19 Picks In 7 Tampa Games

January 2nd, 2020

America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, giving the ball away at home like it’s Halloween candy was a relatively new phenomenon this season.

It far exceeded what happened under Dirk Koetter.

Jameis didn’t play well at home. Bucco Bruce Arians and Jameis have acknowledged it.

Jameis threw a whopping 19 interceptions during the seven home games this season at the Den of Depression. Nineteen!

That’s more at home than he had combined in the three previous seasons.

In 2017, Jameis threw just seven picks in seven home games, and last year he had only four picks in five Tampa contests. In 2016, Jameis threw just six interceptions in eight home games.

Something happened at home this season, and Joe doesn’t believe it’s a coincidence. On Sunday, referring to interceptions, Jameis said, “some crazy stuff has been happening.”

Frankly, it is crazy. Players should play better at home, especially quarterbacks and kickers, given the precision required for the crafts. But the Bucs QB and kicker had major home problems.

It’s time to add a healer to Arians’ huge staff, or a shock therapy expert. Something.

84 Responses to “19 Picks In 7 Tampa Games”

  1. Mike in MO Says:

    Perhaps it’s simply a lack of focus. You might become complacent in familiar surroundings, like your own house, bed, etc.

  2. Waterboy Says:

    Koetter probably had a good laugh at the end of that Atlanta game end thought to himself I tried to tell them you can’t win with that guy.

  3. Tye Says:

    30-30 and 7- pick 6s for the record books…
    You don’t have a true qb, just a guy who plays one and not very well at it!

  4. Rick Says:

    Put some glasses on’em.

  5. H8JWLVEBUCS Says:

    The problem is he doesn’t care about his picks because “he ballin”. Once he starts caring then things will change for him its been 5 season with him he aint gonna change and I mean how many time have we heard “I need to fix it” if u aint fix it by now u aint gonna homey.

  6. Waterboy Says:

    Instead of America’s Quarterback you should call him Jameis Claus the he like to hand out gifts to opposing teams.

  7. DBS Says:

    It’s bad coaching. No it’s the receivers. Well what ever it is not his fault. You know who will keep trying to convince you of that.

  8. Pewter power Says:

    Thank goodness they played a home game in london and not ray Jay because it would be 24. I guarantee throwing less interceptions is more important than throwing for 5,000 yards. 5,000 yards got us another losing season, half the picks would have gotten us playoffs.

  9. H8JWLVEBUCS Says:

    I still dont know what happened to all the chatter at the begin of the season from all these commentators saying this season is a make it or break it season for JW. I really could care less if he is the starter next season or if he gets us to the playsoff I have watched him for 5 season and I know he will find a way to blow it one way or the other.

  10. NPRSageBoy. Says:

    Instead of adding a healer or shock therapist to BA’s already bloated staff, let’s just deduct a bad QB.

    Sounds about right

    Peace, out

  11. unbelievable Says:

    His TD:INT ration improved every year under Koetter.

    Then this year it exploded. Can it be fixed? Should we think that number will go down and his efficiency will improve in year 2?

    I lean towards yes, since every other QB under Arians made huge strides in this area between years 1 and 2. But now Leftwich is the OC, not Arians, so that may change things.

    Not sure, but I would be large money Winston will be back in Tampa next year. Hopefully with a capable backup or young rookie behind him.

  12. unbelievable Says:


  13. Crabby Fan Says:

    It must be the ghost of Hughe Culverhouse 👻

    Nah…it’s just Jay Miss doing as Jay Miss does.

    Go Bucs!!

  14. AKickInTheBucNuts Says:

    And “Pewter Power” hits the nail on the head.

  15. Smashsquatch Says:

    More pressure to perform in front of your home crowd than on the road. Simple. No need to read any further into it. Jameis goes backwards when the expectations go up.

  16. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    “It’s time to add a healer to Arians’ huge staff, or a shock therapy expert. Something.”….or finally shed ourselves of America’s Grop……errrr, Quarterback. (Hey Joe…just curious. Will he still be “America’s Quarterback” when he’s riding the bench for another franchise?)

  17. 941bucsfan Says:

    How many INTs were due to the “wind” on the southside of the stadium? If the kicker gets a pass so does jameis

  18. 941bucsfan Says:

    I remember when Jameis threw 15ints and people said we would never win with 15ints… now folks want 15ints again lol… idiots

  19. Defense Rules Says:

    Fascinating Joe. I hadn’t ever looked at whether Jameis’ INTs happened away or at home, but 19 INTs in 7 games at home is incredible. And since the London game against the Panthers was considered to be another ‘home’ game, if you add those 5 INTs then Jameis threw 24 of his 30 INTs AT HOME … 80%.

    I’m not a big believer in COINCIDENCES so there has to be something going on there. Less distractions on the road? Better preparation for road games? Oh wait, maybe it’s the home crowd cheering ‘Go Jameis, Go Jameis’ that eggs him on & gets him to take bigger risks. Of course, ‘Go Jameis’ COULD be interpreted in more than one way … but I digress.

  20. Dlavid Says:

    Actually it is 24 since technically London was a home game ( home away from home ) but the same outcome ! At least JW is consistent in his horrors ! Facts only please .

  21. TOM Says:

    When people call him America’s QB they must mean Central or South America, because North America’s he is not.

  22. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    It’s Joe’s fault……Jameis is believing the “Den of Depression” and Joe’s article about how important it was for Matt Gay to have a good game against Atlanta….kid was doing fine until that disaster….

  23. Marine Buc Says:

    So basically anytime Jamie’s Winston plays against a decent defense we have zero chance of winning. “Interceptions lose football games”

  24. Marine Buc Says:

    Jamies. GD auto correct bull shot…

  25. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    If BA goes with Jameis and Jameis plays like Jameis in 2020…you realize a complete and total house cleaning at OBP this time next year…QB-HC-coaching staff- Front Office….everything but the owners…round and round we go…

  26. Show me the TDs Says:

    It’s almost as if he does it on purpose, so that the 100 or so hometown fans in attendance will hate him.

  27. tickrdr Says:

    @Defense Rules:
    Nicely played, young man!

    Go, Jameis! …………………………………………………..please.


  28. Sorryjackchuckiesback Says:

    It was the field!! Every time they played at home you saw receivers skipping, running backs falling down trying to make cuts and the kickers not being able to plant and throwing their motion off!! Go back and watch some tape and you’ll see them slipping and sliding every single home game!! Hard to get in sync with your receivers when they’re on the ground!! … By the way I am in no way a Winston apologizer!! But,… They were slipping every single game!!… They need a new lawn maintenance process!!!

  29. Jean Lafitte Says:

    We all know what the remedy is but Licht won’t pull the plug.

  30. Sharthappens Says:

    Don’t forget the London game was considered a home game and then retard had 5 picks in that game. They would put him at 3 picks per home game. How does that happen to a pro QB? Let the crotch grabber walk.

  31. LordCornelius Says:

    lol that’s so bad

  32. wantstastayabuc Says:

    Interceptions are just a “hassle”, right?

  33. Ed Says:

    It’s called pressure, every year in openers at home he has stunk. Usually he is better on the road. It’s because on the road the Bucs are always the underdog and the opposing fans don’t consider the Bucs rivals. That Detroit game had a subdued crowd. Atlanta had tons of empty seats. On the road playing without pressure he a good quarterback. At home he isn’t. Many of those interceptions are just risky throws to covered targets.

    I’m not a fan of slow processing quarterbacks. The speed of the game is too fast for Winston. His vision sucks. The Bucs win 10 games next year with an accurate vet that completes 70% and throws less than 10 ints.

    Keep the chains moving with longer drives and be smart with the football.

    The Bucs are set up to challenge for Wild Card next year by eliminating the inconsistency and mistakes of the 5 year QB who says he’ll get better but doesn’t.

  34. ATLBucsFan Says:

    Practice on the field!!!

  35. tmaxcon Says:

    the only reason the bays only hope and the on true savior Jameis throws interceptions at home is the small market bucs can not support their team and the stadium is always full with other opponents jersey colors thus resulting in the plethora of gifts….. maybe if he the small town could fill a stadium the results would improve. Cancer93 not jameis turn rayjay into the den of depression that it is now. small towns and small teams always struggle to compete with real franchises / cities.

  36. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Hmmmm…..the winning team seems to overcome whatever this “field” excuse is…

  37. twodog1970 Says:

    A road record of 5-3 usually means playoffs, but not for these guys. Maybe JW is complacent and a change of scenery is what he needs.

  38. Ghost of Darrell Henderson Says:

    “Practice on the field!!!”

    Can’t tear up the turf with practices.

    USF uses that field as well.

    Maybe just maybe, it’s something simple, like his wife is a nympho and she’s draining him on Saturday nights. Did she travel to London?

    Maybe, he’s an alcoholic and binge drinks all Saturday night. When he’s on the road he has to behave himself.

    It’s a definite pattern and needs to be investigated. Maybe, he should bunk at Byron’s pad on the nights before a game.

  39. Stevebobucsfan Says:

    Don’t care what’s being said about Jameis and what has been said, I want to see what James does next season in Arians offense If he’s bad the first 4 games then I am damn sure he’s done. As for the comment about Koetter is probably laughing and saying he told the Bucs they can’t win with Jameis just take a look at Atlantas record for 019, this is with a well established QB and a hell of a defensive mine HC. Also I think Atlanta is home too watching the playoffs

  40. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    Stevebobucs…..that’s what everyone has been saying for 3 years. “Let’s see what Groper does next year!!” ……Groundhog Day

  41. Mike in MO Says:

    Jake Fromm – 3rd round. Take him.

  42. Dapostman Says:

    If I was a shrink I’d assume Winston is trying to make every play and every throw to win over this fanbase. Trying to be perfect but as Vince Lombardi once said,

    “perfection is unattainable. But if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.”

    Catch excellence Jameis Winston.

  43. buchead588 Says:

    yes this is the one stat i couldnt understand why was Jameis so much better on the road then he is at Home i hope the Bucs can figure this out if so Jameis is a top 7 QB in the NFL

  44. DanBucsfan Says:

    Be careful what y’all Winston bashers wish for. NONE of these rookie Qb’s are a sure thing, if you have watched football for any amount of time you know that is a fact. Also a FACT that none of the upcoming free agent Qb’s are the answer either, Bridgewater does not have the skill set to run a prolific offense like Winston, and Cam is damaged goods , Eli or Rivers are washed up and throw damn near as many picks as Winston. If he can cut picks in half then we will be fine. 5,000 yards is clearly not that easy, so why not try and lock him up on a 3- 5 year deal? If we franchise him and he improves his turnover issue, he will command 35 + million. Lock him in at 25- 28 first 2 years guaranteed with performance bonuses. Id rather franchise Shaq just incase this was a 1 year thing and if his production drops we are not over paying for a 1 year wonder. Re sign Suh with another 1 year deal and JPP on a 3 year deal, IMHO this is a no brainer. But Winston clearly makes plays and throws that only a handful of Qb’s can make. Hell give him a running back to pair with Rojo and things will drastically improve. Would love to see Rojo could do with 20- 25 carries in a game.

  45. Craig Says:

    Home seems to be his least favorite place to play, maybe because he sees the stands a little emptier each home game and the boos a bit more strident.

    This is not a new thing with him, it has been getting worse though.

    Maybe it stains his delicate sensibilities when home fans boos and don’t bow down to the almighty Jameis. He has all of the symptoms of be Narcissistic. They have been known to be spiteful when things don’t go their way.

    Maybe he will price himself out of the Tampa market and we can start over.

    I know a drafted rookie will not have as many yards, but they will at least understand the meaning of ball security. With the progression of the defense we should be able to win with 20-25 TDs if we can win the turnover margin. That will never happen if Jameis continues to come apart at the seams.

  46. gotbbucs Says:

    …and now he throws interceptions because of the playing surface? OMG, the excuses will never end.

  47. Robert Says:

    now he needs a healer or shock therapy?

    if losing millions in endorsements for what he did to EK, then backing that up with grabbing an extra taco, backing that up with losing millions when he was replaced and made to look a fool by a 40 year old fitz………there aint no shock or healer gonna fix this guy.

    pack off the pipe. his pipe that is. please, for all of us BUCS FANS!

  48. DieHardsince88 Says:

    Lets improve the defensive passing game and get him a running game. We know who he is so lets do everything we can to make sure he doesn’t have to throw the ball 30-40+ times a game.

  49. VA Tom Says:

    I think Jameis was “enabled” by Arians and the scheme. He made amazing plays. He believed he couldn’t fail. I am not blaming the coaches. I just don’t think Jameis has a decision making filter. It allows him to make amazing throws, and just like gambling the house always catches up if you play enough.

  50. Wesley Says:

    Can’t rely on him with the game on the line. You have to be able to trust your q.b. In those situations.

  51. ClodHopper Says:

    That is the most maddening stat I’ve ever read!!

    Maybe we should trade him to a division rival. We’d get 10 picks a year from him

  52. VA Tom Says:

    @Wesley…right…? I think the most eye opening thing for me was the pick 6 in OT. I can understand the INTs early in the game and even live with them to an extent while the game is mid stream…the guy’s playing hard. But if the HC can’t trust him at a critical moment in a scrub game how the hell do you trust him in a theoretical playoff game?

  53. Defense Rules Says:

    @DanBucsFan … “Be careful what y’all Winston bashers wish for. NONE of these rookie Qb’s are a sure thing”. Don’t consider myself to be a Jameis ‘hater’ or ‘basher’ Dan, but your point is well taken. Ryan Leaf was selected in the 1st Round; so was Blake Bortles. There are no sure things.

    The nightmare that continues to stalk Jameis is ball security. And for some reason that’s apparently much more of an issue at home than it is when we play away. Which seems bizarre to me because RayJay has long been considered to be one of the best playing surfaces in the NFL, and it has exactly the same field size as the other 31 stadiums we play in.

    There doesn’t seem to be any common thread amongst Jameis’ INTs that I can see. Of the 30 INTs that he threw this year, 7 were Pick-6s, 6 others resulted in our defense surrendering TDs, 4 resulted in FGs, and our defense held on the other 13 INTs. Ironically 20 INTs came on short throws, as opposed to 10 on deep throws (of which 6 were very late in the half or the game). It looks like 21 of the 30 happened on the Tampa Bay side of the field, which obviously ends up being a real bummer for the defense.

    What seems really strange is that Jameis threw 6 of his 7 Pick-6s at RayJay, but they occurred sporadically throughout the games. Of his 7 Pick-6s, only 1 Pick-6 occurred in the 1st quarter (against the Texans), 1 Pick-6 in the 2nd quarter (against the Colts), 1 Pick-6 in the 3rd quarter (against the 49ers), 3 Pick-6s in the 4th quarter & the 1 Pick-6 in OT (against the Falcons). Just as interesting, all of his Pick-6s were to different receivers. No common threads it seems. Bizarre.

  54. Ed Says:

    Kansas City, Buffalo and Nashville are all small market teams that changed quarterbacks in the past season or two, both in the playoffs.

  55. Robert Says:

    I would absolutely LOVE if they traded to a division rival.

    that’s between 12-18 guaranteed turnovers for us next year. heck that could take us to the playoffs!

  56. stpetebucsfan Says:


    Both of your posts are spot on. Tennessee made the playoffs after dumping their #1 pick at QB and succeeded with a “retread”. Denver didn’t make the playoffs but like us finished with a strong run after putting in their ROOKIE QB. There is more than one way to fix the QB problem.

    And you were kind when you pointed out that JW seems to feel the pressure…feel the pressure is such a great euphemism.

    Why don’t we just come out and say it…JW is a CHOKER!

    When a journeyman backup has to be replaced in the off season because your starter’s fee fees are just too fragile, that should have been a MAJOR warning signal. JW folded like a tent in the hurricane last year. Cincinnati was incredible!

    Someone pointed out that I mentioned the defense played well the second half and yeah we were 5-3 the second half so doesn’t that mean JW figured it out…NO…NO…NO…we could have easily…VERY EASILY been 7-1 and in the playoffs.

    Yes Gay missed four kicks…a real choke…But JW had the ball in sudden death and took away any chance of winning. A great QB would have been money.

    So when “money” Russell Wilson made us pay for losing the coin toss so many here said JW was ballin out and if we win that toss we win that game. Really?

  57. Alanbucsfan Says:

    Even in the famous 2016 5 game winning streak season, with playoffs on the line, Jameis threw 4th quarter interceptions in games vs Cowboys and Saints-

    this is not a new trend

  58. Defense Rules Says:

    Ed … You’re right about those 3 teams doing better after changing QBs, BUT … all 3 have very good defenses & their ‘new’ QBs are very solid. Buffalo has the #2 defense, a strong running game (over 2000 yards) and their new QB (Josh Allen) did a good job of protecting the ball (only 9 INTs). Even though his completion % was only 59%, he did throw 20 TDs.

    Chiefs had the #7 defense & have Patrick Mahomes (30 TDs against 5 INTs) … again, another QB good at protecting the ball.

    Titans the #12 defense and their QB now (Ryan Tannehill) is very underrated IMO. Titans strong running game (over 2200 yards) certainly helped, but Tannehill threw 22 TDs in only 10 games (70% completion rate) and protected the ball very well (only 6 INTs). Now that he’s a UFA, wouldn’t mind seeing the Bucs make a run at him. I think he’d be a pretty decent fit here.

  59. BigMacAttack Says:

    Jameis 5000 yards and 30 picks. 30 interceptions is worth probably 50yard drive each. There’s 1500 yards. 7 were pick 6’s which at 50 yards again is worth 350 yards. The Bucs had a lousy run game so there’s another 50 yards per game they could have ran the ball. So there’s 800 yards. Now Jameis’ has about 2500 serviceable yards. Those are pretty pedestrian numbers for any QB. I’m only saying those interceptions and being one dimensional really discount those 5000 yards. His attitude also discounts how big of a problem those picks are. He needs to go and it doesn’t cost a dime to let him walk. If some sucker signs him and you play that team, you’re guaranteed at least 2-3 picks from him. The Bucs probably would have finished 11-5 or better if Winston only threw 10-12 picks. He needs to go.

  60. WestChap Says:

    Maybe he’s got something against the home field? And why wouldn’t he… we have over 100 turnover things against him!

  61. Davenport Buc Says:

    He does what he does … never gonna win with this guy

  62. SteelStudBuc Says:

    Re sign him and he’ll throw 40 touchdowns, 40 interceptions, 6000 yards, 6-10 record, 30 million dollars

  63. SteelStudBuc Says:

    Go on youtube and type Jameis Winston 30 for 30
    ThatsGoodSports channel by Brandon Perna! Absolutely humiliating!!!!

  64. SteelStudBuc Says:

    Need to end this mofo back to welfareville Alabama

  65. HeavyE Says:

    He’s are QB! Don’t like it switch to another team, You guys act like it’s your team! Lol…..there’s nothing you can do about it, so stop F—cking crying all the time! Go BUCS!!!!!!

  66. SteveK Says:


    5 years pro

    1st overall pick

    7 pick 6’s in 2019- nfl record

    34 TDs in 2019: 33 pass 1 rush

    46 times sacked

    12 fumbles

    5 lost fumbles

    30 interceptions

    34:35 TD:Turnover Ratio in 2019

    5,100 yards passing in 2019- most in the league

    4.8% INT rate

    2.3% NFL average INT rate

    600+ passing attempts

    7-9 record

    19 INTs in RayJay

    28-42 record as a starter

    $30 million per season price tag.


    Let Jameis test the market and pay the $30 million towards: Shaq, Suh and JPP!

  67. SteveK Says:

    Jameis’ Statistics:

    5 years pro

    1st overall pick

    7 pick 6’s in 2019- nfl record

    34 TDs in 2019: 33 pass 1 rush

    46 times sacked

    12 fumbles

    5 lost fumbles

    30 interceptions

    34:35 TD:Turnover Ratio in 2019

    5,100 yards passing in 2019- most in the league

    4.8% INT rate

    2.3% NFL average INT rate

    600+ passing attempts

    7-9 record

    19 INTs in RayJay

    28-42 record as a starter

    $30 million per season price tag.


    Let Jameis test the market and pay the $30 million towards: Shaq, Suh and JPP!

  68. CalBucsFan Says:

    Interesting stats there Joe that seem to point in the same direction as I’ve been analyzing the last few days too.

    I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve seen a player on offense or defense who’s tried to make a quick cut or turn, only to have his feet slip out from under him as a chunk of grass kicks up in the air at RJ Stadium. Granted, it can happen to both teams, but that still made me curious enough to look at Jameis’ BSPN 2019 split stats on grass vs. turf to see if there’s anything noticeably different, and found this:

    Grass: QB Rating = 76.5 TDs=22 INT=27 (0.8 TD to 1 INT ratio)
    Turf: QB Rating = 111.1 TDs=11 INT=3 (3.7 TD to 1 INT ratio)

    Is it possible poor field conditions are contributing somehow to pass accuracy issues? And if so, then how about RBs cutting and lineman blocking? It only takes a split-second to create gaps between players and a ball in flight.

    So just how many games are played in RJ, whether high school, college, pros (incl. all sports or events) during the NFL season? Does the grass get replaced at any time during the season, or is it only patched after each event?

    I’m not suggesting this is the only reason for JWs difficulties at home, but…… a 3.7 to 1 TD ratio on the road and only O.8 to 1 at home? Come on, what’s up with that?

  69. CalBucsFan Says:

    …and, would it help if outdoor turf were installed instead of grass?

  70. SteveK Says:

    Turf implies domed field.

    Grass surface usually means pushing outside.

    Jameis plays home games outside.

    Good stats. And concerning.

  71. Jmarkbuc Says:


    Now it’s the turf??? Geez the apologists just won’t give it a rest….

  72. Losing hope Says:

    Joe is pathetic. Dude wipe your mouth and except it. He is s defenses best friend

  73. Brandon Says:

    And five in our “home” game in England. That’s 24 in 8nhome games. That’s crazy. And even more importantly, that’s SIX in EIGHT away games… which means to me that the problem is very fixable. Especially when he gets re-signed and all of his detractors boo him non-stop.

  74. Brandon Says:

    I’VE FIGURED IT OUT! This is it. I solved the mystery.

    Grass: QB Rating = 76.5 TDs=22 INT=27 (0.8 TD to 1 INT ratio)
    Turf: QB Rating = 111.1 TDs=11 INT=3 (3.7 TD to 1 INT ratio)

    Jameis suffers from allergies. Get the man some Benadryl and watch him BALL!

  75. Brandon Says:

    SteveK Says:
    January 2nd, 2020 at 9:31 pm
    Turf implies domed field


    I’d bet my lunch that far less than half the teams that play on turf play in a dome. Please try again.

  76. SteveK Says:


    Name one bro team that plays outside and on turf?

    Turf in the nfl, to my knowledge is for the domed fields.

  77. SteveK Says:


  78. SteveK Says:

    Look like 12 teams play on artificial turf. 6 have open field and 6 have domes/retractable opening.

    Regardless. Why so many int’s on home games?

  79. satchseven Says:

    Bucs win 10 games next year with an accurate vet that completes 70% and throws less than 10 ints. ok where you getting him from

  80. Dapostman Says:

    Maybe it’s those ugly red and brown uniforms blending in with all the red around the stadium. Throw in vision disparity and maybe just maybe. Actually I would like to see the Bucs in all white at home every game. I mean it’s Florida and white reflects the sun. Dark colors don’t. Save those ketchup reds for night games at Ray Jay.

  81. D1 Says:


    Has anyone compared attempts? I’d be more attempts at home.
    Another, home opponents defense vs away.

    Just saying these may or may not have an eff3ct

  82. Dapostman Says:

    Winston threw 16 picks in 6 games while wearing red/brown.

    Winston threw 7 picks in 8 games while wearing all white.

    Winston threw 7 picks in 2 games while wearing color rush red.

    23 picks in 8 games wearing red.
    7 picks in 8 games wearing white.

    I hope the Buc brass are looking at these numbers when they make their uniform decisions for 2020.

  83. SteveK Says:

    Regardless, the amazing debacle that is our QB can’t be defined.

  84. Hodad Says:

    Well this is why they hired the QB whisper. Not just to try and fix Jameis, but to see if he is fixable. Licht should be sitting on his hands with his mouth shut when in the room with Arains, and the Glazers. I’m sure whatever BA says, goes. Unless the Glazers just say no. Remember, BA didn’t draft Jameis he inherited him. I’m glad he’s not tied to him that way, he’ll give an unbiased opinion you’d hope. If Mariota turned out to be the best QB in the 2015 draft, Licht would’ve been fired already. Licht’s old right hand man running Tenn moved on, and made the playoffs with Tannyhill. I can see us moving on from Jameis.