“Bad Job”
October 30th, 2019
Sums up Bucs.
No, Bucco Bruce Arians is not making excuses for America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.
And that is coming from the mouth of a former NFL quarterback.
Jim Miller, who once had a cup of coffee for Chucky and the Bucs near the end of his career, doesn’t believe Arians is wrong when he blasts Jameis’ teammates for mistakes in the passing game. That’s because, Miller said, Arians has called out Jameis before.
A Bucs fan called Miller’s show, “Moving the Chains,” which he co-hosts with former Bucs scout Pat Kirwan heard exclusively on SiriusXM NFL Radio. The Bucs fan was sick of what he perceived as Arians’ favoring Jameis compared to how Arians unloads on the rest of the team in his press conferences.
Miller took exception to the claim. And Miller cited an example of when Arians called out Jameis.
Jim Miller: I think he has been critical on Jameis Winston when he wants to. He said Winston has to throw it away, Week 2. Bruce Arians was quoted as saying, “We need to teach him to quit throwing to the wrong colored jersey.”
Pat Kirwan: Well, he’s done a bad job then.
Kirwan seemed to indicate, for those hung-up on interceptions, that indirectly Jameis is helping out the Bucs financially. Kirwan, a former front office suit for the Jets, believes if the Bucs were to keep Jameis short-term in order to buy some time to find his replacement, the Bucs are likely to get a good bargain if Jameis’ camp isn’t blind to the world.
Kirwan believes Jameis’ options away from the Bucs are very limited and he wouldn’t get anything close to starter’s cash.
October 30th, 2019 at 5:10 am
Great, the bright side of the screw ups is he’ll be cheaper to re-sign.
October 30th, 2019 at 5:11 am
Starter’s cash?
JW will be lucky to be playing in the NFL next year.
October 30th, 2019 at 5:19 am
America’s relief pitcher, toilet bowler Jameis Winston.
October 30th, 2019 at 5:28 am
Keep Jameis playing! He will eventually end the debate on his own. One way or the other.
7-9 – where are the wins coming from? Seattle, New Orleans, Jacksonville, Detroit, Indianapolis, Houston – unlikely
So really two games with Atlanta and a Arizona team. And it would be so like the Bucs to split with Atlanta. 5-11 more likely?
July Joe says Jameis will get paid (well minimum wage is required by law even when waiting tables in Bessemer AL)
October 30th, 2019 at 5:47 am
Everytime I see the words America’s Quarterback in writeing, I wonder who and on what team, it is, they are talking about.
October 30th, 2019 at 5:57 am
Halloween, the time of year when Buc fans start talking draft. Problem is Jason Licht has taken that one joy away also. Fans know what the Glazers can’t figure out. Jason Licht can’t draft worth a sh%t. So with the 4th pick in the first round the Bucs pick, corner back Ida Cantcover from Whats a Matter U!!
October 30th, 2019 at 6:34 am
“Hung up on interceptions,” fumbles, inability to read defenses, poor decision-making, inaccuracy, and coin-flip production (inconsistency) play to play. But, other than that, he’s pretty good.
October 30th, 2019 at 6:45 am
He doesn’t critique Jameis in the public. His fragile makeup would probably crumble just like when he can’t have a quality backup QB looking over his shoulders.
October 30th, 2019 at 7:15 am
I see the Gaytor fans are up early today.
October 30th, 2019 at 7:35 am
Can anyone see 5-11.
October 30th, 2019 at 7:38 am
Just read where the Rams yesterday traded Talib to the Dolphins for a 5th Rnd pick (and gave up a 7th Rnd pick in return). That allowed them to clear Talib’s salary … a mere $4.2 mil.
Now imagine IF this scenario had happened: Bucs get Talib from the Rams for a 5th Rnd pick (and gain a 7th Rnd pick), cut Perriman (who costs us $4.0 mil), and replaces him with Talib. We would have lost a grand total of 3 receptions in 7 games, but gained a veteran, starting-caliber cornerback to help our youngsters mature.
Nah, too easy. Jason Lichtweight could never have pulled it off.
October 30th, 2019 at 7:40 am
Lamarcus
Tell him he is wrong
He is worth 2-3 1st round picks plus additional picks
Top 5 pick . HOF
I think you listed like 10-15 teams that would go after him in a heartbeat
October 30th, 2019 at 7:41 am
Defense rules
Totally agree. We need a solid vet in that secondary
October 30th, 2019 at 7:55 am
Yeah, the dislike of Jameis’ poor play, multiple turnovers and suspension for feeling up the Uber driver all come from the fact that he played at FSU. Moronic.
I remember when Derrick Brooks was here. He played at FSU, too. I think he was and remains revered.
If you’re going to post, be intellectually honest. Jameis is a failure. A bust. And it has zero to do with where he started college 7 years ago.
October 30th, 2019 at 7:56 am
Take that money you “shouldnt” pay Winston and re-sign Barrett and JPP.
October 30th, 2019 at 8:10 am
4-12
October 30th, 2019 at 8:44 am
I agree, re-sign JW for the low and start looking for his replacement ASAP. And I’m a FSU fan.
MAINLY, because there rest of the team needs to get better, a lot better. Can’t put a fresh QB or JW replacement behind this line, they will get hurt or worse lose confidence to play QB(like JW). Lots more than QB position that needs to be fixed. Sadly it seem Licht is less than 50/50 on his picks. This could be a long time before we have a winning team 🙁
We have to stop attending games and stop buying team gear to send the message to Glazer’s.
#BucsFanBucsBan
October 30th, 2019 at 8:46 am
For those who are hung up on interceptions-
If you don’t understand the impact turnovers have on winning and losing,
then you need to take a class in football 101
October 30th, 2019 at 9:01 am
I believe the Rams gave up Talib and a 5th round pick for the Dolphins 7th. This allowed the Rams to clear up 4.2 million to extend Ramsey. Since Talib is on injured reserve until week 15 and a free agent after this season, the Dolphins basically purchased a 5th round pick for 4.2 million. Pretty smart if you can afford it, which they can.
October 30th, 2019 at 9:18 am
So, we’re stuck with JayMiss?
Please it ain’t so!
Peace, out
October 30th, 2019 at 9:42 am
keeping JW would be a horrible idea….lol…
GO BUCS!!!!!
October 30th, 2019 at 9:48 am
Has anyone besides DB55 LMAO considered this from JW’s perspective.
At this point money should be irrelevant. He’s had close to 50 million bucks pass through his hands and he’s only 25.
However I think JW has pride and especially athletic pride. If this does…operative word here is IF…blow up JW is still plenty young enough to consider MLB. Perhaps that’s a better road to stardom for him than the NFL. Just thinkin’.
October 30th, 2019 at 9:49 am
People still bashing the line.
Matt Millan REPEATEDLY pointed out that Winston was well protected, and had a safe pocket. The lines pass protection been good so far this year. Cappa proved to be a big improvement over Benenoch.
Jameis frequently jumps out of the pocket, and brings pressure on himself.
But, excuses are often easier to make, than facing the truth.
I bet 90% of the QBs in this league, would LOVE to run the Bucs Offense
Instead, we have a formula one race car, with a blind driver.
Thats how you build a team that cant get out of the cellar.
October 30th, 2019 at 9:52 am
Keep JW. Lock him up. 5 – 175 Mill. 120 guaranteed
But the team still will be garbage
October 30th, 2019 at 9:57 am
Well are receiving corps haven’t gotten separation all camp long and thought our secondary played nice. Fooled him. Now our receivers still can’t get separation and secondary gets smoked because VH3 is no Bueno
October 30th, 2019 at 10:10 am
Agree that Hargreaves must go.
October 30th, 2019 at 10:25 am
Atlanta is top 5 in yards lol classic koetter offense but cant score points, is anyone actually crazy enough to think that is a gimmie game for the bucs? Lol davis and VH3 our rookies are supposed to step on the field with that recieving core and shut em down? Maybe we split but that will be the low point of the season when starters start getting benched.
October 30th, 2019 at 10:43 am
Capt. Tim-The lines pass protection been good so far this year.
Have you been drinking this morning? The o line WAS playing well and so was winston except that first game in a new offense. Are you not gonna mention that cappa ain’t playing? This o line has been garbage since the saints game when he broke his arm. I want a new quaterback too but that’s bananas what you are saying. What was our record during that 3 game span when he had a quarterback rating over 100, I’ll help you we were 2-1 but would have 3-0 if not for matt gay because he did bring us down the field and put us in field goal position. The o line has been garbage since cappa went down. I dont care if winston ends up mvp of the league we should draft a quarterback regardless because hes inconsistent
But yes you are nuts if you think 90% of qb’s would want to play behind this o line. And yea we are still bashing the line because they are sorry, after 8 games we are the only team to give up sacks to Geraldine so hell yea they suck
October 30th, 2019 at 11:09 am
I still enjoy watching my bucs and look forward to the remaining games to reserve my judgement then I will put on my armchair GM hat.
October 30th, 2019 at 11:40 am
I’d be fine with signing him to highly paid backup money until we can draft and develop someone new (or on the off chance that he suddenly becomes consistently good).
But really it doesn’t matter who plays QB for this team until you fix the o-line.
Until then, expect an inconsistent offense and no run game.
Gee, it’s like myself and others have been saying this for years and years and years. I wonder if we’ll ever have someone in charge who realizes football is won and lost in the trenches.
October 30th, 2019 at 5:51 pm
Screw the haters. Let’s get it Jameis!!!! Touchdown Tampa Bay!!!