Judgment Days For Jameis

October 27th, 2019

By any fair measurement for grading a starting veteran NFL quarterback, Jameis Winston has had seven exams this season and received three different grades.

In three games he got an A, excellent work against the Rams, Giants and in Carolina I.

In three games he failed significantly, (today in Tennessee, against the Niners at home and in Carolina II).

And in New Orleans, Jameis was meh. If you set a low bar, he was OK against the Saints. If you have a high bar, he was jittery and off his game, a little lucky to have two interceptions taken off the board for penalties away from the ball.

Regardless, through seven games, Jameis has a bad grade for the season. C-??

Surely, even his staunch defenders among Bucs fans expected a lot better in 2019.

America’s Quarterback is now 61 starts into his career an it remains unclear whether he has what it takes to be successful quarterback. Of course, growing legions of fans think he’s proven that he cannot cut it.

No, Joe doesn’t think the Jameis era ended today in Tennessee. He’ll get more games to discover consistency, but his time is just about up.

Team Glazer, Bucco Bruce Arians and Jason Licht already may be all-in on finding his replacement — while they keep their fingers and toes crossed that he can go on a run of solid and strong play we’ve yet to see.

130 Responses to “Judgment Days For Jameis”

  1. Mike Johnson Says:

    3 words..Our Bucs..Suck. To holy hell and beyond.

  2. Rojas Says:

    Time to move on..

  3. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    JW = FAIL

  4. Pete I Says:

    What will the Golf Cart say?

    Winston is……….

  5. Bird Says:

    He looked fantastic

  6. Day1BucFan Says:

    F*CK YOU JOE! America’s Quaterback.

  7. BucFan81 Says:

    Winston is DONE in Tampa. He is the main damn reason why we keep losing. If you can’t see that you are an idiot. He turns the ball over and puts the defense in bad spots which he did twice today. He may have a few good plays to keep you thinking he is worth a damn. Then he has even more bad plays and dumb decisions. Dude is garbage and we need to move on and find a real QB. So tired of watching this trash every week.

  8. Wesley Says:

    Fire everyone, minus maybe a dozen players.

  9. StephenHR Says:

    And I turned off Netflix and The Great British Bake Off for this dross??! It was pastry week!!

  10. Arealbucsfan Says:

    Time to move on

  11. Onetrickpony Says:

    Cut him, this is a joke thats not funny anymore

  12. spicoli Says:

    He’ll get more games to discover consistency, but his time is just about up.

    This said it all Joe; we’ve been waiting for Jameis to be more consistent game after game after game. I’m expecting us to go QB with our first pick next draft.

  13. D-Rome Says:

    Season is over. This is not a Reload. This is a rebuild and I will not be surprised if Bruce Arians and his staff is not here next year.

  14. NYbucsfan Says:

    Winston stinks!

  15. Anonymous Says:

    Y’all full of sh!t. Winston played well enough to win.

  16. NPRSageBoy Says:

    Can win with stupid turnovers; JayMiss needs to go.

  17. JameisHas2Go Says:

    Jameis is not completely to blame, there are several culprits. However, high level franchise quarterbacks do not turn the football over as much as he does. That is a fact. I expect the Bucs to sit pat unfortunately at the trade deadline because I don’t think this team is ready to admit that it is time to start acquiring assets.

    Cameron Brate(provided he is not hurt)
    Jason Pierre Paul
    Vernon Hargreaves
    Peyton Barber

    Should all be moved to acquire assets.

  18. AlteredEgo Say: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Jameis has been consistent!…. you have not noticed?

  19. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    Winston is done everywhere in football. CFL, XFL maybe. Time to see if he can be a relief pitcher. Or maybe work in a bar and deliver pitchers!

  20. MadMax Says:

    MOVE ON!!!!!!!!

    JACOB EASON…..or if picking in the top 3, BURROWS!!!!!!!!

  21. B-Rad Says:

    I’m done till the Glazers sell the team

  22. BucsBandit Says:




    301 YARDS!!!

  23. Warrenfb12 Says:

    I’d probably keep him man. They need to get better around Jameis.

  24. Mike10 Says:

    Bye bye JW

    You hold that ball wayyyyy too long and can’t read defenses. Talented but dumb, and that fire he once had is far gone. I’m done talking about potential. If he can’t win us a SB, then he ain’t the guy.

  25. reply Says:

    Def time to move on……..
    this dude is a loser

  26. AlteredEgo Say: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Jameis is not to blame for the win…. Jamyth is to blame for NOT WINNING…

  27. NPRSageBoy Says:

    Waiting for Ndog to blame the defense.

  28. SteveK Says:

    Can’t take the turnovers any more. .

  29. spicoli Says:

    He’ll probably over throw the open customers on those pitchers!

  30. T REX Says:

    ndogpoop: But it’s not Winston’s fault that he’s stupid. It’s his parents that their DNA sucks. It’s not Winston’s fault he’s garbage. It’s his parents DNA that causes all his turnovers.

    Winstonpologists…do not come anywhere near me. You’ll regret it today.

    Winston is TRASH. Time to take out the TRASH.

  31. Sydney Says:


  32. tmaxcon Says:

    no qb can play behind that half arse make shift oline… it’s disgusting that glazers and licht rolled with this oline and secondary this year. jameis will be fine when he escapes the black hole that is tampa

  33. Jose R Says:

    Time to move on from Wilson and some other players.we are ssellers now

  34. gotbbucs Says:

    Tennessee Ready

  35. jmarkbuc Says:


    “No, Joe doesn’t think the Jameis era ended today in Tennessee. He’ll get more games to discover consistency, but his time is just about up”

    Bi-Polar much?

    Or Passive aggressive, you decide

  36. MadMax Says:

    -JUMPS ON THE TABLE…..”fk him right in his p#*sy”

    Bye dude!!!!

  37. tgregs Says:

    Freeman the 2nd

  38. Petty Officer Buc Says:

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    WE WANT GRIFFIN! 👏👏👏👏👏
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    WE WANT GRIFFIN! 👏👏👏👏👏

  39. Iamabuc Says:

    There’s no doubt in my mind, that that freaking scrubb named Perriman made us loose that game from the freaking beggining. I understand that at that point in the game only a miracle could’ve saved us. I blame focking Leftwich. Knowin that Perriman has being missing all game; why in hell he draws a play for him in the last play of the game is ridiculous…smfdh..

  40. 813bucboi Says:

    JW IS A BUST….


  41. GhostofSchiano Says:

    What exactly is his turnover total for the season? Fumbles & interceptions? Then what is the nfl average?

    Its like he regressed each year rather than improved.

  42. Easy Says:

    Get rid of him after this season. 5 years and still has showed ZERO improvement. Licht should be our the door right behind him

  43. SilverBuc Says:

    I’ll be so happy when Winston moves on to a better team and better fan base, so I don’t have to follow this sorry franchise and only have to follow my home team.

  44. Bird Says:

    Jameis ran the ball good today

  45. 813bucboi Says:

    19 games with multiple INTs….


  46. BucsBandit Says:


    “Jameis had over 300 yards and 2 TDs today… it’s not his fault! The rest of the team is trash!”

  47. Frankinthe813 Says:

    He might be better when he’s in his 30s, but I won’t be a fan by then…..

  48. Jason Says:

    Did he make a single completion where we said he’s one very few that can make that throw? I say no. On his interceptions, did we say who else does that? I say yes. Jameis is too much Mr. Hyde, and not enough Dr. Jekyll.

  49. crazy Says:

    He’s gonna be a great backup QB somewhere someday.

  50. Tye Says:

    Titans justified their decision to replace MM in the same game the Bucs prove they are kidding themselves to keep starting JW.. Titans won today, in more ways than 1!

  51. QUE589 Says:

    This is when we see how real Bruce Arians really is. It’s time to make a QB change. NO MORE EXCUSES.

  52. Destinjohnny Says:

    Is anyone surprised?
    Jameis isn’t a bust and he isn’t elite
    He is not a top 20 qb

  53. TampaTown Says:

    The Jameis Winston era is over. It died today. He’ll keep playing but he’s done and he knows it and we all know it. Now watch the team keep spewing their bull$hit and spitting in our face and telling us it’s raining.

  54. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    Ndog will continue to chirp that once Winston leaves Tampa he’s going to be some incredible QB. However, if you watch anything objectively, you realize he is incredibly flawed. He can’t read a defense. He takes stupid chances. He’s a fumbling machine. He has no pocket presence. He’s scared of competition. He throws interceptions at an alarming rate. He can’t beat the play clock a couple times a game.
    The guy flat out stinks. Jay Miss is now a bottom 5 starting QB in this league. Can’t wait to hear what that walking heart attack Arians says about him in his presser.

  55. BucsBandit Says:



    If Bruce Arians has a decent coach he’d sit Winston and give Griffen a chance to see what he can do.

  56. Petty Officer Buc Says:

    This Bruce Arians press conference is absolutely DISGUSTING with the excuses.

  57. lambchop Says:

    I’m actually finding amusement in how many ways this team can lose.

    This game was summed up by the barber perriman takeout. This team is not coached well….AT ALL. Todd Bowles is working miracles with that horrible secondary.

  58. Howard Cosell Says:

    You can’t fix glaser

  59. NPRSageBoy Says:

    So much for BA NEVER losing 3 in a row.

    Although, he never had a Turnover Machine like this bust

  60. SteveK Says:

    Can’t wait for Jameis Joe to spin this again it’s getting so old. Whatever poster likened the logic ton”flat earther” was on point.

  61. BuccoBrucey Says:

    sit him. After 4+ years, its the same old winston. He won’t change. time to move on

  62. Bucnjim Says:

    To the Joe’s: you know what you can’t win when you turn the ball over? ANY NFL GAME! You can spin it up though to blame th CB’s though I’m sure.

  63. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Been a supporter but I’m done…..he simply hasn’t improved…..he takes too long to throw….can’t see the field…..reckless with his passes and fumbles too much.


  64. Danny Says:

    Will Jameis get a few more games to show us what we already know? Probably.

    Should he? Probably not.

    It’s over. Time to face the music.

  65. Craig Says:

    That was absolutely perfect. It the true epitome of a Jameis game. It could only be better if it was his last game, I doubt that. Stroud said BA is going to give him ten games, that is too much. Dump him now, trade deadline is coming.

  66. No Risk It No Biscuit Says:

    Hello my name is Sheep.

    The Bucs Realist is RIGHT!

    We are just BAAAAAAAD!

  67. Rafterman 61 Says:

    Joe why do you insist on calling JW America’s quarterback! You implying that America is made up of a bunch of losers ! Stop already the Kid stinks ! America likes a winner , it’s what makes America exceptional!

  68. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Too inconsistent. I don’t like to judge immediately after a game, but I’m leaning toward trading Winston.

    Don’t break up the defense. Keep OJ, Brate, Evans, Godwin, Marpet, Jenson, Cappa, and Jones. Rest could be put up for sale…if they start selling.

  69. BucFan81 Says:

    It is ironic how Winston career started with an INT against TN and now it is going to end the same way…

  70. Im tired and 87 is right Says:

    I will challenge you fans with this. Start supporting your team regardless who is on the field. Since the last lost alls I saw was all the crap talking on here. You all have your different agendas but I’m tired of no support from the fans. I don’t care if we lost for a hundred years we still die with this team and support them. Bucs fan for life!

  71. Jeebs the Honey Bear Says:

    Did you not see the 2nd half of the Giants game?? His first half was an A+, his second half was a D+. That’s a B- at best.

    San Fran: F
    Carolina 1: B+
    Giants: B-
    Rams: A
    Saints: C+
    Panthers 2: F
    Titans: F

    Season grade: D+

  72. WalkdaPlank Says:

    How many more games like this do we need to see?

    It’s been 5 years!! Lol

  73. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    1 Tua Tagovailoa 6-1 218 4.62e Alabama JR
    2 Justin Herbert 6-6 233 4.70e Oregon SR
    3 Jake Fromm 6-2 220 4.80e Georgia JR
    4 Joe Burrow 6-4 216 4.81e LSU SR
    5 Jacob Eason 6-6 228 4.88e Washington JR
    6 Jalen Hurts 6-2 219 4.52e Oklahoma SR
    7 Jordan Love 6-4 220 4.92e Utah State JR
    8 K.J. Costello 6-5 215 4.76e Stanford JR
    9 Sam Ehlinger 6-3 235 4.74e Texas JR
    10 Kellen Mond 6-2 217 4.60e Texas A&M JR
    11 Nate Stanley 6-4 243 4.91e Iowa SR
    12 Steven Montez 6-5 230 4.80e Colorado SR
    13 Shea Patterson 6-2 205 4.68e Michigan SR
    14 Brian Lewerke 6-3 214 4.82e Michigan State SR
    15 Anthony Gordon 6-3 210 4.84e Washington State SR
    16 Nathan Rourke 6-2 209 4.65e Ohio SR
    17 James Morgan 6-4 213 4.87e Florida International SR
    18 Bryce Perkins 6-3 215 4.56e Virginia SR
    19 Tyler Huntley 6-1 205 4.74e Utah SR
    20 Kelly Bryant 6-3 225 4.70e Missouri SR
    21 Tom Flacco 6-1 208 4.66e Towson SR
    22 Blake Barnett 6-5 217 4.84e South Florida SR Out for 2019 Season
    23 Riley Neal 6-6 225 4.76e Vanderbilt SR

  74. Im tired and 87 is right Says:

    Bucfan81 Jameis will be your starter next week so start supporting.

  75. From76 Says:

    Has he ever been consistent. You have to be be to win a super bowl. Period. Sad but it’s never gonna happen with him.

  76. Bucsace Says:

    Tomorrow could be an interesting day at 1 Buc place

  77. Petty Officer Buc Says:

    I want Winston to start the rest of the year so we can compete for a top 3 draft pick. I’m all in behind Winston at this point.

  78. Don Phillips Says:

    While it may indeed be time to move on from Winston, do we as fans trust anyone in this organization, including the Glazer boys to pick us another QB?? Licht needs to be fired whether that means Arians goes with him or not!! This is his roster and there is way more bad than good!!

  79. No Risk It No Biscuit Says:

    We are going to have first pick on the draft and not get the best available QB.

  80. SilverBuc Says:

    This bigoted fan base is sickening

  81. Howard Cosell Says:

    Im tired and 87 is right Says: …

    Howard fully accepts your lifestyle choices

  82. lambchop Says:

    Keep Jameis as a starter. We can aim for a higher draft pick.

  83. Kord Says:

    Just bench or cut the bastard, had one 9-7 year, and we know the rest….

  84. Howard Cosell Says:

    It was close but we made it to draft talk in October!!
    So who do you like in the draft??

  85. BucFan81 Says:

    Im tired and 87: I don’t want to keep supporting trash it has been 5 years of him and his garbage. Not only that as a buc fan I am sick of losing I think we all are. We have not even been to the playoffs since 2007 let that sink in. It will be 2020 next year it is crazy that the suck has lasted this long. I know other people are to blame its not all Winston but he is a big part of the problem.

  86. Capt Jack Says:

    When will we see Ryan Griffin? It seem as if back up QB are doing well everywhere else.

  87. Howard Cosell Says:

    Supporting this crap is classic codependency dysfunction, and shows a lack of self worth

  88. Pete I Says:


    Keep Jameis ” meaningless stats ” Winston America’s QB in, don’t bench him.

    He will end any debate except for NDOG – pooper scooer.

    At this point the Bucs may not even be spinning their wheels but backing uo with Jameison

  89. Phred Says:

    If – after 61 games – you are still debating whether your QB is “the guy,” he isn’t.

  90. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Great observation and post !
    BucFan81 Says:
    October 27th, 2019 at 4:38 pm
    It is ironic how Winston career started with an INT against TN and now it is going to end the same way…

  91. Howard Cosell Says:

    …we are the abused spouses of the NFL…Bucs fans unite!

  92. Petty Officer Buc Says:

    Howard Cosell: Agreed. Our BFFs the Titans moved on from that jerk Marcus Mariota, yet we keep on hoping that Winston will be different tomorrow.

  93. Bucs 14 Says:

    How hard would it be to start Ryan Griffin? Season is more than likely over. Give the kid some playing time and see what he has got. Thank Jameis for 5 years of service and and sit his ass. Jameis is who we thought he was.

  94. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    The leaves are changing in BA’s beautiful lake house…and changing in Tampa too…

  95. ATrain Says:

    How long Does Jamies get with these LOVERS ANF JOE



    He is not good

  96. BucsBandit Says:


    That was ME with the Flat Earther comparison. It’s so true.

    It’s called the Dunning-Kruger Effect. They believe so much that Winston is great, their cognitive bias doesn’t allow them to see the truth.


  97. Howard Cosell Says:

    Not blaming Winston per se.
    Blaming the glasers big time

  98. Rayjay1122 Says:

    For most NFL teams, having a durable starting QB is a blessing. Not for Tampa who has a coach too stubborn to bench him for RG4 and Winston just won’t get dinged up enough to miss any snaps.

    It’s a shame to actually be pushed to the point where thinking an injury to a player would be helpful. Only the Bucs!

  99. Petty Officer Buc Says:

    Start Ryan Griffin?

    This is a team that had to go out and get BLAINE GABBERT to be the backup because Winston can’t handle the pressure of having another QB behind him on the depth chart like Fitzpatrick.

    The Titans didn’t care, so they went out and got a quality backup in Tannenhill and it’s paying off for them.

    Jamies Winston is that chunky girl who needs all her friends to be fatter and more ugly than her to feel confident.

  100. Im tired and 87 is right Says:

    I’ve been a season ticket holder since 2013 and driving to the other coast for every game so I understand your pain but part of the issue is we all act like we know everything and run people out of town when in reality we should leave that judgement to the professionals. We should just support the team to the best of our ability even though it’s hard at times. We have to start thinking positive and get behind this team or the hard times will continue with the next guy you insert into this lineup. I saw a defense play great football today and our team still playing to lose. This team lacks confidence and we as fans need to instill faith in the team regardless who is on the field. Go Bucs!

  101. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    …ever notice there is a Busch brewery in Tampa and the Bucs always lose….good for business conspiracy theory

  102. BucsBandit Says:

    If I’m Jason Licht I trade O.J. Howard and others to collect draft capital that will allow them to move up in the draft so they can get a solid QB.

  103. tgregs Says:

    Time for Joe to replay his Johnny Football man love

  104. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Can one of the Joes get permission to use Derrick Sharps….sharp stick in the eye sound track ?

  105. D-Rome Says:

    Bonzai, no one is going to trade for Jameis. Get real.

  106. GhostofSchiano Says:


  107. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    BTW…The Buc rookie #98 looked pretty good in the few snaps he had

  108. Fire the fans Says:

    You guys calling to get rid of jw are gonna be real upset because it’s definitely not happening. Go listen to BA press conference. You bunch of jokers lol

  109. Petty Officer Buc Says:

    Nobody wants to get rid of JW3 at this point. He is our best hope of scoring a top 3 draft pick now that the playoffs are out of reach.

  110. ElBajito43 Says:

    @Mike Johnson YOU sir are supposed to be enjoy the movie 🍿 with your wife!

  111. Bucs_Fan_Orlando Says:

    The ranking of QBs in our division.

    Brees, netwon, Ryan, Bridgewater, [Kyle] Allen, Schaub (99.8 QBR today as a backup) then JW 68. 1 QBR today).

    Good luck with that.

  112. ElBajito43 Says:

    Yeah yeah


    We know! And when the Bucs get to the 2020 DRAFT it will be Safety taken 10th overall! 😭😭😭😭😭😭

    Winston will keep the Bucs just far enough out of the top picks to make it safe for him, and of course LICHTENSTEIN is gonna go down if Winston SINKS because he is has been riding that pirate ship 🛳 for 5 yrs.


    and that my friends is NOT GONNA HAPPEN

  113. Ndog Says:

    Jameis was excellent today. Don’t take it from me go listen to the coach. Unlike Koetter, Arains will tell you the truth and the truth is I’m the QB is not the problem. Players running wrong routes, guys missing blocks, secondary blowing coverages, guys commiting penalities all over the place. Without Jameis, Evans and Godwin ( who caused a pick today) we would never be in any game. This team mentally just simply makes too many errors.

  114. Ndog Says:

    Anyone that understands football and watched the games understand know the issue is a team wide issue not a QB issue.

  115. Aubpierce Says:

    James played hard and tried to win. His wind up is not suited for today’s NFL. The ball was slapped out of his hand as he went to pass. James has a baseball wind up and that is where he can succeed, but not in the NFL.

  116. Architek79 Says:

    The QB is the captain and he’s trash.

  117. D-Rome Says:

    Anyone that understands football and watched the games understand know the issue is a team wide issue not a QB issue.

    No one disputes this. Problem is, if you take away the INTs and fumbles his decision making is poor more often than not. The O-Line gave him many clean pockets and he could not convert.

    Regardless, this is a team loss. Jay-Miss didn’t help.

  118. Im tired and 87 is right Says:

    Plus the fact we should all be irked by the refs…I can’t believe nobody is complaining about that alone. It’s hard enough to win in this league but when the refs also screw you forget about it. The refs alone have cost us three wins this year. When you are talking about a game of inches this should not go under the radar. Come on fans get it together!

  119. Bucs_Fan_Orlando Says:

    October 27th, 2019 at 4:33 pm
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  120. Ed Says:

    All Ii want to see next season is a mobile qb who can make quick decisions and has a high IQ when it comes to learning how to read defenses. I think the size of a quarterback is very overrated. Drew Brees and Russell Wilson are regular sized men who are amongst the best players in the NFL.

    JW is not elite and never will be. The speed of the game is too much for him to handle to become an average quarterback. He is one of those guys that needs to go to another team and sit on the bench for 2 or 3 years and learn the game from an accomplished veteran quarterback. Like Aaron Rogers did from Favre, like Steve Young did from Montana. Too much responsibility was thrown at this young guy and he couldn’t handle it. What a waste of 5 years.

  121. Coburn Says:

    I will say it again.. he had 1.5 great games.. feel like I remember a different game first go at carolina. We moved thr ball but couldn’t score. . That’s why it came down to a vg3 tackle. Giants as a stear firs rhalf and a mixture of conservative calling and jameis mis sing throws. . You knew I’d they didn’t call conservative that one int wold have been multiple

  122. MadMax Says:

    Jason, call NE, call Bill,….we know they will have a bottom first and bottom second…..you want JW and OJ? Gimme those!!!

  123. Jmarkbuc Says:

    Gee tired 87….

    Season tix for a whole 5 years? Woo hoo. That essentially makes you a Bucs virgin, compared to us 76’ers….

  124. Jmarkbuc Says:

    And for those saying draft a QB

    We need far more than one player…sign a journeyman or a QB in the fifth round. Until we build a better roster the QB does not matter.

    JW must go.

  125. July Joe Says:

    49’ers: B- (two picks NOT on him … and have you seen how other QBs have looked against the 49’ers?)

    Carolina: B+ (game-manager)

    Giants: A+ (Superstar performance)

    Rams: A+ (Superstar performance)

    Saints: C (I don’t care that his “stats” were better than they were in the 49’ers game, watch the tape … he was better in the 49’ers game)

    Panthers: C- (One pick and one fumble were on him … but the team still scored 26 and could have had 33 if Mike Evans didn’t drop a perfectly thrown 74 yard TD and that throw is part of JW’s evaluation, not just the end “incompletion” result that fans focus on like idiots)

    Titans: B+ (300 passing yards, as many rushing yards in 8 carries as the 3 RBs had in 22 carries and neither INT or fumble was on him … he played very well)

    Cumulative GPA: 3.1 = slightly above a “B”


  126. Nimrod1of1 Says:

    July Joe (or should I say Jameis1of1?) – please just stop. You tout QBR as the “king of comprehensive stats”, right? Your boy Jameis is is TWENTY-FIFTH in Raw QBR, TWENTY-FIRST in Total QBR. How in God’s good name can you assign him a slightly above a “B” grade when the numbers, the things you try to lord over anyone and everyone, do not back up your position? I’ll wait while you backtrack and try to point to “advanced metrics” or some other pile of dung to convince everyone else that the eye test and on-field results mean nothing…

    Jameis is a backup QB in his next stop. And that’s fine, because it’s more in line with his skill set which is tailor made for that sort of low expectations, he’s-only-here-in-case-our-starter-gets-hurt position.

    He’s done. And Arians is a snake oil salesman that once again proves the three ring circus that is the Bucs got duped again.

  127. Anthony J Thompson Says:

    Just like the NFL, the QB will take on most of the blame for the teams failures and too much of the credit when the team struggles. He has a :I have to make a play” attitude because of the team built around him. I’m not saying he’s an elite QB but he’s better than we give him credit for. We have had a nonexistent running game most of his career and our OL play has been average at best. Our defense rarely holds leads or just flat out can’t stop any body over the past few years. The team needs time to learn HOW to win. Years of losing takes time to overcome. I still believe Jameis can lead us to a Super Bowl with right supporting cast.

  128. July Joe Says:

    Nimrod1of1 aka Morgusthemagnificent aka BucsBandit aka a bunch of other names,

    Jameis is actually currently 26th, not 25th, in Raw QBR, which is even worse than you said – get your stats right – and 21st in Total QBR, but of course a large part of both ranks are the FOUR INTs that were not on him …

    Regardless, you want some stats, ok … let’s just compare him with the $134,000,000 man, Jared Goff:


    Raw QBR: 26th – 24th = GOFF

    Total QBR: 21st – 25th = JAMEIS

    Jameis bests Goff in the combined QBR … and both guys best Josh Allen, who is 5-2 through 7 games … why … because “teams” win games in the NFL!

    Here’s some more “stats”:


    Y/A: 9th – 15th = JAMEIS
    AY/A: 21st – 19th = GOFF
    Y/C: 2nd – 11th = JAMEIS
    NY/A: 16th – 11th = GOFF
    ANY/A: 21st – 14th = GOFF

    Goff wins 3 categories to Jameis’ two, but Jameis has a slightly better “average rank”

    You also wanted ADVANCED METRICS … here you go:


    Air/Cmp: 1st – 15th = JAMEIS (leads the NFL!!!)
    Air/Att: 4th – 14th = JAMEIS
    ADOT: 1st – 17th = JAMEIS (leads the NFL!!!)
    BAD THROW % = 22nd = 30th = JAMEIS
    (Jameis bests Mahomes & Russell Wilson)

    Jameis wins ALL FOUR categories and has an average advanced metric rank of 7th while Goff is at 17th

    BTW, Mahomes’ average rank is 11th so Jameis blows him out of the water in the advanced metrics as well … actually Jameis bests Mahomes in ALL FOUR categories too!

    Russell Wilson? Jameis bests him in ALL FOUR CATEGORIES as well!!!!!!!!

    JAMEIS IS GOING TO GET $$$$$$$$$ PAID $$$$$$$$$

  129. July Joe Says:



    Air/Cmp: 1st in the ENTIRE NFL !!!

    Air/Att: 4th in the NFL

    ADOT: 1st in the ENTIRE NFL !!!

    BAD THROW % = 22nd (better than Mahomes & Russell Wilson)

    Jameis BESTS BOTH Patrick Mahomes AND Russell Wilson in ALL FOUR CATEGORIES !!!!!!

    JAMEIS IS GOING TO GET $$$$$$$$$ PAID $$$$$$$$$

  130. July Joe Says:

    The above ADVANCED METRICS were the ones Pro Football Focus Uses … below are the ones NEXTGEN NFL uses … and once again … Jameis Winston is ELITE in the advanced metrics this season!

    CAY: 1st in the ENTIRE NFL !!!
    AYTS: 1st in the ENTIRE NFL !!!
    IAY: 2nd in the NFL
    AYD: 24th (Better than Mahomes)
    +-: 21st (JW has historically been much higher but even this year he’s still better than Tom Brady, Carson Wentz, etc)

    NFL GM’s will SALIVATE if a 26 year old Winston who has been ELITE in the advanced metrics EVERY SEASON hits free agency … it will be a bidding-war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And poor Tampa will waive goodbye to a guy who will go on to win a ring like Dilfer or Williams or Young and enter Canton like Young, while they draft some goof-ball like Jake Fromm who busts and then have to draft another joker who busts in 2024 … HAHAHAHA