Fixing The Fourth Quarter
March 26th, 2020
Stats never tell a full story. But facts are facts, and this FOX Sports Boston graphic (part of a story on why the Patriots shouldn’t consider Jameis Winston) sure is eye-opening in a league where most games are decided by one score.
March 26th, 2020 at 10:05 am
I wonder what JW’s agent thinks about a media outlet in a major market torpedoing him like this. #PaidFloridaVacation
March 26th, 2020 at 10:08 am
Fixing the fourth quarter lmao
March 26th, 2020 at 10:11 am
@Doctor Stroud
At this point it doesn’t matter. There are no real jobs available to start left, not really. Jameis would be better suited to find a team with a fragile started and sign on as a backup. Truthfully, the Panthers would be perfect, because Bridgewater won’t last long.
March 26th, 2020 at 10:12 am
As to the actual topic…we won’t need top fix the forth quarter, because Brady will have the first 3 quarters under control.
March 26th, 2020 at 10:12 am
u right bonzai
March 26th, 2020 at 10:13 am
Yep can’t win like that. Hopefully he can get that cleaned up if not he doesn’t have a chance in the league
March 26th, 2020 at 10:14 am
13 turnovers, makes me want to vomit….
March 26th, 2020 at 10:14 am
Those numbers are horrible but I have to believe some of those turnovers were hail mary’s at the end of the game. That said, Bonzai is correct that with Brady the first 3 quarters will be under control.
March 26th, 2020 at 10:16 am
Bonzai … I was thinking exactly the same thing, except that the Saints would be a better fit. No one better than Drew Brees to learn from, and Sean Payton is probably one of the few coaches who I think could ‘fix Jameis’. Plus the Saints will need a QB to replace Brees either next year or the year after. They couldn’t pay Jameis much (the Saints are in salary Cap he11), but then again, no one else seems willing to pay Jameis much either.
March 26th, 2020 at 10:19 am
D-Rome … There were a couple of Hail Mary’s in there, but that’s about it. I’m still wondering though how much of that had to do with play-calling and failure to appropriately use our TEs & RBs out of the backfield.
March 26th, 2020 at 10:19 am
This is telling.
And shows how we lost some games this past year.
I wish Jameis well.
March 26th, 2020 at 10:22 am
I had to rub my eyes to make sure I wasn’t seeing things…. I knew it was bad… but I didn’t know it was this bad.. 1 to 13 is quite a different stat. lol
March 26th, 2020 at 10:23 am
Two important things here:
1.- Turnovers: Bucs already fixed that with Brady arrival.
2.- Brady’s succeed with this stats is because he has a good backfield. Bucs have to fix the RB’s problem in order to be successful.
March 26th, 2020 at 10:30 am
Without the int’s during the first 3 quarters we should have a lead that we can run the clock out instead of being in a 4 quarter battle because of ints
March 26th, 2020 at 10:32 am
CARDIAC JOE..but but but LEAD THE LEAGUE IN PASSING YARDS!!!!!!
March 26th, 2020 at 10:34 am
How much cap space is available to sign another FA? Wondering if we can afford one of these FA safeties like Reid or Randall.
March 26th, 2020 at 10:36 am
Just getting to the playoffs and getting bounced out in the first round won’t be good enough. If you have the greatest of all time at the most important position nothing short of the NFC Championship game will be a success. You have to win at least 2 playoff games.
March 26th, 2020 at 10:38 am
I dont want to see statistics and data, Winston was the passing leader last year gosh darn it!!!
March 26th, 2020 at 10:39 am
If we subtracted return yards on interceptions, then Jameis threw for much less then 5k yards.
I wish “net” stats were reported to show the entire picture. The apologists cling to the positive, refusing to acknowledge the negative- even though it’s true and the rest of the league agrees.
March 26th, 2020 at 10:42 am
No – every sound and reasonable Bucs fan knew of this except one of the Joes and the Winston stans!
March 26th, 2020 at 10:44 am
Stevek says: what if we subtracted all his pick sixes from his tds also
March 26th, 2020 at 10:44 am
BRADY is a winner, that other guy, not so much.
TOM BRADY, AMERICAS QUARTERBACK!
March 26th, 2020 at 10:51 am
The Bucs now have a Qb that has been in 9 Super Bowls!
After having a guy who might not even be good enough to be a camp arm for anyone..
That should be the leading story over the next coming months!
March 26th, 2020 at 11:06 am
Bucs need to release the new jersey design so I can buy a Brady jersey.
March 26th, 2020 at 11:11 am
1st QB to win Superbowls for both AFC and NFC teams… Tom Brady! Go Buc’s
March 26th, 2020 at 11:26 am
[Dapostman Says:
March 26th, 2020 at 10:36 am
Just getting to the playoffs and getting bounced out in the first round won’t be good enough. If you have the greatest of all time at the most important position nothing short of the NFC Championship game will be a success. You have to win at least 2 playoff games.]
Double Standard ?
March 26th, 2020 at 11:26 am
I remember all the hype about Cleveland before the season began…. Hopefully we won’t duplicate that
March 26th, 2020 at 11:28 am
Almost double the yards compared to Brady.
Check ya sheets………
He be ballin’!
March 26th, 2020 at 11:40 am
John Herb now that’s what true Buc fans are hoping for!!!
SteveK how’s that any different from you people who ONLY talk about the negative??? They don’t need to because that’s ALL you people talk about. You people only care about 1 stat, turnovers . The other stat winning/ losing no matter how much he had a hand in them is a team stat or how much you pretend it’s not. Last time I checked defense and special teams had hands in losing some of the games this season. The young man played his heart out for us. He loved his team and teammates but you all act like he stole something from you or touched your sister. You people act like he purposely turned the ball over and tried to lose all those games. Plus a number of you wish the worst for him and are glad he isn’t working. You guys have absolutely no perspective. Some choose to be positive because there’s more than enough negativity to go around. Some if you call him a loser but he’s won more in this life than all you all out together.!
March 26th, 2020 at 11:41 am
And this is reason 1A why Jameis is a low end starter/high end backup QB in the league. I would also venture to guess that Jameis’ lead in 4Q yards came from other turnovers earlier so the Bucs were playing catch-up.
As fun as it might be sometimes to watch a team chuck the rock 50+ times per game, it’s not a sustainable recipe for success and you top out in the 7-9 to 9-7 range.
Even during the Rams ‘Greatest Show on Turf’ reign they only threw 34 times per game as a high and in their Super Bowl year threw 31 per game. Jameis averaged just under 40 attempts per game last year and we finished 7-9. Even in Brady’s video game stat years with the Patriots, they didn’t throw that often.
March 26th, 2020 at 11:42 am
Robert
Tom Brady title “America’s quarterback” on the Bucs roster is a slap of blood across Brady’s face.
With his new TB12 and other business venture’s he’s involved with, it is…”Prestige Worldwide Quarterback.” Lol Jameis is probably the janitor that mops up Will Farrell’s and John C. Reily huge bank vaults.
March 26th, 2020 at 11:42 am
Guadalajara Mexico Fan Says:
March 26th, 2020 at 10:23 am
Two important things here:
1.- Turnovers: Bucs already fixed that with Brady arrival.
2.- Brady’s succeed with this stats is because he has a good backfield. Bucs have to fix the RB’s problem in order to be successful.
New England backfield was better than the Buc’s last year. Just not that much better than the Buc’s. They were in the bottom half backfield. Sony Michel proved that he was not that special of a runner and really was not a good ball catching back either. Rojo is greater than Sony Michel – probably – just did not watch enough to be sure of Michel. Problem for the Buc’s last year is that Dare was worse than any other back in the NFL as a 3rd down back. James White was way better than Dare.
March 26th, 2020 at 11:47 am
It’s not eye opening to anyone who knows football!! You kept screaming sign him, sign him and nobody else in the league agrees with you!! Maybe you need to start paying a little more attention… Stop picking favorites for emotional reasons… The people with brains on here kept saying “hey he’s throwing those picks when it matters The most” but na you just kept looking at how many yards he threw for!! Man this is just a bad look for you man! To say that’s eye opening shows that you just don’t know football as much as you think you do!! When people tell you I’d rather have a QB that throws 24tds and 6 picks you say “but the yards” yards don’t matter if you throw the pick 6 in the last 2 minutes…. I’m reeeeally glad you have no power for the bucs! Plus screaming for every over paid free agent just makes you look stupid man!! I’m glad the bucs got some competent people to run things there now instead of hiring people who think like you… But alas, you and pewter report are the only ways I can get bucs news… So here I am… I’m not trying to be an butthole just saying you have something here that probably a lot of bucs staff and players get on here and read… You need to be better!! You need to set a better standard for yourself and stop picking with emotion
March 26th, 2020 at 11:48 am
winston tds and ints by quarter:
1st quarter: 8/10
2nd quarter: 15/6
3rd quarter: 4/3
4th quarter: 6/10
ot: 0/1
throwing attemps 1-10 in all the games: 6 tds/11 ints
ints within their own 1-20 yard line: 8 ints
ints within their own 21-50: 16 ints
tom brady tds/ints by quarter
1st quarter:9/2
2nd quarter: 4/4
3rd quarter: 6/1
4th quarter:5/2
throwing attemps 1-10 in all the games:7tds 4ints
ints within their own 1-20: 1
ints within their own 21-50: 4
yall can read these numbers and make your own conclusion.
March 26th, 2020 at 11:49 am
attempts*
March 26th, 2020 at 11:52 am
America’s quarterback? More like Tampa Bay’s nightmare turnover machine. Funny how teams are just salivating (NOT) to sign the guy. Thanks for five losing years and plenty of yards thrown. Go turn the ball over for some other sucker franchise. You did enough damage in Tampa. Never wanted you and glad Tampa finally admitted their mistake. 30 million per year is your ask? Right. Go Bucs!
March 26th, 2020 at 11:57 am
So…..there you have it……JW leads in yardage and in TDs…….but, which QBs stats would you rather have?
March 26th, 2020 at 12:13 pm
I was rewatching game highlights on YouTube (self distancing) and watched the Houston game, Winston threw 2 pick sixes his first 2 drives one was called back for a penalty. Idk why, but I was shocked, even though I watched the game live, the same thing when I was rewatching the Colts game. I was at that game.
March 26th, 2020 at 12:24 pm
So two-thirds of JW’s turnovers either came on the first drive or the fourth quarter/overtime. You can’t win games like that, which is why a change was necessary.
March 26th, 2020 at 12:25 pm
facts matter ….. the economic reality is what it is TB12 GONNA BE A UPGRADE….
March 26th, 2020 at 12:32 pm
Not shocked that the sheep are just now talking about the problems they should have been discussing over two years ago!!!!!!!!!!!
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 26th, 2020 at 12:37 pm
whos to blame for this ndog?
GO BUCS!!!!
March 26th, 2020 at 1:02 pm
Oh but Joe… look at all those YARDS!!! Doesn’t that make him so much better?????
March 26th, 2020 at 1:11 pm
DavidBigBucsFan99 Says:
March 26th, 2020 at 11:40 am
John Herb now that’s what true Buc fans are hoping for!!!
SteveK how’s that any different from you people who ONLY talk about the negative??? They don’t need to because that’s ALL you people talk about. You people only care about 1 stat, turnovers . The other stat winning/ losing no matter how much he had a hand in them is a team stat or how much you pretend it’s not. Last time I checked defense and special teams had hands in losing some of the games this season. The young man played his heart out for us. He loved his team and teammates but you all act like he stole something from you or touched your sister. You people act like he purposely turned the ball over and tried to lose all those games. Plus a number of you wish the worst for him and are glad he isn’t working. You guys have absolutely no perspective. Some choose to be positive because there’s more than enough negativity to go around. Some if you call him a loser but he’s won more in this life than all you all out together.!
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We won 9 games one time in five years with Jameis. Bottom line Dave, we don’t win and when we dissect the losing- turnovers come out screaming- more so than kicker and D.
March 26th, 2020 at 1:27 pm
Jarring, absolutely jarring numbers.
March 26th, 2020 at 1:56 pm
Looks like only FSU fan think he is worth anything. NFL has spoken.
March 26th, 2020 at 2:04 pm
Really looking forward to winning close games in the 4th quarter, instead of letting the opponent take it away from us. We have a much better chance now, down one score with 2 minutes left with TB.
March 26th, 2020 at 2:08 pm
Jameis had to have had more issues than interceptions. Arians has come out and said Jameis was third on his list. Now so many news outlets criticizing him. Also unless his agent is asking to much to sign him, nobody has even offered a backup roll
March 26th, 2020 at 2:10 pm
We won the superbowl with Brad Johnson and a great defense. This year we will have the woat (winningest of all time) and a great defense. Let’s do it again!
March 26th, 2020 at 2:11 pm
And people wonder why no other team has any interest in Winston……..
When absolutely no other team in the league wants your starter to be their starter, what’s that tell you?
March 26th, 2020 at 2:14 pm
I wouls actually love to see Jameis play behind brady for a couple of years. But I have a feeling they’re gointo dreither Eason or Love. But Love gives the ball away just like Jameis does.
March 26th, 2020 at 2:19 pm
Time to add a little perspective to those stats.
Last year was considered “Blameless” best by far. Just read his supporters.
It was a down to mediocre year for Brady because of how high he has set the bar.
People have mentioned the timing of JW’s mistakes. When a guy has made as many horrid mistakes at crunch time and to start a game…could it just be he’s a choker?
March 26th, 2020 at 2:38 pm
It sure makes me happy that the Bucs management choose the one on the left.
It will glorious to see Brady with four or five viable outlets on every play.
March 26th, 2020 at 3:34 pm
The only surprise is that there are any apologists for our prior QB left on this site… are you guys related or something? Even Alabama Bruce has moved on to a new love. The last 5 years at QB were bad… at times truly horrible but always bad when measured over any stretch of time more than a half. Prior QB could be good for a play or a drive and sometimes even a half but rarely a whole game. Just bizarre in hindsight given the lack of cause (no drugs, no injury) other than just lack of development. Hope it goes better for him the next time…
March 26th, 2020 at 4:29 pm
At this point, it’s pretty clear that Winston won’t be a starter in the NFL next season. However, if he doesn’t find a backup QB job soon, he needs to Sheet Can his agent ASAP. He’s too good to be out of the league altogether
March 26th, 2020 at 6:13 pm
TB x TB !!! !!! !!!!
March 26th, 2020 at 10:54 pm
Can we now retire the ‘Jamis Watch’ tag and start a new tag – ‘Brady Watch’ or is your man crush on JW to strong for Mr Brady?