Two Young Pro Bowl Cornerbacks Traded … Not To The Bucs

October 15th, 2019

Nahh, we’re good.

This afternoon, two-time Pro Bowl Rams cornerback Marcus Peters, 26, was moved from the Rams to the Ravens for linebacker Kenny Young, a fourth-round pick last season, plus an undisclosed 2020 draft pick, per NFL Network.

And tonight, reports say another two-time Pro Bowl corner, 25-year-old Jalen Ramsey, was dealt to the Rams for two — TWO! — first-round picks and the Rams’ 2021 fourth-round pick.

The Bucs, for now, are good to go with Vernon Hargreaves, Carlton Davis, M.J. Stewart, Sean Murphy-Bunting, Jamel Dean and Ryan Smith. Anyone remember E.J., Leonard, Danny and LeQuan?

No way Joe would have dealt for Ramsey — too risky that he goes all Antonio Bryant and the draft price tag was too high. But Peters would have been an upgrade in the Bucs’ cornerbacks stable. So Joe is weeping a little tonight.

Still, there’s time for Bucco Bruce Arians and Jason Licht to make a move to bolster their weakest unit, one of the weakest cornerback groups in the NFL. That’s what teams trying to win usually do.

Joe sure hopes to wake up tomorrow and find the Bucs traded Hargreaves for a sixth-round pick that they’ll use to package with a fifth to get a decent veteran cornerback.

And on the subject of cornerbacks, Joe finds it interesting that the Panthers’ 11th-ranked and surging defense is getting by with Javien Elliott as their top nickel corner.

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71 Responses to “Two Young Pro Bowl Cornerbacks Traded … Not To The Bucs”

  1. Petty Officer Buc Says:

    It’s a REBUILD! Not a Reload.

  2. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    How about we move Scotty Miller to CB?……..

  3. lambchop Says:

    The Rams are scary good now. Also, the Rams were a player or two away from doing something in the Super Bowl. This is when you trade away 2 first round picks – when you don’t need a rookie to take you over the hump.

    We are far far away from that luxury.

  4. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    THIS IS TIME FOR A REBUILD under no circumstances should we buy ANYTHING we need to sell pieces.

  5. Simeon97 Says:


  6. MadMax Says:

    Lol, number 1 pass ranked secondary in giving up the booty!!!

    I still say draft Delpit (make him a corner) and then move back into the bottom of the 1st for QB Eason….although he may climb into the top ten after the word is out.

  7. SB Says:

    I told all my Seahawks buddies that I thought McDougle was a late bloomer when they asked me. Maybe the same thing with Elliot? He showed flashes.

  8. JL Says:

    Face it people! We’re six games into the season,and the season is basically overfor this team,just like every other year!!

  9. Lamarcus Says:

    Vh3 being still here has me on 🔥 by the hour. What in the hell is going here?

  10. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Cut VH3.

    Send a message to the team

  11. Tbbucs3 Says:

    VH3= Tim Jennings

  12. Pewter power Says:

    Joe exaggerate much. That’s way too much to give up, this was a smart move for teams with the quarterback position secure. Peters is garbage and was nothing special see Mike Evans when we played them. The only corner it makes sense to trade for is Peterson. The only way you give up two first is if your set at quarterback and a playoff contender, the bucs sucks we get it but your really being a drama queen about these trades. One corner is not getting us to the playoffs

  13. Greg Says:

    Once again you need a pass rush and the only way the Buccaneers can get a Rush is by blitzing multiple people. We have too many needs to give up two first round picks that we don’t have the Room to re-sign him next year. Use a little common sense

  14. Pewter power Says:

    Vh3 can play the slot you can’t start gutting the position as if cutting or benching VH3 for guys who can’t beat him out will solve anything. Ryan Smith and dean should get a shot though and see if they are hungry

  15. EK Says:

    So we just cut a strong tackling linebacker that could have been used to make a trade. Rams trade a corner, which we could have used, for a linebacker???

  16. DBS Says:

    One corner may help this defense quit giving up about 30 points a game. That alone would give this team a change to win.

  17. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    If you think that a GM who just got a 5 year extension who drafted 6 CBs in the first 4 rounds of the last 4 drafts and a Head Coach who declared the secondary “fixed” along with a DC who had a hand in drafting SMB & Dean are going to go out and bring in a CB in a trade…..
    Well….you will be sorely disappointed.

  18. Echase Says:

    Easy on hargraves he just needs to smoke more of his flex…

  19. delson Says:

    Yep peters was beaten up badly when we played them. Ramsey was too much. We need a pass rush

  20. delson Says:

    Vh3 stumbles more than a ballerina in her first practice. If jamel dean or sean murphy_bunting can stay on their own two feet at the route breaks they’d already be better than vh3

  21. jjbucfan Says:

    The Rams front office showed they believe in their team so they parted with 2 first rounders. Ramsey is the best CB in the league. We can’t pick our freaking noses in the draft and nobody wants to part with our picks. Ramsey is like 25 years old. He will be like Pat P for the Rams, we might get the actual Pat P at 29 years old and I will be happy as hell. However, we need O-Line!!!!!

  22. PriMech54 Says:

    Correction -a true veteran cornerback and MUCH better play from the offensive line will get the Bucs to the playoffs. Until those two things happen, it won’t matter who the coach or quarterback is. THEY WILL ALWAYS BE A BOTTOM FEEDER REGARDLESS OF QB UNTIL YOU CAN PROTECT THE PASS AND DEFEND THE PASS IN TODAYS NFL. Right now they can’t do either. It’s really not rocket science.

    Jimmy Garoppolo has 9 turnovers through six games, and Jameis Winston has 11. The 49ers are 5-0 and the Bucs are 2-4. The true difference? They run the ball, scheme their best players open, and haven’t allowed an opponent to score over 20 for the entire year.

    Meanwhile, the Bucs struggle to find a truly consistent running game, refuse to scheme anyone open and constantly push the ball past the sticks with low percentages looks, and not only have the worst secondary on Earth, but rank dead LAST in points allowed with 30+.

    It’s not f***ing rocket science.

  23. Joe in Michigan Says:

    Peters must’ve been quite a headache for him to get traded on the cheap. It might be the same deal as when Joe wanted Robert Quinn, but we got JPP instead. If we don’t get Patrick Peterson I’ll be bummed out.

  24. Lamarcus Says:

    Rams sacrifice 5 first rounders for the next 5 years because they haveove to LA, McVay turn his talent around unexpectedly, and needs to win the big game NOW to seize the opportunity to a huge market in LA. If they win they hit the lotto and I agree so they need to do it right now. It will be huge for NFL as well.

    Glazers are trying to field a powerhouse thru the draft as plan years ago because signing free agents like Dom didn’t work yea we blending a few “bridge players” and the players drafted to take reigns have been a disappointment (see Grimes/Vh3, Ayers,Spence)

    Rams and Bucs are on 2 different paths. Bucs are trying to salvage their fail picks and ultimately making JW look bad because of it. Rams have signed most of their guys and their Qb we are trying to figure if JW is worth it See Bucs are so very far behind ball it’s not funny

  25. BucsFan76 Says:

    The Rams gave up too much and still won’t make the playoffs.

  26. Kgh4life Says:

    The Bucs are not a playoff caliber team, so giving 2 1st round picks was out of the question. Trading for Marcus Peters on the other hand would’ve been worth it.

  27. JimmyJack Says:

    Just look at the teams trading for these players. They are teams trying to make SuperBowl runs……There’s really no point in Buc fans even thinking about these trades. They don’t concern us.

    Ramsey is not even a option for this team at that price. Marcus Peters is on a one year deal(i think) Niether player makes a lick of sense for the Bucs and where we are at right now.

    Next up is Patrick Peterson. Y’all wanna trade a first rounder for a year and a half of Peterson? There better be a deep playoff run included in that trade or it’s idiotic. And what if we need a QB? Good luck finding one in round 3.

    Find me a longterm CB we can trade for who won’t be running out the door after the season or next, otherwise stop whining about moves that don’t even fit this team and where we are at currently.

  28. Jmarkbuc Says:

    So Rams are replacing Talib and Peters with Ramsey…whose the third CB? Now the 2?

  29. Doctor_berto Says:

    We need to trade away players, not for them. Season is over, start looking at new GMs.

  30. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    The Rams gave up 2 1st round picks and a 4th for a CB because the “lowly” Bucs torched their secondary and scored 55 points on them….
    Who is our next victim…….will we put a final nail in the Mariota coffin?
    Will we go out to Seattle and embarrass them in front of their rabid fans?
    How about sending Dan Quinn packing?
    Maybe we can cost the Saints home field advantage in the playoffs.

    The point is…..we have 10 games left and we can do some damage.

  31. JimmyJack Says:

    Lamarcus good point…..We made a short term move to trade for Revis and proceed to win, what?, 2 games with him. Yeah real smart that was.

    Then the next fraeking year we they decide to blow up the whole thing and tank for a QB. So yeah let’s trade for one player when we’re 7-8 players away.

  32. Jmarkbuc Says:

    If Petererson loves BA and Bowles so much, maybe you could sign him to a 3 yr deal (2 1/2) anyway. Depends on the money and if he feels AZ is on the rise.

    A couple years might be enough to resurrect the secondary with his help.

  33. Petty Officer Buc Says:

    You get Patrick Peterson now because you need a veteran in the locker room YESTERDAY to teach the CBs and Safeties how to not get bullied. Vernon Heargraves is a puppy that has been kicked too many times and now can’t stop pissing all over the carpet.

    We need a DOG in the locker room. I don’t care if it’s just for a few years of Patrick Peterson (Obviously I hope he has many years left in the tank) but we need Peterson to salvage the careers and confidence of Carlton Davis, SMB, and Jamal Dean while they are still young enough to not be mentally broken.

  34. JimmyJack Says:

    TBBF Don’t forget we also ended Cam Newton’s career in Carolina and if Barkley is never the same back again we will know why.

    BTW…….What in the world happened to that team. We were a very physical football team early and now the sudden everybody we play is kicked our ass on both sides? Freaking wierd team man.

  35. TOM Says:

    What were the Rams thinking? Way to much for Ramsey.

  36. Jmarkbuc Says:


    October 15 and we’re looking to play spoiler? No thanks.

    Besides, We’ve got No Oline, A secondary worse than last years historically bad secondary, A middling LB corps (at best) And you know about our “Skill” position player(s). Throw in our very special ST’s. Does our punter avg like 40 yds at least?

    Basically what we’ve got is Vea, Suh, and Golston clogging up the middle on the rare occasion someone runs on us.

    Coaching sure hasn’t shown us anything, except that more is apparently less.


  37. Joe Says:

    So we just cut a strong tackling linebacker that could have been used to make a trade. Rams trade a corner, which we could have used, for a linebacker???


  38. Petty Officer Buc Says:

    Rams are (rightfully) thinking that LA is a destination city for Free Agents because it is a desirable city and a winning team. They don’t need a late round first pick as much as teams like the Bucs need their inevitable top 5 pick.

    Rams can supplement holes through Free Agency. Rams were also a piece or two away from competing in a very competitive NFC West this year and Ramsey can push them over the edge.

    It will remain to see if Ramsey is the X Factor or not and worth it. I’m just explaining what the Rams were thinking.

  39. jjbucfan Says:

    Petty- also to show the fans that you believe in this team and what you have put together. We may not be that far off. A shut down corner and a couple of offensive lineman. We have another pass rusher with JPP coming back.

  40. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    I think we are the same team…..can be very physical at times…..Carlton Davis vs NO…..and we stopped McCaffery again….(don’t think you can hurt that guy)

    I am quite sure after the LA game that Tenn & Seattle are not sleeping on us.

    I think the Saints were simply a better team….and we all know what happened in London was all about turnovers.

  41. JimmyJack Says:

    Bro Peterson was begging to get out of Arizona in the off-season last I checked. He ain’t coming here and signing long-term to play for a 6 win team. That dude wants a ring.

    And last I checked we might not even have a freaking QB next year.

    We need a long-term solution. Not a patchjob that’ll be walking out the door when if/we finally fix the other positions that gotta back addressed. If we was 5-1 right now different story.

  42. BucsFan76 Says:

    One day, ownership will get sick of losing. Being an embarrassment to themselves. When I think loser, I think Glazer. That’s where it all starts.

  43. JimmyJack Says:

    And when Peterson is gone in a year we can all whine that they didnt build the team properly and we’ll be back to zero at CB.

  44. Adrnagy Says:

    I’m a firm believer that some players a born superstars and other are late bloomers. But after 5 yrs …. it’s time to move on. Example Kurt Warner or Mahomes.

  45. Adrnagy Says:

    GM ‘s should be caught in the what if …

  46. Jmarkbuc Says:


    They are embarrassed all the way to the bank…

  47. BucsFan76 Says:

    Exactly @JimmyJack

  48. Petty Officer Buc Says:

    Patrick Peterson can play the role that Logan Mankins played for the Offensive Line in 2015. Veteran leadership and experience is invaluable to younger rookies.

    But since it is obvious that we are most likely rebuilding we should definitely hold onto our top 5 pick and accumulate draft picks to build up a halfway respectable Offensive Line and get Pass Rushers.

    This still leaves the question of who will be the veteran in the DB room at One Buc Palace? It sure as hell ain’t going to be the scared puppy known as VH3.

  49. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    This just in…..Patrick Peterson is coming to Tampa!!!!

    He’ll be here November 10th…..

  50. jjbucfan Says:

    Lol- pretty funny

  51. BrianBucs Says:

    You can’t trade for what you can’t afford. And with the Bucs now being in Salary Cap Hell, (Thank You Jason Licht) Bucs probably are having trouble paying for all of Licht’s trips to the buffet, and it looks like he is there very often

  52. ElBajito43 Says:


    Nothing has changed……. new coach, SAME FAT SLOB LOSER TRASH 🗑 LICHT

    Oh Malcolm where have you gone?

  53. Jean Lafitte Says:

    Was there a memo that Marcus Peters was on the trade block? C’mon

  54. Jonathan Limpchimpi Says:

    No need to worry…Licht Weight & Co. are going to buckle down over the next 4 drafts and spend countless high picks on obscure secondary players that are XFL caliber. Not NFL quality…but Licht’s sneaky like that. The rest of the league has no idea what he’s doing.

  55. ElBajito43 Says:



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  56. Clean House Says:

    Glazers wool move this side show to London, where morons cheer for extra points and penalties

  57. Clean House Says:


  58. Bruce Blahak Says:

    2 #1 picks for Ramsey…that would set this team up for great success lol

  59. Buczilla Says:

    If we were .500 or better I’d be p!$$ed, but this team is a train wreck that harkens back to the days of Ray Perkins.

  60. Todd Says:

    Jason Licht has a new poster in his office that says:


  61. Defense Rules Says:

    TBBF, JimmyJack & PriMech54 … Some excellent, and realistic, viewpoints exchanged there late at night; kudos. Ramsey made ZERO sense for the Bucs … at THAT price especially. Lamarcus nailed it … “Rams and Bucs are on 2 different paths”.

    Although the Bucs could’ve used Peters because he’d certainly be an upgrade over VHIII, there’s no reason to think that he’s the ‘veteran CB presence’ that we needed to provide LEADERSHIP in the locker room. Besides, the time to bring a veteran on-board was six months ago. We are where we are … unfortunately. I’ve convinced myself now that THAT ship has sailed, and Lichtweight missed it. I can’t see Licht making a deal before Oct 29th to FIX IT.

    Also convinced though that we’ve got ENOUGH to work with on the defensive side to build a pretty solid core by later this year (we’re not a playoff contender, so let’s not pretend). We still NEED a pass rusher, but JPP coming back MAY solve that. Our ILB play SHOULD improve steadily with LVD & White now both on the field. It’s our Secondary that’s the huge question mark, and especially our CBs. We’ve got some still fairly raw talent IMO in Davis, Dean, SMB & Ryan Smith that MIGHT prove to be an answer … but not tomorrow. They need experience working together. VHIII & MJ Davis are decent nickels, although I’d personally rather see 1 of those first 4 on the field as a nickel to get playing time. Our safeties have a similar problem in that Whitehead & Edwards are both raw, but they both have talent. Get ’em time on the field to build experience.

  62. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    Great photo. Arians, staring at Licht’s belly “Hey, dude, eat a salad once in a while”

  63. BucsFanSince1976 Says:

    Brate to Pats for Jonathon Jones and a 3. Slot receivers are killing us and Jones is one of the best slot corners in the league. Licht Brain manages the way he looks , SLOW and LAZY.

  64. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Trade deadline coming…who is going to fleece Jason Lite this time ?

  65. Colonel Angus Says:

    I say the hell with draft picks. We’ve been picking in the top half of the draft for better part of 11 seasons, and here we are staring at a 12th consecutive season missing the playoffs. Use your draft picks to make the team better, and that may mean trading a few of them every now and then. I know that will ruin some fans draft day parties though.

  66. Allbuccedup Says:

    Tampabaybucsfan november 10th is too late 2-6 record. Might as well wait until the draft to trade for him or sign byron jones. Winston will be gone or take a pay cut we will have the money I hope.

  67. NPRSageBoy Says:

    Team is going nowhere so why mortgage the future for more trash?

    Playing for the draft with a new GM.

  68. Hodad Says:

    How would Licht justify trading for corners when he keeps drafting corners? What’s he going to do, start cutting the DB’s he’s drafted the last two drafts so he can trade for other DB’s? He decided it was better to bring in free agent D linemen like Suh over drafting them. Same with the O line, Jensen instead of drafting a center, and what ever his name is playing RT instead of drafting one. He’s put all his draft capital in DB’s, sorry fans there’s no changing that now.

  69. Snook Says:

    Sorry folks, but the Rams had one of the best secondarys in the NFL. But without much a pass rush this season it doesn’t matter if you have Marcus Peters AND Aqib Talib. Sooooo…

    But yeah, trade for 3 All-Pro CBs and see what happens.

    So many Bucs fans (and their media) are total morons.

  70. ReallyFans Says:

    F4om the little I know every comment is hilarious. The Rams will.go on a run and make.the playoffs . I’m shocked the6 gave up 2 first rounders for one player
    A pro bowler but they will have needs their secondary wasn’t the issue . Their o line is . 2 1st rounders lmao . That’s untrue has to be

    You think Peterson in the dressing room teaches players how to play ? They laugh at him as they earn more money. The game has changed no such th8ng as a locker room bully . Unless it’s Ray Lewis. Lets go for a beer. No thanks sir I like being alive lol. . Nice we need a locker. Maybe we can score enough 50 yard f2f to win some games. Better than we are doing now. And man the owner allowed two 1st rounders to go ? And they need a run like bad . Goff has had a setback and that o line geez they can’t run it either. Yes positive I love the we can disrupt other teams . Now.thats positivity. Start how the Patriots do. One at a time and look what they surprisingly do every darn year. No matter how good that coach is the Ayers buy into a.system they believe in the system. All teams say it but the pats year in and out prove it they say it cause they believe it . One game at a time. Excellent comment about disrupting other good teams. That’s what is needed a positive outlook. Don’t give up your picks. As the average NFL career is what 4 years ? So trade does somebody special they can’t and won’t no matter who.they are turn a TEAM around you need it all . From o line very important perhaps the most underestimated positions . They alone move the team. A Dr line and d backs. Moat player A have speed and can catch. It’s the unmodified positions that are oh so important. And a Team it’s a Team sport buy in to the coaches. They have players their whole lives they k ow when a coach is talking and when he is their high give the rock to our beat player we win. It’s the NFL. The lines count the most. Show me a.superbowl.contender without the beasts on the trenches that’s where game a are won. Not at a corner . They won’t throw there . Lol man disrupt is it and hope the draft picks pan out. It’s time to get rid of the high prices talent. If they have talent someone will give a 1st rounder. Load up on picks 2 years you will have a team. Provided coaching is indeed coaching . Nelicheck is a magician ? No . He make a believers outa 5th rounders . He makes compete a part of practice. He doesn’t give a **** what a guy earns . Show me your play make plays block intercept etc. Its a TEAM. let the high prices talent run the team not in N.E. sad that the rams are tossing the future for.this year and they might not make the playoffs. Their schedule is tough. Man let’s laugh at that. McKay I can t see him going for this trade unless he see something we don’t. The Peters sucks where have you been? Do you watch any game a at all . Your comment is absurd. A “fan” of the rock lol ya you thought this was curling you seen tock and thought .

    It’s football American style . The boys on the line dictate the game. Has anyone watched games. 1 2 pass. Or 2 sack that’s the difference. The lines man

  71. ReallyFans Says:

    Mcvey obviously seen somethong he didnt like in Peters ao trade away two 1st rounders. Master Nelicheck would have coached the talented.player and headed him for a 5th rounder. As we have seen that 5th rounder with much to prove would have played the TEAM SYSTEM that patriots seem to have. Can we get rid of woman loved as a.qb he is no Romo as commentator. He isn’t even a potato