No Need For Reckless Quarterback

February 25th, 2020

Critical flaw.

Joe stumbled upon a word that sums up the reason why so many Bucs fans kick the dog’s water bowl across the kitchen floor because they want to run off Mr. Entertainment, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston so badly.

That word would be “reckless.”

Prior to last year, Jameis had more of a problem fumbling the ball. This drove Joe bananas. It was downright irresponsible how Jameis didn’t take care of the ball. Joe is convinced the reason former Bucs coach Dirk Koetter didn’t run Jameis up the center’s caboose for a first down on third-and-short was Koetter did not trust Jameis to hang on to the ball.

Joe was going through interviews at the Super Bowl in Miami Beach and re-listened to Joe’s chat with the preseason TV voice of the Bucs, Chris Myers.

There, Myers, who thinks the Bucs should move on from Jameis, noted the Bucs won a Super Bowl with Brad Johnson, not exactly Dan Marino in his heyday.

“He didn’t have to throw recklessly,” Myers said. “Yes, the running game was balanced and he had a great defense.”

That’s just it. The Bucs have no running game. Now the way the Bucs defense played the final month of the season, it may have played well enough to have a game manager lead the offense (keyword: may). But the Bucs sure as hell didn’t have a run game to win with a game manager.

So if Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians decides to go with a lesser quarterback this fall who is not throwing “recklessly,” he better quit this charade about not investing top resources in a running back and go get a decent one.

Or two.

Can you imagine how horrid the Bucs offense would be if you had a handoff artist at quarterback relying on Peyton Barber to be the bellcow?

70 Responses to “No Need For Reckless Quarterback”

  1. Mr. Reality Says:

    No Joe, wait a second. There is no “may” here. The Bucs were 5-3 the last half of the 2019 season. The D really stepped up. They beat ARI ATL JAX IND DET. They lost to NO, HOU, ATL. Yeah, Duh, but consider this:

    Had the D not stepped up to play at least average to above average, they’d have lost ARI and IND due to Winston turnovers. And had the usual INTs, including deadly pick 6s, that direcly lost both games. Had Winston done his job, the only loss would have been to NO in the second half. Had Winston done his job in Game 1 against SF, in England vs CAR, and at TEN, they’d have been “in it” when the second half started.

    Yes, they need a running game. Yes, it’s a team sport and Winston has made plays. But he does not make enough to overcome the losses his poor play causes. There are many more words other than “reckless” to sum up Winston’s sorry football performance and character. None of them are good.

  2. Mr. Reality Says:

    ^^^ That is, he lost both games directly in HOU and ATL…last two of the season at home.

  3. Mr. Reality Says:

    It is not a new idea…it is something many of us have been saying here. A game manager stands a much better chance of winning games as a bridge QB than a reckliess Winston. Not to mention, with the new uniforms, maybe the Bucs will wipe the sh*@ stain named Winston off the franchise.

  4. Pete I Says:

    Reckless and has a losing record as well as the founding member if the 30-30 club and the king of pick 6’s.

    111 turnovers since 2015. The most by far.
    23 lost fumbles since 2015. The most by far.

    But he had 5000 yards and almost a winning record…almost.

    Hey just 13 straight wins and he will be a .500 starting QB.

    So he has that going for him…maybe?

  5. Bucsfanman Says:

    I can’t wait for this to be settled once and for all.
    If……
    If…….
    If………

  6. TiredBucsFan Says:

    Amen Bucsfanman! End this already

  7. Defense Rules Says:

    Wait a minute, I think I just spotted yet another ‘Excuse for Jameis’. According to Chris Myers, Brad Johnson “didn’t have to throw recklessly” BECAUSE he had a good running game & defense. Ergo, Jameis HAS TO throw recklessly BECAUSE the running game & defense weren’t up to snuff? Let me see, oh ya, not buying it.

    Job One for any QB IMO is to do HIS job. A huge part of that is PROTECTING THE FOOTBALL. Jameis is the WORST in the NFL at that over the past FIVE years. Yes he’s a member of a very small group of NFL QBs who’ve thrown for over 5,000 yards in a season. Kudos. But if you can’t PROTECT THE FOOTBALL in the process, it’s meaningless. And to blame THAT DEFICIENCY on the running game and on the defense is ludicrous.

  8. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Jameis makes mistakes because he has the ability to forget his mistakes and move on…..
    When most of us receive a speeding ticket…..we slow down….at least for the rest of our trip…..when Jameis fumbles or throws and interception, he just carries on as if nothing had occurred.
    There must be a consequence for errant behavior or it will continue.

  9. Jonzey Says:

    Winston is our guy when you have a quarterback that’s throws for over 5,100 yard and 30 touchdowns that’s means we have no running game. Winston had to rush some throws because he was trying to win the game in the beginning of the season due to poor defensive play. The kicker lose 2 to 3 games missing key field goals. The game was won against Falcons but he missed 3 field goals that 9 points. Give Winston a running game, a OT and with his corrected eye sight he will take us to the playoffs.

  10. Mr. Reality Says:

    TBBF…good analogy I think. I just get the impression that Winston has no conscience. He is also not stupid. Which makes him worse. He knows the right things to say, but the behavior never changes. And his enablers who say things like “He’s only X age” or “He’s just trying to get some” or “keep firing” only embolden him, make his errant behavior justifiable in his mind. Seems like he did that with Fisher, Koetter, and now may Arians/Leftwich. If he believes his own BS, that will be even worse. But he won’t change until he stops getting coddled and gets called out and dealt with for bad play, on and off the field.

  11. Bob in Valrico Says:

    Since Gruden mostly used michael pittman as their starting running back its hard to believe the running attack was all that special. It could have been better if Alstott
    wasn’t kept on the bench so much by Gruden. So my conclusion is that Brad Johnson played smart football,Jameis,not so much.

  12. Bob in Valrico Says:

    edit: in super Bowl year

  13. Mr. Reality Says:

    Don’t be stupid Jonsey. And the ATL was lost when Winston threw the pick six. Yes, Gay missed a kick in NYG that he should have made. No one is praising that. And the Bucs won other games as previously stated not because of Winston, but despite him. People like you (but who are in key positions) that accept failure and embrace it are why the Bucs have stunk for years.

  14. Bird Says:

    I dont disagree with part of that

    However ,on the flip side
    He throws picks early before we even try to establish a run …Plus add in his obvious history of slow starts that goes back to FSU days.

    Meaning the bucs are down early …what are you supposed to do then ?
    Throw the ball recklessly to play catch up
    So part is his own doing
    I mean everyone knows the bucs are part to blame with weaker run game
    And the defense in years past also the problem although it goes both ways …when the offense turns the ball over …puts defense right back on field.

    95% of bucs fans know which jameis showed up for the game after the 1st few series. Its obvious. (good jAmeis vs bad jameis going into year 6? )

  15. Bob in Valrico Says:

    ROJO’s 4.2 average is better than Pittman’s 3.5. He just has to apply himself to
    to protection assignments especially in blitz situations.

  16. #1 Pick QB 2 Cent Brain Says:

    Winston has his fewest attempts inWeek 17 they had a 100 yard rusher and he still turned it over twice and lost

    Franchise QBs don’t rely on kickers to beat bad defenses like the ATL d

    Stop with this thinking that a run a game will save Jameis he still is inaccurate can’t see the whole field and makes bad decisions no matter if he throws it 25 or 50 times

  17. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Interesting from a Mock somewhere
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    31. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Jordan Love, QB, Utah State
    With only one top-155 pick, the 49ers are likely to be a willing trade partner for a team looking to get back into the first round. Perhaps the Bucs will bring back Winston or sign a veteran free agent like Philip Rivers. If Love is still on the board here, however, he has the live arm and mobility that may entice Bruce Arians and the Bucs to take on a chance on Love.

  18. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    A lot of those fumbles were not on Jameis, except for me he year he had an idea injured shoulder. I’m not saying he was 100% blameless, but some of those were on bad center play and runningbacks exchanges where the RB messed up.

    And the year he injured his shoulder in game 2 it was his throwing shoulder.

    On top of that, OL play has never been great, and was even worse this year. Or did people forget those miracles plays over the years when Jameis had to scramble for his life because opponents were unblocked?

    There were instances when the fumbles were his fault, but most of the time they were not.

  19. #1 Pick QB 2 Cent Brain Says:

    Bonzai

    O line was awesome his rookie year

    If you consistently have a top 10 offense hard to not give the o line some love for at least pass blocking

    As for the run blocking they are too soft to run block consistently well

  20. ATrain Says:

    BRING BACK JAMIES
    BRING BACK JAMIES BRING BACK JAMIES
    BRING BACK JAMIES

    I NEED A “I told you soooo BEER”

    JOE IS BUYING

  21. Matthew Fifer Says:

    Anyone else find it odd how Jameis only said the whole “ballin” line after his contract was technically up with the team? All the way up until that point for 5 years he’s been all “I just need to get better” every week. Then the moment he is not really on the team anymore, he changes his whole attitude.

    I have a feeling his idiotic egotistical self has thought that he’s been “ballin” since day 1 even after he opened his career with a pick-6. Seriously, the more I think about it, it just seems that he probably doesn’t actually believe he needs to get better as he probably already thinks he is the pinnacle of talent at the position.

  22. tickrdr Says:

    Reckless, yes, that is a good description:

    ——————————————————————————————tickrdr Says:
    January 25th, 2020 at 9:50 pm
    In 2018, Fitzpatrick and Winston threw for MORE YARDS, TDS, AND FEWER INTS, than JW3 did in 2019.
    No one is arguing his production. Yards and TDs are important.
    But consider how counter-productive his turnovers are.
    Look at his career TD and INT percentages.
    2015: TD% 4.1% INT% 2.8%
    2016: TD% 4.9% INT% 3.2%
    2017: TD% 4.3% INT% 2.5%
    2018: TD% 5.0% INT% 3.7%
    2019: TD% 5.3% INT% 4.8%
    If his yards and TD% rise, Then INT% rises as well.
    If you play RECKLESSLY, with little concern for the consequences, your offensive production may rise, but your negative consequences also rise proportionately, at least in Winston’s case.
    As I’ve argued repeatedly, you need BOTH: Production while also taking care of the football. The best QBs demonstrate BOTH of these criteria, which is why I have repeatedly suggested the following criteria for elite QB play:
    1) A TD/INT ratio of at least 2:1, as a MINIMUM
    2) TD% greater than 5.0%
    3) TD% minus INT% greater than 3
    Jameis Winston has NOT ever done this, not even for one year despite 5 tries.
    The QB with the HIGHEST number for TD% minus INT% is usually the MVP!

    tickrdr

    BTW: Look at the season stats for most of the QBs drafted AFTER Winston, and see if ANY of them have met all three of my criteria above. Then see how their teams fared in those seasons.
    The best “bang for the buck (?Bucs)” is a 1st round QB on a rookie contract.

    BTW2:
    For instance, here are Trubisky’s TD and INT percentages.
    Everyone says that Winston is clearly better than him, right.
    2018: TDs 24 (5.5%) INTs 12 (2.8%) 5.5 – 2.8 = 2.7 Record 11 – 3.
    2019: TDs 17 (3.3%) INTs (1.9%) 3.3 – 1.9 = 1.4 Record 8 – 7.

  23. SteveK Says:

    Agree fifer,

    Too many turnovers. Can’t win. Don’t appear to be getting better statistically or mentally with the decision making.

    Cut bait please

  24. tickrdr Says:

    Thank you for moderating my post at 8:28AM!
    Please feel free to correct any spelling or grammatical errors you may find.

    tickrdr

  25. T REX Says:

    THE ONLY REASON WINSTON THREW FOR 5000 YARDS IS BECAUSE WE HAD NO BACK UP TO BENCH HIM. IN TODAY’S NFL QBs DON’T GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO THROW 30 PICKS.

    FAKE STATS!

  26. Formerly Tampa 2 Says:

    Agree, cut bait please!

  27. Iron Wombat Says:

    people act like that defense was good all year just because it stopped puking on it’s own shoes the last month of the season. They still ended up 28th in scoring allowed. one more point and they’d be 29th. The year before they landed at 31st in scoring defense and missed dead last by 3 points.

    The running game is not good.
    Gay is as bad as Roberto Aguayo ever was.

    So by all means run the best QB in franchise history out of town. Replace him with some retread failure like Andy Dalton or some rookie that they had to reach for in the first round. Then what if those guys lose and BA says i’m going back to the lake house in Georgia?
    Then it’s a new coach and new GM probably… the never ending (don’t call it a rebuild) rebuild continues into the 2020’s.

  28. Hodad Says:

    Joe, you got this lack of running game all wrong. The Bucs under BA, and Koetter are a passing offense. BA wants to run the ball just enough to set up the pass. Teams like Seattle, the 49er’s have great rushing attacks because they commit to running the ball, we just don’t. If you gave Jones 25 carries a game, and Barber another 15, we’d average over a 100 yards rushing a game instead of passing for 5000 yards in a season. Plus Winston’s turnovers have caused us to pass more in order to catch up.

  29. Bob in Valrico Says:

    Bonzai,
    Its jameis job to stick the ball in the RB’s breadbasket. I remember the Dallas game several years ago ,Jameis was looking past the running back at the oncoming lineman.Its just like riding a bike, you have to look where you want it
    to go. and in this case Jameis stuck it in his rib instead of the belly.

  30. LazyMoak Says:

    Jordan Love has massive hands !

  31. Bucsfan951 Says:

    I don’t know why people say he threw 33 tds when in reality he threw 40 tds… #pick6scounttoo #pick6livesmatter the 40/30 club sounds waaay better than the 30/30 club.

  32. stpetebucsfan Says:

    The debate over JW’s recklessness and “effectiveness” almost always degenerates between extremes of a game manager versus a reckless gambler.

    There is a LOT of territory in between. We don’t have to be as “reckless” as JW to still be effective. And JW’s offensive numbers while impressive are not nearly worth all the turnovers. Compare JW’s play to a QB I’ve dissed over recent years…Dak Prescott. I liked him in college but playing for the hated ‘Boys and having a top RB and a top OL and Amari Cooper I just took his success for granted.

    Dak Prescott is more athletic than JW but he’s no Lamar Jackson or Mahomes.

    Look at their stats from last year’s record setting performance by JW

    JW…Completed 60.7% 5109 yds 33TD’s 5.3 TD % 30 INTS 4.8 INT %

    DAK 65.1% 4902 yds 30TD’s 5.0% TD% 11 INTS 1.8% INT %

    These numbers vary wildly in only ONE place!!! Soooo

    Draft that big kid from BC at RB…find one more terrific RB prospect..perhaps Taylor if he drops to the 2nd…get a bone crushing RT and hope that you can somehow take the ball out of JW’s hands so much and perhaps shock some judgement into him.

  33. Jonny Says:

    Winston is no doubt reckless. He means well with wanting to make plays, but his overly eager forced passes have lost us games. He doesn’t seem to understand the gravity of his picks though. Being a good QB is all about turning it on when the situation clearly asks him to play like Marino, but playing with controlled aggression until then. Mental control and focus is everything. Winston is too excited and amped up playing the QB position.

  34. Robert Says:

    I been sayin it, and sayin it and sayin it.

    we have the weapons, we needed someone who is NOT reckless AND can identify which weapon to use based on the D BEFORE the snap.

    crabby locks in and doesn’t spread the ball or read defenses at ALL!!!

  35. BrianBucs Says:

    Joe

    If a QB is getting first downs and not turning the ball over, he is definitely not “lesser”

  36. SmoothBayRider Says:

    Lmao @ Bonzai “Most of the fumbles were not Jameis’ fault .”

    In the words of TKras – “You freaking people! “ .

    Drafting in state QBs makes for a delusional fan base . I hope the Bucs never do that again .

    I grew up rooting for the Gators , I bought my first season tickets in 2015 after we drafted Jameis and had them for 3 seasons . In 2018 , although I wasn’t a season ticket holder , I went to 6 home games and a road game . In 2019 I went to one game .

    I gave Jameis every chance I could to win me over . After five years and leading the NFL in turnovers in that span , And the “check yo sheet” comment , I think it’s time to move on .

  37. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    No need for reckless QB = No need for Winston

  38. Jim Says:

    What SmoothBay said…

  39. SteveK Says:

    Well put Smooth Bay!

    Agree. Cut bait. Can’t wait!

  40. Pewter power Says:

    Atlanta Falcons
    Devonta Freeman-656 total yards, yards per attempt 3.6
    Brian Hill-323 total yards, yards per attempt 4.1
    In a win against the 49ers Ryan threw zero interceptions and beat saints with one interception.

    New Orleans Saints
    Alvin Kamara-797 total yards, yards per attempt 4.7
    Latavius Murray-637 total yards, yards per attempt 4.4

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Ronald Jones-724 total yards, yards per attempt 4.2
    Peyton Barber-470 total yards, yards per attempt 3.1

    Running back issue is just another winston excuse. Bottom line is her is reckless with the football. Only difference between bucs and the two teams that finished ahead of us in the division is 30 interceptions, Matt Ryan 14, drew brees 4. No run game is blind joe excuse for turnovers. How many teams have two great running backs maybe 2-3, does anyone know who’s behind McCaffrey? Panthers beat us while we shut him down so it had to be the 6 turnovers

  41. Craig Says:

    Part of it is that Jameis doesn’t seem to visualize the bigger pictures of the game. You could call it focus, but I don’t think that is it.

    It is like when they say a receiver turned his head to look downfield and dropped the pass.

    Jameis dropped the ball a lot because he was trying to hand-off and got ahead of the play. He lost the short pass because he wanted long ones, even though his long balls aren’t all that long, they are more about Godwin’s YAC.

    I have very serious doubts that Jameis will improve next season, the game is too far beyong his ability to rationalize it.

  42. tmaxcon Says:

    Bucsfanman Says:
    February 25th, 2020 at 6:04 am

    I can’t wait for this to be settled once and for all.
    If……
    If…….
    If………

    It’s already settled pal

    If Glazers can make a bad decsion they will fail

    If Glazers trust licht or a washed up BA 100% they will fail

    If Glazers allow Jameis to walk he will be hoisting a lombardi hopefully next year in glazers own goat pasture.

  43. gotbbucs Says:

    Wait a minute, there’s a big difference between being “reckless” with the ball and being “careless”. I can live with some recklessness, throwing into tight windows and forcing into double coverage is reckless. Sometimes the circumstances call for taking chances.
    Carelessness is lobbing comeback routes on the sideline, throwing jump passes behind running backs, and throwing into the middle of the field without having a clue where the coverage is. Those are unacceptable decisions that have nothing to do with recklessness. He’s careless with the ball because he has no appreciation for circumstances.

    Winston knows how to throw a football, Winston doesn’t know how to play quarterback, if that makes any sense. He knows how to make all the throws but he has very little feel for the game.

  44. Syl Says:

    Is this guy delusional? The Bucs defense came along at the end of the year, and they still couldn’t stop folks when they needed to stop them. The running game is balanced? In what world?

  45. Iamabuc Says:

    Our defence should just stop complaining about turnovers. That’s what they are there for, that’s why they get paid millions, that’s why they are called “our defense”; to hit the field whenever they’re called upon (key word – “whenever”), to get that pigskin back!!…Jesuschrist !!…Are we talking about futball here?…Keep Winston!!…he’s our best bet!!

  46. SteveK Says:

    tmaxcon Says:
    February 25th, 2020 at 10:00 am
    Bucsfanman Says:
    February 25th, 2020 at 6:04 am

    I can’t wait for this to be settled once and for all.
    If……
    If…….
    If………

    It’s already settled pal

    If Glazers can make a bad decsion they will fail

    If Glazers trust licht or a washed up BA 100% they will fail

    If Glazers allow Jameis to walk he will be hoisting a lombardi hopefully next year in glazers own goat pasture.

    ———

    Wanna make a bet about which QB is hoisting the Lombardi next year? You love Jameis, but hate Dungy. Dungy was a better coach than Jameis is a QB to this point.

    With that said I agree that the D was much better once a certain teddy bear was let go.

  47. SteveK Says:

    Winston is a turnover machine.

    He defense was 5th in takeaways, but 13 with 41 turnovers.

    Jameis had more turnovers than touchdowns. That’s horrific
    AF.

    Wake up and smell the turnovers.

    Over the past 50 years, the team which won the turnover margin won 70% of the time.

  48. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Upon further review all 30
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhfpQcL1ETc

  49. Tom in Madcity Says:

    I could not agree more. If the Bucs move on from Winston, which I personally think they should, they MUST invest in their running game, upgrade the offensive tackle, and solidify their defensive line. If they do these things, the quarterback does not need to be elite, just smart with the football.

  50. Cobraboy Says:

    It makes more cap sense to get a “game manager”, draft a young QB, sign the D line, and draft a solid RT and RB than spend the $$$ for Winston and ignore the rest.

    Because that is the bottom line: a big Winston extension means the rest of the team suffers badly.

    Bot one dime for Winston over $18mil.

  51. LazyMoak Says:

    If they bring in a game manager ,he’ll win with Jameis’s players

  52. mark2001 Says:

    LOL.. Jameis isn’t beyond a middle of the road QB. But some lovers have him going elsewhere and leading them to a Super Bowl.

    More than likely, if he would get on a good team and have a chance to start in a playoff game, it would end the same way the OT game did against Atlanta, the last game of the year.

  53. Will Says:

    Bucs fans that keep bringing up the “balling” quote if you haven’t go watch the interview. He says acknowledge that he has to get the turnovers under control. If I remember correctly the entire quote is something like “I’m balling and if I get that under control I’m going to be the best.” Question for everyone is 5000yds 30 some touchdowns balling? Yes it is no matter how you look at it. 30ints is terrible which is why BA said there was so much great(I’m guessing that refers to the yards and TDs while so much awful refers to the # of interceptions)
    I’m not a Winston apologist I’m a Bucs fan but I’d say this is the 1st year Jameis has really had quality QB coaching and that includes his days at FSU.

  54. mark2001 Says:

    Steve…and let’s not forget. We had two second team all pro receivers, and a guy that played almost all pro the last two games of the season. People want to blame Jameis’s forces on no running game, but ignore the quality effort and talent of this receiving corp to make plays when few others could, as a big reason for his yardage success. That is why they are all pro…not pro bowl… not some meaningless peoples award or something of the sort…but All Pro.

  55. Tye Says:

    ‘No need for a reckless QB’…
    Probably why other teams aren’t salivating at the opportunity to pry him from the Bucs!

  56. Matthew Fifer Says:

    tmaxcon Says:
    February 25th, 2020 at 10:00 am

    If Glazers allow Jameis to walk he will be hoisting a lombardi hopefully next year in glazers own goat pasture.

    ======================

    Tell us ‘o’ great Tmax (the Nostradamus of this generation clearly), what mythical team that is so close to a super bowl win is in such desperate need of a QB that they would take a chance on a career loser like JW?

    More importantly, what team has an offense that he could just super easily walk right into and learn well enough to win it all in the same year?

    EVERY single JW defender has excused this past season by saying that it was his first year in BA’s offense. What on Earth makes you think he will be instantaneously successful in the first year of his FOURTH coaches offense?

    Wow, just……wow.

  57. Dan Says:

    Please cut this guy. I can’t watch him anymore.

  58. mark2001 Says:

    Will…a QB saying they have to stop making so many turnovers is like an alcoholic saying they need to cut down on their drinking. Everyone knows it…that isn’t the point. The question is, can they change the part of their game that causes it, without losing the best part of their game? Quite frankly, I don’t know. If Jameis knew, he would have changed it already. Bruce has a much better idea, but even he isn’t likely extremely certain.

  59. SmoothBayRider Says:

    Will ……. 30 int ain’t “balling” . I don’t care how you spin it .

  60. Matthew Fifer Says:

    SmoothBayRider Says:
    February 25th, 2020 at 11:15 am
    Will ……. 30 int ain’t “balling” . I don’t care how you spin it .

    ==================

    Exactly, if you look at the list of other QB’s who have thrown for 5000 yards in a season, and the years they did it (a few of the QB’s are on the list multiple times), not ONE of them threw more than 20 picks that season. It speaks volumes to how tainted JW’s 5K is. He got to 5000 yards playing in garbage time with no viable backup so his stats just got more and more padded.

    Every other time it’s occurred, the QB that accomplished it did it because they were having a great season and playing at the top of their game. If 5k yards, 30td’s AND 30 int’s is the top of JW’s game, then thanks but no thanks.

  61. This Guy Says:

    It is not fair to say “the Bucs had no running game” when the running backs faced some of the most stacked boxes in the league. Barber 8th Jones 14th most, that means with two, TWO pro-bowl WR’s the opposing team said stop the run and make them beat us in the air.

    I wonder why with such a “great” QB that teams would do this?
    Maybe, they knew it was only a matter of time before there was a mistake made.

  62. SteveK Says:

    Exactly!!!

    QB mistakes are keyed on by opponents. And they stack the box to stop the run.

  63. tmaxcon Says:

    SteveK

    Dungy is a pos hypocrite nothing more

  64. ArmandoG Says:

    the reason Evans and Godwin were monsters this is because of Jameis, he threw them balls few if any other could or would throw and again he only had 19 int’s the other 11 were on the wr’s and rb’s – watch the f**king film

  65. SteveK Says:

    Armando,

    Did you watch the effing film from 2018- when Jameis and Fitzmagic split the season and threw for more yards, TDs and LESS INTs?

    Feeling sheepish? 🐑

  66. Will Says:

    My point is that soo many people act like the guy is oblivious to the fact that he needs to cut down the turnovers. BA and his keep firing mantra was done for a reason. BA now has a lot of film on him and they will figure it out. I think he’ll be back this season but on a short leash.
    BL will hopefully do a better job of getting Rojo involved in the screen game along with some outside running to stop throwing the ball so often. I hope for Bucs sake Jameis or who ever is under center has a great year and we’re not talking draft by Halloween.

  67. ArmandoG Says:

    SteveK

    Why would I feel sheepish when I back a QB that shatters almost every NFL record for a QB in his first 5 seasons. You want to hate, so hate playa

  68. firethecannons Says:

    good article!
    Bucs need Conklin or Mekhi Becton and a top caliber guard and a decent running back, perhaps a powerback like AJ Dillon in 3rd round. Make Jameis be a game manager as needed, throwing 5000+ is not something to be proud of–it is a clear example of Byron Leftwich’s focked up game plan. Though with no run game he exploited whatever weapons he had. Anyway now we need balance and maybe JW will be able to contain the turnovers.

  69. firethecannons Says:

    Dan Says:
    February 25th, 2020 at 11:03 am
    Please cut this guy. I can’t watch him anymore.

    honestly I will feel fine fine if they cut Winston–can hardly watch a whole game anymore, feel same way as Dan

  70. Will Says:

    AJ Dillon and RoJo could be a very nice RB tandem.