Is There Fire Behind The Smoke?

October 3rd, 2019

What went wrong? Jameis appears to offer a clue.

This has been gnawing at Joe for a while. Time to let some of it hang out.

It sure seems that America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, is more comfortable this year. Both on the field and off.

Now some believe the source of Jameis’ past discomfort was former Bucs coach Dirk Koetter. Before you get carried away, know that Koetter had always been good to Joe and Joe respects the hell out of him even though Joe and Koetter crossed swords once in a while.

Joe didn’t take that the wrong way whatsoever. It happens. Move on. Sometimes Joe was even amused when Koetter would bark at him. Joe wanted Koetter to win more and was sad it didn’t happen.

If needed, Koetter was always available to explain something that was cloudy for Joe. Appreciated it then; appreciate it now.

Koetter didn’t win enough (for whatever reason) and is gone. No more complex than that.

The reason Joe brings this up is something that sparked Joe’s curiosity after reading a twitter from Louis Riddick. The BSPN talking head is a former NFL player who played for Bill Belicheat (and Nick Saban), and later was an Eagles player personnel director. So he brings wisdom from both sides of the aisle: as a player and as a suit.

Well, in recent days, Jameis is getting lauded as perhaps the hottest quarterback in the NFL. Certainly, it’s a near 180-turnaround from what happened last year when Jameis was benched in a panic move by Koetter to, in part, save coaches’ jobs — and that comes straight from the mouth of then-Bucs offensive coordinator Todd Monken during one of his weekly press conferences last season.

Bucs coaches lost faith in Jameis before the benching and maybe gave up on him. They sure as hell lost trust in him.

Riddick’s twitter reminded Joe of the story Bruce Feldman, the Jay Glazer of college football, broke in the winter of 2015. He reported that Koetter, newly hired Bucs offensive coordinator under inept Lovie Smith, preferred gimmick quarterback Marcus Mariota over Jameis in the lead-up to the 2015 NFL draft.

Koetter, months later, admitted to this but also said he neither knew Jameis nor had any connections to Jameis, whereas Koetter’s quarterbacks coach at Boise State, Mark Helfrich, who also was Mariota’s coach at Oregon, sold Koetter on the more-athlete-than-quarterback prospect.

Koetter also said that once he got to know Jameis and appreciate Jameis’ high football IQ, he was convinced Jameis was a good selection.

But one has to wonder, as Riddick pointed out, since it was public knowledge Koetter preferred someone other than Jameis, if there was an element of distrust that Jameis had with Koetter from the very beginning? And perhaps that mushroomed out of control, which led to Jameis’ near destruction last year?

Now there were other things going on behind the scenes. We all know notorious locker room cancer, malcontent DeSean Jackson, was pulling stunts in a concerted effort to grease the wheels for Jameis’ exit. If Joe fully spilled the beans on this, it would fry people’s minds.

Did this affect Jameis? Did Jackson’s antics, along with Jameis having an element of (growing?) distrust with Koetter,  all add up to a meltdown? It’s hard to say but it could not have helped.

Enter the 2019 season. Jameis is playing better. Is he fixed? Has he turned the corner? Time will tell.

Bucco Bruce Arians, from the day he arrived in Tampa Bay, started a campaign to rebuild Jameis’ confidence, not unlike what Arians is doing with Ronald Jones. Through four games, it seems Arians has made progress with both.

Now Jameis said something near the end of his press conference yesterday that got Joe’s ears to perk up and reminded him of Riddick’s twitter. Jameis talked about how things are different working with Leftwich, the current Bucs’ offensive coordinator, as opposed to Koetter or former quarterback coach Mike Bajakian.

On discussing the transition from Koetter’s offense to Arians and Leftwich, Jameis said, “It was very relatable because you had a guy like Bryon Leftwich who has played in the system, who had played as an NFL quarterback, so it helped the transition a lot better. … When you had experience from a guy [Leftwich] who [played in the NFL], that’s completely different because you are able to relate. You are able to have some dialogue.”

(Joe had long been dubious of Bajakian only because his resume seemed toilet paper-thin for an NFL quarterback coach.)

Able to have dialogue? That sure suggests it was missing in previous years. And without dialogue, how can there be coaching?

Now this isn’t a sh!t-on-Koetter story. Joe is just trying to ascertain what happened with Jameis last year. Why didn’t he take the next step in his career advancement?

(Shoot, Koetter publicly stuck his neck out for Jameis when, at times, folks both locally and nationally were throwing rocks at the guy for perceived insults and wrongdoings.)

Connect all the dots and absorb the bytes of information from various sources, it sure smells as if the environment around One Buc Palace last season, if not before, was not conducive to the growing and maturing of a young quarterback.

And just maybe, the football wing of One Buc Palace last year was downright toxic for Jameis.

64 Responses to “Is There Fire Behind The Smoke?”

  1. Nemo14 Says:

    Hey Joe, another great article but when are you going to spill the beans on what was going on with Jackson?? Can’t wait to hear about that.

  2. JimmyJack Says:

    There are many players to look at as evidence that our coaching staff was not doing a good job and not getting the most from. Winston being the biggest example.

  3. AwShbucs Says:

    Look no further than the situation going on in Atlanta…

    The problem was with the previous coaching staff and its inability to both develop players and put them in position to succeed.

  4. 813bucboi Says:

    it was plain as day that the previous staff did not have JW’s back…..

    that was evident when dirk refused to name winston the starter after his suspension….

    and when winston had a bad game vs the bengals, dirk went back to fitz who threw some awful picks vs the bears the week before….

    dirk showed he didnt have faith in JW and locker room showed even less faith in dirk after the steelers game…..

    now dirk has DQ on the hot seat because matty ice and DF cant get on track…lol…

    like i said once lovie was fired……grass aint always greener on the other side!!!!!!!

    GO BUCS!!!!!!

  5. JimmyJack Says:

    And this whole theory is extremely comical(mostly because their is likely some truth to it). Think about it. Dirk was promoted for the main reason of getting the most from his QB. Not only did he fail with the entire defensive roster and the OL and the RBs…..he failed with the one player he was hired for.

    There is defientally plenty to debate and we all got our own chumps but in mine opinion Dirk was the most underachieving coach this franchise has saw.

    At the end of the day it screams to how bad our owership has been to getting the right football minds involded to run the football operations. Thankfully they had one decent guy left over(Licht) who was able to get us Bruce who has brought us quality coaches head to toe.

    Sorta just like what happened with the Dungy hire the Glazer’s we’re more lucky then good with this hire. In their credit when Bruce was hired he did mention how welcoming the Glazer’s were and they were instrumental in him taking this job. So great job to the Glazer’s on that front. Very grateful for them delivering.

  6. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Eyes forward…except if you want to spill the beans on the real deal with Josh Freeman

  7. Joe Says:

    Eyes forward…except if you want to spill the beans on the real deal with Josh Freeman

    What beans? He was a headcase who was anything he was marketed to be: a workaholic franchise quarterback. Who doesn’t know this?

  8. Joe Says:

    Hey Joe, another great article but when are you going to spill the beans on what was going on with Jackson??

    When all parties involved are no longer in their current jobs and are out of the NFL.

    And thanks for the kind words.

  9. Mitch Says:

    @Nemo I asked that question and Joe replied that he has to wait for the source to no longer be in their current position with the organization. He also stated it could be some time before that happens

  10. Mitch Says:

    ^ yep.

  11. Joe Says:

    now dirk has DQ on the hot seat because matty ice and DF cant get on track…lol…

    Ouch! But not inaccurate.

  12. ATLBucs Says:

    Joe!! When a person sends a message on Twitter, it’s called a tweet! It seems like Koetter’s directness submarined the confidence of some of the players. At the very least Jameis and Rojo. He must be doing the same in Atlanta because they are averaging a whopping 17 points a game.

  13. JimmyJack Says:

    AwSch………How about just focus on Devonta Freeman. Does nothing under Dirk in his rookie year then as soon as Dirk leaves he turns into a 1k RB……I just looked up his numbers so far this year and it’s embarrassing. To give credit Freeman is productive as a receiving weapon but no games with 20 carries and no TD and his YPC is generic.

    It’s a one dimensional offense and Quinn better step in and demand some different concepts(like I bet Lovie did in 2015) or better hope his defense can win them some games.

  14. BucUToo Says:

    The Bucs did not clean house and go get a bunch of new players. They kept the majority of starters, especially on defense. They did an addition by subtraction method. Those same players are playing at a much higher level than last season. There is only 1 difference. Coaching.

  15. ClodHopper Says:

    Purely speculation on my part but I never thought Licht wanted to promote Koetter to HC. Not that he was totally against it but I think the Glazers said If you don’t hire Koetter, you better be damned sure the coach you hire is better than Koetter. And at that point in time, a lot of people were smitten with Koetter.

  16. Dapostman Says:

    Dirk Koeter is the poster boy for the Peter Principle of NFL coaches.

    No credibility for Louis Riddick because he was one of the know it all talking heads that said the Bucs should move on from Jameis Winston.

    The smart guys can figure out that Winston has only played in one system with one coach who BTW ain’t doing that great in Atlanta. We knew Winston should have some time under this setup to see what he actually has.

  17. ATLBucs Says:

    now dirk has DQ on the hot seat because matty ice and DF cant get on track…lol…

    DQ was on the hot seat last year before Dirk arrived. They say “If you are on the hot seat and draft O lineman, you are drafting for the next coach. DQ drafted 2 O- Linemen with their first 2 picks. Plus, he’s a motivator, not a coach.

  18. Joe Says:

    No credibility for Louis Riddick because he was one of the know it all talking heads that said the Bucs should move on from Jameis Winston.

    He said this because of all the off-field antics, not because of his talent. The bad stuff that Jameis has pulled away from football has nothing to do with Koetter or Jackson. In fact, Koetter stuck his neck out for Jameis when Jameis was in hot water.

  19. ATLBucs Says:

    Dapostman Says:
    No credibility for Louis Riddick because he was one of the know it all talking heads that said the Bucs should move on from Jameis Winston.
    ENERYONE was saying that! When have you known talking heads to be brave and go against the grain? They like to make “safe” predictions.

  20. Bobby M. Says:

    Winston has pieced together strings of decent play before….If that were enough, he’d have his extension.

  21. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    It wasn’t Winston’s fault. Got it.

  22. JimmyJack Says:

    Pure hindsight here & I didn’t think much of it at the time but it was probably a colossal mess when you got Djax going on ESPN openly lobbying for Fitzpatrick at QB. That speaks volumes to the amount of respect these players had for one another.

    You can’t have players wanting one guy over the other at that position. It was one thing to stay with Fitz after his unreal start to the season but every player in that lockerroom has to be on board with either QB and be behind whichever decision the coach makes.

    Winston wasn’t even a Captain last year. This speaks volumes to how the lockerroom was run. The team did not have Winston’s back. That’s not how to win football games.

  23. JimmyJack Says:

    Ray’s manager Kevin Cash inserted Yandy Diaz into the lineup after missing a lot of time with a broke foot. He does this for our biggest game of the year. He didn’t jerk around the decision. He told him on Sunday that he would be playing on Wednesday.

    He also had the delicate matter of sitting Gman Choi.

    Gman had one AB and was focused and hot the ball hard. Yandy responded by leading us to victory with 2 dingers. That’s called coaching.

  24. TexBuc Says:

    Physical talent in the NFL is barely discernible between highly drafted QB and a undrafted free agent. Mental aspects of the game is what separates the great from bust QB’s. Working or playing for someone who does not really want you can be the difference in a NFL QB succeeding or failing.

  25. Ghost of Darrell Henderson Says:

    “Eyes forward…except if you want to spill the beans on the real deal”

    It would be timely next week to finally spill the beans on the last London trip when there was a fight on the plane and the Bucs went into the tank.

    Raheem lost the locker room after that debacle and then lost the ability to be a Head Coach.

    Maybe, you could “leak” the story to somebody with a big mouth like Liddle Adam Schiff.

  26. tnew Says:

    Koetter naming Djax as team captain closed the book on him in my eyes. Many of Bucs fans really liked Koetter simply because he was so quick to call out Winston. Hard Knocks opened my eyes when I saw them interact. Koetter was not a good head coach and is a very passive aggressive guy in his public interviews.

    Ultimately, its about the player overcoming the situation and Winston is responsible for not doing that, but Koetter didn’t set him up to succeed. I remember after the first Fitz win it was either Kirwan or Florio that said how elated Koetter looked postgame now that he had a QB he could be happy with. (keep in mind Fitz was 2-5 last season, and throwing INTS at a comparable rate) Koetter does NOT like developing players. This can’t be overstated. Winston was in need of development. It was a colossally bad fit and one reason why I argue the Bucs need a president of operations… a role I see Arians moving into in a couple of years.

    Lets get positive now..
    Arians had a really cool interaction after the Rams win. Arians was clearly more jubilant than Winston but it was like he was saying via his actions for Winston to enjoy this moment. This is what Winston needs…

  27. Miller5252 Says:

    I don’t completely agree with Winston being comfortable this year. First half of the Giants game and the Rams game he looked comfortable…. all the rest of the time he just didn’t seem like he was sure of his reads and when he should and shouldn’t throw the ball. Like it’s been said before…. it took Palmer half a season to learn this offense. After last week I hope the offseason/preseason work of Winston paid off and he’s ahead of schedule in learning and being comfortable in the offense.

    So why does everyone have to be gone in the NFL for the beans to be dropped about Jackson? Did this all come from someone you’re worried about effecting their career? And is this provable facts or just someone saying some things that caught your ear?

    Don’t get me wrong, from day one I figured this could be a complete wreck because of the issue in the past and him getting shown the door in pretty much the prime of his career.

  28. lambchop Says:

    I don’t understand why today’s NFL is about tip toeing on egg shells. Jameis had trust issues cuz his coach wanted another QB? So, how about prove that you were the right choice?

    Jameis may have had that mentality. So, it’s just weird that we have to make excuses as if these players are made of paper mache.

  29. Siege the Bay Says:

    Dirk Koetter was weak minded, and also not that smart when it came to game management. He is not a motivator, and he’s not a teacher. That’s the perfect storm for being a bad leader (head coach). His system was entirely too predictable, because we never went and got a rb, so everything was a deep ball or a screen to adam humphries, and he never took any pressure off of Jameis. When he finally got a rb, he had no idea how to use him. The word inept should be solely reserved for Dirk Koetter.

  30. Boombang Says:

    Joe, stop teasing your fans and go on and spill the beans….To some, your article is news, but not to me….Tell your fans about the dysfunctional locker room of the Bucs…Tell them about the blowup between Lovie and Koetter on draft day in the war room over drafting Winston or Mariota…..Tell them how Lovie had to pull “I am the HC, not you card on Koetter.
    Tell them about the Lil blowup Winston and Koetter had in the locker room after a game…
    And for God sake tell them about that back stabbing snake named DeSean Jackson…..Tell’em how Jackson lobbied with Koetter to keep Fitzs as QB when Winston’s suspension was over…..Joe, you owe it to your fans to be TRUTHFUL….Lewis was spot on with his comments….Koetter never wanted Winston, he never trusted him, and definitely had no faith in him…..And please don’t forget to tell your fans how Koetter beat down Jones with verbal abuse….Joe, you know how crazy it was in the locker room – Tell’em….Tell the whole story…..Don’t tease your fans with bits and pieces…..

  31. Son of Kobe Faker Says:

    “The posters should be ashamed

    bunch of bandwagon Narcs…led by 813bucboi

    3 years ago, my Dad Kobe Faker, all by his lonesome condemned Klueless Koetter as a fraud

    now 3 years later, everyone knew all along?

    My Dad wants a sincere apology

    from the heart”

    Son of Kobe Faker

  32. ocala Says:

    I like Dirk Koetter, but it is pretty clear he was awful as an NFL head coach.

    Coach Arians has made several mistakes in crucial situations this year. However, it is also fairly clear that the Bucs have a completely different mindset than they did last year when they were 2-2 and that credit belongs to Coach Arians.

  33. AwShbucs Says:

    Son of Kobe

    Even a blind squirrel finds the occasional nut.

  34. AwShbucs Says:

    For as many incorrect prognostications you’ve shat out over the years, you were bound to be right about something.

  35. Jonathan Limpchimpi Says:

    Great, insightful article, Joe. Winston was up against it from the start last season. Suspended while Fitzpatrick heated up…as he’s wont to do…while padding D-Jax’s stats. D-Jax lit it up earlier this year as well…only to get injured…hasn’t played since. He defines mercurial. Glad Koetter…and his tainted painting from a stick holder no longer to be named…is gone. He may be one & done in his second stint in Atlanta as well.

  36. Dapostman Says:

    At JOE,

    Doesn’t matter why Louis Riddick said it. Louis Riddick was/is WRONG. The Bucs should not have moved on from Winston and right now Winston is proving the naysayers to be WRONG.

    ATLBucs was spot on in his comment of talking heads playing it safe. The talking heads like Riddick are nothing more than a clown show following the herd.

  37. 813bucboi Says:


    maybe according to your sources DQ isnt on the hot seat(yet) but i have friends and family in ATL and they want dirk’s head on a platter…lol….

    they all tell me their offense sucks ever since dirk came back…..their having trouble scoring and they aren’t a physical offense that runs to set up the pass like they were before…..

    they havent scored over 30points yet this season and have yet to rush for over 100yards…..

    sounds familiar?……lol….

    GO BUCS!!!!!!!

  38. 813bucboi Says:


    your dad is also your brother!!!!!!!

    GO BUCS!!!!!!

  39. 813bucboi Says:

    Kobe Faker Says:
    December 28th, 2018 at 7:56 pm


    Kobe has called for accountability and awareness to the true reason of the Tampa Bay Bucs continuous suckiness in the past 5 years

    The blame goes solely to the one who was in charge of the groceries and the talent and lack of talent level in this bottom 3 franchise

    “There is no greater love than one that gives his posting life in behalf of his brothers

    3 days 6 hours and change”

    Kobe Faker

    no you in-breed!!!!!!!!!

    dont blame the person who bought the groceries… blame the chef who didnt prepare the meal properly!!!!!!!!

    GO BUCS!!!!!!

  40. Crack3rK Says:

    Joes Says: “it sure smells as if the environment around One Buc Palace last season, if not before, was not conducive to the growing and maturing of a young quarterback.”

    Very, happy Jameis is on the upswing, no doubt. We do have to remember that Jameis did violate Koetter’s and the team’s trust in him by lying about the Uber incident, or at least, failing to report it to the team. That said, it’s a new day in Tampa Bay!

    – Geaux Bucs!!

  41. Silent_Partner Says:

    This was obvious for anyone looking. Like I said here his rookie year and especially as he was elevated to HC, it would be a matter of if Winston could survive being coached by Koetter who is mediocre because he’d get blamed for it. Fast forward four years,and this fan base did exactly that and couldn’t see how bad of a coach his former primary play caller was as he was trying to develop.

  42. gambelero Says:

    Glad Joe was able to get this off his chest.

    One thing that stuck out to me last year was when Fitz talked about changing a play at the line of scrimmage from a run to a pass based on the alignment. Winston has never been given audible/play changing ability as far as I know. If he had, we’d have done a lot less run for one yard or less, run again for one yard or less, pray for Jameis to save us on third down.

    Was Fitz given more authority/trust during the four game suspension last year than Winston, a stone savant at the art of quarterbacking? If I was Jameis, that would really piss me off.

  43. Silent_Partner Says:

    This was obvious for anyone looking. Like I said here his rookie year and especially as he was elevated to HC, it would be a matter of if Winston could survive being coached by Koetter who is mediocre because he’d get blamed for it. Fast forward four years,and this fan base did exactly that and couldn’t see how bad of a coach his former primary play caller was as he was trying to develop.

  44. Joe Says:

    Winston has never been given audible/play changing ability

    Sure he was. In fact Koetter wanted him to do it more (so long as the called play wasn’t there).

  45. Knoxville Buc Fan Says:

    Has Fake News trickled over in to JBF now? Why tease info at all? Just put it out here, if you can’t, why even bring it up at all?

  46. Pewter power Says:

    I dont buy into the nonsense of not wanting Winston. As he said many times your players are your players and no one else is coming to save you. He said himself when he was hired here that he didnt have much of a say being new to the staff.

    The draft process is a very short window of time, koetter was here to long to be thinking I never wanted this guy because it would have been more simple to see what other job offers were out there. As much as I dislike him as a coach I cant see him being that petty over something he knew he could not change. You move on and do the best you can with what you have. This is reaching and just plain speculation.

    Maybe it’s the system Winston is not comfortable with more than the coach

  47. AwShbucs Says:

    Pewter Power..

    Koetter admitted it himself…. was he lying?

  48. Lamarcus Says:

    Koetter is garbage. Skip Bayless was right. He is a high school coach blaming the Qb all the time. But he somehow gets more respect than BA.

    All I heard how BA was BS and we ain’t winning crap. Koetter and Mike Smith gets a pass because their nice? Koetter is the God father of Stick Carriers.

  49. Alanbucsfan Says:

    Matt Ryan is having his worst year and Devonte Freeman is averaging 3.3 yards
    Sounds like a Koetter offense to me

  50. AwShbucs Says:

    One need only look back to the game against the Redskins last year for evidence of Koetters growing struggles as an OC in the NFL.

    500+ yards gained. 3 points scored. The man has been figured out by Defensive coordinators the league over. There is a reason why Matt Ryan leads the league in picks despite coming off arguably his most impressive year statistically.

    Jameis is coming alive within this offense. The Running game has returned, which goes hand in hand with the resurgence of the Play action pass. I dont think I’ve ever seen Jameis play as well from inside the pocket as he has the last two games. And that is because of coaching.

  51. Buc1987 Says:

    AwShbucs…and it’s about time the Bucs unleash the new Jameis Winston upon the NFL…
    This should be fun. 🙂

  52. ColoradoBuc Says:

    I respect Koetter. We had some damn good offenses and started 9-7 under him.

    But at the same time I am so glad he’s gone. Extremely loyal to a fault with his coaching staff, and he couldn’t fix Jameis. Pissed at him for wasting 3 years of Mike Evans’s career.

    B.A. comes in, gets competent coaches, fixes Jameis (god willing!), and all of a sudden we seem like a legitmate team.

  53. stpetebucsfan Says:

    What 87 just said. Let’s just move forward. It’s all good now.

    What Colorado Buc said as well.

    I can’t defend Koetter…he did a lot of things wrong. But…

    “The bad stuff that Jameis has pulled away from football has nothing to do with Koetter”

    Actually it has a LOT to do with Koetter. Imagine a coach who has to start the season with a three game suspension to his starting QB. Imagine his starting QB has struggled at times and NEEDS the work as much as his team needs him. Koetter was shell shocked by the time the season started.

    I’m not making excuses for Koetter I agree he needed to go. However making it all one sided does not serve us or JW.

    There needs to be some accountability here. JW messed up a lot of his first four years HIMSELF!!! It wasn’t all on Koetter or the Bucs losing tradition. A lot sure…but not ALL. JW had a major hand in all of this.

    Having said that…JW’s credit is now being handed to BA who deserves a lot of credit for providing a team for JW to lead but at the end of the day BA did not take a hit or throw a pass.

    I’m not diminishing BA at all and I suspect even he would agree with me. JW was THE MAN Sunday. If we’re going to rip him when he blows it..gotta give him props when he stands out.
    He was freaking great Sunday. Yeah the pick six but the way he rebounded was a thing of beauty.

    If we’re looking for accountability it’s a two way street. Rip JW when he deserves it and praise him when he deserves it.

  54. JimbobBucsFan Says:

    If Winston can play more less at the level he has the most recent three games then all is well. If he can perform at a consistent quality level he is on his way to attaining “franchise quarterback” standing. The next four games could truly tell the story of his career.

    A five and three start for the Bucs would be a shocker for many as well.

    Go Bucs! Take out the Saints! Stack ’em one at a time.

  55. passthebuc Says:

    time will tell.

  56. D1 Says:


    Great post!

  57. Buczilla Says:

    Spill the beans! 😃 Chris Godwin is an upgrade over Jackson as the number 2, so the only beans that I would like to see spilt are the ones that show who didn’t stick up for Jameis when he was dealing with whatever Jackson was throwing at him.

  58. stpetebucsfan Says:


    THX When I receive a compliment I consider the source and coming from you it’s high praise indeed.

  59. Brandon Says:

    Why didn’t Jameis take the step last year? Probably had something to do with him not being able to play the first three games, not getting the respect and Captaincy (is that a word?) from his teammates, and having to try to live up to the unreal standards that Fitzpatrick, nor anyone else, also couldn’t live up to. Couple that with a historically bad defense from an extremely overrated and overmatched defensive coordinator, and you have a recipe for disaster. I don’t absolve Jameis of his past sins, either on or off the field, but this is a new season, and Sunday is a new game. We start fresh every week. Hopefully he can keep his momentum going and keep the needle pointed upwards.

  60. BushidoEvans Says:

    Yo this comment section IS LITTY McLITTY LIT! I am 100% here for it. Wish I had my Michael Jackson popcorn gif handy!! Woooo, oh i heard JPP back week 8 too.

  61. BushidoEvans Says:

    @Boombang came in like the second coming of Teriyaki 69!! Ohmyaaad!

  62. BushidoEvans Says:

    Ayo is Joe taking down my comments?! What I ever do?!?! 😩

  63. BushidoEvans Says:

    Oh nah there they are….my bad Joe! Carry on!

  64. BushidoEvans Says:

    @813bucboi I just want to say that comeback, although rude, was magnificent sir 😁.