“Joe Flacco Would Be A Good Fit In Tampa”
February 7th, 2020
Ex-QB weighs in.
The down-on-Jameis crowd keeps getting louder.
And two of them were talking to the nation yesterday about America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston.
Former Bears and Steelers starting QB Jim Miller, alongside his SiriusXM NFL Radio co-host and former NFL personnel man and coach Pat Kirwan, spoke in the past tense about Jameis in Tampa.
Neither believes Jameis would accept a modest contract from the Bucs. So they’ve moved on in their line of thinking.
Miller was adamant that Jameis’ turnovers cost the Bucs three wins last season. And Kirwan thinks the Bucs absolutely cannot waste the talents of Chris Godwin and Mike Evans.
“Joe Flacco to me would be a good fit in Tampa. … Flacco, he’d be perfect to me,” Miller said, commenting on what would be best for the Bucs if they don’t draft a QB in Round 1.
Option 2 for Miller? Wait for it … I appears to be Andy Dalton — because of what Bruce Arians experienced as Browns offensive coordinator in 2002.
“I think they can win with Andy Dalton because he’s done it before,” Miller said. “Think about back in Cleveland when [Arians and the Browns] won with [Kelly] Holcumb, Holcumb actually led [the Browns] to them to the playoffs; he’s like an Andy Dalton type of player.”
Flacco at 35 years old? Well, Joe could see Arians liking the arm and the experience. And the same would go for Dalton, who Joe would prefer if one was forced (tortured?) to choose between those retreads.
For those wondering, Flacco is under contract with Denver and is due $20.2 million in 2020.
Kirwan pleaded for the Bucs to pursue fixing the QB position in the draft.
“Package anything to draft the guy you want,” Kirwan said. “So you give away the ranch and you get the guy you want. You want to keep doing the average thing?”
Both Miller and Kirwan said they would applaud the Bucs trading up to draft QB Justin Herbert out of Oregon.
February 7th, 2020 at 11:39 am
I don’t agree. I’d rather have Shane Falco.
February 7th, 2020 at 11:40 am
I would rather sell the farm for TUA.
February 7th, 2020 at 11:41 am
Kirwan… Miller…
February 7th, 2020 at 11:43 am
No I’d pass on both. When both QBs were at the top of there game whats the two things they had that always worked for them not matter what? They both had a running game and a defense. I’d take my chances with Jameis coming back or drafting a QB. IMO you gotta let both of them or the rookie come in and learn this offense which we have heard from former QB Carson Palmer that it takes a while to get an understanding. So Jameis in year 2 of this offense or Rookie QB learning is your best options as long as the RT, and running game is addressed along with the defense playing good every week from the start of the game.
February 7th, 2020 at 11:45 am
Nah! We’ll keep Jameis, coach him up and he will lead us to the promised land
February 7th, 2020 at 11:47 am
Billy, I wasn’t impressed with Tua.
February 7th, 2020 at 11:48 am
Would rather have Rivers or Brady or Brudgewater without having to trade a player or pick…..
For the exception of Bridgewater (age)……we would need to draft a QB for the future…..
Even keeping Winston, it would be prudent to draft a QB.
Thanks to Winston’s inconsistency we need to have a plan B.
February 7th, 2020 at 11:48 am
Who writes these articles who says this mess why why why I’m really sick of this Flacco sucks so bad he can’t even move Andy Dalton is average at best and a midget hell no id rather have jameis than those two
February 7th, 2020 at 11:51 am
Watch out … here comes 813 to agree that flacco is the best option bcuz he throws less INT and 813 gets to keep shaq! Lol
GO BUCS!!!
February 7th, 2020 at 11:53 am
Nooooooooooooo! Please god no! Noooooooooooooo!
February 7th, 2020 at 11:53 am
Omg .. I’m obsessed with the word “lol” … lol.
February 7th, 2020 at 11:56 am
i trust BA….
if BA thinks he can win another QB as he’s already stated, bring it on….
GO BUCS!!!!
February 7th, 2020 at 11:58 am
adrnagy
as usual, wrong again!!!!!!
how many times has JF been to the playoffs?….does he have an SB ring?….
now compare that to JWs resume….lol….
GO BUCS!!!!!!
February 7th, 2020 at 11:59 am
Lol.
I want Jameis gone! But I’d rather him get a long term contract than see Flacco anywhere near our ugly uniforms.
February 7th, 2020 at 12:07 pm
Lol no.
February 7th, 2020 at 12:08 pm
Glazers fired Dunghy for not opening up the offense, and fired Gruden for constantly using recycled QB’s. My opinion is the Glazers want a just turned 26 yrs old QB with 5 yrs experience. Just a little maturity will calm down a cocky young QB.
February 7th, 2020 at 12:10 pm
game manager- I’ll take it.
lose the crabman
February 7th, 2020 at 12:12 pm
Joe Flacco should be at the bottom of the list…
If Arians prefers Flacco over the others then as long as they start winning, welcome to Tampa!
But Dalton seems to be more suitable..
Carr would be the most intriguing if they could aquire him…
Eason, Fromm or possibly even Hurts should not be passed up if they fall to the Bucs in the 2nd round!
February 7th, 2020 at 12:13 pm
oh God, please no.
I will literally take ANYONE over Flacco.
February 7th, 2020 at 12:14 pm
Marine Buc Says:
“Nooooooooooooo! Please god no! Noooooooooooooo!”
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Ditto. LOL!!!
February 7th, 2020 at 12:19 pm
813bucboi :
I think you’re on to something. BA is supposed to be this great QB whisperer, so let it fall on him. He picks a loser he’s gone and I don’t have to deal with all the contingencies that will fill these articles between now and the start of 2020 season. He gets paid the big bucks and he is going to do whatever he wants anyway. As long as he doesn’t screw up the Defense I could care less.
February 7th, 2020 at 12:22 pm
A Demon screening no to a ‘little g’ god….
Now that is symbolic!…
February 7th, 2020 at 12:24 pm
Joe Flacco is trash, no thanks
February 7th, 2020 at 12:28 pm
Ridiculous….seems to me an agent has been lobbyibg on some analysts!!!!
How could you possibly say something like that…….
February 7th, 2020 at 12:29 pm
Not sure how many SB he won. I know that ray Lewis , ngata, Ed reed ,Suggs ,tucker etc won.
Pls listen … go and open your eyes while watching football.
I guess bucs are in so of a desperate mode. Listen Bruce took the job bcuz of jameis. He defended jameis through the season and int. This is all a negotiation delay. We will get jameis on a 4 yr 100M.
813bucboi Says:
February 7th, 2020 at 11:58 am
adrnagy
as usual, wrong again!!!!!!
how many times has JF been to the playoffs?….does he have an SB ring?….
now compare that to JWs resume….lol….
GO BUCS!!!!!!
February 7th, 2020 at 12:42 pm
Tye Says:
“A Demon screening no to a ‘little g’ god….
Now that is symbolic!…”
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Haha, I love it, brother!
I am definitely a God fearing & loving soul.
The “Demon” thing just goes to my Heavy Metal roots, and also the most wicked uniforms I ever created on Madden (years ago) as the… you guessed it… Tampa Bay Demons. 😉
February 7th, 2020 at 12:43 pm
guys, gals and ndog…..
crabman aint coming back. He’ll have to mail order Brocatos from now on.
too many better options!
February 7th, 2020 at 12:43 pm
Im all for letting Winston go, but Flacco? No. No. And…. no.
February 7th, 2020 at 12:44 pm
Hard no on Flacco but JayMiss must go.
Figure it out Licht!
February 7th, 2020 at 12:51 pm
Adrnagy…where did you get that Bruce took the job because of Jameis? He took the job because Licht asked him too, the Glazers wrote him almost a blank check, and he was intrigued by Jameis. He wants Jameis to succeed…but isn’t such a small man as to collect another years paycheck trying to make a silk purse out of someone incapable of being a franchise QB. He will put the best QB behind center he can,…and if we move on from Jameis, rest assured that we as an organization don’t believe Jameis is the answer.
February 7th, 2020 at 12:54 pm
For the #turnoverblind, we can win games with another QB it’s possible. Heck, they might even win more than they lose! What’s that like?
February 7th, 2020 at 12:55 pm
This is what we get after driving Jameis out of town. Joe freaking Flaco. Welcome to your future Jameis haters. You all will have earned it.
February 7th, 2020 at 12:55 pm
Seriously?
Tom Brady or Derek Carr. Maybe Andy Dalton and draft a JayMiss replacement.
Peace, out
February 7th, 2020 at 12:56 pm
Couch Fan Says:
“Im all for letting Winston go, but Flacco? No. No. And…. no.”
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Finally something for ALL OF US (Pro or Anti JW) to team up on.
A collective “NOOOOO.”
February 7th, 2020 at 12:56 pm
He took the job because we paid him a lot of money to come out of retirement…not Jameis. Idiots.
February 7th, 2020 at 12:56 pm
adrnagy
Flacco was named Super Bowl XLVII’s MVP, concluding a postseason run in which he tied Joe Montana’s single postseason record for touchdown passes (11) without an interception.
as usual, wrong again!!!!!!…..lol…..
BA took the job because of licht….
“There’s so much good and there’s so much outright terrible.” — Bruce Arians on Jameis Winston, Dec. 29, 2019…..DOES THAT SOUND LIKE HE WAS DEFENDING HIM?…..
AND WHO CAN FORGET THE FAMOUS,”Oh yeah. We can win with this one. We can definitely win with another one too because we’re going to have a defense,” Arians replied.
not once did BA say, sure we can win with JW because he can throw for 5k yards……lol….not once did BA say, we need JW in order to win….not once did BA say, JW aint going anywhere…..
we’re going to win next because of our defense….not because we have a QB that throws 30INTs….lol…
GO BUCS!!!!!!
February 7th, 2020 at 12:56 pm
@Mark2001
Thats there way of convincing themselves Jabooboo isnt going anywhere. Sure, BA took the job solely because of Jameis and wont stay if Jameis leaves. LMAO. Ridiculous.
February 7th, 2020 at 12:57 pm
If you’re trading for a QB, what about Josh Rosen?
February 7th, 2020 at 12:58 pm
Preach 813!
No more being #TurnoverBlind.
February 7th, 2020 at 1:01 pm
IMHO the only qb worth a first round pick is Burrow. Too many issues with the others. Keep Jameis, sign Dalton or Flacco as a backup and draft a QB in the second or third round. If Jameis wants more than he made last year, let him walk.
February 7th, 2020 at 1:02 pm
Couch Fan Says:
“Im all for letting Winston go, but Flacco? No. No. And…. no.”
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Finally something for ALL OF US (Pro or Anti JW) to team up on.
A collective “NOOOOO.”
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We all just want the Bucs to win but I dont think anyone is silly enough to think Flacco is any sort of upgrade to Winston. Heck I’d rather bring Garcia out of retirement before signing Flacco. I do miss Carmella…
February 7th, 2020 at 1:02 pm
this idiot is the only person on the planet that thinks BA came out of retirement because he was giddy about coaching JW….lol…..
man thats embarrassing!!!!!….lol…..
you must think pigs fly and 30INTs aint a bad thing…..
oops….lol….
GO BUCS!!!!
February 7th, 2020 at 1:12 pm
The Bucs should absolutely go after either Flacco or Dalton because it would be a terribly timed bad decision and that’s exactly what this franchise does and has done since Rich McKay left. The team is on an upswing and you cannot lose ground. I’d rather keep JW for one year and draft a QB. Just from a shear odds making standpoint can JW possibly have more pick 6 debacles and other bad mistakes that lose games? I say no so stick with him on a limited contract until or unless someone at least equal comes along. Flacco and Dalton are both inferior.
February 7th, 2020 at 1:14 pm
I love it, so you guys want Jameis gone so yeah let’s go get Joe Flacco or Andy Dalton!!!!
If I wasn’t a Bucs fan and wouldn’t be hurt by this would be exactly what I would wish on you people so you could see how incredibly stupid you are.
My goodness you people are CLUELESS!!!!
February 7th, 2020 at 1:16 pm
I wouldn’t touch Joe Flacco. Very overrated.
The hate on Andy Dalton though I don’t understand. A Winston supporter will look at Winston’s TD numbers, yards and highlight the success of Winston through that aspect but they ignore Andy Dalton altogether. The problem is Andy Dalton I would argue is equal to or better than Winston and can be traded for on a reasonable contract. Andy is a proven winner(see his record) and is at this point in time a more consistent QB than Winston. Has anyone actually looked at Dalton and Winston’s numbers side by side through the first 5 years of Andy’s tenure? What part of Winston’s play is leaps and bounds better? Everyone seems to gasp at the thought but there isn’t much that says Winston is that much better if better at all.
February 7th, 2020 at 1:18 pm
Flacco to the Bucs = No thank you.
February 7th, 2020 at 1:19 pm
It sounds like you just tossed a bunch of names into a hat and are pulling them out when you run short of worthwhile topics.
BA would have an easier time building up a rookie than correcting all of the wrong things in most pro QBs. Each has a dozen or two bad habits to get turned into bad BA habits. A rookie has more of an upside.
February 7th, 2020 at 1:23 pm
I do agree with Kirwin though. I think this team is put together enough now that a big trade up to get our guy would be worth it.
February 7th, 2020 at 1:27 pm
“I think he can win it all,” Arians said. “I mean, he has the intelligence, the toughness, and obviously the arm, ability to lead a team. We have to put the right pieces around him.”
It’s GM Jason Licht’s job to put those pieces around Winston. The first and biggest piece is Arians.
February 7th, 2020 at 1:38 pm
Arians on Winston: “His willingness to work is unbelievable. He’s in the office at 5 o’clock in the morning. I have no qualms about that. There’s no doubt. The whole thing is going to be built around him.” (cont.)
February 7th, 2020 at 1:40 pm
I am honestly so F’ING TIRED at this point of all the infighting amongst all of us, regarding Jameis…. that I am completely resigned to being good with whatever the BUCS decide to do.
As long as it is not something ridiculous, like Flacco.
February 7th, 2020 at 2:13 pm
No thank you…Would rather roll w/ a rookie wildcard.
February 7th, 2020 at 2:15 pm
Fix the turnovers, penalties and special teams. Our defense is on the rise, we have the best pass catching weapons in the history of this franchise.
I believe a lot of quarterbacks would be successful on this team. I’ll let BA choose who that is.
In BA I Trust!
February 7th, 2020 at 2:24 pm
Pretty much Tampa bay demon. Granted the Winston defense force has been horrifically insufferable to blame every possible factor as minuscule as it could be for Winston’s play. And are convinced this team is so bad and Winston is so good he literally wills us to every single win we have. And completely ignores the countless games he has pissed away.
February 7th, 2020 at 2:29 pm
I’d rather bring back Jameis rather than this. If Jameis asks for too much money, and the Raiders sign Brady (as I suspect they will) I’d see about a Derek Carr trade. A 2nd Rounder this year would be my offer (if we could get him for less, all the better).
Other moves:
Sign a decent free agent OL that won’t cost too much
Sign most of our free agents (I think Nassib and Perriman will be gone, though)
1st Round: Best edge rusher
3rd Round: RB or OL
4th Round OL or RB
February 7th, 2020 at 2:35 pm
I’m a Winston supporter, but I haven’t made too many excuses for him. Really, some of the interceptions had circumstances involved in them, but how many times did he throw it right to the defensive guy and they dropped it? It seemed like to be about 10 times throughout the 2019 season. I think he will decrease the turnovers if brought back (still probably in the high teens, low twenties for INT’s).
February 7th, 2020 at 2:36 pm
@AtlBucs Says:
“Nah! We’ll keep Jameis, coach him up and he will lead us to the promised land”
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agree with the “Nah!” part, but then…. lets go with Griffin, anybody.., till JW is gone….
Is going to happen? Nooooo
BA = LovieS 2.0
February 7th, 2020 at 2:41 pm
Hell no for Flacco! Get rivers for one year and draft a qb
February 7th, 2020 at 2:41 pm
Gimme Flacco as a back up, a wii I gotta QB in his ear, something he has never had. Plus he needs to know he will be pulled if he continues inexcusable plays. Are the Broncos looking to cut bait…
February 7th, 2020 at 2:45 pm
Tampa Bay Demon Says:
February 7th, 2020 at 12:42 pm
Tye Says:
“A Demon screening no to a ‘little g’ god….
Now that is symbolic!…”
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Haha, I love it, brother!
I am definitely a God fearing & loving soul.
The “Demon” thing just goes to my Heavy Metal roots, and also the most wicked uniforms I ever created on Madden (years ago) as the… you guessed it… Tampa Bay Demons. 😉
………………………..
I meant nothing personal by it… I have not or will I ever participate in poster on poster attack…
As a man of faith I just saw the humor in the post and could not resist…
I am thankful you got that… Be blessed!
February 7th, 2020 at 2:50 pm
Michigan…how many times did Jameis fail to move the chains, going for the big play or missing the open man? Hold the ball too long trying to make a play and take a sack. Force the ball into coverage? Too many.
But if Ints are your issue, how many times did he throw the ball to a defender that failed to catch an easy interception? Too many.
Just saying… if Bruce decides to keep Jameis, so be it..he knows far more than me. But if he doesn’t, seems there are many more reasons than you seem to consider to decide as he does.
February 7th, 2020 at 2:52 pm
Lol… I think that Joe(s) writes these articles just to get everyone worked up. I tip my hat to you on this one Joe, because the keep him/dump him groups are unified on Flacco. Adrnagy..Quoting BA ” He’s in the office at 5 o’clock in the morning..”. Well, I bet he has thrown his first pick by 5:30am….
February 7th, 2020 at 2:55 pm
Joe in Michigan Says:
“I’m a Winston supporter, but I haven’t made too many excuses for him. Really, some of the interceptions had circumstances involved in them, but how many times did he throw it right to the defensive guy and they dropped it?”
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Right? — I mean, even some of the most ardent Jameis supporters (like myself) HAVE to admit this…. don’t we? – He could have had 40.
February 7th, 2020 at 2:57 pm
Formerly Tampa 2 Says:
February 7th, 2020 at 2:52 pm
Adrnagy..Quoting BA ” He’s in the office at 5 o’clock in the morning..”. Well, I bet he has thrown his first pick by 5:30am….
LMAF!!!!…LOL!!!!…
SO TRUE!!!!!
GO BUCS!!!!
February 7th, 2020 at 2:57 pm
Tye, no offense taken at all, my friend, and you please Be Blessed, as well! — It was just a good opportunity to throw out there where the monikor came from. Have a great weekend and GO BUCS!
February 7th, 2020 at 3:01 pm
Absolutely no on Flacco. I could be convinced with Dalton
February 7th, 2020 at 3:37 pm
This just in. Joe just said he wants Dalton!!!
February 7th, 2020 at 4:04 pm
Agree on shane falco
I heard he is back to cleaning the barnacles off the bottoms of boatS
February 7th, 2020 at 4:13 pm
Josh Rosen’s name came up above. I’m interested to hear what people have to say about that.
Josh Rosen? Discuss.
February 7th, 2020 at 4:34 pm
No Frikin way on either. Keep Jameis
February 7th, 2020 at 4:42 pm
Lmao what a joke !!!! 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
February 7th, 2020 at 5:55 pm
Much rather have Dalton.
February 7th, 2020 at 6:02 pm
mark2001: What you say is true. Winston did hold on to the ball way too long most of the time. I remember one game he actually threw it away a few times, I mentioned on here where that was “improvement”, IMHO. I got roasted by a few commenters, saying it’s ridiculous to praise someone for throwing the ball away. Well, it’s a football move, something that has to be done at times. Jameis needs to do it more often if nothing’s there, IMHO.
February 7th, 2020 at 6:09 pm
I’d rather not have Josh Rosen on the Bucs. That’s just my opinion, of course. Read up on him when he was coming out of UCLA, how he demanded a trade after the Cardinals took Kyler Murray (instead of battling it out with him), and how his career has gone so far. Probably will be on his 3rd team in 3 years.
February 7th, 2020 at 6:33 pm
No to Tom Brady
No to Philip Rivers
Bleep no to Joe Flacco
It’s either Winston or if you can get your hands on Derrick Carr
I hope the Bucs understand how much signing an “old” free agent QB will set this franchise back because your getting 1-2 decent years from a has been free agent and then your gonna rely on an unknown QB from a VERY weak QB draft class? That move will set this franchise back another decade.
February 7th, 2020 at 6:51 pm
Some people think Jameis is so bad that they would actually rather trade for Josh Rosen. Blows my mind.
That’s dilulsional. That’s just people being blind to all the good things Jameis does and focusing on 1 aspect of his play.
February 7th, 2020 at 7:14 pm
Ummm, no. Someone is on crack.
February 7th, 2020 at 7:34 pm
i think any big arm quarterback with smarts can have a good season under BA. Winston was benched last year because he was playing horrible and in came BA so why wouldn’t any other quarterback play well? There are some like Lee who wants you to believe there are no options better than winston. If winston get us 7-9 who cant do that?
February 7th, 2020 at 8:48 pm
Herbert would look fantastic in red and pewter.
Package what you can to grab Jim
February 7th, 2020 at 9:13 pm
Miller is trolling the Bucs suggesting Flacco.
February 8th, 2020 at 1:22 am
Dalton yes for the time being but sell the ranch for Herbert. DEFFIETLY!!! HE’S THE PERFECT FIT. He would be a superstar stud in Arians offense. JUSTIN HERBERT FOR PRESIDENT…
February 8th, 2020 at 8:09 pm
No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no.