One For The Contract Column

November 24th, 2019

America’s Quarterback, James Winston, looked like a crazy-talented and confident starting quarterback today.

It sure helps when your defense doesn’t suck ass and you only get hit once.

Roller coaster Jameis is quite a wild ride.

He sucks. He’s great. He’s dumb. He’s smart. He routinely fights for every yard whether it’s wise or not. Jump pass to Dare Ogunbowale anyone? And Jameis is one heck of a scrambler and has been for two seasons.

On the day Jameis registered his 99th and 100th turnover of his young career, the most by a QB (by a mile) since 2015, Jameis also threw three touchdown passes, racked up another 300-yard game and ran for 38 yards while showing great resiliency within the game.

Yes, this is who Jameis is. So nothing today surprised Joe at all.

What would surprise a lot of fans is if Jameis can string together a fantastic finish to this season, with another four or five games like this one today against Atlanta.

As Joe wrote this morning, it’s the march to $100 million guaranteed. Can he get there?

112 Responses to “One For The Contract Column”

  1. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Said it before and I’ll say it again…….

    Jameis Winston is a REALLY good quarterback with a turnover problem.

  2. Frankinthe813 Says:

    Let’s not get excited..that’s the Falcons not the Patriots we played..

  3. bucnut2 Says:

    He sucked less than usual today. He’s a long term beer truck driver in Tallahassee

  4. JimmyJack Says:

    Great call on the scrambling Joe and I love that this coaching staff is letting him do that.

    In the end it’s like Ira says talking about wins.

    We won today and the QB was a huge part of it. Shakey start but am proud of my QB today!!!

  5. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    Jay Miss is who he is. A turnover machine. There are lots of starting QBs out there who lead their teams to victories and don’t turn it over constantly and make good decisions. The 5 year experiment with the #1 pick in the draft should be OVER! Let him hold a clipboard and don a ball cap somewhere else.

  6. Tom Edrington Says:

    Give Jameis the new contract, he will lead the Bucs to numerous 8-8 seasons!!!

  7. stpetebucsfan Says:

    NO! Everybody concentrates on JW’s int’s or his spectacular TD’s. Nobody seems to pay attention to all the passes in between.

    Exhibit A…the horrid throw to Perriman that should have been a TD.

    The first TD to Godwin was a RARE pass thrown in anticipation of the route and it actually had a tight spiral…rare for JW. Watch his passes. The two tips of the end of the ball are generally wobbling…hence his poor accuracy.

    If his price was reasonable I could see it…but he wasn’t worth 20 million this year and he won’t be next…and he’s going to get a raise!

    I’m ready for a new era QB…one that can run…not like Cam but smart like Wilson..Jackson..Watson et al.

    JW is not a bad runner for a guy slower than me..ok that was hyperbole but he’s dang slow of foot. I’ve never understood why we haven’t moved him out of the pocket more…let him pick his spots…we did that today and it worked with the exception of the one time JW went all MG8 quitting two yards from the first down.

    We could invest a boatload of money into the rest of this rapidly improving team.

  8. Tbbucs3 Says:


    Then why is everyone allowed to gush over the defensive Preformance today?

    If there’s anything I’m not gonna get excited about it’s this Bucs defense.

  9. JimmyJack Says:

    The second pick was atrocious. No defending that and it is the play that Winston must eliminate to get this team where it wants to be.

    Win lose or draw that play should not ever happen. Winston gives it up more then he should and that is plain fact. Don’t let that INT happen ever…….do that and nobody even questions if you should be our future.

  10. FanO’Bucs Says:

    Jameis is a beast.


  11. Coburn Says:

    I think our standards have dropped too low. He played decent but also epitomises who he is after throwing two early picks and then playing well mostly mixed with some 3 and outs. Just inconsistent. That td by Godwin was all him, not Jameis. I think a 300 yard game in today’s football is more above average than exceptional but I could be wrong. Just seems like it’s not that uncommon

  12. Jonathan Limpchimpi Says:

    My vote per Joe’s poll is to franchise Winston. I’ve seen a lot of lousy QB play around the league today. Burrow won’t be available…wouldn’t be mad with Hurts in the 2nd as Licht Weight 2nd rounders are typically throwaways. Good win today…

  13. Easy Says:

    Didn’t help his case for a contract extension today at all IMO. Gotta play mistake free football and he just can’t do it.

  14. ocala Says:

    Tbbucs3 Says:
    November 24th, 2019 at 5:25 pm
    Said it before and I’ll say it again…….
    Jameis Winston is a REALLY good quarterback with a turnover problem.


    Completely agree. Most fans on here say extreme things, but Tbbucs3 gets it.

  15. Coburn Says:

    Was definitely a team win today. Defense played pretty well. Even if it was a terrible team. Goos to get the win against a div rival but part of me kinda does want Winston to crash and burn to make sure he’s replaced. Hey it would be great if somehow he ended up being the saviour but at this point putting together a few good games is nothing but fools gold thay might make some people on staff think he can still somshow turn it around after all these years.

  16. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Wow…he made the plays he was supposed to, threw a pair of boneheads, the win was certainly nice but Jameis is far from a consistent QB and far from being given a long term deal…still has accuracy issues even on completions…not much has changed

  17. H8JWLveBucs Says:

    I agree^we just have low standards, Bucs aint beatn anybody good we have a fluke here and there and then reality comes back. Winston has reached his ceiling he aint getting any better

  18. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I think we saw today what can happen when we have a defense that plays well……it can make up for a couple of QB mistakes…..that is exactly what happened.
    Our D dropped 5……..I’ll spell it out….>FIVE interceptions…..just imagine the game if we made two of them.

  19. JP_09 Says:

    Minus the 20 INTs Winston has had a good year….

    TBbucs3 said it perfectly, Winston is a good QB with a turnover problem. This is why he’s not worth 30 million/yr right now. Offer him a 30 million 2 year deal that could go up to 50 mil with incentives for Having under 15 picks, 10 picks and playoffs

    Either way you still need to bring in a QB via the draft or free agency.

    Way to stay in the game though after the two ints, like most I was waiting for the snowball

  20. H8JWLveBucs Says:

    Any QB will look good and eat your defence alive if u give him good protection but that’s not the case in the NFL. A elite QB makes plays when he has nothing down field. JW will eat u alive when u give him time but will sink the ship when the pressure is on.

  21. Coburn Says:

    Tbbf the problem is it only works against other bad teams… Against better playoff calibre teams you need to have all phase working well. No just good defense but being careful with thr ball too.. yu can squeak by against bad teams with mis takes and we will see how defense plays going forward… easy to look good in all phases and overcome mis takes against a team like falcons

  22. Hamsandwichtime Says:

    He is what he is, but JAMEIS won today… give him that D and Running game and sign him. He’s still 25 . @alvin thinks you can put any QB in there and get same results.. wrong! Jameis has to score 30+ every game to have a chance, your average qb will check down and manage the game along with maybe 14 points. Like I’ve said work on D and RB and we will win plenty of games.

  23. H8JWLveBucs Says:


  24. Wesley Says:

    Yeah against a 3-7 team with nothing to play for. This game doesn’t change anything.

  25. H8JWLveBucs Says:


  26. bucnut2 Says:

    Sooo. let’s be real. Winston sucks and the only people who don’t know that live in Tampa. Joe- give it up, he’s HORIBBLE

  27. Jim Says:

    Even though the Falcons looked miserable, it was a good win (“good win”…Godwin, get it? Never mind.). Nearly all elements of the team were playing well, some very well indeed…

  28. Rick Says:

    He is who he is. Now that that is established, we now know it’s not good enough to reach the playoffs. Right?

  29. Dan Says:

    Winston has 20 picks and is a terrible quarterback. Can’t win more than a few games a year when you are loosing the turnover battle year after year. Can’t beat that stat

  30. 1sparkybuc Says:

    Put a decent OL in front of Jameis and he WILL get better. Bret Favre holds league records for interceptions. He also played in two SBs, winning one. Solidify the team around him, and the Bucs can win with Jameis. We have great players on this team right now that can’t wait for a rookie QB to get up to speed. Jameis is our best option.

  31. Bculaw Says:

    It’s not easy to find QBs that can get you 4900+ yards and 32 TDs through the air. We have one and many can’t wait to run him out of town. His TOs are an issue, bit don’t ditch him unless you are sure you can replace him.

    Spend a second or a 3rd on competition if you feel he’s at his ceiling, but I’m on the side of building depth on the lines and seeing what we can do with a complimentary football team.

  32. Craig Says:

    The problem is that every game Jameis plays in is a gamble. You never know what he will be until it is over.

    He got really lucky that the dirty bird defense looked more like the Bucs defense did until today. I saw six other balls, including the 71yard Godwin TD that would have been turnovers if the defense was on its toes.

    You still should look at his abysmal win/loss record before anointing him as the 100 million dollar man.

  33. REDZONE BA Fan Says:

    Bucs fans have short memories….outside of Gruden Era, Bucs averaged a snoozer-fest of 10-17 pts per game. Sometimes with good D and mostly with Bad D’s to pair, resulting in our history of losing seasons and no playoffs.

    Seems like he cannot escape the fact that he is not at FSU playing in weak ACC, and cannot overcome turnovers to get to 12 wins. BA has to continue to drill “Dirt It” or throw out of bounds, in his head vs heroic plays. I will not count the bad luck play (OJ), because no matter what, he has 20 TO’s and there are still 5 games, meaning he might eclipse Peyton Manning for the record turnovers…. But STILL – our O does put points on the board, and it is not sound to think just any rookie QB can come in and use ME13 and Godwin with the same results. JMHO….

    Playoffs are a pipe dream for this year – but expect the Bucs team to continue upward performance trend with a maturing D. And Congrats to the Oline, for awesome protection today!

  34. Mike Johnson Says:

    Jameis is always going to turn the ball over a couple times a game. Damn near always. Sometimes even more. We can win with Jameis. Only problem is..We will have to have an Outstanding defense if we want to make the playoffs or better. Jameis is a gambler. He wins and loses. But when he loses? He really stinks it up. He threw a couple of bullets on a rope today. And the receivers made great catches.

  35. DB55 Says:

    Let JW walk there’s a lot of real franchises who need a great qb.

    Looks to me like JW will be #1 QB with #2 and #3 WRs at nfl leaders dot com

    Pitt, chargers, oak maybe NE. All have def who don’t give up 32ppg.

    Bucs can go ahead and draft and start the kid from Oregon 🤣 AZ St is a powerhouse nothing like what he’ll see in the nfcs.

  36. Ndog Says:

    So will the people on here that clearly don’t want Jameis around at least admit about this year that when we have run the ball and played decent defense we have won?

  37. Bucs Fan Since ‘76 Says:

    We have five games left before a decision has to be made on Jameis. What I saw from him today was a guy who can win games with a decent defensive effort. If our secondary flashed what they can be today, as opposed to a fluke, Jameis May be our guy. I hope so. I ain’t getting any younger.

  38. DB55 Says:

    Dak has been a media darling all year but as soon as he gets popped in the mouth he’s pure garbage. 84 yards 50qbr. Funny what pressure and hits will do to a qb, ANY QB, but wtfdik.

    JW must be so thankful for the Bucs bc if he can put up numbers like he has this season just imagine what he’ll do on a real franchise. He might just own the nfl records like he owns the Bucs record board.


  39. DooshLaRue Says:

    Jamies still sucks.
    Don’t be fooled.

  40. bojim Says:

    Frankinthe813 Says:
    November 24th,
    at 5:30 pm

    Let’s not get excited..that’s the Falcons not the Patriots we played..

    Yea. Were not allowed to be happy.

  41. JimmyJack Says:

    DB55 is a closet jets fans……Please disreguard any filth uttered from his dirty mouth like we all do with the rest of his worthless kind.

  42. SB Says:

    It sure helps when your defense doesn’t suck ass and you only get hit once.


    Silly Joe, you really need to stop it. D played Lights OUT from the beginning. JW threw TWO dumb INTs again.
    The D bailed him (us) out. If our D was as bad as you DAILY claim it is we would have lost this game as well. Didn’t JW have TEN T.O.s in only two games a few weeks ago. Just stop with the narrative. We already know who JW is.

  43. Greg Says:

    First pass of the game was an interception. Two in the first quarter. The touchdown to Godwin should have been an interception but Winston’s receivers bail him out. Wins and losses don’t change Winstons accuracy problem or decision making.

  44. Figures Says:

    Dude has a good game against a bad 3-7 football team and you homers act like they just beat the defending champs.

    My god. How low the bar is around here. You people are pathetic.

    Anytime he plays against a good defense he craps the bed.

    When he plays like that against a good team or a playoff team then you can get all giddy but a 3-7 team?

    Lmao hahahahahahhaaa how pathetic

  45. runnerdoc Says:

    The Decision has been made on Jameis. If you’re a h8er, you’ll continue to suffer.

    The Bucs have a 4900 yd, 32 TD QB putting up 28 ppg and a defense looking like it has a chance to grow up.

    The team is playing hard for this staff.

    They’re not going to blow it up.

  46. Boltsfan17 Says:

    Nothing I saw today changed my mind. He’s still not the answer.

    Move on!

  47. Stevebobucsfan Says:

    Is Jameis and Trump related. They both do some damn good things then screw it all up with stupid and dumb decisions. Do we franchise Jameis or show him the door

  48. SB Says:

    BTW 10 T.O.s is TEN extra possessions the Defense had to TAKE because of JW’s T.O.s
    Put extra work on your D (for no good reason) and your D gives up more points.
    Simple math. “Simple as that”

  49. REDZONE BA Fan Says:

    Here is a tip to Byron – Don’t have the first pass of game to ME13…..D’s expect it, double teaming ME13, and swarming……result – INTs. We do have Godwin, Brate, etc….

  50. DB55 Says:

    LET HIM WALK!!!!

  51. Figures Says:

    A Qb isn’t worth anywhere Near 30 million a year when you have no idea which QB will show up week to week.

    Blame whoever you want but a bad defense or whatever else is no reason a “franchise” QB has to crap the bed with 4 and 5 interception games a few times a season.

    How can a team invest their future in a QB when no one knows which QB will show up on any given week?


    Pay Winston that much money don’t expect to keep both Evans and Godwin and a top tier running back.

  52. Kobe Faker Says:

    “Give Jaboo a clean pocket, and with his downfield anticipation throws

    He can destroy any defense like no other QB in the NFL

    Jaboos game breaks down when the offensive line deteriorates and defenders are all over him

    He starts playing hero ball and the fumbles and ints comes

    Kobe still believes a Andy reid offense where he gets the ball out quick ala west coast offense is what JW needs to be in

    frustrating and bad luck, JW is coming into the NFL with Koetters and Leftovers scheme and playcalling”

    Kobe Faker

  53. Discobeef Says:

    If the Bucs franchise Jameis instead of Shaq they deserve another 10 years of losing.

  54. JimmyJack Says:

    Figures…..Walk the plank. And we better see nothing but the back of your head henceforth.

    Your words resemble nothing except for a traitor to our ship.

    Now to the rest……hop on the bandwagon while the gettins good!!!! We may of just hit our turning point this week and the rest of this ride shapin ip to be a lot of fun!!!!!

    GO BUCS!

  55. Jawo45 Says:

    As much as I enjoy beating the dirty birds, they’re an even worse team than we are. That’s not enough to bring back the train wreck of a QB. We still don’t have a signature win. Only the dregs make us look good. Enough with the misplaced excitement for Winston. A 25- 40 record with 100 turnovers in five seasons would be the end of anyone else. Time to cut the driftwood.

  56. DooshLaRue Says:

    JayMiss still sucks.
    Don’t be fooled.

  57. NYbucsfan Says:

    3 TD and 2 INT, Good call Lee!!! He is not consistent enough get over it.

  58. ElBajito43 Says:

    I am so sick of this BS Winston Worship is what I call it!
    This guy plays good 5-6 games a year against the Sh!t teams. WTF
    and to say honestly


    so when “MICROWAVE” WINSTON cools off just don’t let me read any of you MFs on here joining in in the complaints department

    Stay in THE IDIOT DEPARTMENT thinking the small hands wobble throwing, WINNIE-POOH is a Franchise QB!

    The guy should have had 1 more INT today and one less TD

    In the game vs. Bridgewater he threw 2 balls right at defenders chest who dropped them.

    Literally should be 25 INTERCEPTIONS this year but that’s ok. I am confident Loser ATM GROPER will lead the league in giveaways.

  59. REDZONE BA Fan Says:

    Article from unbiased writer. Seems right on the money, regarding Jameis.

  60. Figures Says:

    The back of my head the way I see the back of your wife’s head most of the time?

    Nothing I said wasn’t true you fu#king c@ock rider.

  61. John.L Says:

    Wow the Qb played good,when it doesn’t count,the SEASON IS OVER!!!

  62. Figures Says:

    Hop on the bandwagon lol after beating a 3-7 team?

    How fing pathetic.

  63. BucsBandit Says:

    When someone with incredible NFL wisdom and experience like Jimmy Johnson says it’s time to move on from Winston, it’s definitely time to move on. He was saying it on the Fox pre-game show today.

    It’s funny how Winston has a decent game today to beat one of the worst teams in the NFL and now suddenly he’s deserving of a huge contract as if the 100 turnovers, accuracy issues, and bad decisions on 5 years never happened.

    For everyone saying how this offense is putting up points and yards that this franchise never has before, you’re naive if you think it’s because of Jameis.

    FACT: Ryan Fitzpatrick (who can’t even hang on to a starting job somewhere) has multiple 400+ yard passing games with this same offense WITHOUT Godwin starting. He also had multiple 4 TD games with this offense.

    Any decent QB is going to put up numbers and points with this Offense. It’s not exclusive to Jameis Winston.

  64. Oneilbucs Says:

    Jamies is Bret Favre rather you guys like it or not. Bret Favre played on good teams and the national media loved Farve and they hate Jamies that’s the differences. The narrative was Farve was great regardless how many interceptions he threw. He always had a good defense to bail him out and a running game which Jamies never had.

  65. Figures Says:


    I’ll beat your sorry a$$ from one side of Tampa to the other.

  66. JimmyJack Says:

    Sure figures….How ever you wanna say it. Just be sure we only see the back of that head of yours. OK?

  67. JimmyJack Says:

    Figures…..Feel free to come to Ray Jay and come find me. I’ll be at their on the 29th.

    Will gladly post here to let you know precisely where I’m at. Balls in your court buddy.

    Also, get a life.

  68. Oneilbucs Says:

    We need to focus on building the defense and offensive line in this year’s draft. We can still draft a quarterback in the 3rd or 4th round. Sing Jamies to a 3 or 4 year team friendly contract and we will be ok . Look at Wentz that’s why I say ain’t no quarterback is worth a 100 million dollar contract to me . Now Wilson is the asccesption right now he’s the best quarterback in the league. I know it’s not political correct but it’s the truth. Go bucs…..

  69. Figures Says:

    Lol yea ok son.

    Nothing in my original post that got you all pisssssy was wrong or off or not true.

    And everyone knows it except for the few with balls so far down their throats they’re choking.

  70. Stevebobucsfan Says:

    I keep seeing games like today’s game and thinking, the Bucs are improving but then they go get blown out the next week or look like a college team. So do we franchise Jameis or let him walk? I definitely know he want get a long term deal not this off season.

  71. Pa bucs fan Says:

    Man that anti fans here, laughable. Bunch of fair weather fans and hater, complaining even with a win. Jameis isnt the teams only problem and funny how the deffence plays a top notch game and it turns into a no contest.

    Figures must also be a 14 year old constantly name calling people when they dont agree with him.

    Root for your team instead of literally crying about everything lol. Or go bandwagon some other team.

  72. Anonymous Says:

    @JimmyJack Says:
    November 24th, 2019 at 5:31 pm
    “We won today and the QB was a huge part of it”
    The only HUGE part of this rare win, was the defense. our QB cancel out himself with TD and interceptions. That is the best you can hope from this QB.
    Reminder…. it was atlanta, the same 3-7 crap like us….

    BA = LovieS 2.0

  73. JimmyJack Says:

    I’m on Cloud Nine tonight guy. Not sure what your talking about.

    But hey if you wanna search for the negative after a big division win that’s set us up for a 500% division record & 500% home record & 2nd place in the division that’s your problem.

    Yarnt dragging me down and certainly not the ship. That’s why ya gotta walk the plank.

  74. firethecannons Says:

    Just maybe we should consider keeping Winston and beef up the o-line instead? I could be convinced, too early to tank for the draft, felt good beating the Falcons!

  75. JimmyJack Says:

    So angry after a win.

    Do ya maybe gotta sober up?

    If yes I’ll give you a pass. That’s understandable.

  76. MadMax Says:

    Franchise him and build the trenches, except for maybe Safety Isaiah Simmons!…..if we dont go there, then Derrick Brown 1st, RT Meckhi Becton 2nd!

  77. crazyBucs_CL Says:

    @JimmyJack Says:
    November 24th, 2019 at 5:31 pm
    “We won today and the QB was a huge part of it”
    The only HUGE part of this rare win, was the defense. our QB cancel out himself with TD and interceptions. That is the best you can hope from this QB.
    Reminder…. it was atlanta, the same 3-7 crap like us….

    BA = LovieS 2.0

  78. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:

    Finish with 7 wins and I have no issue bringing him back

    Only 5 or 6 wins I don’t see how you justify bringing him back with over 100 turnovers and probably 25 or more INT’s this year alone

    He’s been bad against
    Saints (Twice)

    He’s been great against

    Just ok in the other games

    If he’s a franchise qb he needs to be great more than bad

  79. Miller5252 Says:

    I’m on board with the “our expectations are low” because we’ve seen so many TO. Before we even took the first snap I said Rojo up the gut then Evens for his 1000 yards. So his first pass is an INT. Winston just can’t get any smarter. His INTs today were just bad and not smart. If you resign him it better be for cheap and buy a bad a$$ D.

    It seems like it never fails….. if Winston faces a good defense he has horrible games with multiple turnovers and when he play a medium to crappy D he can have a pretty good game. He just can’t be smart when the D gives him the small windows he feels like every pass is a good one he can connect. When you blame it on the line, I would say look at Seattle….. there line is a lot worse but Wilson is smart enough to pick his battles and be accurate. Something he is always working on.

  80. DB55 Says:

    Let him walk!!!!!

  81. MirrorMirrowOnTheWall Says:

    Jameis interceptions are not indicative of the players he will be. Payton Manning and Brett Favre had more interceptions in their first five years as the starting QUARTERBACK. When Manning and Favre were throwing interceptions, journalist were writing about how great they would be. Why is Jameis different? Manning’s first year and Favre’ second year both had better coaching until Jameis’ fifth year. The teams Manning are Favre played on were much better teams.

  82. JimmyJack Says:

    crazyBucs……I disagree and though Winston rebounded and made a lot of great throws to help us win.

    But I admitt his first quarter was atrocious. Of you wanna hold that against him and use it to cancel out the good he did I will not say it’s not fair.

    We can disagree about his game……and if you wanna say he needs to play better……on that I agree.

  83. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:


    Manning played 5 full seasons

    Jameis won’t because, of his injury and the Uber driver he settled with

    If he played 5 full seasons I bet his numbers would be worse

  84. DB55 Says:

    Can you imagine any scenario where JayMiss could throw for 190 yards and Win 13-9?

  85. T REX Says:

    Joe, and how many is the let him walk category?

    No thanks.

    This is his MO…he plays well when the games don’t matter and he sucks out loud in the beginning of every season. He’s trash. Dump him.

  86. ElBajito43 Says:

    Winston is a mediocre QB. He will never win a super bowl EVER guy has put this team through hell for 5 yrs. ENOUGH! We need to move on!

  87. DB55 Says:


    If you go back to Gruden last day the Bucs have avg 3 win per season

    I don’t count raheems 10 win season bc the team had a bunch of thugs that weren’t good enough to be Bucs like Blount, Talib, Winslow and Bennett. 11 Superbiwl rings between them, not bad.


  88. T REX Says:

    Memo to the people complaining about negativity…blame Joe. He doesn’t just say good game. He wants to put this game in the keep Jameis column. Sorry, but that means keeping that jackwagon long term. That can’t happen. So, yeah…ok game Winston. There. Now haul butt Jameis.

    See. You can have both but you pansies crying about negativity after a game are hilariously weak minded people. We’re 4-7. That sucks. I hate to fill you in but we stink and one game doesn’t erase that.

  89. DB55 Says:

    Carson Palmer threw 22 ints and still won 10 games in Arains offense 🤣🤣🤣

    But his def only gave up 19 ppg. IMAGINE THAT!!!!


    Bring in ANY QB, heck bring back FITZMAGIC they’ll all do better 🤣🤣🤣

  90. BrianBucs Says:

    Winston can beat the horrible teams but is a disaster against the good ones.
    A lot of QB’s have had big days this season against the Falcons.
    Winston’s day is not a big deal.
    Hard to believe that Atlanta got so bad so quickly

  91. DB55 Says:

    I keep hearing about no signature wins, I guess y’all forgot about JayMiss going into LA and beating the then 3 and 0 undefeated defending nfc champs in their house and dropping 55 points and 4 TDs on Talib and Peters with no hundred yard rusher.


  92. JimmyJack Says:

    Derrick Brooks FiftyFive is a closet jets fan.

    His comments can be ignored entirely and rendered useless.

    He is a enemy of this team. Not one of us.

    Phony fraud

  93. DB55 Says:

    Jaymiss going to Pittsburgh next year to play for Tomlin. I can’t wait!!!!!

    His “off-field” issues shouldn’t be a problem up north in Pittsburgh

  94. stpetebucsfan Says:


    “when we have run the ball and played decent defense we have won?”

    I can admit that easily NDOG. Now can you admit when this team does ALL those things many QB’s in this league can win.

    We’re not saying JW totally sucks…well some of us are..not me…I’m simply saying we can do better for a LOT less money.
    Money available to invest in making a rapidly improving team even better.

    Run the ball and play decent defense…yeah that’s the ticket for virtually any QB. For 30 million I want a QB who can carry the team…not a QB who absolutely needs a great defense and offensive players around him to win.

  95. DB55 Says:


    Uhm ty! I’ll take that as a compliment

  96. REDZONE BA Fan Says:

    DB55 Says:
    November 24th, 2019 at 7:31 pm
    Can you imagine any scenario where JayMiss could throw for 190 yards and Win 13-9?
    Best post of the night! Only add in, no INTs…..Same result….

  97. Sharthappens Says:

    Don’t over due it Joe. We just beat a 3 win team

  98. REDZONE BA Fan Says:

    BrianBucs Says:
    November 24th, 2019 at 7:50 pm
    Winston can beat the horrible teams but is a disaster against the good ones.
    A lot of QB’s have had big days this season against the Falcons.
    Winston’s day is not a big deal.
    Hard to believe that Atlanta got so bad so quickly


    Seahawks and Rams on the road are bad teams?????

  99. DB55 Says:


    Did I mention the 45% comp percentage and 70 QBR?

    Gotta cut that guy, definitely not worth the money. He’s a back-up at best!!!!

  100. DB55 Says:


    Week 4 he threw 1 int 0 TDs and won 16-10. 46% comp percentage and 45 QBR

    WEEK 6 he threw 1 int and 0 TDs and won 35-14. 75% comp percentage (wow) and 88 QBR

    In 10 games has 5 Int free games yet has only lost 1 game. That’s impossible, isn’t it? According to buc fans it is but wtfdik

  101. EEK Says:

    Stop it.
    2 interceptions.
    Beating a bad team and racking up numbers after being horrible a week before isn’t enough to warrant $100M.
    Same QB lost 9 in a row.
    Come on dude.
    Let’s have some self esteem.
    We deserve better than that.

  102. JameisWin55 Says:

    Today we saw what Jameis would look like with a complete team. The line blocked well, running game was solid, secondary didn’t give up the booty like usual. Defense stopped other team in key downs and situations. It’s no coincidence that Jameis best ball today was when the defense began imposing their will on Falcons. He didn’t have to score every series or be the hero every down. He was able to find himself get into the game and really dissect what the defense was throwing at him. Joe Burrow, Tua, Eason, Herbert, Fromm done of three guys stream next superstar bring him back beef up O-Line develop the secondary add key components and Jameis and Bucs could be very very dangerous

  103. pryda...sec 147 Says:

    He will be EXTENDED!!!! Also his turnovers are going to go way down in the future as he masters this BA offense.

  104. July Joe Says:

    Just call him “Black Brett”, as in FAVRE.

  105. Bucsfanman Says:

    LOL! The life of a Buc fan! We win: “All hail Jameis!”
    NO! The game balls go to the offensive and defensive lines.

  106. BigHog Says:

    FAMOUS …march on to your contract…no steps back…your left your right…your left right left!! With your Hater Blockers on!!

  107. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    HEY GLAZERS….Sign America’s Grop…..errrr, Quarterback to a long term extension, and nothing will change. Losing seasons, mind-boggling stupid turnovers, and 40k fannies in the seats.

  108. Joe in Michigan Says:

    Keep Winston, draft a good OT in the middle of the 1st Round (someone who can start out at Right Tackle and move to the Left with some experience). More protection for Winston means better play.

  109. Brandon Says:

    I don’t think he deserves to break the bank. I think he MIGHT deserve a nice extension. He reminds me a ton of Brett Favre. Favre was the exact same way… and could afford to be because Green Bay always had a fantastic defense. That being said, he’s got five more games to prove himself… anything worse than four very good performances and 3-2 would say don’t extend. But this will come down the wire for me.

    The other question for the haters is this. If not Jameis, then who? It takes a minimum of 8 games to get Arians O down. A rookie… probably a lot longer. Do we want to sit back and watch 8 games of VET growing pains, or several seasons of rookie growing pains, or do we think we can live with Dr. Jekyll and continue to try and build a solid team around him? The QBs that might be available do little to inspire. Cam Newton, Tannehill, Mariota, Alex Smith, Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, Josh Rosen, Bridgewater, Andy Dalton, it isn’t good.

  110. Dano Says:

    Winston will not get any better ! We can’t take even 1 more year of this .My dog can’t take me yelling for another season Get him out of there ! It won’t surprise me to not even hear of Winston anymore if Bucs don’t give him a contract . I’m an old Bucs die hard fan that just keeps waiting for us to get to the playoffs saying every season this is the one. We got it this season . If Winstons there next season I’m gone I can’t take anymore its horrible to watch and my dog might even start biting me lol Good luck Bucs please do the right thing LET HIM GO ADIOS WINSTON

  111. Dano Says:

    Man let him go Any other team he would have been gone a long time ago I’m a die hard bucs fan but this is getting hard to even watch anymore .Now its expected that he’s gonna throw at least 2 interceptions a game . We can’t win with this guy .He has had too many chances to prove himself He’s not gonna change Get him out of there . You can’t blame the offensive line on his accuracy and bad judgement Let him go ! My poor dog is gonna have a heart attack from me yelling at the tv every Sunday ! If Winston there next season I have find another team to cheer on That’s it can’t take any more of his horrible play

  112. TOM Says:

    Winston is not a franchise QB & never will be. But knowing the Bucs he will be here for at least one more year. I think they already decided that.