Speed Kills

January 29th, 2020

Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians.

Joe has been harping for some time how the Bucs desperately need to upgrade their run game.

And if Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians still thinks the Bucs running backs are top shelf, then he needs an intervention.

Former NFL lineman, Princeton grad and NFL and college media mogul Ross Tucker brought numbers by way of NextGen stats that demonstrate a pattern for good teams that clearly the Bucs lack.

In 2019, if you didn’t have speed at running back, then you were doomed.

Now Ronald Jones has speed, so this stat tells Joe that Jones needs to be fed the ball more.

And please Bucs, just don’t hope your running game gets better on its own. Be proactive. You won’t see Joe whine if the Bucs both draft a running back and sign one in free agency.

25 Responses to “Speed Kills”

  1. 941bucsfan Says:

    Joe I think you may be fooled… Ronald Jones DOES NOT have speed. He is shifty, but he still a 4.65 40yd dash guy. Fans get fooled when they see Peyton Barber get 2 carries then they see ROJO get a carry and see how much “quicker” he is than Peyton, but rojo is slow. Saquon=Fast. Mccaffrey=Fast. Kamara=Fast. Dalvin Cook= Fast. Those are all players that have and are capable of busting an 80yarder and not get caught. ROJO is not that guy, we need a real running back

  2. LaMarcus Says:

    We are not built to run. We are gonna to keep “firing “

  3. LaMarcus Says:


    Ronald Jones is clearly a high 4.3 guy and straight line faster than all those guys. He just not that good

  4. Clean House Says:

    Anyone see Manchester United fans attacking the CEOs house with fireworks? 20 people- not saying I endorse this but is there a theme?

    I think it may be the owners who are not up to speed

    Would never endorse or suggest violence toward Licht although I think he’s a buffoon as a GM

  5. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    ah yes cause stud running backs are the cure all in the modern NFL.

    Joe still doesn’t realize this isn’t the 90s. also Joe you keep talking about offensive linemen (I am not saying ours are the issue here let me get that straight) and schemes like they don’t matter. yet the 9ers have rejects from other teams torching the vikings and packers to get to a super bowl. I wonder why this is?

  6. catcard202 Says:

    R.Jones II is a 4.45 back… He pulled a hammy at the combine 30yds in & still ran a 4.66 – pulling up.

    If the Bucs want speed at the RB position in this draft…Salvon Ahmed (U – Washington) is a name to remember on early day3… Legit 4.32 guy w/ good hands. Perfect role / complementary slash & gash match-up nightmare. Stable mate prospect for sure.

    If Bucs want the full package…Cam Akers (FSU) prototype build & “runs angry”…Solid & physical in pass protect…Good hands…4.45-4.47 guy. FSU’s program & talent being down around him, only made his production that more impressive. Complete 3 down weapon for someone in the 3rd.

  7. 941bucsfan Says:

    Stud running backs may not be a cure for “Todays NFL” but its a cure for “Todays Bucs”

  8. Colorado Says:

    Rojo ran a 4.48 941Bucsfan

  9. TDTB Says:

    Agree on Cam. Would like to see Kinlaw in first and then a pair of tackles then Cam in the draft.

  10. Defense Rules Says:

    RB speed doesn’t help much if your OLine sucks at run-blocking. We need a BEAST similar to Derrick Henry.

    Maybe we should bring back Mike Alstott. He averaged very close to 4.0 YPR, UNTIL Chucky got ahold of him.

  11. BucFanDuh Says:

    Well this is a blatantly scewed analysis… considering the average top speed of an NFL track star is somewhere between 21-23 mph. Speed isn’t the issue, the ability to reach your top speed is. First and foremost, that requires blocking to open the holes which allow the running back to reach their top speed… which requires an OL that can block. Considering the Buccaneers have one of the worst run blocking offenses, it’s no wonder that their running back is considered “slow”. Also, I see “fast” on the list, but at the top of the list is a Mahomes catered passing offense… and a lack of a Tennessee Titans Derrick Henry. Fast is cute, but I prefer production. But this article does show something… speed is important. The opportunity to reach that speed is important. If you blame it on Rojo, and waste time on his replacement, without giving priority to the OL. Then imma have to call you ignorant. That new running back will fail behind the same OL that does very little for the running backs production.

  12. Isaac haggins Says:

    Not impressed with Akers

  13. Evolvingbucsfan Says:

    I agree BucFanDuh……i was thinking similarly and Im no expert either and was thinking this….. but don’t you need to reach open field to hit top speed? lol

    We aren’t a good running team and its not all Jones fault when you limit his touches after he has shown improvement and flashes, run blocking has been very inconsistent and so has the backs roles and the musical chairs we play. those big runs he has had and then to be called back from mostly OL penalties take a toll physically and mentally.

  14. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Hard to have much speed when you have 3 defensive players hanging onto you in the backfield…..slows most down a bit….

  15. Joe in Michigan Says:

    There’s been several highly successful RB’s that ran in the 4.65 40 yard dash time range, Shaun Alexander and Kareem Hunt (before he screwed up his career) come to mind. We need to find a RB that can get a tough yard on 3rd and 1, if he happens to have speed, that’s even better.

  16. 813bucboi Says:

    we have rojo….he has plenty of speed….we need an RB that can catch out the back field and also be a 3 down back….

    l.perine from UF would be a excellent fit….him and rojo would be a good 1/2 punch….

    GO BUCS!!!!!

  17. 941bucsfan Says:

    Rojo aint ISH… all we do is make excuses for the guy. I never seen a guy trip and fall in open field so much in my life

  18. Conte Piscateli Says:

    It’s hard to judge a running backs speed if the o line can’t get him into space. Also of note on that list, the chiefs often used Hill and Hardman as “ball carriers” and the ravens picked up a ton of ball carrier yards by Lamar Jackson who is faster than Mark Ingram. Stats in a vacuum are just numbers.

  19. rrsrq Says:

    In that group above there is only one team with sped at RB, the Vikings. The chiefs have speed in their other skill players, which they use in the backfield, same with Niners and Ravens, not sure who the Rams had (was Gurly that effective this year)

  20. Brandon Says:

    941bucsfan Says:
    January 29th, 2020 at 8:26 am
    Rojo aint ISH… all we do is make excuses for the guy. I never seen a guy trip and fall in open field so much in my life


    New to following the Bucs. Must not have heard of Michael Pittman.

    Jones is a legit 4.45 guy. He was a 100 m star in HS and was supposed to run the 100 for USC. Don’t know if or for how long he ran for USC but he’s definitely not a 4.65 guy.

  21. AwShbucs Says:

    Ball carrier in this sense is defined by any offensive player advancing the ball whilst carrying it.. Not just running backs.

  22. stpetebucsfan Says:


    I love Perrine but he is not the complement to ROJO he would be a second coming of ROJO.

    I think perhaps you have fallen victim to the same canard that I believed until earlier this week…ROJO has bad hands. That is simply untrue. I didn’t watch him at USC but I don’t believe they used him much as a receiver out of the backfield but I could be mistaken. Otherwise I do not know where this ROJO is not good out of the backfield got started.

    So the perception is that David Johnson is a great receiving RB…when Joe was pimping for him the other day I checked out the stats between he and ROJO.

    As far as hands…at least statistically in the NFL…ROJO is a superior receiver to Johnson. Johnson hit a high of 76.6% catch percentage last year..his average is only 67.3% over his entire career. ROJO caught 77.8% his rookie year…far too small a sample…but last year he was targeted 40X caught 31 for a 77.5%

    IE ROJO already catches what Perrine would. Again I love Perrine but he would simply be ROJO number two. I want a real road grader…a beast to complement ROJO.

  23. AlabamaBucsFan Says:

    Rojo’s problem is that he does not wait for the holes to open up. Perhaps he has too quick of a takeoff or the G and T are pulling fast enough.

  24. AwShbucs Says:

    If you’re goal is to acquire a RB who can do it all, including being a 3rd down back who is a receiving threat out of the back field, you cant do better than DeAndre Swift. He’s easily the shiftiest and most complete prospect at RB in the entire draft.

  25. Allbuccedup Says:

    Cam is a great back with break away speed. Would be an excellent pick in the 3rd round. He used to running behind a shi__y line at FSU. He could be a steal in the draft.