical!!!! Now a quality safty a RB and trenches, and we will be a very good team now!!!!!
March 25th, 2020 at 2:35 pm
Great. Best run defense in the NFL folks! Our DBs are going to be more experienced and better as well. Top 5 defensive unit this year.
Go Bucs!!!
March 25th, 2020 at 2:37 pm
Nice to get this done before the draft.
March 25th, 2020 at 2:38 pm
awesome news; if the backend improves this year & barrett & jpp play at high levels this could be a great year. Mike Evans may break nfl TD record this year
March 25th, 2020 at 2:38 pm
Yes!
March 25th, 2020 at 2:38 pm
LOVE it! I was saying all offseason I was hoping we would get him back. I love him and Vea up front. Cheaper deal than last year, I canāt wait to see this defense and out Brady led offense! Go Bucs!
March 25th, 2020 at 2:38 pm
He seemed like a dirty player in Detroit…
March 25th, 2020 at 2:38 pm
261 snaps against double teams last year, 3rd most in the NFL. And someone said earlier he was a slacker and Vea ate up most of the double teams.
March 25th, 2020 at 2:39 pm
AWESOME NEWS!!
He made us SO much better last year, and was a force.
March 25th, 2020 at 2:39 pm
Expected and now itās official! Now to solidly the OL, get a legit RB, and add Safety help! Letās Goooooo!!
March 25th, 2020 at 2:39 pm
Suh, Vita, Shaq, JPP, Lavonte, and White…havenāt seen that kind of defensive talent around here in a long time. Hopefully the young secondary can continue to improve and this could be a damn good defense. Need a safety and some depth, but I like the direction this team is finally headed.
March 25th, 2020 at 2:42 pm
He left his agent yesterday and agrees to a contract today. Nice
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Free agent NFL DT Ndamukong Suh has left CAA Sports as a client.
March 25th, 2020 at 2:43 pm
I definitely wanted him back. Hopefully, 7mil plus incentives…but worth the price.
March 25th, 2020 at 2:44 pm
I freaking love this guy. Glad hes back and hope to see him crush someone this season
March 25th, 2020 at 2:44 pm
Boom!!! The main (hardest to replace) pieces of the defense are back. Iām so excited. Now we can go use on the draft.
At Billy, completely agree. Even if it means trading up, we need one of these top 4 Offensive Tackles.
March 25th, 2020 at 2:47 pm
Good, seems like he got the money Perriman was going to get.
Which is fine, Breshad Perriman could be great, and he has always had amazing potential but never really takes the next steps. Flashes, glimpses, but never a star. Maybe couldve been if we didnt have Godwin.
Go Bucs, or as Brady says “LETS GO”
March 25th, 2020 at 2:47 pm
Oh yeah , and TIDDIES
March 25th, 2020 at 2:50 pm
Glad to hear that. Getting excited.
March 25th, 2020 at 2:50 pm
Yes yes yes yes yes!!!!!! I was nervous yall. I won’t lie. Suh is just one of them guys that shreds his own trail so there was no telling what he was thinking.
It was a freaking pleasure to watch nobody be able to run on us last year. And watching this team come through with all the goalline stands we did!! That made me proud.
I did not wanna lose that. And if Suh left we probably do.Now we are ready to rock and roll. Keep building on what we had. And bring in a couple quality pieces to help.
Don’t sleep on some of these lower priced free agents we grab neither. Especially at the LB position where we found Shaq. And we also got Perriman on the cheap too.
Great news and GO BUCS!!!
March 25th, 2020 at 2:51 pm
Excellent.
The front seven is intact. Here is hoping Nelson brings it as well as Nassib.
Sign or trade for a decent RT, then a RB at #1 might be the ticket to a balanced offense.
March 25th, 2020 at 2:52 pm
I am sad it’s just a one year deal. Was hoping 2.
March 25th, 2020 at 2:52 pm
Great signing. Now we need to shore up our depth… list Nassib and Allen, I believe Our backups consist of NuƱes-Rochez, our 5th rounder from last year (canāt remember his name lol) and Gholston… would not mind adding a couple more bodies via free agency or the draft
March 25th, 2020 at 2:53 pm
Lost Nassib and allen*
March 25th, 2020 at 2:53 pm
What a sigh of relief!!!!!!!!
Well back big guy! I love watching Suh be selfless player on the team and give JPP, Barret, Minter and White the ability to attack.
#93
March 25th, 2020 at 2:55 pm
This is big time signing! Our D-Line is still a force add some depth with big body in draft later rounds O-Line round 1 RB round 2 use extra 4th to get back up in 2nd round get a speedy WR I think we ok with safety with Edwards, Whitehead, Adams, Decota Dixon coming back from injury, and hopefully Evans which would be like getting a free agent if we can get him back.
March 25th, 2020 at 2:55 pm
I heard it’s a 1 year, $8 million deal. Glad he’s back!
March 25th, 2020 at 2:57 pm
If you just look at last year when we had our entire team healthy last year, once the defense could actually stop teams from passing at will, we went 5-1. 5 and freaking 1 so this team was so close last year if we could just get a kicker to make important kicks and this defense simply plays against good teams the way they finished the season we should be in every game again. Now I truly don’t expect us to have the same offensive production as we did last year but despite that with our defense being better all year and us hopefully not spending 8 straight weeks on the road we should be good to go.
March 25th, 2020 at 2:59 pm
hey joe’s, question for ya’ll, how do you think this effects, how the bucs will draft?
March 25th, 2020 at 2:59 pm
great news….
now go get trent williams or jason peters….
once the draft rolls around draft
JPPs replacement
SUHs replacement
Dotsons replacement
Bradys replacement
andrew adams replacement
barbers replacement
GO BUCS!!!!!
March 25th, 2020 at 3:00 pm
We needed this signing…….$8 mil is only $1 mil over what I would have liked….but OK…..just to keep the continuity of our front 7 together……Stop the run & improve on the pass defense…….all good!!!
March 25th, 2020 at 3:00 pm
Losing Nassib was bad enough, so this is great news!
March 25th, 2020 at 3:01 pm
Npuppy still sad about J-booboo
March 25th, 2020 at 3:01 pm
There’s 6 stud OT’s, which one is the best, who knows?
Trade back in the 1st for someone who is in love with one of the top 3 WR’s or top 2 DT’s or one of the top 4 QB’s that will be available at #14.
I like trading #14 for #21 and #53. Pick up Josh Jones OT Houston and then Gross-Matos Edge from Penn State at #45. Then with #53 take the best RB left on the board and there will be quality left at that pick.
Great that they signed Suh before the draft, takes away the temptation to take Javon Elliot who has tendinitis in his knee. Ouch!
March 25th, 2020 at 3:01 pm
Man if we draft a safety with our 1s or second pick I’m gonna be real excited. Let this scouting team find another OLB for cheap like they did Shaq and find a quality veteran CB to solidify our backend.
With the signings of Minter and Adams we could have a defense with basically no holes. Starters and second team.
March 25th, 2020 at 3:03 pm
ndog
i dont expect us to have the same offensive production either…..
IT’LL BE BETTER!!!!!!!…..
MORE TDs
MORE WINS
LESS INTs
go back to your kennel….
GO BUCS!!!!
March 25th, 2020 at 3:07 pm
OT/RB
RB/OT/SECONDARY
WR
(This would be my preference. I am ok with skipping secondary if they go OT, RB, WR)
With how deep this WR class is, I think we have to WR in the third or fourth round.
March 25th, 2020 at 3:08 pm
Ndog,
Biggest culprit for losing was turnovers. We gained QB efficiency AND leadership. Letās go Bucs!
March 25th, 2020 at 3:08 pm
even if we need to trade up we need to get wirfs!!
March 25th, 2020 at 3:08 pm
If we run the ball better we don’t need the same offensive stats.
And actually you could actually make a case that if we put up more rushing yards it is a much more productive offense even if it’s less yards overall. Provided that we are able to move the ball through the air.
Forget the numbers and stats though. When this offense has the ball in their hands and a chance to go ahead in the two minute drill…….those will be the pisesdions that will truely be the difference maker.
March 25th, 2020 at 3:11 pm
How much cap space do we have left now?
March 25th, 2020 at 3:11 pm
Yup. Brady is gonna have 20+ ints in his first year in the “the risk it” system
March 25th, 2020 at 3:13 pm
Outstanding!!!
March 25th, 2020 at 3:14 pm
There was a time when people weren’t that happy about #93. Now we are…times have changed for sure.
March 25th, 2020 at 3:14 pm
A key piece to whatās shaping up to a special season. A fair deal for both sides.
March 25th, 2020 at 3:15 pm
Awesome news.
March 25th, 2020 at 3:17 pm
Stupid question but – Are we the first team that Suh has signed 2 contracts with?
March 25th, 2020 at 3:23 pm
Hated to see Nassib go! Can’t keep em all!
March 25th, 2020 at 3:24 pm
SUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! YEah buddy!!! This is huge news!!!! This definitely gives us more flexibility going into the draft.
March 25th, 2020 at 3:25 pm
Great. Now .. if one year wonder doesnāt get 15 plus sacks he is a bust and officially the worst free agent ever for bucs.
March 25th, 2020 at 3:26 pm
No SteveK the biggest culprit for losing was a league worst defense the first 10 games, no running game, a crappy kicker and total TOs, but you keep repeating yourself over and over till someone actually believes you, cause we know that’s all your going to do anyways.
March 25th, 2020 at 3:32 pm
Cool. now the Bucs can trade down from 14 and get another second round pick.
Use the lower 1st round pick for one of the top three safeties.
2nd round: Rt and RB
3rd round: QB
4th: IDL and backup O-line
5 and 6: best sthletes
March 25th, 2020 at 3:32 pm
awesome…….. he is tough and nasty …..YES
March 25th, 2020 at 3:33 pm
Yes JimmyJack, I was nervous too, but it worked out. BTW, it’s good to see that virtually all JBFers appreciate greatness. Ndamukong Suh was the key to the defensive puzzle. With him in the fold we have a great balance on defense between experience & youth. Great leadership presence that our young guys can still learn a lot from.
And Cobraboy, you hit the nail on the head with the RT then RB, but I still think we’ll grab BOTH of them in the draft as opposed to a FA signing then draft. Over-the-Cap shows us with $22.0 mil in salary Cap space now with Brate’s restructuring ($2.25 mil), and signings of Haeg ($2.3 mil) & Nunez-Roches ($1.5 mil) included. Yet to be included though are Adams (probably around $1 mil) and Suh ($8 mil apparently), so I think that’ll take us down to $14.3 mil left (after the Top-51 bottom 2 fall off).
We still need a few more groceries though, like a veteran QB (maybe $5 mil), a veteran Safety (maybe $5 mil), and signing the rookie pool (almost $8 mil). Of course those 9 players would replace the bottom-9 in the Top-51 & we’d pick up a little over $6 mil there probably, so we’re good. I just can’t see us making a big name signing at this point, but never say never. Nor do we need to if we draft smart. Bucs are in better shape than we’ve been in in a long time from a roster perspective.
March 25th, 2020 at 3:33 pm
Awesome! Add an offensive lineman or two and a top RB in the Draft, and we are ready to roll!
March 25th, 2020 at 3:34 pm
Ndog
ābut you keep repeating yourself over and over till someone actually believes you, cause we know thatās all your going to do anyways.ā
Do you ever actually here yourself?
Joeās gotta put up one of those āI am not a robotā things up for your posts….
March 25th, 2020 at 3:38 pm
Very nice!
March 25th, 2020 at 3:44 pm
Now that you’ve signed Suh, you have $10M left after the set aside for the draft. So what do you do with it?
Free agents – RB Dion Lewis (yes), OT Dotson or Peters (meh), S Tony Peters (too expensive)
New Contracts – Lavonte and Godwin (maybe)
Trade – D Smith and a day 3 pick for Trent Williams, signing him to a long term contract (yes).
March 25th, 2020 at 3:46 pm
gobucsfan: Are we the first team that Suh has signed 2 contracts with?
Yes, Suh played 5 years in Detroit on a 5 year deal
3 years in Miami on a 6 year deal (cut after 3)
1 year with the Rams
March 25th, 2020 at 3:46 pm
Look at Devin Whites statement. Look at it!! I want the clown who called Suh a loafer to reveal yourself right now!!!
Read it and weep buddy.
March 25th, 2020 at 3:48 pm
Ndog,
More turnovers than touchdowns is horrible.
The defense was fifth in takeaways.
Jameisā turnovers are why he remains unsigned.
Do points off turnovers count against the D? Bc defenses also scored 121 points off turnovers, or 7.5ppg. Do you subtract that from offensive production to get a true, net value? Of course you donāt bc your head would explode and it breaks your logic on Jameis. He is unsigned for a reason.
March 25th, 2020 at 3:49 pm
Hell Yeah!!!!
March 25th, 2020 at 3:50 pm
This is a big one! Was really hoping the Bucs wouldnāt lose him and creste another need! Now we can address that right tackle position with the first pick.
March 25th, 2020 at 3:52 pm
Wish we could have kept Nassib.
He was solid
March 25th, 2020 at 3:53 pm
Bucs Guy……You worry about Godwin’s contract before you hit camp. After you bring in what pieces you want.
If by then you can restructure some guys and pay Chris that when you do it. For now you focus on avialable players.
For me I’m wondering what the plan is for this Heag guy at Tackle. Maybe have him compete for a spot with a second or third rounder?
Buy me a RB and a vet corner for now. Buy Watford back and spot me another OLB like we did with Shaq last year.
Hopefully Todd has his eyes on a safety in the draft. He’s had great success with rookies at that position before.
March 25th, 2020 at 3:53 pm
Ndog,
You treasure a rookie, 5th round kicker for inconsistency, but place a fifth year, former number one overall pick on a pedestal- and the #1 pick makes many, many more mistakes.
Itās not objective and it must be. Sorry to fight with you, but I refuse to have anything but the full truth.
March 25th, 2020 at 3:54 pm
It figures! We finally get a super bowl caliber team and the worldās coming to an end!
March 25th, 2020 at 3:55 pm
The Bucs wanted to keep the DLine (front 7) together. With 6 as possible FAs, you knew this was unlikely. The Bucs re-signed the top 3 (Shaq, JPP and Suh) to team with Vea. They also kept Roches. So you lost #5 Nassib and #7 Allen.
I would have liked to keep Nassib, but not at the price he signed. His replacement is already on the team (Nelson). Bucs needed to get younger by replacing Allen. Well done!!!
March 25th, 2020 at 3:59 pm
Defense Rules……Just one thing to note is that them CAP websites are guesswork. They don’t know how these new contracts are structured so they have to guess based off averages. We could have more or less based on how we structure the deals.
Now I believe Suhs contract is cut and dry because it’s one year. Same with Shaq because it’s a tag. But we could long-term Shaq later and structure it to free up some space for 2020.
We could also resturcture quite a few players to get more money for us while the players get more guaranteed money. A few obvisous players we could restructure is Marpet, Jensen or LVD. But if it was me I would not restructe them til later and see if we can use that CAP space to extend Chris Godwin.
March 25th, 2020 at 4:04 pm
@Ghost
Based on the draft rankings across all sites, it seems there is a pretty big range on who the top OTs are after the top 4 and where they grade out going from R1-R3.
The internet know-nothing drafter in me basically says take one of those top 4 if they are there for the value, and only trade down if they aren’t.
I’d also be OK with Kinlaw without a trade down if those top 4 are gone and he truly is the best pass rushing DT in the draft. Then target your RT in R2, moving up if needed.
Another consideratoin: f there is one position Gump has actually shown an ability to draft in the 2nd round it’s OL.
March 25th, 2020 at 4:10 pm
Thanks @ Defense
I figured we had about 6 Mill.
Still wish we would get Peters or Williams.
We are still lower at O Line in terms of spent salary than most of the NFL per NFL Network.
Then we could truly take Ruggs even at 14.
Wouldn’t it be fun to have a luxury pick like that?
March 25th, 2020 at 4:10 pm
No it’s not objective in any way shape or form to not say the shotty kicking, porus defense and non-existent running game played a major role in our record last as did the TOs. They all were the reasons for 7-9 and anyone that denies that is just plain CLUELESS.
March 25th, 2020 at 4:11 pm
This team is starting to look like one. A Real One.
March 25th, 2020 at 4:12 pm
@LordCorn – that scenario wouldn’t suck at all.
March 25th, 2020 at 4:17 pm
Billy and Marine
Agree we MAY need to trade up to get our RT….not one of our established players like Brate but we have an extra 4th…we have some picks to work with.
IF we had a shot at Bechton, Wirfs who are borderline generational…certainly physical freaks gotta try and move up.
Now that we have Suh we can focus on the draft. It could come down to Licht’s/BA’s poker playing….and how the cookie crumbles…how many QB’s..several DL..who knows. If we haven’t used all of our luck maybe one of the top four will fall to us at 14.
March 25th, 2020 at 4:19 pm
That’s right NDog……All them factors played a role in it. I’ve yet to find one Buc fan to deny that.
So we upgraded QB. And nobody says we should stop there. We should add a kicker in case Matt Gay does not improve at his short range. Then we should upgrade at RB and at OL.
The defense showed improvement last year so that’s why they have been kept together. I will still guess that the team is planning on adding pieces(specifically in the backfield) in case some of our players regress.
March 25th, 2020 at 4:20 pm
YESSSSSSS!
March 25th, 2020 at 4:22 pm
@StPete: “Now that we have Suh we can focus on the draft.” we need to address RB soon too. Draft or…?
March 25th, 2020 at 4:23 pm
@Jimmy- I’d hope they’d address RB before kicker. Even with Gay you can go for 2, and Brady didn’t come here to get FGs right?
March 25th, 2020 at 4:25 pm
Ndog,
Bring in the best kicker and defender possible. Jameis was not the only issue last year, but his play by far was the biggest impact in our losing. Bc he touches the ball every play and is the executioner of the offense. A lot of great and a lot of outright horrible.
March 25th, 2020 at 4:28 pm
Probably going to try and trade up in the draft to get one of top four offensive tackles
March 25th, 2020 at 4:31 pm
Nice. Was waiting to see what was going to happen here:
1. One of the top four OT or Kinlaw
2. RB
3. OLB
4. S
5. QB
6. WR
7. OL/DL
March 25th, 2020 at 4:38 pm
Hell F%ck Yeah!!!
Welcome Back Suh
March 25th, 2020 at 4:39 pm
Great news! Now we need o-line help, a stud running back, and a stand out veteran for our secondary. A q.b. to learn from Brady for a couple of years would be the cherry on top, but acquiring one is much easier said then done.
March 25th, 2020 at 4:40 pm
Oh and a slot receiver.
March 25th, 2020 at 4:45 pm
At SOE,
I like your draft priorities for the most part but I would swap 3 and 5. I think Brady replacement is more important to sit for two years and learn from the GOAT. JPP and Shaq will be together for at least another 2 years so we can make OLB a priority next year. But drafting one in lower rounds would still be smart.
March 25th, 2020 at 4:47 pm
JimmyJack … It’s not JUST the Cap websites that are guesswork IMO … everything is one big guess until the Fat Lady sings. I’m ‘guessing’ that the 2 major Cap sites do their work independently (competition is a beautiful thing) and so the ‘truth’ probably lies someplace in the middle. Fortunately there’s not usually a whole bunch of difference between the two.
Not a big fan of restructuring contracts, and apparently neither are the Bucs. In the end, dead money mounts up & bites you in the arse. However, there are some times when you have no choice & it ends up being the best thing to do in a bad situation. Example: when we restructured Mike Evans contract last year to gain needed Cap room. Mike’s dead Cap this year is $18.2 mil, then drops to $4.8 mil next year, which says ‘Mike, you ain’t goin no place’. In his case, that’s a good thing, for Mike & for us. But in the case of Tom Brady, New England is eating $13.5 mil in dead Cap this year because of his previous contract. That sucks … for THEM, not us. Lots of other teams did exactly the same thing and are now paying for it. Not the Bucs.
March 25th, 2020 at 4:48 pm
ChanEpic. Absolutely.
For now there is not much they can do expect bring in Competition for Gay in Training Camp.
And it’s likely Gay wins the job unless he really falters. He does have very high potential if he can fix he’s short game.
No matter what there is no possible way to replicate the pressure of kicking in real games. In reality the best way to probably address the kicker spot might be having a reliable kicker on speed dial in case you need to make a switch during the season.
March 25th, 2020 at 4:59 pm
Yeah DR that’s why it’s always better if you can restructe a guy that you plan to stay with long-term. That’s why I don’t think it hurts at all to do it with guys like Marpet or Jensen…..provided they plan on them guys being here long-term.
And I also don’t think it hurts to push Caps hits off to free up space now. If you can find replacements for guys like Suh who won’t likely be around long-term. Then you replace them cheaper while the CAP elsewhere don’t hurt.
Them other team who took dead hits planned on winning Championships immediately. For New England it worked. For the Saints it didn’t. But I would for sure exchange having a CAP problem to make a title run…..mEven if it ends up short like the Saints. Just give me that chance.
I did also think we could look to push a dead CAP hit on Brady if he asked for 30M plus a year. You take a dead hit the same year he retires and if you groom a cheaper rookie QB to take over your spending at QB(dead CAP + rookie contract) works out just fine. Luckily for us Tom was willing to take a team friendly deal.
March 25th, 2020 at 5:03 pm
SOEBuc … You hit all the hot buttons, but my guess is that there are really two different scenarios. IF we go into the draft needing a starting RT, and there are no decent ones available in FA at that point, we don’t have much choice but to draft one of the Top-4 OLinemen in Rnd 1 then draft a RB in Rnd 2 (preferably) or Rnd 3.
But IF one of the Top-4 OLinemen isn’t there but Kinlaw or Brown (or a QB who BA likes) is there, you grab them … THEN draft the next best OLineman in Rnd 2 (or move back up into Rnd 1 if necessary). In that case we couldn’t get a RB until Rnd 3 at the earliest, and heaven only knows who’d be left by that point. Would still like to see us grab AJ Dillon in there someplace in any event (I think he’ll go in Rnd 3, but he might last until Rnd 4 (we do have 2 picks there). I’m still in favor of drafting TWO RBs IF Dillon’s one of them (soft spot for blue-collar RB/FB types who run like Mack trucks I guess).
In any event, this is gonna be a tricky draft I have a feeling. We NEED RT, RB, DLine, WR#3, for starters, but could also use another LB, RB & OLineman for depth. It’ll be interesting.
March 25th, 2020 at 5:03 pm
@Defense Rules Says:
@JimmyJack Says:
Happy as you guys are. Getting those three defensive stars back is big. I was ok with the Buc’s deciding whether they wanted Winston back or who was behind door 2. Who would have known it would be Brady?
Still think that we cannot fully rely on the draft to get our RT or RB for sure so would not mind at least 1 calculated depth pick there.
Regarding the cap for the Buc’s, I got to think that Beckwith is a goner this season because even though there is some cap hit, it is much less than his million plus salary.
Regarding the cap, Pittsburgh is in salary cap hell. They did a 2nd round tender on Matt Feiler – their right tackle. He has been a top 5 right tackle the last two years. I would love a 20 million three year contract for him. Don’t think Pittsburgh could match it. We would give up our 2nd round pick but we would have a starting right tackle.
Regarding Over the Cap and Spotrac, I never understand how New Orleans is always over the salary cap but still signs guys.
March 25th, 2020 at 5:04 pm
That’s a good signing if confirmed. We can draft some talent to back him up, get him fired up for next season, and with Brady taking pressure off of them, it will be AWESOME.
March 25th, 2020 at 5:04 pm
Sweeeet!
March 25th, 2020 at 5:04 pm
Great!Ā This is the one I’ve been hung up on.
One good thing is BA knows what he has with Suh (and JPP and Shaq).Ā He had a year to watch and evaluate them.
I would not be adverse see us take DTĀ Javon Kinlaw with our first pickĀ to throw into the mix and be a possible future replacement for Suh. I also would not mind if we grabbed OLB K’Lavon Chaisson to also throw into the mix and serve as possibleĀ eventual replacement for JPP.
Time will tell but we certainly will have the option of trading up if our brain trust targets one specificĀ OT out of the top four to become another mainstay.
March 25th, 2020 at 5:11 pm
SOEBuc … BTW, back in 2012 I REALLY wanted the Bucs to draft another guy from Boston College by the name of Luke Kuechly. Instead Dom went with Mark Barron. Bummer. Dillon’s the only other BC guy I’ve REALLY wanted to see on the Bucs roster. Just a gut feel, nothing more, that he’d do very well for us, just not as the lead dog.
March 25th, 2020 at 5:20 pm
geno711 … I love your idea of offering $20 mil for 3-years to Matt Feiler. He didn’t do much his first couple of years, but came on strong in 2018 filling in for the injured Marcus Gilbert & then held the starting job in 2019 when Gilbert was traded. Gotta love a guy who goes 6’6″ & 330 lbs. He’s also got decent experience at Guard, and versatility can be a valuable thing.
And it always looks to me like New Orleans cuts it closer than most, but always meets the salary Cap limit come the start of the season. We’re not all that much different these past couple of years.
March 25th, 2020 at 5:59 pm
Good to have him back – helps the run defense if nothing else.
March 25th, 2020 at 6:10 pm
YES!!!!!
March 25th, 2020 at 6:17 pm
SUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Now we need an OL, RB and QB in the first 3 rounds please.
March 25th, 2020 at 6:47 pm
Good to have him back, him and Vea make it hard to run on us.
March 25th, 2020 at 7:20 pm
NPUPPY SAYS “to not say the shotty kicking, porus defense and non-existent running game played a major role in our record last as did the TOs. They all were the reasons for 7-9 and anyone that denies that is just plain CLUELESS.”
I couldn’t agree more! it wasn’t just the qb that lead to the 7-9 record. it was a collection of things. but i feel with the less turnovers, the defense would look a whole hell of a lot better! if jw only threw 15 ints, he’d be signed to an extension!
the bucs HAVE to get better on their pass defense, run game, AND kicking if they expect to make it far in the playoffs. i think everyone can agree on that.
March 25th, 2020 at 7:22 pm
I think yāall are sleeping on Ronald Jones I believe that he will get RB1 carries this year I wouldnāt be mad if the my brought a guy like Freeman in as a vey
March 25th, 2020 at 7:24 pm
The 49ers really wanted him. Glad he is coming back here. He and Vita are like a stone wall.
March 25th, 2020 at 7:26 pm
Excellent! Like above, I wonder what they have in store for the remaining cap space… Williams please.
March 25th, 2020 at 7:41 pm
kong suh is back !
#SoDangBeastly
March 25th, 2020 at 7:43 pm
MarineBuc…I was thinking QB in the fifth to come in and compete with Griffen for the number two spo and could possibly win a starting job against someone when Brady leaves. Pick up a QB in the first or second next year and fly under Tom’s wing the entire season. Would have no problem. Ppl are talking RB and OL (which are needs) but need to focus a dline as well. Fans are gasping about Brady but himself and JPP and Suh are not going to be around much longer down the road. We’ve spent a lot of money this year and we’re going to have to break the bank next year. Suh took a lot of time for them to make a deal and I doubt they would bring him back for another one year deal next year and a good prime vet DT does not come cheap. Shaq himself said losing Nassib was real bad (very true). Gholston had a decent year but he is not the QB pressuring type. I’d love to get Kinlaw in the first.
And if you like Licht or not he is good at making deals for picks. Think there could be some serious swapping.
March 25th, 2020 at 7:49 pm
SUH #93
YEESSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
MY MAN
March 25th, 2020 at 8:06 pm
Hell yeah!
Needed him and JPP back.
March 25th, 2020 at 8:09 pm
This makes losing Nassib a little easier. Hopefully Anthony Nelson and Nunez-Roches continues to get better.
March 25th, 2020 at 8:22 pm
Love it, they need some depth in the trenches on both sides, corner and saftey but I love the starters across the board
March 25th, 2020 at 8:32 pm
Chan
Largely agree with those picks. I’m perhaps a bit different in that I wouldn’t mind spending two picks on RB’s if we could get Dillon and either Cam Akers…Edwards-Helaire or even Perrine who is a sleeper in this draft.
THREE quality backs on rookie contracts…nobody breaks the bank could emulate the 49ers formula for multiple RB’s.
March 25th, 2020 at 8:37 pm
116 posts on a non QB thread. Like D.R. I’m impressed that guys here didn’t get lost in stats/sacks and really appreciate what Suh brings to our team.
In little more than a year BA displayed the cojones to run a first round pick on D and the top pick in the entire draft on O. There are no sacred cows on a BA team and I think players appreciate and respond to that. It’s all about winning.
March 25th, 2020 at 8:46 pm
Suh is a durable, menacing force. So stoked to have this this monster on the team!
March 25th, 2020 at 8:55 pm
Hell yeah.
March 25th, 2020 at 9:34 pm
Welcome back big guy! This is awesome, the 3 big D guys we needed back are gonna be back!
He actually does help the sack dept by eating up coverage with Big V so Shaq and JPP can feed on sacks and QB pressure.
Alright, no more Kinlaw mocks please…dont need him….need that RT, RB, FS!
March 25th, 2020 at 10:32 pm
Loving this off season.
Looking more and more like a RB is possible in R1 of the draft. RT and S in 2-3.
March 25th, 2020 at 11:45 pm
Im all about trading down-get another 2nd or 3rd….grab OT Ezra Cleveland, then RB Clyde Edwards, then WR/TE Chase Claypool….FS Dugger or Davis.
March 25th, 2020 at 11:47 pm
How much is OJ Howard costing us? Maybe Bill would work out a straight trade with him for Edelman!…i know he showed a lot of interest in OJ last year. I’d hate to lose a draft pick from this year’s class.