January 19th, 2020

What kind of surprise could the Bucs spring upon us on the first night of the draft come April?

Could it be a kicker? Boy, that was a surprise. Or how about drafting a luxury pick of a tight end over a (sorely) needed running back? That was a surprise.

Well, Brett Sobleski of Bleacher Report tosses out a surprise name with the Bucs picking at No. 14. That would be Washington quarterback Jacob Eason.

Well, the door has been flung wide-open to the possibility of moving on from Winston, and the team should probably take it.

Washington’s Jacob Eason is a tailor-made quarterback for Arians’ system. The 6’6″, 227-pound pocket passer with a rocket arm and willingness to stare down pressure can move into a starting role after being a mid-first-round selection.

Could the Bucs draft a quarterback at No. 14? Wouldn’t shock Joe. It just depends what the folks inside the walls of One Buc Palace think. If they believe Eason can be developed in one year and could lead the team in his second season, then the team would likely tag Jameis and let him walk next season.

Now Uncle Ira, who has been itching for Jameis to leave for some time now but begrudgingly has accepted the Bucs may bring him back, has been stomping his foot for the Bucs to draft a quarterback and Uncle Ira leans on drafting Jake Fromm in the third round.

The thing that spooks Joe about this Fromm is that every time Fromm has thrown over 30 times in a game, the Georgia Bulldogs have lost.

Fromm seems to be one of those game-managers adept at handing the ball off and running an offense geared to ground and pound.

Just a reminder: The Bucs offense is not only not built to ground and pound, it doesn’t have a running back. Not a reliable one anyway.

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76 Responses to “Surprise!”

  1. Swampbuc Says:

    Not a chance in anyone’s hell that the Bucs draft a QB in round one. Maybe round 5. Fromm sucks. Eason? LOL!

  2. K_bassuka Says:

    We should draft a RB with the 14th pick period enough is enough, unless Tua falls and it’s available at 14.

  3. TDTB Says:

    Herbert at 14 is a good pick (not preferred) but Eason should be a late 1 early 2nd

  4. Colonel_mp Says:

    Take the top player on your draft board no matter the position. I agree Eason would be a better fit than Fromm. Depends on who is still available at #14.

  5. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    Isn’t there another Aguayo brother out there for Lichtweight to draft?

  6. Jeagan1999 Says:

    I’ve been thinking Eason too. He’s a big kid with a big arm! I could see him thriving in BA’s system. I watched a few of his games, and he has made some amazing throws into tight windows. He also throws a beautiful deep ball!

    But he is also still raw. Consistency will need to improve. But he has all the physical tools you could ask for in a QB . Vision, arm strength and pocket presence.

    And the best part is, he will likely be available in the 10-15 range….he would probably go after Burrow, Tua and Herbert as the 4th QB… the Bucs wouldn’t have to give up a lot to get him.

    We’d still need to sign a vet QB for a year or 2 while Eason learns the system, but I’m really intrigued by this kids upside. With the weapons we already have on offense….bring in JK Dobbins or AJ Dillon in Round 2 to boost our run game….I think Eason could thrive with the right coaching!

  7. Bird Says:

    Agree with you on Fromm

    I dont think he is anything special that the bucs need to take a flyer on

  8. Duthsty Rhothdes Says:

    why do people always say “better fit” if they draft a qb. Arians sounds like lovie. If the bucs draft a qb, he will be around longer than arians. Successful teams today do not have “fits” they adjust their scheme to the personnel, look at the final 4 teams, esp KC. KC isnt running the old west coast offense anymore, reid adapted as all great coaches do.

  9. Bucs Guy Says:

    Sorry Ira, definately not Fromm. Eason maybe, but I don’t see the Bucs keeping JW and drafting a QB. JW’s confidence couldn’t handle a 1st rd QB being the pick because the writing would be on the wall.

    I only see the Bucs drafting a QB early if they don’t keep JW and bring in a veteran for 1-2 years. Herbert would be great if available, but not “too many injuries Tua”. He couldn’t make it through a college season, so you know he isn’t making it through a pro season.

    Cut JW and go after a QB in the 1st, sign a FA for the long term or keep JW and pick a QB on day 3. We’ll know the plan before the draft at least, so there shouldn’t be a surprise during the draft.

  10. Bucs Guy Says:

    Does anyone know who the creepy guy is in the black and white photo with this story?

  11. Jeagan1999 Says:

    Bucs Guy….the photo is Gene Hackman from the movie Young Frankenstein.

  12. tmaxcon Says:

    ira also pushed for the unqualified career postseason loser dungy the clown for the hof…… ira has about as much credibility as a clinton

  13. Jf Says:

    Tua will recover and have a HOF career

  14. Ghost of Darrell Henderson Says:

    Eason would be a reach at #14, Jordan Love is a better value pick.

    I’m with the guy above that said, “Best player available” at #14. OT, edge rusher, DT, QB or even WR. Imagine Jerry Jeudy on this team? Bye, Bye Perriman!

    There is so much talent in the 1st round this year, it would be a crime to waste it reaching for a particular position.

    See what player falls to them in the 2nd round, Eason just might be there.

  15. Ndog Says:

    I really don’t understand all this love for Tua. The dude was constantly hurt and played with the most elite talent you could possibly get. If he can’t stay healthy in a 12 game college season what makes anyone think he would stay healthy in a NFL season behind a much worse offensive line? I mean the guys job was sit back in the pocket with basically no pressure and throw to guys who were wide open, WOW really impressive. Heck I could do that and get hurt just like him the few times I got hit. If we draft Tua we should just forgo our draft pick as the results will be the same, ZERO IMPACT.

  16. Stanglassman Says:

    I think if we take a Qb it’s more likely to be later in the draft. Like Anthony Gilbert, Washington State in the 4-6th round. He’s going to take a year or two to develop but under BA and staff could be one of the best Qbs in this draft class.

  17. MadMax Says:

    I really liked Eason at first, then watched a few of his games a lot closer….maybe in the 3rd. But if we’re picking one in the 1st, yall know who ive been promoting…Jordan Love, might be able to trade down to the late teena and still grab him. But he might blow up the combine and we’ll have to spend 14th on him. Im fine with that…then mekhi Becton for RT with our 2nd….Zack Moss with the 3rd.

  18. scot pederson Says:

    Why not the Bucs just wake up and smell the coffee? The Titans sure did. They knew after 4 years that Mariota was not going to be an Elite QB. So you bring in a decent QB who was on an awful Dolphins team and with a run game he has the best QB rating in the league.

    How can we pull it off? We trade for a caliber QB that is on a poor team and bring him to our team which is loaded at WR & TE, especially WR.

    Then we draft a ground & pound RB in the Draft which there should be at least 1 or 2 available at #14. There are 5 Tier 1 RBs up for draft and no way they all go that fast. Some of these guys broke 2000 yards and 20+ TDs.

    Lets go Bucs!!

  19. Ndog Says:

    Scot not trying to be a jerk but you want to pay Evans and Godwin like elite WRs then say we are just going to run the ball all day and never get them the ball? How do you think that’s going to go? Plus you have to build your offense a certain way do you think from what you have seen this offense is built to be a running first team? You have to be realistic bro.

    Also just a FYI Jordan Love is trash. Try to watch some full game highlights instead of just highlights, puke he is rough to watch.

  20. Hodad Says:

    If you draft a QB at 14, franchising Jameis wouldn’t work. He doesn’t want to be tagged, and having him with a 1st round QB would tear apart the locker room. If we go that route, bring in Dalton, or just roll with Gabbert till he’s ready.

  21. MadMax Says:

    Ndog, everone is trash compared to your all mighty jw….look at Love’s 2018 season, and no not just the highlights….2019 different coach, scheme, a lot of 2018 players had left. He should remind you a lot of JW though because he stared down the 1 or 2 guys he could depend on catching in 2019.

  22. Tye Says:

    With as much time as Gabbert has had to become familiar with Arians/Leftwich system, I am becoming more convinced that they may be just comfortable starting him 2020’season and let the draft and free agency play out to see who they can aquire… That makes since as to why no one is talking about concerned with keeping JW…
    Gabbert may be the one they would prefer anyway to mentor a rookie if they were to draft one!

  23. BucEmUp Says:

    Everyone who wants jameis gone refuse to admiy tgw defense has been the worst in the league since thw day he was drafted. FINALLY Bowles came in and the final.half of 2019 would have finished with a 6 and 2 record had Gay not missed 3 field.goals.Fix the run game , maintain the improvement on defense and Jameis makes the playoffs in 2020. I.dont want a qb who is a boring low risk game manager.Ill stick.with Jamies until I see him play a full season with this imprpved defense and a run game. If you take either one of those two things away from tge titans they dont make thr playoffs

  24. Ndog Says:

    For anyone that wants Eason put in the tape of him against Utah this year. He is great with a clean pocket but when it gets dirty his accuracy goes away COMPLETELY. Also throw in the lost fumble and the two picks (which one was a pick six) that were 100% on him and he looks great.

    So Madmax would he not be in a new system here? Unlike you I care about winning not just getting someone off our team. I don’t quite think we are good enough to have the 14th overall pick in the draft or even our second rounder not be an impact player year one. Do you or is getting rid of Jameis more important to you than winning?

  25. Colonel_mp Says:

    FoxSports has the Bucs taking a CB at #14. No way that happens. If any DB at 14, then it will be Safety from LSU, Delpit. Also they have zero RBs taken in the first round. Mock drafts before the combine are worthless.

  26. NPRSageBoy Says:

    Defense and pounding the rock are the winning formula in the NFL playoffs since the dawn of time. Anything less is heresy.

    Peace, out

  27. Bucs Guy Says:

    Jordan Love will not make it in the NFL. Clipboard holder is his potential. I watch a number of Mountain West games. He’s inconsistent and doesn’t make good decisions – both on and off the field. He’s Josh Freeman.

    Wouldn’t touch him — evenon day 3.

  28. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Sigh. People here are too biased to make any objective call. The way I see it, trust the coach. Possible scenarios are:

    • Tagging Winston
    • If Winston refuses to sign the tag, then either find a suitable free agent (none will be available) or draft a QB early…though maybe not the first round. That will give all the power to the Bucs
    • Re-sign Winston to a 3-5 year deal with incentives
    • Sign a top free agent QB. Personally, I don’t think one will be available at the start of free agency
    • Trade for a top QB. Not likely that a team will let one go with
    • Draft a Tackle in round one, keep Winston

    I will say this: Anyone who says the Bucs cannot afford to re-sign our DLine AND Winston is not looking at the numbers.

  29. Ghost of Darrell Henderson Says:

    “…Jordan Love, might be able to trade down to the late teens and still grab him. But he might blow up the combine and we’ll have to spend 14th on him. I’m fine with that…then Mekhi Becton for RT with our 2nd…”

    Amen, Mad Max. If Becton fell to the Bucs in the 2nd I would be ecstatic but I don’t think he escapes the 1st round. Daniel Jeremiah says he’s a top 10 pick.

  30. Aceofaerospace Says:

    Draft a QB.

  31. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Tye Says:
    “With as much time as Gabbert has had to become familiar with
    … That makes since as to why no one is talking about concerned with keeping JW…”

    • Gabbert is far too injury prone. What you are talking about is tanking 2020

    • You are going strictly by media and fans. First, that’s not true. Plenty want to keep him. Second, no one knows what the Bucs are thinking…except that there are negotiations going on with Winston (Arian’s words)…which means at some level they want to keep him.

  32. Tackleblockwin Says:

    I think Eason will be a good pro QB but don’t think he would be ready to start right away. He is going to need to sit behind a #1 QB and learn. Oline or Dline imo with our first rd pick.

  33. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    tmaxcon Says
    “ira also pushed for the unqualified career postseason loser dungy the clown for the hof……”

    Why are you always trying to keep the black man down?

  34. PSL Bob Says:

    Delpit (LSU) at #14 and a RB in the 2nd round.

  35. Swampbuc Says:

    Eason is the next Mike Glennon for the geniuses that think he’s something. Of course morons that cheer for Glennon will be happy about that.

  36. Stevebobucsfan Says:

    A men swampbuc Fromm stinks and I don’t think he fit our offense. I am almost sure the Bucs go RB or OL with that 14th pick which every one has the highest value when we pick. I do think that in the 3rd round they will take a QB maybe the QB down at Florida International. did some research on him and to me he fit Arians offense well and he has played with higher competition college teams, he transferred from either Alabama or Georgia

  37. Aaron Says:

    I agree that running the ball and playing defense does show well in the playoffs, but look at the QBs in the final 4.

    Aaron Rogers = $134m / $98m Guaranteed
    Jimmy Garoppolo = $137m / $74m Guaranteed

    Patrick Mahomes = About to be the highest paid player in the NFL
    Ryan Tannehill = 1yr 7m / What do you think he gets paid next year?

    I think you need a strong defense that plays well in the red zone, 3rd down and creates some turnovers is the key. They don’t need to be necessarily top 5…

    I don’t think you need a top 5 running game either, but good enough to make play action relevant.

    I’ll leave the QB decision to BA and the Bucs, but I’m curious to know how JW would play if we had a legitimate running game and throw about 100 passes less a year.

    Until this team learns how to draft and groom – I’m not sure we’ll ever be successful. I hear a lot of people say we need to keep the d-line together. So that means we need to pay big dollars for aging JPP and Sue because we have nothing on the bench.

    Go Bucs! As usual, should be an interesting off-season.

  38. Wesley Says:

    Take Eason or Herbert, Fromm is going to be terrible.

  39. Cgmaster27 Says:

    Outside of burrow and tua, not one qb from this class is worth drafting in the first round. Eason is incredibly erratic whe he gets pressure, jordan love had 17 picks in a g5 school, and fromm is captain checkdown. Dragt the tenches om both sides franchise jameis and wait till a much better qb class comes along next year.

  40. MadMax Says:

    ndog, there you go with your same old tiring attacking drivel….”Unlike you I care about winning not just getting someone off our team.”….just make it up as you go huh? I care about winning too dummy, more than just liking your JW dummy, tell you what else dummy, every QB drafted will be in a new system….thats why i said draft him and let him sit behind someone (even if its jw) for a year dummy….but no, you never read that or pay attention to what i say dummy….cause youre just a big old dummy… lets see what else youre gonna make up where youre thinking for me and putting words in my mouth….go ahead, classic dummy stuff!!

  41. geno711 Says:

    Let us define game manager please. It is being used more and more on this site as a reason not to get this quarterback or that quarterback.

    If the definition of a game manager is Marcus Mariota and what he brings to the table, then I do not want him either.

    I thought the definition of a game manager was a quarterback that relied on a running game and GREAT defense. Not going to happen here in the next year.

    Game manager has nothing to do whether a quarterback has a strong arm or a weak arm.

    At least one site has given the game manager top 15 to guys that included Terry Bradshaw, Doug Williams and Kenny Stabler. All those guys could throw deep. Probably all better than Jameis has in his career.

    Another site suggests that Troy Aikman was the best game manager of all time. I would argue that current Cowboy Dak Prescott is a game manager for most of his career with the Cowboys and that in the last few years Tom Brady has been an excellent game manager.

    I think as a fan base we have to continue to weigh the ability of Jameis to throw mid level routes with his turnovers vs. a quarterback that might not throw all those 20-25 passes but has less turnovers.

  42. Craig Says:

    Burrow goes to Cincy

    Tua to Miami

    Herbert to the Chargers.

    After that there is no need for the Bucs to reach from 14. They should take Delpit to define the defense. O-line in second and third.

    Fourth round RB. James Robinson, 5-9 219, is a sleeper, except for yesterday’s Shriner Bowl. Should still be there.

    Round five for a QB. Only other one taken by then might be Eason to Patriots. Morgan from FIU might be a good fit here, but there will still be 18-19 QBs to choose from.

    After draft, invite half a dozen undrafted QBs to camp for a tryout. You never know who might really shine.

  43. firethecannons Says:

    I see it in my minds eye:
    Bucs are going to trade down and pick up a second round pick, they will be in the mid 20 range and then they will pick Jacob Eason. Meanwhile Winston will be twisting on a tag.

  44. Tackleblockwin Says:


    Good point about game manager. I bet we all have different viewpoints as to what a game manager is. Here are a few bullets of what a game manager is to me.

    * Understands when and when not to take chances in the passing game.
    * Elite awareness at opposing defenses personnel and coverages – takes advantage of defenses weakness.
    * Elite field position awareness and clock management.
    * Prepares to have an out and throw ball away or not take sack when things go bad.
    * Excellent accuracy especially on short and medium routes.
    * Primarily focuses on moving the chains and not big chunk plays.

  45. Pryda...Sec147 Says:

    Lmao silly season is upon us.

  46. stpetebucsfan Says:


    As always well thought out and stimulating post. Made me think. Made me question what we really want here as well.

    I’m a fan of the old AFL..John Hadl…Darryl Lamonica “The Mad Bomber” and so I love the “style” of play since “blameless”. Which made me ask myself a question that I now wish to ask the other posters.

    Hypothetical…how tied to bombs away offense are we? IE Would you take a “game manager” 20 TD’s 5 ints who produced a record of 13-3 and played well in the post season over a guy with 30TDs 15 ints (reasonable to believe JW could cut his in half) and win 10 games and one and done in the playoffs?

    Which would we rather have?

  47. Defense Rules Says:

    @Bonzai … “I will say this: Anyone who says the Bucs cannot afford to re-sign our DLine AND Winston is not looking at the numbers”.

    Really Bonzai, you’re gonna play THAT card? Not looking at the numbers? Reality IMO is that ‘the numbers’ depend on the assumptions you make, and of course no one ever specifies what those assumptions are.

    For example: Since you’ve apparently ‘looked at the numbers’, did you ASSUME that Jameis would be re-signed for $23 mil (transition tag), $27 mil (franchise tag), or be given a multi-year contract (for $30 mil PLUS per year)? No big difference; a mere $7-$10 mil probably.

    Did you ASSUME that Shaq signs for $14 mil, $16 mil, $18 mil or more? How about JPP? Did you ASSUME that he signs for $12 mil, $14 mil, $16 mil or more? How about Suh? Did you even ASSUME that we re-sign him? Or Nassib? Or Allen? Or Nunez-Roches?

    Did you ASSUME that we keep Gholston? How about Minter? Or guys like Acho, Adams or Ryan Smith? (Those last 4 guys are UFAs after all, and if we don’t re-sign them we have to REPLACE them, maybe at higher salaries no less).

    And that’s just on the defensive side. Who did you ASSUME we replace Dotson with and for how much? How about Perriman? Did you ASSUME that we re-sign him? If so, for how much? While you’re at it, are you gonna re-sign Barber as our 3rd back to replace Dare (he is currently on the 2020 roster you know) or replace him with someone else? And while we’re at it, how much did you ASSUME a big-dog RB would cost us? Any ASSUMPTIONS about re-signing Gabbert, Wells, Watford, Hawkins? And if not, how much did you ASSUME we paid their replacements?

    Now let ME go out on a limb & say that there’s more than one way to skin a cat. So yes, we COULD keep Winston & still re-sign our DLine (JPP, Suh, Shaq AND Nassib). BUT … we’d NEED to give up some OTHER things in order to do it. Brate? Goner. Perriman? Goner. Adding a veteran Safety? Don’t see how that could happen under that scenario (re-sign Winston AND DLine). Oh guess what; I made a lot of ASSUMPTIONS in coming to those conclusions too.

  48. Defense Rules Says:

    @StPete … “reasonable to believe JW could cut his in half”. Not picking on you StPete (I know better), but I’m not sure that’s a valid ASSUMPTION (we don’t know it to be fact yet). The 30 TDs vs 15 INTs would give Jameis a 2:1 TD/INT ratio … SOMETHING HE’S NEVER ACHIEVED IN 5 YEARS AS A PRO.

    Jameis’ best TD/INT ratio thus far was 1.72 in 2017 when he only played 13 games (19 TDs vs 11 INTs). PRIOR to 2019, his average was 1.52 TD-to-INTs. So even IF 2019 was an anomaly, I’d say we should expect 20-21 INTs if Jameis throws 30 TDs. A significant improvement still from this past year, but how detrimental his INTs are to our Won-Loss record depends on WHEN & WHERE they occur. (For example, it’s the Pick-6s that really hurt, since our defense doesn’t get a chance to hold them to a FG or whatever).

  49. Joseph Mamma Says:

    Eason’s release appears a lot quicker than Winston’s, that’s for sure.

  50. Maze Says:

    Your Rojo hate is hilarious

  51. Stanglassman Says:

    Craig- I’m thinking the same thing Qb in the 4-6 range makes the most sense. Check out the kid from Washington State Anthony Gordon. I got a feeling lots of GMs already have their eyes on him so we’ll see him creep up the draft boards by April.

  52. Joe Says:

    Does anyone know who the creepy guy is in the black and white photo with this story?

    Here you go:

    Gene Hackman as the blind monk.

  53. SB Says:

    For all of the ‘Fromm Sucks’ crowd. You do realize that Justin Fields transferred to OSU and Eason to Washington because they couldn’t beat him out right?

  54. Buccaneerscotty Says:

    I would love it !!!!!!!!!!

  55. stpetebucsfan Says:


    I do not feel picked on…I take your point completely. I should have written a better post detailing why I think it’s “reasonable” As you wisely point out it’s.not a certainty. I simply looked at his entire body of work. Simply based on his first four years….30 is an outlier…at least statistically.

    If you take away this year…an “aberration”* his average is 14.5.

    *”aberration”…if I count his ints this year as an aberration so are his yards and TD’s IMO if he cuts his ints in half those glowing hail Mary statistics will also come back to the mean.

    In order to make “blameless” effective he needs to be more of a…wait for it…check down QB. My largest questions about “blameless” are not about his talent…but his DNA. He’s a throw it up there and hope in the belief that he has supreme talent…not just great talent…but SUPREME talent.

    I realize its an incredibly tough balancing act. But “blameless” doesn’t even get it…those comments after a horrid performance against Atlanta…still stick in my crawl.

    With all the insults from those who LOVE Jameis…his OWN actions…his history…forgive but tough to forget…I just do not feel like rooting for this guy. But if he’s BA’s guy then as a Buc’s fan he’ll be my guy. There is no Buc I loathe more than Sapp…but I certainly rooted for him..and loved his trash talking battles with Favre.

    I may no longer be a JW fan…but I certainly will cheer his TD passes!

    BTW…MY promise to NDOG..awshucks..BigHog and all those who have defended Jameis so passionately. If he returns I want him to win.

    If he returns and bad Jameis shows up and he’s tossed aside…I will NOT be here to say “I told you so”. Just a personal preference…I hate “I told you so”.
    If JW returns I’ll be on the side of NDOG and others..and if he busts out I’ll still support NDOG as a true Buc’s fan.

  56. T REX Says:

    Ndog Says:
    January 19th, 2020 at 10:00 am

    So Madmax would he not be in a new system here? Unlike you I care about winning

    This coming from a poster that whines and cries that Winston is the best thing ever yet has only 29 wins in 5 years and has the most turnovers since entering the league. And we all know that turnover margin will determine the outcome of games more than any other stat(besides scoreboard).

    Winston lovers lie…they do not care about winning. They only care about their idol and POS Winston.

  57. Jmarkbuc Says:


    So NDOG is the true fan, and the rest are clueless? Myopic.

    What’s next? Tmax as the wise sage?


  58. BrianBucs Says:

    The Bucs brass know that their fan base is dwindling.
    They know they need to make a big splash at the QB position to excite and energize the fan base and get them back.
    The vast majority of Bucs fans don’t Winston back.

  59. WestChap Says:

    Address QB aggressively and with a backup plan… it may all go to heck but just don’t passively hope JW solves his problems while preserving his stats in year 6. I say tag JW so we can (partially) control where he lands and draft a QB in first 2 rounds… if Bruce feels strongly about Herbert, Love or Eason, go get our man… even if you have to use up an extra pick to ensure we don’t lose out. If JW is ticked off by tag or we can get some great draft capital, do a sign and trade. If Bruce thinks all the rooks are scrubs, then we still need a credible backup… and maybe Gabbert is the guy. If JW isn’t here you need a credible vet even if we draft the next coming.

    Treat QB as a weakness and flood the zone with possible solutions, do not be distracted by Jameis’ winning smile or gaudy stats. Our failure to make the playoffs was a team effort, but no single position (not kicker, DB, OL or RB… even with room for improvement) was as culpable as QB. Fix it!

  60. Jeff Says:

    Franchise Winston and draft this dude. Good plan.

  61. martinii Says:

    Dobbins RD1, OL RD2, DL/OL RD3……….

  62. stpetebucsfan Says:

    As for Eason I do not have enough knowledge. I do not watch college ball except for big games and otherwise it’s mostly UF..FSU and USF.

    I leave all my college draft analysis to LUV.

    But if we’re going to draft ANY QB in the first two rounds hard to see how we still keep JW. He doesn’t perform well if there is competition in practice. He will not thrive if there is an “Eason level” QB drafted in the first two rounds.

    I do not believe BA would be comfortable putting all his eggs in a rookie basket.

    So who is available to bridge and mentor will be critical. We have Blaine Gabbert and yeah everybody seems to hate him and I’m not here to sell him…simply to point out that he was 2-1 with over a 60% completion rate his last year in Tennessee.

    If BA thought Gabbert could hold down the fort while Eason developed who knows…it could also be a different combo of vet and draft pick. I do not however seeing that vet as JW…he’s too fragile for the competition. If JW stays doubt we’d draft a QB high…possibly take a flier on the FIU kid who stood out this weekend in St. Pete way down the draft or better still as a UDFA

  63. Allbuccedup Says:

    Since we haven’t been to the playoffs since Chucky left might as well trade the farm for Burrow. Use the money you save for Winston to sign extra free agents to make up for lost draft picks. Trade your 1st and 2nd round this year, your 1st and 3rd 2021, and 2nd in 2022.

  64. Allbuccedup Says:

    Or the bucs next 3 no.1 picks and 2nd 2020.

  65. Ndog Says:

    Classy as always Trex. Bro get a grip.

  66. Slugglife Says:

    I figured you’d respond to being called a dummy about 10 times.

  67. Slugglife Says:

    I love watching other teams in playoff games. As long as the QB from my favorite college is on my team. It’s fun to talk draft in October.

  68. stpetebucsfan Says:



    While I understand your point I’m afraid that comparison I view as hyperbolic.

    TMAX is literally just a hater. He rarely adds anything positive…just negative rants.

    NDOG is perhaps too passionate about his belief in “blameless” but I respect positive passion even when I disagree with it.

    I agree with you Jmark it disturbs me when NDOG questions our true desire to win or our fanship. That’s unnecessary and dilutes his argument and in my case makes me dislike JW personally. I’m sooo over all the obsequious comments about “great” Jameis.

    Clueless doesn’t begin to compare with what TMAX has called me!!! LMAO

    So I HONESTLY believe NDOG is a true Bucs fan…and ironically you pick the ONE poster I do not feel is a fan of any team or anything. He’s just down on life! Sadly I find him to be a miserable human being so I try and constrain my criticism of him.

  69. Ndog Says:

    So it’s settled Madmax would rather draft a player in the first round and have him sit the bench rather than drafting a player that can help us win now AND the future.

    See below:

    MadMax Says:
    January 19th, 2020 at 10:56 am
    ndog, there you go with your same old tiring attacking drivel….”Unlike you I care about winning not just getting someone off our team.”….just make it up as you go huh? I care about winning too dummy, more than just liking your JW dummy, tell you what else dummy, every QB drafted will be in a new system….thats why i said draft him and let him sit behind someone (even if its jw) for a year dummy…

  70. stpetebucsfan Says:


    There is no QB I have ever wanted more in the draft.

    Burrow simply will NOT be available. I grew up across the river from Cincinnati and Burrow is needed by the Bengals on the field. But more importantly perhaps he is a local hero. He played high school ball about 2 hours east of Cincy.

    His inspirational Heisman acceptance speech has raised almost a half million dollars for the Athens OH food bank. Burrow is as good or better off the field as he is on it and after that championship you can understand how high that praise is.

    Bottom line is that the Bengals will not give him up…perhaps if you make a deal like we did for Chucky…two first rounders and two second rounders and I”m not sure that would do it.

    Bottom line for me is that the Bengals would want more for Burrows than even HE is worth. Or perhaps put another way..Burrows has far more value to the Bengals than he does for the Bucs.

  71. Stanglassman Says:

    Classy T-Rex.

    Please show us one example of someone defending Jameis telling a lie.

    And a example of someone claiming Jameis “is the best thing ever”.

    You got years and years of JBF message board achieves. Cut entire post so we can see the context. If you can’t find examples then we will know who is the liar.

  72. MadMax Says:

    Ndog, youre onto something, except you ignored the “future” part.

    Other than a rookie kicker and inconsistent db’s this year, what other position alone cost us games? QB turning the ball over. If, a big IF we bring him back and we have a rookie waiting in the wings learning the system for when he jits the bed again, then we’re good to go for a while and a turnover machine isnt costing us millions.

    Theres a QB playing in the NFC championship game today who did just that, sitting behind Favre, but thats clearly beyond your comprehension. Its not like we arent ready to move on from JW. Yes it would be a waste if we were def keeping him, but i think we all know his days here are numbered. Maybe a tag and he gets one more chance, but probably not with all of the other guys we need that Jameis money for.

  73. Buczilla Says:

    From what I’ve read, Fromm doesn’t have a strong arm, so he’s not a good fit in our offense. We’ll know for sure during the combine and pro days. I’m cool with Eason as long as it’s in round two or later. Having someone to compete with Jameis would be awesome. Who knows? Maybe Jameis can finally pull his head out of his a$$ with a little competition. Having two good quarterbacks is always a good thing despite what Arians thinks.

  74. Swampbuc Says:

    Which kicker will Lorcht draft in the second round this year?

  75. LordCornelius Says:

    Eason is the only QB I kind of like from this draft beyond Burrow/Tua.

    Fromm seems like a game manager / not made for this offense at all and probably my last choice.
    Herbert I just don’t know if his game will translate as well to the pros or not.

    Eason looks like a pro-ready type QB who would operate this system well.

  76. kyle Hoge Says:

    Im a Tampa raised transplant in Savannah Ga, via the army. UGA football is king here. I watched Eason a few years back before he was replaced by Jake Fromm. He was terrible! He was indecisive in the pocket, inaccurate..looked average at best. I know his old man was a nfl qb and all but Fromm doesn’t strike me as a prototype NFL qb, and Eason got benched for him.

    UGA messed up when they let Justin Fields go anyway.