“There’s No Real Game Plan Against Him”

March 12th, 2020

Last season, the 2-5 Buccaneers headed west to play the 6-2 Seattle Seahawks.

Russell Wilson remembered preparing for what was then a horrid Bucs defense.

Seattle rolled up 492 yards and beat the Bucs in overtime, but at least one Tampa Bay defender made an impression on Wilson before and after the game.

“Shaq Barrett’s a beast all year,” Wilson said. “I remember game-planning, trying to game plan against this guy. And there’s no real game plan against him. This kid makes so may plays, one of the best in the league.

The quote comes from the Bucs’ new The Current video at the team’s official website and YouTube page. A team film crew at the Pro Bowl shared comments about the 19 1/2-sack Shaq from fellow Pro Bowlers.

Wilson is the kind of guy who says nice things, but when a guy like that talks about his film study, you know it’s very serious praise.

In a matter of hours, the Bucs likely will be slapping the franchise tag on Shaq — and continuing to negotiate with him on a long term contract.

Joe sure hopes Shaq doesn’t come down to earth too far next season; 11 sacks would be a let down, but that’s not exactly fair to Shaq.

For those wondering, the NFL had 18 double-digit sack artists last season, and just 13 with 11 or more.

46 Responses to ““There’s No Real Game Plan Against Him””

  1. SteveK Says:

    11 or more would be good for me.

    That’s legit production and he’s a player.

    Much better than the inconsistent QB.

  2. AlabamaBucsFan Says:

    Sign him already!

  3. Robert Says:

    I would bet money they’ve already told him he’ll get his deal, but just hang tight we’ve got a big fish to land……..you’re up next.

  4. bucsfan951 Says:

    ill take 11 sacks while other players get their sacks also… like winston throwing for 4k yards while throwing less than 12 ints

  5. 813bucboi Says:

    11 sacks would be great…..

    i doubt anyone is expecting him to produce 19.5 next year….

    11-16sacks is what he’ll get next year…..

    shaq couldve had 25sacks had JPP started week1…..

    GO BUCS!!!!!

  6. LaMarcus Says:

    JPP gets his plate first and eats before anyone else.

    JPP is our defense. Everyone else including Barrett are role players

  7. tmaxcon Says:

    No one falls for one year wonders like low standard bucfan….

  8. Ndog Says:

    Of course there’s a game plan against him. Just wait for him to jump offsides.

  9. LordCornelius Says:

    I wouldn’t be disappointed whatsoever if we sign him to a big extension and he has just like 8-10 sacks.

    It’s not about the sacks as much as the pressure. And my god he had a ridiculous amount of sacks last year and a ridiculous amount relative to NFL history.

    If you expect like 14+ sacks as a given you are having ridiculous expectations.

    Von Miller – at worst a top 2-5 edge rushing talent of the last like 5-7 years and former defensive MVP, averages like 12 sacks in 16 game seasons from 2014-2019.

    Khalil Mack averages like 10 sacks per year, and is coming off 8.5.

    So no – I will not freak out if he doesn’t hit 12+ sacks next year after we give him a lot of $$. I just want him to be a liability for the offense and ability to project the QB the way guys like Mack & Miller are

  10. Jean Lafitte Says:

    So since he had a miracle season and gets us 19.5 sacks JBF’s expectations for him going forward can be no less than 11 sacks? But, you’d have Michael Bennett for top money and never expect him to get double digit sacks? Only once in his entire career did Bennett even approach 11 sacks with just 10. I never could understand your affinity for a slightly above average pass rusher like Bennett. Grossly over-rated but Shaq has proved to be the real deal.. It seems you’re taking a while to warm up to Shaq while setting the bar unfairly a little to high. Wouldn’t 9 be a little more realistic while getting double digits would be an added plus, keeping everything fair at least?

  11. BigHog Says:

    With a better overall DEFENCE …sky should be his limits …you take the mony and I’m looking for a 17 to 22 sack season!!! Have at Sir Tslk A Lot!!

  12. Chris Cotten Says:

    Not to change the subject my fellow Buc fans, but would you go to Vegas this weekend for 48 hours, I’ve had this trip booked for a few months, I’ve even called my casino host about this

  13. bucsfan951 Says:

    NDOGG: funny bc Winston actually has more penalty yards than Barrett. 56 yards to 54 yards…

  14. Anonymous Says:

    If we keep him n jpp n they both get 10+ each I’m good but I’m think if we keep both at least one will have 15+

  15. Bird Says:


    There you are you dang hypocrite

    You claim to be a buc fan (more then anyone else) and not just a winston fan
    Yet you are dogging shaq barrett, the true underdog story. A guy that was a back up because of denver’s high draft picks for edge rushers

    He gets his chance here
    Has almost 20 sacks (19.5)

    But guess what buc fans , he kept it real when describing jameis and commented the turnovers were a problem just like godwin. Just like lavonte
    Just like most buc players and buc coaches

    So ndog is not a fan of barrett and is throwing shade

    You are such a “skidmark” of a human being
    And just admit …you are a jameis winston fan and root for jameis winston and only buc players that give kudos to your man on man love affair with #3

  16. Tval Says:

    @ chris. Dont do it!!!!
    Ive heard of multiple hotels lying to their visitors about their contamination.
    You may not show symptoms, for 3 weeks after, but will you be visiting any family afterward? If so dont go. Its probably wiser to save a few $$$ until a, wiser more appropriate, protocol is put into place to protect workers and employers. We will see how well social democracy works in the states. Like it or not!! Lol!!!

  17. SteveK Says:


    Be objective dude. Winston is a turnover machine and Shaq is a stud.

  18. SteveK Says:

    Lord Corn,

    Great comps and data, I would be happy with an average of 11 sacks. I bet Shaq wants to be here in part bc of Vea eating up the interior. Hopefully we bring back the horses on the d line. All of them.

  19. SB Says:

    bucsfan951 Says:
    March 12th, 2020 at 5:13 pm
    ill take 11 sacks while other players get their sacks also… like winston throwing for 4k yards while throwing less than 12 ints


    4k yards with less than 12 ints and we would have definitely been in the Playoffs.

  20. Adrnagy Says:

    One year wonder makes you a stud ? Haha ha

    I’ll remember all this comments of how this kid is for next year..
    We should be smart and trade him for a second rounder.

    SteveK Says:
    March 12th, 2020 at 6:54 pm

    Be objective dude. Winston is a turnover machine and Shaq is a stud.

  21. SB Says:

    bucsfan951 Says:
    March 12th, 2020 at 6:20 pm
    NDOGG: funny bc Winston actually has more penalty yards than Barrett. 56 yards to 54 yards…


  22. Adrnagy Says:

    What’s happening with “I’ll take less Money to stay “

    Two face stud … he’s commanding 21M a yr

  23. soggy Says:

    red letter guy telling everybody off.. cowardly lion if you know what I mean..

  24. SB Says:

    Defense Rules Says:
    March 12th, 2020 at 4:32 pm
    Ndog … Interesting perspective about all the things the TEAM did BAD last year. You left out a couple important ones though.

    The TEAM went 7-9 last season.

    The TEAM turned the ball over 41 times last season. And yes, 30 of those giveaways were INTs thrown by our QB. Not by the coaches. Not by the defense. Not by the kicker. BY THE QB. (Hint: some call it ACCOUNTABILITY).

    Turnover differential is a HUGE stat, and many have talked about that ad nauseum (including me, I know). Fact is that the Bucs’ defense forced 28 takeaways last season (ranked #5), while the offense & S/Ts had 41 giveaways (ranked #32 … all by ourselves by far). The NET Turnover Differential of MINUS 13 was BAD. Really BAD. It allowed us to rank #28 on the season … that’s BAD.

    The Bucs offense got credit for 6 TDs scored by the Bucs’ defense on 6 of those takeaways. On the other 22 takeaways the Bucs offense ended up scoring a LOT of points itself … some from short fields, some where they had to drive a good distance to punch it in or get a FG. All those OPPORTUNITIES to score however came thanks to the Bucs’ DEFENSE.

    The Bucs’ offense reciprocated by throwing 7 Pick-6s & giving up 1 Safety. On the other 34 giveaways the Bucs defense ended up having to defend a bunch of short fields, as well as some longer ones, and gave up what some have calculated to be about 70 additional points. Roughly 120 of the 449 points the defense got charged with last season (over 25%) came off of giveaways from the Bucs’ OFFENSE. Bummer.

    Turnovers undeniably impact games, one way or the other. It is possible to overcome giveaways as we’ve all seen, but their negative influence on game outcomes is undeniable, especially when the Turnover Differential gets to be MINUS 2 or more. You MIGHT win, but odds are VERY high that you won’t. That problem HAS TO BE FIXED if the Bucs are to stop beating themselves and become contenders.


    Best post of the week IMO

  25. SteveK Says:


    Look at Shaq’s Career. Made the practice squad behind Demarcus Ware and Von Miller, then the roster and player behind Miller and Bradley Chubb. Once he had his opportunity (snaps) he produced.

    Look at how Shaq and Jameis FINISHED the season. Arians puts a lot on how the season ends and what to expect moving forward. Winston shat the bed, twice, at home and Shaq balled out to get 3 sacks in the last game and best Chandler Jones for most sacks in the league.

    Sorry that Jameis is not on shaqs level.

    Did you reply to me on the other post about turnovers? You called me “dumb” but got shown what’s up. Can’t wait to educate you further once FA starts.

  26. SB Says:

    Adrnagy Says:
    March 12th, 2020 at 5:06 pm
    Turnovers don’t matter …. why don’t you listen. The team has to outplay the other. Play smart. Don’t be penalized. Have a solid depth. And most important make plays ! Ball out.


    And when someone makes a post like this one you know to treat them like other Trolls and just don’t read their stuff anymore

  27. SteveK Says:

    Good breakdown SB!

  28. JimmyJack Says:

    This thread makes it official. Bucs fans can’t even talk football anymore. One way or another every discussions finds it’s way to Jamie’s Winston.

    I was and am kind nda enjoying the drama. But I’ll be glad when the decision gets made. And then after 3-4 months of arguing about it maybe we can actually talk about the rest of the team like we used to.

  29. Bob in Valrico Says:

    Off subject,but for TandyMan guess who will be joining Bucs staff next year.Thats right Keith Tandy is replacing a coach who moved on. this a good thing , he should share his preparation and film study with our young Bucs .

  30. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    You know why do people delude themselves into thinking Winston is Peyton Manning? And better then 27 NFL QBs

  31. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I join the chorus about getting this Winston decision behind us…..I can go either way with it without a great deal of passion……tag him or find someone else…..I am very passionate about the rest of the team,,,,keeping our defense together and taking care of Godwin….

  32. Buczilla Says:

    11 sacks is fine as long as someone else hits double digits as well. Our defense was much improved at the end of the year and I hope that it stays that way.

  33. D1 Says:


    Making plays ! Making plays! What better play to make for a defense than getting a turnover! Kinda defines the making plays expression.

    For an offense, you have a point to a degree. If the o turns the ball over , then it’s to the defense to get the ball back. If scored upon, then it’s the offense that needs to produce and keep pace.

    To even hint that turnovers are nothing…is so egregious of a thought that it ought to put you in moderation until the bucs win another Superbowl or the dawn of the new Millennium. Whichever comes in 2nd.

  34. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Jameis is easily better than 27 QBs

    Better than……Brisset, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Dwayne Haskins, Andy Dalton, Philip Rivers, Trubisky, Joe Flacco, Gardner Minshew, Baker Mayfield, Daniel Jones, Kyle Allen and Ryan Fitzpatrick.

    That makes him #19 in my book with a HIGH ceiling in year 2 w BA.

  35. BucEmUp Says:

    sign jpp

  36. SB Says:

    I see what you did there Tbbucs3

  37. Robert James Says:

    dANG , LOOK @NDOG. Of course he has no tolerance for a few little mistakes

  38. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    NHL, NBA, XFL, MLB…panic everywhere!

    Some people are refusing to shake hands because of this Coronavirus thing…I’m refusing to shake hands because a lot of people are out of toilet paper.

  39. admin Says:

    I never could understand your affinity for a slightly above average pass rusher like Bennett.

    Don’t watch many Bucs games, eh?

  40. Adrnagy Says:


    Go and search the last 5 Super Bowl games the qb stats. Specially the ones that won. Or better watch the games.
    Then look at the playoff stats for those qb

    Then come back and talk turnovers. Or winning qb play not qb.

    I can’t believe how many Generation Z ppl are in here and allow to post comments.

  41. Adrnagy Says:

    Steve k.

    Shaq career= backup

  42. Jean Lafitte Says:

    I never could understand your affinity for a slightly above average pass rusher like Bennett.
    Don’t watch many Bucs games, eh?

    Why? He never had more than 8 sacks a season with the Bucs. That’s not real special.

  43. Bucsfanman Says:

    Shaq had a phenomenal year for a 1st time starter. While I’m sure that might be the exception, there’s nothing I saw in his game that makes me think that he will not produce.
    I’m excited to see him wreak havoc on offenses again. You have to admit, it was fun to watch!

  44. D1 Says:


    Just watch the superbowl. ………ummm…great point. Most teams that play in the superbowl don’t want to use the QB that got them to the game. Never could figure out the superbowl QB reserved roster spot .

    Generation duh!

  45. BucsFIRE Says:

    B.i.r.d. Says:
    “I am such a “skidmark” of a human being”

    We agree.

  46. SB Says:

    Adrnagy Says:
    March 13th, 2020 at 12:36 am
    Steve k.

    Shaq career= backup

    Adrnagy = Idiot.