Robert Kraft Reaches Out To Bucs Fans

March 22nd, 2020

Jeff Vinik isn’t the only billionaire writing fat checks to the Tampa Bay Times’ sinking newspaper operation.

It seems Robert Kraft really wants Tom Brady to have a happy ending in Tampa with the Buccaneers, presumably not at a strip mall.

Kraft purchased a full-page ad in today’s Tampa Bay Times wishing Brady well.

Joe read the message and it’s somewhat stunning to think about how much Kraft wanted to keep Brady but deferred to his head coach/general manager.

Joe wonders what Bucs history would look like if Raheem Morris was allowed to keep Derrick Brooks and/or veterans he wanted to retain in 2011, or if Greg Schiano had been allowed to launch Josh Freeman before it actually happened.

98 Responses to “Robert Kraft Reaches Out To Bucs Fans”

  1. Duthsty Rhothdes Says:


  2. ModHairKen Says:

    I had no idea Morris wanted to keep Brooks and was overruled. That paints everything about him in a different light.

  3. Robert Says:

    Hmmmmmm. Quite the letter of recommendation.

    So stoked to be a bucs fan

  4. Hethrew 30 Says:

    Joe, you set this up so well. Here it is:

    If anyone could know about happy endings in Florida, it could be Robert Kraft.

  5. Hethrew 30 Says:

    That is probably the most relevant ad the TBT has had in years.

    Sorry to see them have to cut so many jobs this week. Not due to COVID-19, but has been coming for a long time due to their poor reporting and refusal to leave identify politics out of so much of what they write. They are down to charging basically nothing for electronic access, but a mint for hard copy ($1 for this rag is not worth it).

    So this ad does class the page up a bit. Better and more robust coverage, of sports as well as news, would be a regional paper. Orlando Sentinel and TBT should merge. That would be good for sports teams too.

  6. TheBucsAnthem Says:


  7. james west Says:

    Wow, Mr Kraft i thought that was a class act, and show of love, no doubt, i feel when the patriots, fall down off the cloud they have been riding, for the last 20 years, these people up in new england are going to be hating life, probably already are, they are not going to except average to mediocre play from their team, damn i kinda feel sorry for them, but their loss is our gain, maybe bill outsmarted his self this time

  8. Jmarkbuc Says:

    Classy indeed.

    James west ,,I wouldn’t count out Belichick just yet. He is an excellent coach.

  9. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Pretty awesome just got my copy.

  10. BucFanDay1er Says:

    Brady = surgeon. JW = intern. Looking forward to some new hardware in the tropy case. I liked JW but just could not get past the inconsistent play (turnovers suck). Wish him luck. Some “wicked good” (get used to the lingo Buc fans) memories from JW but am pumped for the new season. Go Bucs!

  11. DaBux Says:

    Nice. And the Madden preview of Brady as a Buc from Wow.

  12. BigHog Says:

    Or where we would be if we had never hired Coach Toes On The Line!

  13. Hawk Says:

    I feel sorry for the Pats next starting QB. It is *highly* unlikely that he will fill the shoes left by Brady, and the fans will not be quiet about it.

  14. Destinjohnny Says:

    Wonder if the glazers will do this when jameis signs as a back Up for Jacksonville ?

  15. Bucs Fan Since ‘76 Says:

    Kraft is a genuine five star CEO. He created a corporate structure with a very clear chain of command. He was right to defer to Belichick. Whether Belichick made the correct decision won’t be known for awhile, but I’m sure glad he made it.

  16. Fred W Mcneil Says:

    Tbt and osentinal merging???
    That would be a critical mass of stupidity

  17. DoooshLaRue Says:

    Happy ending…… good one Joe.
    You finally “nailed” one!

  18. Pick6King Says:

    Still waiting for the Jamoist article from the Glazers. Oh, that’s right, never mind. No one wants the turnover machine as their QB. And no need to thank him for five years of futility.

    Go kick rocks Jamoist. Your a terrible QB, and a worse person.

    I’ll look for you on live P.D. robbing a liquor store.

    #TomTerrific # JamoistSucks

  19. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Truly the right gesture…..

  20. Joseph Mamma Says:

    Kraft got Tommy Boy the full page ad and a 2 year membership to the finest massage parlor in Hollywood.

  21. Mike28277 Says:

    Hethrew 30: Wow….

  22. TouchDownTampaBay Says:

    Hethrew, Joe set it up but he also included his own punch. SMH!

  23. NPRSageBoy. Says:

    Where’s JayMiss’ full page farewell from the Glazer Boys?

    Oh, I guess you have to WIN regularly to deserve that.

    Peace, out

  24. Buc believer Says:

    Classy move

  25. Jmarkbuc Says:

    Bucs ‘76

    I think it worked out just the way Bill planned it. He makes a lot of personnel decisions, this is just another.

    “We’re on to Stidham “ or whoever. That’s what a great franchise does.

  26. firethecannons Says:

    He is worried our O-Line will take too many plays off.

  27. ManzielMadness Says:

    Cameron Brate restructures contract… wonder if we’re making a play…

  28. Bucsfan951 Says:

    Rumor is he wrote that up while visiting the orchids of Tampa establishment…

  29. nano107 Says:

    Joe Brate just restructured his contract

  30. RODNEY ALLEN Says:

    That was a very classy thing to do. Mad props to Mr. Kraft

  31. Joe in Michigan Says:

    Good news that Brate restructured. Now let’s talk to some of the O-Linemen about doing the same.

  32. DoooshLaRue Says:

    Yes Big Hog…… just imagine ……

    There would have been no Mr. 5k-30-30.
    Your life would have been so much emptier.

  33. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    NPRSageBoy. Says
    “Where’s JayMiss’ full page farewell from the Glazer Boys? Oh, I guess you have to WIN regularly to deserve that.”

    Are you trying to be funny? Because you are not. I really don’t see why people like you can’t just move on instead of being spiteful. Newsflash: Jameis is no longer our QB.

    Why does it matter so much now?

  34. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Mike Forio reporting that ‘Tom Brady didn’t ask for control over offense or roster authority’, proving once againd that a certain reporter in Tampa makes things up.
    It was Diana Russini of ESPN who reported it. And Joe has no doubt that Brady having input was a part of the dialogue between the teams. You can cut up the semantics how you wish. –Joe

  35. DoooshLaRue Says:


    Keep up the great work.

  36. Jonathan Limpchimpi Says:

    Joe…did you purposely use Kraft and happy ending in the same sentence? I digress…:)

  37. Pewter power Says:

    The nuthuggers need to get together and do this for Winston so they can stop throwing shade at 2020 bucs talking how we wont be successful because winston is not the starting quarterback get it out of your system already, real fans are tired of the biotching and moaning all offseason

  38. nano107 Says:

    Agree with Buccaneer Bonzai was reporters here make up stuff
    Winston asked for too much $$$ that’s why he is gone
    Someone will get him at discount

  39. LVMYBUCS Says:

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhh finally a reason to cheer again.

  40. Mike Johnson Says:

    Now if only Mr Kraft can stay away from those..high end Hand up Chinese massage parlors…?

  41. JimmyJack Says:

    I get the feeling that New England would have gladly taken Brady back. But he wanted to move on. I think he saw the window shutting in New England. Especially on offense where they have had issues finding Championship caliber weapons around.

    I’m quite certain Brady wanted to go somewhere that had a legit title shot and why he didn’t choose LA. Pretty carzy to think in the last year we had Bruce and Tom both choose Tampa Bay as the team they saw with Championship potential.

    GO BUCS!!!

  42. Dave Says:

    Brady will be 44 by the time his Bucs career gets started after the likelhood that this season will be cancelled

  43. JimmyJack Says:

    Bonzai I’m all for pouring on local media’s when warranted. And that Florio comment does not dispell anything I have read…………So what are you talking about? Serious question as you may have read something I didn’t.

    You do realize the first reports about the roster control thing came from ESPN don’t you? So if that info was passed along by local medias that’s not making stuff up buddy.

    I did read hear JP Peterson say Brady would have input…….which is a far cry from “control” or “roster authority” so Florio isn’t misspelling what Peterson reported…….So could you please explain which local media is making stuff up? I’d apperiacte knowing this stuff.

  44. View from 132 Says:

    It’ll be a long terrible summer of overmatched hospitals and gross political maneuvering. Glad ol’ 12 will be on the other side of it… something to look forward to seeing once the world heals.j

  45. Ndog Says:

    I think it’s funny that so many people are excited NOW. Where has all this excitement been the last 13 years? It just shows how many CLUELESS fair weather fans we have in this town. You don’t think any of the previous teams could have used your support and positive energy? No we will only for cheer for someone who has done absolutely nothing for us.

    I actually feel bad for you people that are just now getting on board cause nothing NOTHING is like watching a team that stays together from the beginning grow and grow and develop THEN win it all. Don’t get me wrong if we win it all in the next two years it will be awesome but it will never feel like that first Superbowl cause those were our guys and always will be. Now that THAT was special, and you bandwagoners will never know what that feels like.

  46. Cobraboy Says:

    JimmyJack Says:

    I get the feeling that New England would have gladly taken Brady back. But he wanted to move on. I think he saw the window shutting in New England. Especially on offense where they have had issues finding Championship caliber weapons around.

    Recall two years ago when there was much behind-the-scenes angst, drama and power struggle involving Brady, Belichick, Kraft and Brady’s TB12 buddy, Guerrero over training techniques and Guerrero access to the players.

    Winning kept the drama buried. Maybe Losing as the Pats did in that final game had the same impact on the Pats as Winston’s last game with the Bucs.

    It is clear the relationship was broken in NE. The question is does Brady bring Guerrero to TB? And how does the team think about that?

  47. '79 Defense Says:

    Joe, you might want to check out an article from the Boston Globe the other day blaming Kraft for letting Brady get away and how he was quickly doing damage control.

    Title of article is “Tom Brady is Gone and Robert Kraft Should Own That.”

  48. BigHog Says:

    Some of you people are straight up racist …if you weren’t, you’d watch the words you put to pr

  49. BigHog Says:


  50. Buc1987 Says:

    Some fans STILL have Winston Derangement Syndrome real bad.

    I feel bad for those that are inflicted.

    They can’t help themselves no matter what the article is about….

    Get help!

  51. JimmyJack Says:

    NDog……What you said does need to be said. Ray Jay will fill this year with a lot of pretender diehards……These fans were not there for us when we needed them is our darkest hours……..Not all but many of them are in fact, like you said, Fairweather bandwagoners.

    But I will like to remind you that during this past lost decade of Bucs football we had many fans turn their backs on us. This caused a ripple effect of father’s not bringing sons……uncle’s not bringing nephews……friends not bringing friends ect. A entire generation of potential Buc fans has never been introduced to the team……..If it takes a Tom Brady to change all that it could be a great thing for the future generations of our fanbase…………While it starts with a influx of fair weathers, frontrunners and bandwagoners it ends with thier kin and those they choose to pass down Bucs football too.

    As a die-hard you must bear with this annoying period of time crammed up next to flag wavers & “#1Bucs fans”……..Stay the course and in the next decade you may find yourself surrounded by new true diehards that will never turn their backs on our team like their fathers before them.

    But your post is a fair one. Just remember that all of the local commenters here have been part of the solution

  52. Dave Says:

    I am just glad we got a white QB

  53. JimmyJack Says:

    Big Hog go to a politics chat room. This is sports. No place for racists like you. You’re a maroon.

  54. Joe in Michigan Says:

    Ndog Says:
    I think it’s funny that so many people are excited NOW. Where has all this excitement been the last 13 years? It just shows how many CLUELESS fair weather fans we have in this town. You don’t think any of the previous teams could have used your support and positive energy? No we will only for cheer for someone who has done absolutely nothing for us.

    You weren’t excited about the way our defense played at the end of last year because Gerald McCoy wasn’t on the team? Players come and go. I appreciate your passion, and I’m a Jameis fan too, but I know when it’s time to move on.

  55. Ndog Says:

    JimmyJack you are forgetting one thing, when have no coach and no QB in two years they are all going to be gone again. This is a cash cow/win now move, this organization doesn’t give a crap about the future they proved that last week and that also clearly means they don’t give a crap about us cause we were the ones that suffered through the building stage and we will surely suffer again in two years, probably for a long time again. Let’s just hope Brady can make it work in the meantime and that only happens by winning Superbowls, cause once he’s gone it back to an empty stadium and last place for us

  56. stpetebucsfan Says:

    I love this place but sometimes people lose their objectivity and instead revert to personal prejudice.
    First, you do realize the newspaper business has been in the Internet media business for 20+ years, so you’ve lost your mind if you think they couldn’t compete because of it. A major factor in the death of newspapers came about out of sheer arrogance and greed, and that comes from the staff, a top-down mentality. ‘Let’s give away our product free online but people will still buy the hard copy. And let’s give it away online while still charging our advertisers based on circulation even though logic says eyeballs on the paper (the ads) are lost because of the online audience.’ Only an industry dripping with arrogance and one that felt invincible operates like that. The powers that be in the local newspaper business have known for years that JoeBucsFan owns the Internet traffic market for the Bucs. They could have bought Joe out; they could have joined forces to help their business. They could have outmuscled Joe with more resources when they saw what was happening 10 years ago. But their arrogance became a flesh-eating bacteria. Joe is saddened that an important business like newspapers hasn’t swallowed its pride, folded all print editions and embraced the future. It should have happened years ago. And don’t get Joe started on the hypocrisy of save-the-planet opinions run by editorial boards when ink and newspaper are hardly environmentally friendly. (See freakout on tree tariffs a few years ago.) Newspapers deserve a good share of the blame for their troubles, just like Rays owner Stu Sternberg can’t blame everything on the local business market not buying corporate tickets. Businesses that look in the mirror usually fare best. –Joe

    Regardless of what Joe or Hethren wish to believe..the Tampa Bay Times is not suffering because of their reporting or “political bias”. Those of you who believe the Times is suffering because of bias actually reveal your own right wing predilections to call anything you disagree with as “fake news”. Always shoot the messenger instead of simply addressing the message itself.

    At the age of 28 I was a morning air personality on the #1 rock station in Greenville SC. It was 1440 AM!!! We had the very best air staff in town and top ratings. This was the late 70’s. FM was beginning to engulf AM which eventually was forced into news/sports/religion talk no music because of fidelity and bandwidth issues. A station whose butt we routinely kicked in the ratings moved to FM and we fought the good fight against the INEVITABLE changes wrought by TECHNOLOGY but within two years we were toast. It had NOTHING to do with the talent or efforts of me and my buds

    Fast forward to the 80s where I started a career as a TV sportscaster on an NBC affiliate. Local guys like Dick Crippin were the top dogs along with the newspaper guys like IRA. Then came the launch of BSPN and local sportscasters were totally minimized.

    Luckily I did not then move to newspaper sports reporting just in time to watch that die…twice was more than enough!!!

    Now we have the internet and Joe is king…for now…podcasts and technologies we haven’t even thought about yet may change all that. And when they do…it will have nothing to do with Joe’s coverage or writing.

    Time moves on…I’m driving a car now not riding in a horse and buggy although Munchkin would insist I started of in one. LOL. The reason for this is because buggy makers did such a horrible job?

    The Times and EVERY FREAKING PRINT PUBLICATION in this land are dying from TECHNOLOGY not because of editorial decisions or poor effort.

    Am I suggesting that people in power (currently JBF) always use that power in a nice manner…hell no…I’m sure I was a major Jackwagon in Bristol when i had the power…but that had nothing to do with sports fans moving to BSPN.

    Ironically now BSPN has to fend off myriad new technologies.

    Mostly I post opinion here…this post is absolute FACT!!!

    The demise of the Times or the Tribune had NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR STAFF. If you wish to make it personal that is a reflection on YOU not reality.

  57. Ndog Says:

    You missed the point there Joe in Michigan Im always excited there guy that’s the point. It shouldn’t take getting Tom Brady for people to be excited about their football team, im not sure I could have been more clear. Plus where in my post did I mention Jameis and last time I checked he didn’t play here for 13 years. Dude if your going to respond to my post and even copy/paste it you might want to read it first.

  58. Dave Says:

    Bucs get a white QB= Winning

  59. Jmarkbuc Says:

    Damn Ndog

    We’re they out of Midol at the store?

  60. JimmyJack Says:

    NDog that is your own opinion. Anybody can just say anything. Don’t make it true. For proof just read the comments made by our resident trolls.

    The way I see it the franchise right now has an established long term plan. Their next coach is on staff. And we have a great staff in place with a track record of developing rookie QB……Not to mention a great environment for a rookie QB to mention…….And also Bruce has a high priority to develope a young QB since he has a vested interest in the success of the next HC.

    As far as fans turning their backs again. That is true. Each fairwheter fan will at some point. But like I said for each fairwheter fan that comes they have a son maybe that they will bring(potential die-hard of the future)…..or a nephew or friend ect……..This new Era of But C’s football will bring many new fans…..And it will be all types(bandwagon, fringe, partyers, frontrunners……and yes, even diehards). You’d be foolish to think otherwise.

  61. JimmyJack Says:

    Oh and I guess I’m obligated to apologize for bring a raging sexist in our non-gender identified culture.

    Our Fairweather fans will also bring their daughters.

  62. stpetebucsfan Says:


    Bro….you really need to give the racism card a rest with “Blameless”.

    You are becoming the kid who cried Wolf when there was no wolf…the wolf shows up he cries wolf and nobody believes him.

    In short Big Hog you are hurting the cause of black folks everywhere! I’m with you all the way if you want to say black folks have been cheated out of their vote and this late R canard on ignoring the will of the public as expressly stated in the referendum and continue to attempt to disenfranchise felon who have completed their debt to society.

    Big Hog if you come to say that black people are discriminated against in so many of our elections by changing dates of elections so “Souls to the Polls” a black movement is handicapped.

    Bottom line Big Hog…there is so much REAL racism in our society that your claiming it where it’s not existing dilutes your ability to be heard where it does exists.

    I always considered Warren Sapp a total jerk. He was the GOAT however and so we all rooted for him!

    Derrick Brooks and Warrick Dunn were two of the classiest HUMAN BEINGS I’ve ever cheered. All three were black…I rooted for all three as athletes..I ADMIRED two of them for their witness….their actions. Black or white doesn’t even come into it.

    Nobody dislike “Blameless” because of the color of his skin. Oh I’ll stand corrected there are still a few IDIOT white folk just like there are some IDIOT black folks who still harbor racism. In my experience most of what is left is still festering sadly in my generation.

    So Big Hog…bro I hear ya…racism is completely evil…but that is not what has driven the anti JW sentiment.

    Brady brings far more to this franchise than any other player could. He’s still good on the field but two decades…six rings later…he’s the man.

    Having said that…if you asked all the white posters here…forget the fame the glory etc…simply go for the best athlete for next year…who do you want at QB
    I suspect the top answer would be Patrick Mahomes. Now we have a dilemma Big Hog….is he white or is he black?

  63. Mike Johnson Says:

    Buc fans..well quite a few of them have been racist for a long long time. Is it the stain of Culverhouse or..the confederacy?

  64. ManzielMadness Says:

    Hard to be excited when you’ve been cellar dwellers since ‘07…

  65. ManzielMadness Says:

    On another note, Pierre Desir has been released… lots of unhappy Colts fans… said he was their best corner, would’ve been due 6.5M this year… wouldn’t mind bringing him in for a look.

  66. Howard Cosell Says:

    Lol such behavior is so foreign to us as Bucs fans. We’re used classless breakups and snide comments lol

  67. Howard Cosell Says:

    A perfect example;
    Like Winstons passive aggresive twitter a few days ago!
    Shows how fundamentally different the glaser crap show is from NE

  68. BigHog Says:

    Dave / Jimmy Jack …I got your new 2020 race card …I went to a political chat room but Colt 45 got that on lock down!!

  69. Buc1987 Says:

    Mike Johnson Says:

    “Buc fans..well quite a few of them have been racist for a long long time.”

    There’s not that many real Bucs fans out there buddy. I dunno who you’d be talking about. The comments in here (the most Buc posters than any other site) hardly EVER reflect racism. I never see it. Dave of course is just effing with ya. BUT of course EVERYTHING is about racism anyways right Mike?

  70. Bucnjim Says:

    Funny in 2020 we need to actually have this discussion. My favorite all time Bucs player is Hardy Nickerson and my second is the class act Rhonda Barber. But because I dislike Winston and the drama that follows him around I’m considered having racist views. Most sports fans couldn’t care less if you were albino as long as you can play. Also my all time least favorite Buc who some considered a hall of fame player was Barrett Ruud.

  71. Bucnjim Says:

    Also too many fans mistake good guys for great players. Great players are more likely to be twatwaffles than good guys!

  72. Marine Buc Says:

    We had a couple of positive developments today…

    1. Cam Brate agreed to restructure his contact.
    2. Bucs re-sign Safety A. Adams. (1yr $1.1 mil)
    3. Gerold McCoy’s contract has him making $5.25 mil this season. Suh shouldn’t expect much more than that. Maybe $6.5 million max…

  73. Bucnjim Says:

    McCoy led the last place run D in the league while Suh helped change this Defenses culture. We were top five in run D and not be coincidence.

  74. Bucsfanman Says:

    Classy move by Kraft and not a coincidence. That franchise is run that way to begin with.
    Some mention the “bandwagon fans”. It’s one of a few annoyances that teams’ hardcore fans have to deal with. Here’s the thing, I went to my first game in 1980, Steelers vs Bucs. In 1981 or 1982 they went to the playoffs and did not return until Dungy’s 2nd year, 1997. In between, tickets were cheap and I bought some in 1991 when I got out of the Marines, season tickets that is. The big draw was “Battle of the Bays” and all the Chicago games. Seats were plentiful, not to mention painful (bleacher seating).
    As I drone on, after 1996, the stadium began to fill, little by little. After 1997, and I was priced out of my season tickets, and there were ‘waiting lists’.
    Currently, in an office of more than 30 people, I am one of 3 (THREE!) true die-hard fans. Everybody else is a Cowboys, Panthers, Dolphins, and yes even Patriots fans. My 21 year-old nephew, who’s never set foot in Pittsburgh, has more Steeler memorabilia than I have Bucs!
    I’m treated as an oddity, a fan of my own local team! Why? Well, consider the few winning seasons this team has had and it’s not a stretch as to why. Know this, when we start winning again, the stadium will fill, and more gear will be donned. Many of us here will laugh at all the bandwagoners and reminisce the days of debating each other’s man-crush, or play calling, or that kicker we picked in the 2nd round. I look forward to that day. Winning!

  75. Marine Buc Says:

    @ bucnjim

    Name one other team who is interested in N. Suh right now. I will wait.

  76. stpetebucsfan Says:


    So your post isn’t exactly illuminating. What you have said is that if the newsPAPER business had moved more rapidly to the internet they wouldn’t have died? You can’t separate the two business. That is the point. They are one. –Joe
    That’s all a business decision based on technology..MY POINT.. not a journalism or editorial decision. If you don’t think editorial decisions are tied to demand for the product, then Joe can’t help you. –Joe

    Back in the day there were some buggy dealers who saw the writing on the wall but didn’t do anything while others embraced that new horseless carriage.
    The end result is the same…no more horse and buggy.

    There is NOTHING they could have done to save the PAPER business. My wife loves reading the paper…I only read the sports page and any minimal local news content I need. I consume all the rest of my news coverage on the internet from a variety of sources including two major American News(paper)internet companies.

    Bottom line…the Times did not die because of journalistic decisions or horrible reporting anymore than Acme buggies died because of poor trim on their carriages.

  77. JimmyJack Says:

    MarineBuc…….There’s generally a lack of rumors about a guy like Suh when he’s expected to resign…….Don’t know what your suggesting but just go look at any ranked list of avialable free agents and Suh will be on there.

    That’s cause he is a good football player so any team that’s needs somebody at his position would be interested. But if he wants to stay with the Bucs somebody’s gonna have to overpay to get him…..hence no rumors.

  78. JimmyJack Says:

    And the few comments following Big Hog illustrate exactually why his is a big ol fat racist. And a maroon to bring it to a sports blog to boot.

    Go back to CNN nerd.

  79. Marine Buc Says:

    @ jimmyjack

    Don’t get me wrong. I would love to re-sign Suh but only if the price is right. This isn’t 2013 Suh it’s 2020 Suh… He may have to wait until after the draft. We shall see.

    Go Bucs!

  80. WestChap Says:

    Ndog, I feel more sad for the bitter holdovers than I do the new arrivals. The bitter holdovers see all this fresh enthusiasm and forget that there was plenty for year 2 of both Josh Freeman and Jameis Winston. The difference is that we don’t know yet how the Brady optimism bubble will end (burst or soaring into immortality) whereas we all know (and most of us can accept objectively) how the Freeman and Winston optimism bubbles ended.

    Those who want to detract from the current excitement at what MAY come with Brady in the name of clinging to memories of or perceived slights to prior teams/players are just wasting time. I hated the days they cut Doug, Lynch and Brooks… and then got back to rooting for the team on the field. Time for you to let it go and get with the program… or at least give it a rest for a few months to see how this new day in the bay ends. Ok?

  81. Alanbucsfan Says:

    49ers are interested in Suh, but are tight on cap space

  82. JimmyJack Says:

    I hear ya Marine and I agree. Just sounded like you was saying that no teams would want Suh.

    Disagree with that but don’t care. Just want him to be a Buc next year. Don’t care what other teams think.

  83. Bucsfan951 Says:

    NPUPPY must’ve forgotten when Freeman was drafted… or when JW was drafted. I’ll even go as far as to say when Jeff Garcia was signed. All had enthusiasm from the fans.

    But now that your messiah is gone, you’re looking at the world through different lenses. You’ve seriously gone off the deep end. It’s actually quite sad, to be honest.

    It must kill you to know that Winston isn’t even signed and perhaps a back up this yr.


  84. Rod Munch Says:

    Why would Kraft give the fake news St Pete Times that kind of money? I mean a full page ad in that garbage paper has got to run $100 or $125 dollars anymore, considering their circulation is down to about 10 old folks homes.

  85. sincethebeginning Says:

    @Bucsfanman, you NAILED it!

    I had the privilege of belonging to a family of Bucs season ticket holders from game one of the organization, and I have as my name implies been there with this team since the beginning.

    I remember my own initial frustration at the bandwagon fans who jumped on board when coach Dungy turned the team around back in the day. But when it was all said and done I was just thrilled that the stadium was full and people were going crazy and I saw Bucs jerseys everywhere and people were talking about the team and we had some local sports pride for the first time since Doug Williams had been allowed to walk out of the building.

    We know this is still a great sports town. The Lightning fan base proves that. Proper management and coaching and winning create that culture, and that brings in the fans who want to root for a winner. And that is fine by me! More noise in the stands for our boys is what it’s all about!!

    So let’s make room for the bandwagon, old timers! At least they’ll be in the stands cheering when they’re supposed to cheer, instead of doing it for the other damn team.

  86. stpetebucsfan Says:


    Posted like a true “intellectual”. You must give life a lot of thought


    It’s guys like you that keep me coming back to this blog and enjoying the interaction. Well thought out without all the emotional hyperbole. Thanks.

  87. Ndog Says:

    No 951 it doesn’t kill me but yes I think it is garbage but it is what it is and nothing either you or I will change it. And by your constant CLUELESS comments about our QB that led our team to the #3 scoring offense in the NFL I can tell you are absolutely a bandwagon jumper. Goodness knows if Brady doesn’t succeed you will be the first to jump ship and rip him, cause that is just the kind of person you seem to be.

  88. Marine Buc Says:

    @ alanbucfan

    Your probably right. I believe the 49ers are going to draft DT Kinlaw with pick #13. Right in front of us.

  89. BigHog Says:

    The Goat should have stayed in New England!!!

  90. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Marine Buc

    If they pick Kinlaw then they will not make a serious effort to get Suh which suits me fine.

    Kinlaw is an excellent player but Suh was the 2nd pick in the entire draft. The only DL this year who possesses that kind of potential is Chase Young and he’ll go in the same position at #2 for the same reason Suh was second…A QB will be taken first.

    I’m not suggesting that Kinlaw will not emerge as a great player just that in 2020 he is NOT an upgrade over Suh…obviously as he gets better and Suh continues to age that will change. But for a two year window I’d rather have Suh.

  91. Johnny Says:

    not in the mood to read gloating about newspaper biz troubles. as i’m sure you know, real people, many of whom i’m sure you know, will suffer tremendously if the paper ceases publication, as so many have. I love my friend Ira and Ive enjoyed your writing, but i now find you disgusting, and nothing will ever change that. If you reply, i won’t see it.

  92. Bucsfan951 Says:

    NPUPPY SAYS: “And by your constant CLUELESS comments about our QB that led our team to the #3 scoring offense in the NFL I can tell you are absolutely a bandwagon jumper.”

    First off, myself and 32 other gm’s seem to think the same way. You do notice how he is not signed, right? I mean, the bears traded for foles before signing JW.

    Second, I didn’t know being critical of our qb makes me a bandwagon jumper… do you know what that term even means?


  93. Pok Says:

    So I really want to see America’s pick sixer go play for belicheat. Imagine the stories there. Was it Brady? Was it Belicheat? Best way to know- swap qbs and see what happens. That would be fun to see. If any system can fix the pick-sixer it’s that one

    I called TB12 as a great fit for TB as soon as they were bounced from the playoffs- this is my other call for the season. Now let’s hope there is a season!

  94. NewBucsFan Says:

    I just wanted to address something that we have been hearing now for the past few days from Bucs fans. We have been called “bandwagon fans” since we decided to change from Patriots fans to Bucs fans. I don’t think a person leaving a 12-4 team to join a 7-9 team constitutes a “bandwagon fan”. Most of the new Buc fans coming from New England are Brady fans who are upset at the Patriots organization for how they treated their 20 year quarterback who helped them get to 9 Super Bowls winning 6 of them! We are glad to be here!!! We were also asked a pretty legit question from someone. They said “Once Brady is gone will you still remain a Bucs fan?” For the record…I have always liked the Bucs team even as a Patriots fan and when I heard that Tom had chosen to go to the Bucs it was a NO BRAINER for me! Go BUCS!!

  95. unbelievable Says:

    Classy move from Kraft.

    LOFL @ Hethrew30

  96. unbelievable Says:

    Uh, if you now root for the Bucs just b/c Brady came down here, that is in fact by definition, being a bandwagon fan.

    And that’s fine if you are.

    But the majority of us around here have been Bucs fans for years if not decades, through all the heartbreak, losing, ineptitude and misery.

    There is a difference.

  97. NewBucsFan Says:

    unbelievable I agree with some of what you said but by description “Bandwagon fans are defined as sports fans who have shown no past loyalty to a team, and who only support them when they are doing well.”

    Well yes it’s true that we now want to follow and root for the Bucs because of Brady, but your team was 7-9 last year and the Patriots were 12-4. That’s not really a bandwagoner by the description. We don’t know how the Bucs will do. Getting Brady could be a flop but we highly doubt it. I’m just happy for Tom and also for the Bucs!!!

  98. 2020 year of the GOAT Says:


    WELL SAID……….