Perriman Made Coin

January 9th, 2020

“Pay me.”

Yes, you see Joe holding up his right hand. Mea culpa. Joe was wrong.

Midway through the season when the Bucs were projected to receive a mid-round draft pick if they released wide receiver Breshad Perriman, Joe jumped on the bandwagon hoping Perriman would be sacrificed.

To that point, Perriman had done little except butcher plays, drop passes and run lousy routes.

But as the season went on, Mr. Entertainment, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, slowly and surely helped make Perriman a better player. And late in the season when both Mike Evans and Chris Godwin went down with hamstring injuries, look who stepped up in a major way: Perriman.

Perriman blew up so much that Joe is scared as hell Perriman, who was a first-round pick by the Crows in the 2015 draft, will be plucked by a receiver-needy NFL team this winter as Perriman is a free agent.

Perriman made the Bucs a team fully complete with receivers, as pointed out by Scott Smith of

In fact, Tampa Bay was one of just six teams to have three receivers all surpass 600 yards, and it was the only team to have three wideouts with six or more touchdowns.

Joe can think of a few playoff teams that would be all over Perriman if he makes it to free agency.

Don’t think John Lynch wouldn’t want him for the 49ers? Or how about Tennessee? Or the Chiefs?

It cool’s that Perriman seems to have gotten over the hump. Finally. But just like Shaq Barrett, that sudden surge after they both signed with the Bucs is going to cost major Team Glazer loot if they stick in Tampa Bay.

67 Responses to “Perriman Made Coin”

  1. Taylor Says:

    Sign to guy who gets the ball to all these wide outs already…Jameis

  2. Alaskan Abdominal Snowman Says:

    I was wrong too, I said get rid of him but he made some plays I didn’t think he was capable of in those last two games.

    I just don’t think we can afford to keep him, we can bring in/draft a burner or continue to develop Miller to be a deep threat which is needed in this offense.

  3. TheBucsAnthem Says:


    Perriman is gone…………..just like SUH too

    YOU CAN’T SIGN EVERYONE……………..this ain’t a Madden Video game

  4. Buccaneerscotty Says:

    If you think 42 turnovers is Entertainment………

  5. Swampbuc Says:

    Really happy for Perriman. Would love to seem him remain a Buccaneer, but with the need to extend Godwin, sign Jameis, and bring back the defensive FAs, unlikely. Good for him, he balled out as a number 1.

  6. JimmyJack Says:

    What I like about this story is how potential free agents around the league will see what we did for guys like Shaq and Perriman. Guys that got something to proove will be begging the Bucs to give them a chance.

    This won’t be about getting the high end free agents. It’ll be about guys with a ton of potential that for whatever reason couldn’t live up to it.

    The Buccaneers trend has now shifted. Remember how we would always lose player only to see them blow up elsewhere? Those days are done. We will now be the team who reeps the benefits of players being misused and poorly developed.

    This is exactly what Bruce & co did in Arizona. Pay close attention to all the lower end players we bring in this off-season. And don’t be so quick to write any of them off.

  7. JimmyJack Says:

    ^^^And this is why I was not on board with running off Perriman for a compensationary pick.

    If they had dumped him, fine. That means he was probably not working out even on practice field……But once they kept him it meant he was probably showing all the signs he could make a impact….either this year or next. He just had to get the looks.

    Kudos to the coaching staff for a job well done. The rewards now are much greater to a bottom round draft pick(many of whom never make actual contributions)

  8. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    Man I love how Jameis Winston the man who single handedly pissed away lets be generous and say 3 games for us is the reason for all these players being so good.

    Perriman had a pretty good end to the year on the Browns last year. Did Dorsey want him back? no not even for a number 3 he isn’t worth it.

  9. Tampa2ATL Says:

    Excellent insight about free agent attraction, JimmyJack.

  10. 813bucboi Says:

    consistency is key…..

    bring perriman back….

    trade OJ/BRATE for a mid round pick…

    GO BUCS!!!!!

  11. Craig Says:

    He will, at least, double his salary next year. I wish him the best and am glad he was able to become significant.

    It seems to be such a shame that we could not have gotten to at least 8-8. Oh, that’s right, 42 turnovers to 33 touchdowns.

    I would hate to see a team with Jameis on that had, say, the Patriots receivers on it. They would be permanently banned from prime time television.

  12. JimmyJack Says:

    Tampabucsbro…….Yeah ummm your thoughts on Perriman are pretty short sighted. Did Dorsey want him back?…..Well first off who cares about Dorsey. The dude just got fired for sucking…..Is that the same Dorsey that wanted nothing to do with Nassib? Yes, it was.

    Do the Browns even run a lot of 3WR sets? You should know based on your comment.

    While you are at it be sure to tell actually who is their 3rd wideout and how bad he is since that’s the guy they did decide to keep.

    Then there’s the big point that derails your point is the little factor called Odell Beckham Junior. It aren’t like he doesn’t figure into the equation……You know once you pay a guy like that it does affect how you spend money elsewhere. Not paying a Perriman to stay could be nothing less then a business decision.

    Point is I think the whole process is a bit more complex then Dorsey didn’t want him.

  13. Joe Says:

    YOU CAN’T SIGN EVERYONE……………..this ain’t a Madden Video game

    Bucs are going to have some $90 million to play with.

  14. Joe Says:

    What I like about this story is how potential free agents around the league will see what we did for guys like Shaq and Perriman. Guys that got something to proove will be begging the Bucs to give them a chance.

    Joe just might steal that for a story. Nice work.

    (But Joe will give you credit. 🙂 )

  15. SmittyToiletBowles Says:

    I wouldnt give him as much as he made last season. Overpaid. He had a few good games but mostly a product of great throws. Runs a great 9 route. Bout it. Tackles his own RB’s well while in motion and has the stiffest hips Ive ever seen from a WR. Definitely improved but its all about the cap. Can find a better #3 cheaper for sure. At least I would hope

  16. Buccaneric Says:

    Will the bucks get compensatory picks?

  17. JimmyJack Says:

    I swear I’m convinced some Bucs fans would turn in their mothers to the IRS if it meant the Bucs got a compensatory pick(at least you can spell it)

  18. JimmyJack Says:

    Cool Joe…..I first got turned onto the idea after we hired Bruce I went to some old Arizona Cardinal message boards and read fans saying how Bruce brought up a lot of low end free agents and got them paid.

    Don’t remember what players those fans were talking about. But I’m sure they didn’t just make it up. Would be interesting to see what positions it came from.

  19. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Product of great throws? Bwaaahaahaaaa.

    That TD in the back of the end zone was just sick. I’m not faulting JW for a bad throw…he was under pressure..throwing on the run and running out of field for both JW and Perriman. That was not a great throw…it was a wing and a prayer….not criticizing JW…it was ALL he could do but let’s not get wild here…that was Perriman’s catch.

    Once Perriman found his hands he blossomed. His father Brett was highly regarded in Detroit. Perriman is on the cusp of being a legit #1 at minimum #2 WR in this league.

    Someone said dump OJ and Brate and take their money for Godwin and Perriman. I agree. I like them both but BA doesn’t use them that much and if all we need our TE to do is block…blocking only TE’s are easy to find and cheap.

    I just imagine how exciting it would be to have three #1 WR’s…ME 1A Godwin 1B and Perriman 1C. If ROJO’ hands continue to develop and the RB we draft can catch…that’s a LOT of targets even without OJ and Brate.

  20. BucAllNight Says:


    Typical fan who doesn’t know wtf he’s talking bout…

    Did a FIRED GM Dorsey want him back? YES he did

    THEN when BROWNS traded for OBJ (after already having Landry)

    BP asked for his trade or release and it was GRANTED

    Do ya homework son before you come here spewing BS.

    Go Bucs!!

  21. ModHairKen Says:

    That’s why no in-season moves for purposes of future team building.

  22. Swampbuc Says:

    Tampabuscsbro setting a new standard for ignoration. Jimmy Jack — nice comments.

  23. lowercaseg Says:

    let him go and we can get a comp pick

  24. richbucsfan Says:

    If any team needs quality receivers it’s the Patriots.

  25. Billy_43 Says:

    The one FA I have really wanted is Scherff from Washington.
    He is one of the best Run Blockers in the NFL and Cappa could move to RT.

    It would definitely require coin as mentioned above.

    I really like Jimmy Jack’s post as well and I think BA and CO will continue to develop players with the best in the NFL.

    I’m just not sure OG can be developed fast enough these days.

    I mean if you can get a Quinton Nelson, yes, but you better have a Top 5 pick.

  26. LordCornelius Says:

    “Oh, that’s right, 42 turnovers to 33 touchdowns.”

    Not sure where you get that # from.

    Bucs offense scored 47 touchdowns and had 41 total turnovers as a team.

    Winston had 35 turnovers to 34 TDs produced passing/rushing.

  27. Rodney Munch Says:

    Meh. Are you really going to pay huge dollars to someone who did nothing for 12 games? I mean he did have a great ending to the season, but he did nothing the rest of the season on a team with no NFL level WR’s competing with him on the bench. If the Bucs can bring him back for another year, OK. If they can’t, well, OK. I’m fine with either, but I certainly am not giving him big money over mulitple years. Also the Bucs HAVE to get some WR depth, since after the big two went down, Perriman did well, but they had absolutely no one else on the roster to throw the ball to. Watson has proven he’s not an NFL player, and I couldn’t even name the other WRs on the team at the end – then you had OJ and Brate dropping meaningful passes as well. Perriman was a one man show, and did really well, but do you actually think he finally turned a corner – or did he just flash for a few games like he’s done in the rest of his career?

  28. Marine Buc Says:

    Let him go. Buy low sell high. He just had his best year he will ever have. I’m sure there will be a more desperate team out there that will show him the money. But he isn’t worth it.

  29. Mike in MO Says:

    This new defensive metric put out by the website 538 shows two Bucs in the top ten defensively – Carlton Davis and SMB.

  30. LordCornelius Says:

    I’d still take a 3rd round compensatory pick now over Perriman lol.

    I love the draft man.

    I’d take my chances on drafting a WR in the 3rd for cheap as h3ll on a contract for multiple years, over a few good games of big production from a 3rd complimentary WR who costs way more $$.

  31. LordCornelius Says:

    Looking at it I’m dumb – Perriman wouldn’t have gotten us a 3rd rounder.

    Right now we’re projected to get a 4th round compensatory pick for Kwon and he’s the highest valued FA we lost. Humphries = a 5th so that’s what Perriman cost us which is fine.

  32. JimmyJack Says:

    I heard that this is a deep WR draft so it might be a good idea to get one for depth. I’m always on board with drafting WRs and DBs late since them guys can immediately contribute on Special Teams.

    I will be rooting for WRs to get drafted heavy in picks 1-13 this year. Since we don’t need one every one that goes high will get us a better player. QB too though some might disagree.

  33. Lavonte 1of1 Says:

    Get used to not signing quality players after we sink 30+ million into an “middle of the pack QB” (not my description, but Joes).

    We could sign everyone again if not for this ridiculous amount for an average QB.

  34. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I predicted Perriman would outperform Djax…..not because Perriman was so great but Djax was weak….
    I was starting to become concerned about the prediction….but BP19 turned it around.

    Which would you rather have…..bringing in FAs that you can’t wait to get rid of or ones that you have to dig in your pockets to pay?……

  35. crazyBucs_CL Says:

    @Joe Says:
    “……Bucs are going to have some $90 million to play with.”
    … you mean less than $60 million, JW want above $30 million or else….
    Now if they get rid of JW, then yes, they will have enough caps to sing good players like Perriman, Shaq, JPP, ….. and so on. Let see how they going to deal with this, go for the 6 years in losing trend…. or go to other direction and make a so need it change in QB position….

    BA = LovieS 2.0

  36. Rodney Munch Says:

    “JimmyJack Says: January 9th, 2020 at 5:44 pm
    I heard that this is a deep WR draft so it might be a good idea to get one for depth”

    I completely agree on this. People keep talking about RBs – but to me, having legitimate WR depth is a lot more important since RB depth is a lot easier to find.

    To me in the top rounds the Bucs need to be targeting a RT, a C and a WR, in whatever order. Also there needs to be a backup plan for Godwin, just in case…

  37. Buczilla Says:

    Looks like having tne largest coaching staff in the NFL is paying off. Simultaneous practices too. I think that Perriman is outta here, but I’d love to keep him.

  38. Steve Munoz Says:

    Jameis made Perriman better?! What Are you high Dekemper? (Iras voice)

  39. Rodney Munch Says:

    “Tampabaybucfan Says:January 9th, 2020 at 5:49 pm
    I predicted Perriman would outperform Djax…..not because Perriman was so great but Djax was weak….I was starting to become concerned about the prediction….but BP19 turned it around.”

    D-Jax 41rec 774yards 18.9avg 4TDs
    Perriman 36rec 645yards 17.9avg 6TDs

    I’m not really sure how you think Perriman wins that comparison. The 2 extra TDs is nice, but it doesn’t outweigh the other stats.

    Not that it matters since D-Jax wasn’t a fit for the offense and would have gotten hurt in any case. I told my friend in the offseason that D-Jax would come in and look great for 4-games until he was injured. I nailed that, except I was off by one game, since he played 3 (although he really only played one game at anything close to full health).

  40. JimmyJack Says:

    Rodney. People are talking about RB because they want a upgrade at starter. With WR we really only need depth/ possible competition for 3rd spot.

    Cause we need a starter at RB I’d put that a much higher need then WR. Maybe you think RoJo is a fine starter. I would disagree.

  41. JimmyJack Says:

    And I think you can kiss Perriman goodbye. Our future is Chris and Mike. Some team that’s desperate for a WR will pay Perriman good money over a few years. We just can’t afford him. We need our cash for our Stars.

    I’m sure they’d love yo have Perriman and he might like to stay but business is business. For both sides.

  42. Defense Rules Says:

    @Joe … “Bucs are going to have some $90 million to play with.”

    Et tu Brute? If you’re going to quote financial numbers like that, at least put them in perspective Joe. $90 mil to sign how many STARTERS? How many FREE AGENTS? How many DEPTH players?

    BA & JL have a nightmare of a job ahead: trying to build a WINNING TEAM from what AT THIS MOMENT has so many holes. Even with an adjusted salary Cap of $210 mil for 2020 it’s still gonna be a nightmare. Why? Because right now we have so many NEEDS to be a competitive TEAM.

    But no problem, right? Bucs have $90 mil to sign ‘replacements’ for starters or key rotational players like Winston, Barrett, JPP, Suh, Allen, Nassib, Nacho, Perriman, Dotson, Barber, Adams AND for depth players like Minter, Acho, Watford, Ryan Smith, Auclair, Hudson, Wells … plus quite a few others. No worry though, I’m sure $90 mil will do it … in Alice’s Wonderland.

  43. Defense Rules Says:

    Hmmm, why did I think that puppy would end up in Moderation?

  44. Rodney Munch Says:

    “JimmyJack Says:January 9th, 2020 at 6:19 pm
    Rodney. People are talking about RB because they want a upgrade at starter. With WR we really only need depth/ possible competition for 3rd spot.

    Cause we need a starter at RB I’d put that a much higher need then WR. Maybe you think RoJo is a fine starter. I would disagree.”

    Ronnie is fine as a starter – again the Bucs don’t need a top running game. But they do badly need a top pass catching back. Also a 3rd WR is a lot more important than a RB in this offense – at least to the extent that someone would be better than Rojo. RB’s are a dime a dozen, productive big WR’s are not.

    Also David Johnson is very likely to get cut, if that happens and the Bucs can get him on a prove it deal, then I go that route.

    I’m not going to be upset if the Bucs take a RB, but we saw what happened at the end of the season. Rojo has his best game of the season against the Falcons, is running the ball really well, but Perriman is taken out of the game by the Falcon coaches at half-time who put all their effort into stopping him and the offense came to a complete halt because there was literally no one else to throw the ball to since Arians doesn’t use his TEs. Look at Brady for example, he has two very good RBs, and a better WR core than the Bucs had in week 17, and he couldn’t even beat the Dolphins. WR depth is a lot more important than even RB starters in the year 2020.

  45. Pelsbuc61 Says:

    I can easily see Perriman in a Patriots jersey. He will go the way of Adam Humphries. Bucs could sign him if not for the turnover machine.

  46. JimmyJack Says:

    Well I don’t think RoJo should be a starter in this league. Won’t put it by him to get even better next year and change my mind but I’m not betting on it.

    IMO if you can find a stud RB it adds a dimension to this offense making us extremely difficult to defend. Don’t see any 3rd wideouts having that big of a role.

    Most importantly I’m a firm believer that you have to be able to win football games in different ways if you wanna compete. If you can only win in one phase eventually you’ll run into a team that can shut it down. Then what?……You could maybe get by with a one dimensional offense if you got a defense that can win you games……But if I’m the Bucs I’m aiming to get a stud RB. Gonna try to give my teams more then one way to win a football game.

  47. Adrnagy Says:

    Unless bucs dump a TE. Perriman is back or if he takes a value deal. I don’t think we need to draft a RB. I think we need to find a vet RB to compliment ROJo. Kind of gore/Singletary up in buffalo.

    Miller was drafted to take over the 3rd spot.

  48. JimbobBucsFan Says:

    JimmyJack, your first post nailed it!

    I am not going to worry about who we lose in free agency as I now have faith that BA & JL together will find us what we need. I was worried before.

    I do expect upgrades all around the team.  I am hoping for a another solid set of decisions in free agency, potential trades and a good draft again!  Onward and upward.  We are now in the process of building for a serious play off run at the Lombardi  in the next couple of years.  I am not concerned about turnover in the coaching staff as much either.

    I BA I trust.  I really do.  I think the whole regime we have in place is of high quality.  Change will happen every year but I expect only for the franchise to get better this year and in following years.

  49. Brandon Says:



    Perriman asked for and was granted his release by the Browns after the team traded for Beckham.

  50. JimbobBucsFan Says:

    Let us hope Miller can have an injury free year so we can learn what we have in him.

  51. Sorryjackchuckiesback Says:

    Dump him he did the same thing in Cleveland… For some reason it takes him half a season to get going…. Scotty Miller can be a better 3 option than him given the snaps, opportunity and a QB that can hit him on the run… Which I have to admit Winston did a much better job of this year on his way to 30 picks ending our playoff hopes….. It’s funny that ALL the numbers prove out over and over that turning the ball over a stupid amount of times will always put you in the bottom half the league!!!! Every pro coach will tell you that too but for some reason we debate if Winston is keepable … But he threw a bunch of yards and touchdowns… Ok let’s figure how many points he scored for the other team and their yards off picks

  52. Defense Rules Says:

    @JimmyJack … “I’m a firm believer that you have to be able to win football games in different ways if you wanna compete. If you can only win in one phase eventually you’ll run into a team that can shut it down. Then what?”

    Aah yes, JimmyJack, the BALANCED TEAM … on offense AND defense … gives you the flexibility to win in multiple ways. That’s especially important IMO in the playoffs. ALL 12 teams are good, but some are better than others. Strong defense is a MUST (ask the 2016 Falcons). But a strong offense that can beat you on the ground or in the air is also a MUST in today’s NFL.

    In this year’s playoffs we saw a good example of that I think in the New Orleans Saints-Vikings game. Saints had a great season (13-3) but lost 26-20 in OT to a 10-6 Minnesota team. Vikings ran the ball 40 times (for 136 yards … 3.4 YPG), while the more passing-focused Saints ran it only 17 times (for 97 yards … 5.7 YPG). Vikings rushing wasn’t nearly as effective as the Saints rushing in YPC, but they mixed it up well enough with their 31 passes (19 completed for 242 yards) to put up 37 minutes TOP (to the Saints 27.5 minutes TOP). Vikings parlayed the better defense AND their more BALANCED attack into a playoff WIN.

  53. Rodney Munch Says:

    @JimmyJack … “I’m a firm believer that you have to be able to win football games in different ways if you wanna compete. If you can only win in one phase eventually you’ll run into a team that can shut it down. Then what?”

    The 2002 Bucs had the 27th ranked rushing game in football.

    This year the most unbalanced team in football is… the Baltimore Ravens. They’re #1 in Rushing, #27 in Passing. (The Bucs are #1 in passing, #24 in rushing).

    The point of the game is to score more points than the other team – however you get that done.

    With all that said I don’t think the RB talent is all that important – it’s more about the o-line and the playcalling. That’s why I think Ronnie is just fine. But the Bucs HAVE to have a much better 3rd down back, if they want to spend capital on that, I totally understand. But someone to just take it 4.2 yards on 1st down, or 4.5 yards on 1st down – that’s not worth a top pick in my mind.

  54. Rodney Munch Says:

    On a different note there’s no real bad weather games expected this weekend – that sucks. Nothing is better than a blizzard playoff game. In GB it’s going to be 19 degrees, but no snow expected. In KC it’s going to be 32, again with no snow or rain. The other games are mild for Jan.

    Really disappointing to four outdoor games in Jan with no bad weather. Hopefully the idiot forecasters are wrong.

  55. JimmyJack Says:

    Sure Rod but it’s not really about rankings. That 2002 pass offense was not probably raked all that high either.

    That team was built entirely different then then 2019 Bucs. I mean you’re talking about an all-time defense. But we still didn’t win a title just on defense. If that was true we would of had more then one title. It wasn’t til the offense was able to contribute to wins that we got over the hump.

    This team is built totally different in that we are stong in one phase(passing offense) and nowhere else. That’s not going to be good enough to win squat. The good news is the defense should be legit and we should be good enough to compete this year. Don’t see why that should stop us from trying to get strong(or at least stronger) in every phase of the game.

    As for the Ravens won’t claim to know but historically speaking they always got a storng defense. I guessing they do again this year. I’m not claiming you must be strong at everything to win. Just saying you gotta have more then one way to win……..No way the Ravens winning just cause they can run. Other phases gotta contribute. And Lamar Jackson is probably gonna have to make some key throws.

  56. JimmyJack Says:

    Yeah we are #1 in passing. That’s all fine and dandy. Except when you get into a one game playoff and the team your playing has a passrush that can ruin your vertical passing.

    Once they take that pass away then what? Your not putting up your usual 30 points and then how your gonna win? If you can’t win in other ways you’re done dude.

    That’s what the Saints did to us. Their passrush harassed us and took away our vertical game. At the time our defense couldn’t get out of their own way and we never stood a chance. Maybe if we had a RB that could do something that game changes. But we didn’t have no other way to win that game.

  57. catcard202 Says:

    Let’s look at this from the 40k ft level. Realistically, if the Bucs plan to give Godwin an extension & keep him long-term…(meaning the Bucs will have ~$30M+/yr committed to the WR position, between Evan & Godwin)…Then Bucs have to move on if he wants more than a nominal raise.

    I mean, which Perriman are you getting on a new deal??? SEP-NOV Perriman or DEC Perriman??? The guy w/ inconsistent routes/hands for 3/4 of season…Or the guy playing for his next contract the final month of season???

    I don’t think you can bank on the later…

    To me, he has to viewed as #3 WR role player that is 100% replaceable for rookie contract money. Whether that be signing another FA or drafting a WR day 2/3.

    Frankly, if Evans & Godwin weren’t hurt down the stretch & JW3 weren’t force feeding him (trying to salvage his own future in TB) – Perriman would have been a “cut-bait & run” candidate at seasons end.

  58. Losing hope Says:

    So when jaymiss gives the ball away to the other team it’s everyone else’s fault. Including the coach. But when Perriman gets better as a player it’s bcuz of jaymiss???These bozo writers sound more delusional by the day 😂😂😂😂

  59. TampaTown Says:

    Way to go! Nice work!

  60. Defense Rules Says:

    @Rod … “This year the most unbalanced team in football is… the Baltimore Ravens. They’re #1 in Rushing, #27 in Passing. (The Bucs are #1 in passing, #24 in rushing).”

    Uhhh Rod, YARDAGE … passing or rushing … doesn’t win football games. POINTS win football games, but I suspect you know that. Why skew the discussion with YARDAGE rankings, when SCORING rankings were VERY VERY different.

    The Ravens are a very BALANCED TEAM where it counts … in scoring. They were #1 in Passing TDs with 37 (although only #27 in Passing YARDAGE like you stated). And they were #2 in Rushing TDs with 21 (and they also ranked #1 in rushing YARDAGE).

    And not to be picky, but the Ravens’ defense ranked #3 in terms of POINTS ALLOWED. So from a SCORING perspective, Ravens ranked #1 in Passing, #2 in Rushing & #3 in Defense. Looks pretty BALANCED to me.

  61. Coburn Says:

    I still have some reservations when it comes to giving him much money. You could argue it just took him some time ere to pick things up but for me have a fee good games right at the end against questionable defenses is too small a sample size for me to feel like he’s a sure thing

  62. Ineffable Dullard Repairman Says:

    Why is everyone talking about a receiver that had done nothing in his entire career until he began catching passes from a nothing QB that owes his entire success from throwing to great receivers, like Godwin and Evans?
    The operating words being “entire” and “nothing.”

    Can’t have it both ways, haters.

  63. DelusionalIntelligence Says:

    “But as the season went on, Mr. Entertainment, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, slowly and surely helped make Perriman a better player.”

    – And how exactly did Mr. Make You Cringe, America’s Turnover Machine, The 2016 3rd Alternate to the Pro Bowl, Jameis Winston help Perriman improve? I didn’t know Jameis coached wide receivers. I would love to see the quotes from Perriman on how this all transpired.

  64. D1 Says:


    “Perriman may have been the biggest surprise — and the biggest spark — to the Browns receiving unit as it looked to rebound from the tough start to the year. His first few weeks were forgettable as he saw limited targets. But after combining for nine drops in two seasons with the Baltimore Ravens, Perriman simply had a switch flip. He eventually earned a WR rating of 134.2, the best among the Browns receivers, and a 71.8 overall grade .” PFF.

    I’m guessing you like many buc fans didn’t know this before claiming He never did anything until this year.

  65. D1 Says:


    Just to let you know, his pff grade for 2019 was 72.9.
    Obviously, Winston didn’t make perriman. Perriman needed targets, once he had them He delivered. If your point is winston was partially responsible because He was the one throwing those completions as opposed to uncatchable or not targeting him, fair point.

    To the latter, Perriman was not targeted by winston with any frequency until injuries elevated perriman into the #2 and then #1 receiver. Imagine what perriman could have done for Winston’s stats had he been the recipient of more throws earlier in the season.

    In Perriman’s case, you don’t let him walk hoping to find a better option. He’s proven to produce when targeted. It makes sense to trade Brate and use his salary to resign perriman. Especially, if Winston returns. It makes no sense to resign winston and not give him the weapons that helped him set both franchise and personal records for the season.
    Perriman was a big reason for Winston’s continued success after injuries suffered by the teams #1 and #2 receivers. That’s no easy shoes to fill , if you consider the teams #1 and #2 are considered the leagues best tandem, but He did.

  66. Mrs. Entertainment Says:

    SorryJack, I disagree about your first point (and your first point only). I believe that Perriman has far better skills than Scotty Miller. And I think it’s likely that Perriman improved in large part because of BA’s professed faith in him and his skills. An athlete’s ego cannot be overlooked or underestimated. As for point two, I couldn’t agree more. Turning the ball over on OFFENSE is the least entertaining thing in sports. Bar none. Mrs. Entertainment thinks that winning is the best kind of entertainment and really the only thing that counts.

  67. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    Takes a man to admit a mistake, Joe….kudos! Now ONE of the Joes is on the verge of fully admitting the Winston mistake……