“I Don’t Know Where Those Calls Came From”

September 11th, 2019

Bucco Bruce Arians completed his deep film study of Sunday’s mess and he certainly consulted with Bucs staff member retired NFL official Larry Rose.

And still, Arians can’t figure out why right tackle Demar Dotson was flagged twice for crushing holding penalties.

“I thought Dot did a heck of a job on the screen. And he got bull rushed the second time and there was no restrictions [of the defender]. I don’t know where those calls came from, but they were made. You try to overcome them,” Arians said yesterday on the Buccaneers Radio Network.

Joe was intrigued by Arians’ comments. He’s a straight-shooter and certainly wouldn’t hesitate to say his 11-year veteran tackle was guilty of holding.

Also intriguing was Arians’ son Jake delivering a blistering rant on NFL officiating during his fantasy podcast for The Draft Network.

The touchdown-thieving calls were especially tough for Joe to stomach. Dotson’s a veteran, the Bucs were at home and Arians is the kind of old-man head coach Joe would think officials would give a tiny bit of extra respect.

Still, the Bucs can’t blame the loss on crappy officiating. The 49ers got their share of rough calls, too.

Joe just hopes the bad officiating doesn’t land Arians in the hospital, where he said it put him during his last coaching stint.

50 Responses to ““I Don’t Know Where Those Calls Came From””

  1. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    DOT was just in a heat gaze the whole game

  2. Pryda...Sec147 Says:

    Maybe they should have wore white like coach and Byron did

  3. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    “Touchdown thieving walls”?? C’mon Joe…. And the “blame game” is getting quite expansive at One Buc Palace now…..Blame the refs, JW blaming receivers for not getting open, JW shatting himself…..wow

  4. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    The bad calls didnt cause basically 4 ints for tds or the play design of barber out wide when u have evans perriman, godwin brate, oj…but the bucs put barber out wide…or throwing a screen from your end zone on a gassed DL…..this si a joke

  5. El Buco Realisto Says:

    Doesn’t know the reason????????? How about ole stale biscuit try and look where he called out the Ref’s last week!!!!!!!!!!!! ” we don’t need that many preseason, but those Ref’s do”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    How clueless is ole stale biscuit??????? Instead of the fans asking for a president for the Bucs, how about a care taker for ole stale biscuit to help keep him in order!!!!!!!!!! Early bird special starts in a couple of hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2019 will reveal answers to the sheep, that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    IF the bucs lose this game in an ugly way and this is IF they lose….and its apparent that this whole thing is not working, if I am the glazers, I am trading SUH to the Eagles who lost their DT last weekend and asking ofr a #1…..and I love EVANS…he is by far the best player on this team and in this community…but I am dangling him to the Raiders or whoever for 2 #1s…I would try to get a 2 for suh and then 2 #1s for evans……no reason to keep evans through a rebuild with a rookie qb, this team needs draft picks and a legit GM who knows how to build a team

  7. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Just once, I would like to hear the coach come out and say “We lost. We can’t change that because it’s in the past. Let’s talk about the next game.”

  8. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    @ Dusthty Rhothdes

    smoked crack lately???

  9. BucsBandit Says:



  10. AKickInTheBucNuts Says:

    BA should say: ” We lost. We expect to lose. Just look at the past history of this bed shat franchise. Did anyone really expect any different? Get real man. I mean…the Bucs…LOL. Hey, where’s the nearest Amscott, I have to cash my check.”

  11. Pittsshore Says:

    More excuses in an attempt to offset JWs inability to read a defense or to call an audible or process a check down. You see, ignorant folks cannot process information as quickly as intelligent people. A half a second in processing time is the difference between a positive yardage play and a pick 6 by Apples McGoo

  12. Ndog Says:

    What does this article have to do with the QB? Some of you are truly obsessed. Get some help guys.

  13. Ben real Says:

    Bucs suck

  14. Ben real Says:

    Bucsbandit thank you captain obvious

  15. Pittsshore Says:

    NDog: National Dutch oven Gathering. Lift the sheets every once in a while. You have been inhaling way to much of the JW gas when snuggling

  16. Rod Munch Says:

    The 49ers had one bad call, and they lost a TD, the Bucs had two TDs lose on BS calls, and the fake news grounding BS, and the totally fake news non-PI call at the end of the game. I mean by Bucs standards getting even one call in their favor is a big deal and one more than usual, but trying to say it was offsetting is nonsense.

  17. Buc1987 Says:


  18. Pittsshore Says:

    He won’t last past the London game

  19. Jeffbuc Says:

    And let’s not forget the terrible defensive holding penalty they called against us on 3 and 13 when we got a sack. That gave them a first down and they ended scoring a touchdown a couple plays later. Even ronde said there wasn’t enough contact there I don’t see what they called on that one.

  20. 74 Bucs fan Says:

    And what about the first down we got on 3rd and 1 when the refs blew the whistle because the refs “were not set”, yet they gave us the first down anyway. What happened there?

  21. Jean Lafitte Says:

    Word came down from Vegas and the Commish that the Bucs had to lose. There was too much money at stake.

  22. Rayjay1122 Says:

    The league should fine officials who make mistakes that cost a team points and if a bad call costs a team the game, the official should be fined and forced to clean the victim team’s toilets while wearing a clown costume for the following week.

  23. MadMax Says:

    Yeah I thought they were BS calls too….but you gotta put it behind you in the game and move forward…next play!

  24. Jean Lafitte Says:

    Let’s see how officiating goes tomorrow night.

  25. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    BucsBandit Says:
    September 11th, 2019 at 12:22 pm


    Actually, I have challenged Joe two or three times on his “15 games to prove himself”….

    I think it’s more like 8 or 9 depending on how our overall record…..he will not get the entire 15 games….they will bench him to send a message and give Griffin some snaps…

  26. Buc1987 Says:

    TBBF…he’ll improve enough through those games…to….


  27. BucEmUp Says:

    Arians isnt coaching. Hes delegating. He needs to coach or this team.wont win a game with Leftwhich running this offense. Did you.aee Byrons press conference? Tge dude is so slow minded he can barley carry out complete sentences and.we expect him.to run a hugh powered fast paced offense with good execution and minimal.mistakes? That offensive meeting room has got to be hard to stay awake.in. This is a joke. Go ahead trade Jameis to.the Jags and watch him win a ring.

  28. Jean Lafitte Says:

    I bet if were getting our butts whooped there won’t be as many flags but if the game is close and we have a chance that’s when the mysterious flags come in. Referees can dictate the outcome with dirty laundry.

  29. Conte Piscatelli Says:

    Welcome to Tampa BA. The Bucs have long been on the wrong side of phantom calls Beecher we aren’t a party of the NFL marketing agenda

  30. Pittsshore Says:

    From Bleacher Report:
    Winston later floated a screen into the heart of the defense while falling back against the pass rush. It was the sort of throw you’d expect to see on the Nathan Peterman blooper reel.

  31. El Buco Realisto Says:


    15 MORE GAMES FOR WINSTON TO GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  32. Defense Rules Says:

    Historically the team that wins the turnover battle wins the game 78% of the time. That number’s stayed pretty constant for over 50 years. Sunday the Bucs’ offense turned the ball over 4 times, while the 49ers’ offense turned it over 2 times. Advantage 49ers. Hard to overcome 2 Pick-6’s.

    Since 2015, the Bucs have had 10 games in which they’ve turned the ball over 4-5 times (and lost the turnover battle each time) … we’ve lost 9 of those games. In that same timeframe we’ve had 10 more games where we turned the ball over 3 times (and lost the turnover battle) … we lost 9 of those games. So out of 65 games since the start of 2015, we’ve turned the ball over 3 times or more 20 times, and lost 18 of those games (90%). The NFL turnovers/game average BTW is a tad less than 2.

    Certainly all of those turnovers weren’t on Jameis, although he did contribute far more than his share (as should be expected of any QB). But turnovers are deadly, and they’re the ultimate gift to the other team. Bucs problem? We consistently beat ourselves. THAT’S discouraging.

  33. Im tired and 87 is right Says:

    I was at the game and was disappointed in Jameis’s play but in the end I could not believe the calls and these flags coming out of nowhere. It has gotten so bad that I just lost it in the stadium and went on a rant about how these refs are just getting way off and completely taking the fun out of the game. It’s completely taken away from the game. Made me realize it’s probably not worth going to anymore. Go Bucs!

  34. hoops Says:

    A shame one of Brate’s tds didn’t count. That last one of his was really a beauty. He might’ve given Fred Astair some competition tap dancing.

  35. MadMax Says:

    ^ Yeah, that was a beauty hoops, thanks for reminding me.

  36. Sydney Says:

    More like 11 years of bad drafting and bad hiring decisions have made this team perpetual losers up until now and for the foreseeable future.

  37. Bucs Fan Says:

    If you don’t watch film, you should be able to comment of articles like this. Buc fans on this site are the worst about spewing crap and haven’t watch a game or looked closely at the film.

    If you check the three INT’s no of the were JW’s fault. One tipped ball because OJ didn’t squeeze it, second one due to Barber running the wrong route (clear as day if you were watching the game, third one ..two Oline men blocked their guy into Dare as he was running his route and the ball was already released, anticipatory throw.

  38. orlbucfan Says:

    Conte Piscatelli Says:
    September 11th, 2019 at 1:06 pm
    Welcome to Tampa BA. The Bucs have long been on the wrong side of phantom calls Beecher we aren’t a party of the NFL marketing agenda
    I’ve followed the Bucs for 40 years and I’ve seen refs pull some winners out of their rears to nail the team. This bunch was incompetent, but that wasn’t what cost us the game. Timid QB cost us. It was the usual SOS with Richard Sherman. He’s a all-Pro DB who played on a SB winner so he got away with all sorts of PI. Some of them were classics. What gets me are the dirty hits that cost players their health. I’ve seen plenty of them and the guilty yahoos don’t even get flagged. Not against the Bucs. Tony Dungy coached his players to outplay the refs, pure and simple. That helped us win that SB BIG-TIME!

  39. NOSBOS Says:

    I see folks are starting next year’s QB class grumblings, rightfully so. But what I would suggest you all start doing some research on Nick Fitzgerald. They conveniently hid him on IR. I suspect there may already be a contingency plan in play in the event things don’t work out with JW..

  40. Darin Says:

    Obvious on TV they were horrible calls. Like ya said 9ers calls were horrible too. Gota make more plays than the other team. Captain obvious. Hope theyve made the corrections almost game time.

  41. Hodad Says:

    Here’s the thing. It isn’t just the Bucs who are getting hosed on these holding calls. Watched a lot of games this weekend, and it seems like every time there’s a good play, holding offense. Watching the replays I don’t see it. Use to be the refs needed to see a hand full of jersey being pulled on, not anymore. One play I saw the D linemen started falling down, and the O linemen just helped by falling on top of him, holding, I couldn’t believe it. Refs are ruining the game. Maybe the answer is to make offensive holding 5 yards, like defensive holding. It’s hard for any offense to over come a 10 yard holding penalty.

  42. volbuc1 Says:

    EXCUSES!!! Give me a break!

  43. unbelievable Says:

    Arians is the kind of old-man head coach Joe would think officials would give a tiny bit of extra respect

    Well yea the problem is he’s coaching the Bucs– The most disrespected, constantly shat-on, recipient of more bad calls than any other team in the league.

  44. Clw JB Says:

    Welcome to Tampa Bruce, you kind of resemble Rodney, welcome to the Buc Life

  45. D1 Says:

    Bucs fan,

    The tip of OJ that led to the pick was Winston’s fault. Not because of the tip but because the pass shouldn’t have been thrown to OJ in the first place. Bad decision on Winston’s part. The throw should have gone to either one of the 2 wide open recievers. Instead Winston’s throw was in between 3 defenders . If the pass is perfect it’s still not a good decision.

    Additionally , the play where OJ fumbled was another play that should have been to the open receiver vs into traffic. Not blaming that on winston, just pointing out the smarter play.

  46. DB55 Says:

    Hey did you know that Jameis Winston is the greatest QB in buccaneers history? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  47. BucsFan727 Says:

    Is the NFL trying to control the games with there phantom calls? Maybe. If thats the case they dont need to bother with the. Bucs. Will beat are selfs just fine without your ghost calls.

  48. BucsBandit Says:

    Sorry, Mrs. Winston (AKA DB55), your son is FAR from the greatest QB in Bucs history.

    Yards don’t mean jack squat.

    Brad Johnson brought us a Lombardi trophy. HE is the greatest QB in Bucs history in terms of WINNING.

    Sorry, but your son still sucks.

  49. DalvinCookRules Says:

    JW is really telegraphing his passes this year, even more so than in past years. I feel he has not picked up the new offense and is trying to pretend he gets it.

    I’m not sure what the coaches are doing with these guys in practice. You can see when your QB is telegraphing the pass just as easily as the defenders see it, so why can’t you coach it out of him? If JW simply can’t be coached to the level an elite NFL QB needs to be, either replace him with someone who can, OR simplify the play calls.

    I’ve seen much worse QBs than JW in the NFL win games.

  50. Joe in Michigan Says:

    Reason why trading Suh makes little sense:
    • No team would give up a high draft pick for him (1st or 2nd), it’d probably be a 4th or 5th at best

    Reasons why trading Mike Evans makes no sense:
    • He’s one of our best players
    • It’d be an admittance to the fans that we’re in rebuild mode and less people would by tickets
    • No way Coach Arians would be on board with this
    • We’d have to use one of the 1st Rounders we obtained for him on a WR, as we’d need a number 1 WR then
    • There’s no guarantee that the WR we would take in the 1st would pan out in the NFL, and we already know Mike Evans is legit