Arians Wants More Maturity From Jameis: “Right Now He’s Still Trying To Make Plays All The Time”

October 2nd, 2019

Joe’s handwritten in-game notes from Sunday have more all-caps areas than ever before.

Many are celebratory; some are phrases like “ROUGHING THE SNAPPER” and one there’s one that’s not appropriate for children regarding the fair catch interference penalty on Sean Murphy-Bunting in punt coverage against the Rams.

There’s also one that reads “CAN’T TAKE THAT SACK!”

The latter refers to the Bucs having 3rd-and-13 with 2:45 remaining in the first quarter leading 7-0 at the Rams-40. (For Matt Gay, that’s field goal range, which he proved later in the game). Jameis Winston then drops back five steps out of the shotgun, and holds the ball four seconds before starting a scramble that he aborts.

Sack eaten. Field goal range gone.

Joe only brings this up because Bucco Bruce Arians talked about Jameis last night and how he’s handling pressure. Arians said Jameis is doing a great job with pass rushes but he wants to see safer decisions at times.

“He’s moving around in the pocket really well. He did take another sack [Sunday]. I like [him to] just throw the ball away sometimes. Right now he’s still trying to make plays all the time,” Arians told Buccaneers Radio.

That last line from Arians really made Joe squirm. That’s exactly what Arians has said the Bucs are trying to coach out of Jameis; help him understand he doesn’t have to be Superman. And the previous staff was on the same bandwagon.

Jameis, though, is playing well. Through four games this season, he’s got one major clunker, an ok game and a couple of impressive outings. That’s a very solid report card.

26 Responses to “Arians Wants More Maturity From Jameis: “Right Now He’s Still Trying To Make Plays All The Time””

  1. Pierce Says:

    Now that we at least have a competitive defense and the start of a running game, that’s got to take some of the load off of JW.

  2. Eric Says:

    The Saints are a good example in that they were struggling stuck on 7-9 for a few seasons, even with Brees.

    But since then they have improved the overall team to the point they can even win without Brees.

    Same thing applies to Jameis or any other QB. Supporting case improves, they improve.

  3. Fartman Says:

    welp… it will be interesting… In the past Jameis had a knack for giving you just enough hope to be crushed when he blows it… Hopefully the new coaching staff can keep him going.

  4. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:

    Can’t blame Jameis the last two weeks the defense has been smoked two weeks in a row

  5. Ndog Says:

    But does he not have to make plays with us giving up 32 and 33 points on D in back 2 back weeks? If he doesn’t make plays we get blown out both games. You can’t have it both ways.

  6. ModHairKen Says:

    If he takes a sack, people complain. If he avoids a sack but throws a pick, people complain. Guy can’t win.

  7. tnew Says:

    Since week 1 he is only behind Mahomes in total yards and passer rating. Let that sink in for a little while.

  8. zzbuc Says:

    ROUGHING THE SNAPPER call was ridiculous, sometimes I feel the refs just cheat, pure and simple, the other day the made some very weird calls…..makes me wonder…..

  9. 813bucboi Says:

    he’ll get better….he only has 4 games under his belt with this staff….he as well as the team will continue to improve….

    GO BUCS!!!!!!

  10. james west Says:

    Ndog the rams abandoned the run game and threw the ball like 70+ times so naturally they would hit on a good percentage of those throws, and put up points, this defense under bowles is built to stop the run, so far they have shut down some of the top running backs in the league MCcafferty, Barkley, Gurley, and Arrians has said their built to stop the run, run first and take their shots downfield, if not for a missed kick tampa would be 3-1 pretty damn good, imho, i’m hoping the bucs go into their bye 4-2 atop the NFCS division, now would that be something or not? been a long time since this team has strung out three wins in a row, i believe the time is right, and they have the team to do it, go bucs

  11. ToesOnTheLine!!! Says:

    “If he takes a sack, people complain. If he avoids a sack but throws a pick, people complain. Guy can’t win.”

    Option 3…when in FG range, the team isn’t in TD or lose mode, and nothing’s opening up downfield either get outside the tackle box and throw it out of bounds or throw it at the feet of a Bucs player…see he can win playing smart situational football. 🙂

  12. buccaNEAR DOMINATION Says:


    You are missing the point… it’s called “throw it away!”

  13. Jimbuc2 Says:

    ZZBuc; Another case of ref ‘home cookin’ would be when the Bucs tried to quick-snap the Rams early in the game. The refs would have none of that, stepping in for no good reason. And what happened later in the game when the Rams quick-snapped us? Why, that was perfectly acceptable. The refs couldn’t spot and backpedal out of Goff’s way fast enough. Very one-sided officiating. Perhaps we’ll get a better crew in New Orleans. Then again, perhaps not considering last years no call debacle. Anyway we must soldier on.
    Go Bucs! Beat them Aints!!

  14. idiaznet Says:

    It takes time to fix that part of Jameis’s game. It will not be overnight. But the good thing is that we now have a coaching staff that will fix these issues. Dirk and staff didn’t do jack in fixing / teaching.

    You clearly see that with Matt Ryan’s regression. 8 TD. 6 Int and 10 sacks in 4 games. Last year he was 35 TD, 7 INT in 16 games.

  15. stpetebucsfan Says:

    “I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now”
    Freddie Mercury…and seemingly a lot of JBF posters.

    Not to pick on us tho since this is the American way.

    Patience grasshoppers. JW is still a work in progress. I take NO negative connotation from BA’s remarks although I certainly understand Joe or anybody’s concern.

    I think BA is stating the obvious. You can’t coach more than a decade of doing something one way into changing without some time.

    It’s not where the team or JW are right now…it’s what direction are we heading…..based on that metric I’m feeling pretty good.

    BTW please stop with the false analogies. NO…asking JW to be more responsible is not going to keep him from throwing bombs. One of the very best passes I saw JW throw Sunday was the one where he turned and simply hurled it into the cheap seats. That has been rare in his career and it’s one of the major things that separates him from the elite QB’s like Brady, Rivers, Wilson. Those guys do not hesitate to toss it away. JW is learning and like all human beings he has a learning curve.

  16. July Joe Says:

    That will NEVER be “coached out of” Jameis, in the same way it was NEVER coached out of Brett Favre … and that is a good thing!

  17. Bucsfanman Says:

    stpete- Agreed. He’s a work in progress, it happens. One of the best throws of the game was the incompletion to the sidelines. That pass showed growth and maturity.
    He’s still got work to do but I like the direction he’s trending. This is what you WANT to see.

    The penalties in that game were ridiculous! That’s all I have to say about that!

  18. Go Bucs 72 Says:

    I’ll take one bad sack over a boneheaded interception all day.

  19. #1bucsfan Says:

    I’m going to beat this drum until it happens an hopefully that is soon very soon that we PLAY CONSISTENTLY GOOD AN DISCIPLINED FOOTBALL to many penalties on both side an wen those same penalties cancel out great plays like both runs for ROJO is sickening. So funny that so many of you fans called him a bust after 1 year where he barely got to play keep balling rojo I never thought you were a bust

  20. Brandon Says:

    ModHairKen Says:
    October 2nd, 2019 at 9:21 am
    If he takes a sack, people complain. If he avoids a sack but throws a pick, people complain. Guy can’t win.


    Throwing it away is a win.

  21. Jmarkbuc Says:


    Agree 100%. Or run for four yards, better than a negative play…..

  22. Dapostman Says:

    It’s 3rd and 13, you know the Rams front is going to be coming after the QB. You can’t guarantee that your skill players will be open nor that your Qb can escape the pocket. So why call a long developing play? It’s not 3rd and 3. Long developing plays are risky in nature. The play near the GL to Dare was a better play. You get + yards, it’s safe and he has a chance to break a tackle and get you a first down. If you are 3 and longer and are in FG range need to see more of these plays. Especially if you are on the edge of FG range. A sack takes you out of it.

  23. Buc96NYC Says:

    Honestly, the old Jameis would of threw those to the other team vs taking sacks…so this season whenever I get upset about him taking sacks I relax b/c he’s not throwing it & he’s learning…

  24. ElBajito43 Says:

    Fire Jason LICHT my balls

  25. Bobby M. Says:

    The Saints are the kind of team that can give us fits…..They know Winston and his tendencies well and there’s not much film on Bridgewater in that system. My belief is if Bowles has solid film on a QB/offense, he create a pretty darn good game plan to give them fits. But QBs with minimal film seem to catch us off guard. The QB from San Fran….has only played in a handful of games….Jones with the Giants had just started….But Cam and Geoff, tons of film.

    I think the Saints will surprise us on both sides. To me this is as just a big of a game as last week. major step forward if we win this one in many aspects.

  26. BoltIsle Says:

    I think sometimes people forget Jameis is only 25. He’s only had BA for 4 games, so we should let the entire season play out. His last coach would have preferred to have Mariota. Glad he didn’t make the pick.
    There’s finally a solid coaching staff, on both sides.
    Good to see a lot of people have finally quieted. He’s going to have bad picks and games, most QB’s do. In a 16 game season, every player is going to have a bad game or two.