The Streak Ends
December 2nd, 2019
Streak snapped.
Lost in the win yesterday was a downer. A strong offensive streak came to an end.
Prior to the game, the Bucs offense was humming and was one of the most consistent offenses in the NFL. But a lousy defense (with a very good front-four) brought that streak to a halt yesterday, despite the Bucs beating the Jags for their third win in four games.
And that was the 300-yard streak of Mr. Entertainment, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston. Grant Gordon of NFL.com has the details.
Jameis Winston’s reign as the king of the ugly 300-yard game came to an end. Winston had thrown six straight 300-yard-plus games coming in, but finished shy of that mark with 268 yards and most importantly a win. Winston had his 25th giveaway (he lost a fumble) and made some adventurous throws as usual. But for the most part played well enough for the Bucs to win. Even in defeat, the Bucs, whether it be Winston or 1,000-yard receivers Mike Evans and Chris Godwin (who combined for eight catches for 103 yards) have put up gaudy numbers. Instead on this Sunday, the Bucs won with defense and conservative offensive numbers. Perhaps it’s just an aberration during Bruce Arians’ first season at the helm or perhaps it’s a sign of changes to come.
Of course, Joe will take a win over entertainment and drama. Frankly, the offense was not good yesterday and this should be alarming. Jacksonville’s defense stinks (except its defensive line which is very good). Thank goodness the Bucs’ defense played lights out yesterday.
Joe has been unimpressed with the run game all season, despite the Bucs weekly trying brainwash people that the run game is feared within NFL circles.
When you go to the run game almost exclusively against a sorry run defense like the Jags and you can’t move the ball, if that isn’t evidence the Bucs have a lousy rushing attack, then what would be?
December 2nd, 2019 at 5:06 pm
I’ve hated “Americas Quarterback” but Mr Entertainment is something I can get behind. Dude entertains me every week. I’m either screaming in agony or screaming in joy. No in between with this guy.
December 2nd, 2019 at 5:19 pm
I agree Mr Entertainment fits him well. Never a dull moment with him.
December 2nd, 2019 at 5:21 pm
Yep. We are gonna need to upgrade the running game. Hoping the Buc see an OL the like in the draft. That’ll be a decent start.
Then we need a RB. I tryed to buy into the RoJo hype. But it hasn’t panned out and isn’t working. He had an edge yesterday….The announcers voice even perked up when he saw it…And it went for two yards. You gotta make that play man.
Now he’s missing blocks and getting benched? This is not working.
Joe I hear David Johnson could become available?
December 2nd, 2019 at 5:24 pm
Conclusion…don’t need a $25,000,000.00 / year QB
December 2nd, 2019 at 5:34 pm
It was fun watching our D kick arse, keep it going Bucs..
December 2nd, 2019 at 5:36 pm
They dialed the offense back in the second half, that explains the lack of a 300+ yd pass attack. The problem is that it nearly bit them again. Sean Payton never dia!s back the Saints offense not matter now far ahead they are in a game. Neither should we.
December 2nd, 2019 at 5:36 pm
Mr. Entertainment works for me also…
WGAS about Jameis’ streak……
December 2nd, 2019 at 5:41 pm
I think saying the offense was very good yesterday is factually incorrect.
They were moving up and down the field scoring points in the 1st half.
Now in the 2nd half, they weren’t good, but that falls at the feet of Byron Leftwich. When you have a sub-bar offensive line that has struggled to run block for 3 – years straight, you have to be a little more creative than running Peyton Barber up the gut on every single drive and 1st down.
It appears Leftwich still hasn’t learned from the Giants game. He was lucky. We won’t have that same kind of luck against a better team.
Oh, and when he finally did decide to take a risk, it came in the form of going for it on 4th and 4 from mid field when we were already up by 3 scores… WTF Leftwich? Just terrible decision making in the 2nd half.
How about a frickin screen pass or play action for 1st down for a change???
December 2nd, 2019 at 5:42 pm
^ wow, talk about typos galore lol
… saying the offense was *NOT* very good …
… or play action *ON* 1st down for a change …
December 2nd, 2019 at 5:47 pm
We’ll win more when he’s throwing less…..but teams are going to continue to dare him to throw until he consistently proves its a failed strategy. He beat back to back bottom basement teams…..this game the defense gave us a TD along with multiple TOs. Indianapolis will be a good test of if we are making strides as a team and at QB.
December 2nd, 2019 at 5:52 pm
Thanks Joe 👍
It is what it is and the goal is to win Superbowls and I Think Tampa has clearly forgotten that !! Clearly forgotten ! but the D is much better to watch lately 👍👍
Btw why isn’t Nassib and Barret with Paul kicked inside used a lil more on 3 rd and long and forevers !!
December 2nd, 2019 at 5:52 pm
Unbelievable…..I’m pretty sure the HC makes the call to go for it on 4th down. Can’t pin that decision on Leftwitch.
December 2nd, 2019 at 5:55 pm
Sign Jameis to a 1 year deal with 10mil base guaranteed. Then 1M for each win, 5 Mil for playoff appearance, and another 5 Mil for Super Bowl.
If we go 10-6 and make the playoffs, that’s 25Mil right there for him.
If we go 4-12, he makes 14 Mil.
Not that he would go for it but if he wanted to bet on himself and his team it could work out nice for him.
December 2nd, 2019 at 5:58 pm
JimmyJack you might be right.
Either way, it was a very dumb decision. And I’m all for the no risk it no biscuit stuff, but that was just a bad call given the game situation.
Get more creative on 1st and 2nd down instead of running Barber into a pile of 13 guys and you’ll convert more 1st downs and keep moving the chains / eating up clock. Plays like a screen pass, or even play action on 1st down after running so many times, etc., are high percentage plays that would keep the defense on it’s heels.
December 2nd, 2019 at 5:59 pm
Perriman and OJ stepped up huge for us.
December 2nd, 2019 at 6:20 pm
I could go either way on the fourth down call.
We did seem to get some 1st downs in the third and took the game into the fourth still up by 3 scores. We were still mixing in some throws at that point. Think I even remember some screens and stuff like that.
Kinda ses like nitpicking to me in a game that our defense was dominating all day long.
11points given up is all I really need to know.
December 2nd, 2019 at 6:23 pm
Hopefully, his streak of being on the team ends in a few weeks… (Wishful thinking I know, since at the very least, the tag is in the bag).
December 2nd, 2019 at 6:25 pm
Still averages more than 300 yards per game. He’s on pace to reach 5,000 yards,
December 2nd, 2019 at 6:27 pm
And we really had one possession in the fourth that mattered. Up the gut on first down for a nice gain. Then again on second for no gain.
Setup 3rd & 4 and we couldn’t pick up the blitz and got sacked.
Don’t really see a playcalling problem there. We setup a 3rd and 4 which is a favorable down and distance. Running on 1st & 2nd wasn’t the issue. Not picking up the blitz was the bigger problem I say.
By the time we got the ball back again the game was basically over
December 2nd, 2019 at 6:29 pm
Can offer any contract some believe but a contract has to be signed for it to be valid. Some on this site believe Winston will have no other offers. Maybe some are just too young to remember the days of scoring 18 points was a offensive explosion for our Bucs
December 2nd, 2019 at 6:46 pm
TexBuc…..And last year it was sign McCoy for 4M because that what they said he was worth…Hahaha
December 2nd, 2019 at 6:52 pm
Run game was awful yesterday sans one TD run and the JW scrambles
D carried us for sure, the second half O was horrible and luckily the D is coming around, albeit against back to back poor teams
That goal line play calling after the SMB pick was just pathetic – if not for them being more pathetic…
December 2nd, 2019 at 6:58 pm
JimmyJack
forgot about that from last year, but I do remember many wanted the Bucs to draft Dwayne Haskins.
December 2nd, 2019 at 7:03 pm
There are a lot of dumb people counting Winston’s money. Why would he sign a 1 yr deal for 10 million, he’s making 20 mil this year. Why are so many concerned with his business? Quarterbacks get paid ala mike glennon to the bears. That dude was beloved for some reason apparently people around prefer checkdown offenses or those 3 game spurts stop gaps like fitztragic provide.
December 2nd, 2019 at 7:14 pm
The only streak ending I care about with Jameis is interceptions- and he ended it!
December 2nd, 2019 at 7:35 pm
The best case scenario is signing Jameis to a 4 year deal. This does two very important things. 1.) It gives us clarity on the salary cap to make decisions on others (Shaq, Suh, Nassib, Godwin, Cappa to name a few). 2.) It finally stops all the debates, articles, conjecture, rumors, questions about the leader of this team.
It puts it to bed, if you franchise him we will be sitting here next year having the same discussion regardless of how well we do. We could win the division and some would still want him gone, so get a 4 year deal done with incentives and be done with it shutting down all of this nonsense down.
December 2nd, 2019 at 7:43 pm
This fan base if it wasn’t for being ridiculous…is the extreme definition of ENTERTAINING.
If the defense play well and the offense provide the 21 scores asked for, the off field no talent coaches/players OVER ANALIZE wins, loses…EVERYTHING…
Just play players, let the coaches coach, the Gm manage and the owners work the finances. IGNORE the NOISE in the BACKGROUND!
GO BUCS!
December 2nd, 2019 at 7:45 pm
Waow NDOG you really went for it my guy. You’ve truly outdone yourself this time.
What is it that you smoke? Blue Meth straight from Hizenberg??
You are really hallucinating bro! What about the last 5 years of inconsistency regression followed by progression
How much and what kind of drugs do you need to do for this to actually be your “solution”????
All the money that we need to make an investment in a young defense mixed with JPP BARRETT VEA will need to get resigned eventually
4 YR DEAL????? Oh my gosh man this was good for a laugh.
Biggest IDIOT on here. You won the trophy
December 2nd, 2019 at 7:48 pm
Oh just that he is on pace to throw for the 2nd most yards IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME, in his first 5 years in the NFL. Yeah I’ll take that.
December 2nd, 2019 at 7:54 pm
There’s one line in the article Joe that everyone should ponder … “Instead on this Sunday, the Bucs won with defense and conservative offensive numbers.”
The Saints learned that 4 years ago and changed their approach to the game. In 2014, 2015 & 2016 the Saints ended EACH season with the same 7-9 record. What was amazing during that span is that Drew Brees for all practical purposes was Jameis Winston (without the turnovers). His average passing yards per game each of those years …
o 2014: 298 YPG (TOTAL YPG – 411) … Record 7-9
o 2015: 311 YPG (TOTAL YPG – 404) … Record 7-9
o 2016: 317 YPG (Total YPG – 426) … Record 7-9
Each year the Saints had the #1 or #2 team getting the most total yards & passing yards … and yet they finished 7-9 each year. Average defensive rank? #30 . Average offensive rank for POINTS SCORED? #6 .
Then the Saints changed their approach starting in 2017. Drafted Alvin Kamara. Sean Payton started emphasizing the run game, the shorter passing game AND defense a lot more. Saints did a remarkable turnaround IMO and won the division crown in 2017 & 2018, plus it looks like they’ve got it this year too. Look at what happened though to Drew Brees passing numbers:
o 2017: 262 YPG (Total average YPG – 391) … Record 11-5
o 2018: 253 YPG (Total average YPG – 379) … Record 13-3
o 2019: 254 YPG (Total average YPG – 361) … Record 10-2 thus far
The key looks to be better BALANCE between the running game & the passing game for the Saints. Brees got significantly less passing yardage per game (about 50 YPG FEWER) while the running game produced about 15 YPG more on average. Saints dropped about 35 YPG in the TOTAL numbers, BUT … their record improved dramatically.
Worth mentioning obviously that they also UPGRADED their defense considerably, and over this last 3-year span their average ranking has been #12 in terms of POINTS ALLOWED. Their offense is still a powerhouse (ranking #9 this year), but the TEAM is more BALANCED (their defense ranks #12 right now).
Something the Bucs might want to consider if they expect to unseat the Saints.
December 2nd, 2019 at 8:01 pm
Jameis had 212 passing yards and the Bucs were up 25-0 at half-time.
JW could have had 400+ yards if the Jags put up a fight, but most Bucs fans would rather just chill in the 2nd half knowing their team is going to win.
December 2nd, 2019 at 8:05 pm
Good point Defense also something else to consider. The only team to beat us desively this year was the Saints twice. They did not do that by throwing the ball all over the yard instead they contained us by keeping us off the field with a dominant TOP. That is how you win in this league, the Patriots always do that, the 49ers and Ravens are doing that this year and when the Giants won they were doing the same thing. But of course when the time comes you must have a QB that can make THAT throw with no fear
December 2nd, 2019 at 8:17 pm
DR-
Good post,
Bucs need OLine Tackle(s) and OLine depth , re-sign ALL of D starters and Jameis keep playing smart football.
Another year with same coaching staff .
Jameis is coming back- but I’d do a 1 year Franchise tag and if he plays winning football, then give him the long term.
NDog-
If you have a good D, you just need smart football play on Offense (Buffalo Bills)
The money will be there for Jameis if he plays well, but he has to show he can be consistent (not yards, but decisions)
He has the talent – just stop the turnovers EVERY game. And yes he needs a better OLine.
December 2nd, 2019 at 8:32 pm
Kicking the can is not a good idea, commit then fix the holes. We need to stop with the debating, just get it done spread the money out that will help us retain the other key players going forward.
December 2nd, 2019 at 8:33 pm
It is simple when this defense plays at least average football we win, it’s as simple as that.
December 2nd, 2019 at 8:40 pm
Someone is giving Jamies 25-30 mill a year…. is it us? Question is regardless what we pay our QB can Licht put a competitive roster around him….. so FAR the answer is NO!!!
December 2nd, 2019 at 8:42 pm
I agree on that running game statement, Joe. It’s the stable of backs that kills us. None of them are versatile enough. That includes blocking whether or not you think that’s important. DC never really have to wonder too much what type of play is coming based on who is on the field. If RoJo is in there they expect run and aren’t afraid to send the extra guy because even if it’s a pass RoJo probably can’t pick up the pressure and Winston gets nailed.
I refuse to believe that the lack of production in the running game is the fault of the O-line. These backs are one dimensional and scare no one. Biggest bright spot is we have had some success running in the red zone.
December 2nd, 2019 at 9:13 pm
Better oline?
Marpet resigned multi year. Jensen signed multi year. Cappa drafted recently. D. Smith resigned multi year. Only spot is RT and that’s if Bruce doesn’t want him back which he might.
So where do you guys don’t see there’s no upgrade we are stuck with this oline.
December 2nd, 2019 at 9:50 pm
We gonna need Barry Sanders at 20 years old with Jim Brown spelling with this oline.
This issue alone is why the other teams defense plays pass aggressive against JW sans turnovers and JW is crowned the turnovers king in his own home.
We need better oline play and I’m tired of them getting away from criticism. It’s the 3rd highest paid group means they are talented right? Donovan Smith is a serial loafer. His body language is garbage like he gassed his first 3 plays. Dotson could be called for penalty on every play cuz he puts his guy in this awkward reverse choke hold. Cappa benched for Warford and he cant block big guys only linebackers.
Then we have only 2 weapons and that won’t work every week so good job for OJ and Perriman. We need a true 3. We need to draft the best oline and Suhs replacement and then a 3rd receiver
December 2nd, 2019 at 9:50 pm
I blame the wind!
December 2nd, 2019 at 9:53 pm
Lamarcus just a point of correction, Cappa was not benched he got hurt yesterday.
December 2nd, 2019 at 10:10 pm
It is simple when this defense plays at least average football we win, it’s as simple as that.
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Yep, it’s that simple.
JayMiss not throwing his usual 2 picks has nothing to with it.
December 2nd, 2019 at 10:29 pm
The defense won the game. Leftwhich didn’t put the ball in Jameis to win the game. Oline is ok. But for what is getting paid average at best. Licht needs to find a way to keep the dline and add youth. And on the secondary add some vet. I like barber but not a feature back. Rojo is either make it or brake it the next games. He might be holding a spot for a RB to be drafted. I would like swift in first round. Since we will be in middle of round.
December 2nd, 2019 at 10:31 pm
2 picks vs Atlanta, defense plays well, we win. What was your point again. Not forced to throw 50 times, no picks. Surprised, not really for those of us with a clue.
December 2nd, 2019 at 10:39 pm
Went to the Jags Game
Number 1 the Bucs Fans were very loud
Number 2 Evans is a Class Act coming over before and after the game to see fans
Number 3 Thank you Hudson for the towel and gloves my daughters have slept with them their first NFL game
LASTLY WINSTON IS CLASSLESS
STOPPED FOR TWO SECONDS TO WAVE AT FANS AFTER GAME
December 2nd, 2019 at 10:43 pm
Minnesota is getting worked over in Seattle with their $100 million QB and elite RB while we went toe to toe with them with just a passing attack and lost due to a coin flip yet some of you think Jameis won’t get paid if he hits the open market. OK
December 2nd, 2019 at 10:46 pm
In our 5 wins JayMiss has thrown 5 picks
In our 7 losses he’s thrown 15 picks
It ain’t rocket science genius.
December 2nd, 2019 at 10:46 pm
Minnesota worked over huh?
December 2nd, 2019 at 11:20 pm
Yeah their defense got a TD and the Great Russell Wilson has thrown two picks and they fumbled the ball away. If Jameis played the way Wilson has played tonight he would be getting killed.
December 2nd, 2019 at 11:22 pm
I would love to load up on offensivelinemen in the draft. We would really benefit from some competition in the trenches.
December 2nd, 2019 at 11:23 pm
Ok those 300+ yards given up to the Giants and Seahawks had nothing to do with the losses or the 4 blown late 3rd quarter/4th quarter leads.
Bottom line Doosh you are a IDIOT. Go away, you have no idea what you are talking about. Please leave as just reading your drivel makes us all dumber.
December 2nd, 2019 at 11:26 pm
Cousins 23 TD 4 picks
Wilson 26 TD 4 picks
JayMiss 22 TD 20 picks
Wow.
December 2nd, 2019 at 11:27 pm
Feel dumber now dipsh!t?
December 2nd, 2019 at 11:29 pm
Yes and both of those QB have GREAT running games so the entire offense isn’t totally on the QB. But see people that understand football get that you on the other hand wouldn’t know a football if it hit you in your CLUELESS face.
December 2nd, 2019 at 11:34 pm
Ali Marpet is starting to break down physically.
Jensen is playing through back pain.
Cappa is still just a backup swing O-lineman, and a good one at that.
We must trade back next year. And get a OG/C in the 2nd and a RT/RG in the second.
The 2nd round is the perfect round for guards, centers, and RT’s.
We need 2 2nd round picks next year.
Trade back in the 1st round, preferably 2 or 3 times.
Stack up on 2nd and 3rd round picks.
Draft an OG/C (Jensen is getting old, Cappa is not good enough, and Ali is starting to break down)
But the 1st round pick? A DT. For sure a DT.
December 2nd, 2019 at 11:36 pm
Falcon Cook is injured again NosBos! Or whoever the hell else took over the cause in his absence
December 2nd, 2019 at 11:39 pm
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December 3rd, 2019 at 12:25 am
Defense Rules Says:
December 2nd, 2019 at 7:54 pm
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Great points, Defense Rules. Your analysis was intriguing to say the least.
I think Arians is as “football smart” as Payton is in his own way. He might not do exactly what you have outlined but I think we can watch what unfurls during the off season closely. What Licht does as GM will be as a result of working close as “glove to hand” with Arians.
Another way of saying this to make sure what I’m saying clear is that they are on the same page and working together. One guy is not a puppet on a string for the other either. But I see BA as the main football mind guiding this team at present.
This is what I mean by “In BA we trust.”.
December 3rd, 2019 at 1:29 am
Who cares about your sponsor JOE. Not me!
December 3rd, 2019 at 3:50 am
The Bucs got up early and the rest was game script. If this had been a shootout, Bucs would’ve put up points.
December 3rd, 2019 at 6:17 am
Despite notions to the contrary, you still win in this league with a solid run-game and good defense. Our winning % DOUBLES when Jameis throws fewer than 35 times. Let that sink in for a moment.
Stats without wins are meaningless.
December 3rd, 2019 at 7:40 am
More meaningless stats for the loser QB.
December 3rd, 2019 at 10:39 am
JayMiss has 83 more pass attempts than Wilson
83 more attempts equals 16 more interceptions?
That equals a pick every 5 passes.
I guess that’s a good thing in Nuthugger land!